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jakyweb: If you don’t like the society, feel free to leave it. I’m sure the Reform will welcome you, take pictures of you, and post your pictures all over their publications and websites.
As long as you don’t vote for the party that defines itself as being for Abortionists, Toieva, and general immorality, no questions here.
Here is another helpful thread:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/anger-management-group-therapy
oomis – Avrohom kept the Torah, even though it was before Matan Torah. Yes, her being hidden has everything to do with a ladies dignity.
Dave – Well said. although you need primarily address the frei yidden, as the frum tend to strongly vote Republican as it is.
Here’s a daring prediction… Republican’s will take over the New York State Senate.
Force Feed
Live in a frum neighborhood and avoid the problem.
Republicans will take the House, but not the Senate. They will also control a majority of the Governorships.
charlie,
If you knew a patient in need of serious care in Canada, who was on a “waiting list” for his life saving treatment, your view would be corrected.
Rosetta Stone?
gavra: It’s not available in book form. Google his name, he puts it on his site, although its sporadic and mixed with many subjects. Yes about what? Rav Miller was also affirmative in this subject.
Rav Moshe wrote in the same teshuva “there were almost no Jewish murderers because of the awareness of the severity of the prohibition of murder and because they were educated by means of the Torah and the punishments of the Torah to understand the seriousness of the crime.”
The translation — and it IS faithful to the Hebrew — was done by Rav Daniel Eidensohn, author of the Yad Moshe index to the Igros Moshe. My apologies for that omission.
ICOT –
That would be missing the point. The point being, that ALL intentional murders should be death-penalty-eligible (and with a mandatory sentence.)
I agree with you that it should need to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. I believe conviction should require only 2/3 vote of a panel of judges, not unanimous.
gavra: Rav Moshe wrote this for the Governor of New York to encourage the implementation of the then proposed death penalty for first degree murder. It was applicable to more than Son of Sam; including non-serial murderers.
When there is 15,000 – 20,000 murders PER YEAR (compared to a Jewish Beis Din having ONE death case per SEVENTY [or seven] YEARS) in the United States, you definitely are in an emergency situation that requires saving society, is what Rav Moshe is saying. That’s why he wrote this.
Igros Moshe, Orach Chaim 4:49:
“In regard to the women who participate in the battle [feminism] with other women of the world. These women who are Torah observant wish to bring this battle to the arena of Torah law and therefore some pray with Talis and Tefillin and the like. They wish that I state my opinion on the matter. However, it is obvious if her soul desires to fulfill commandments which she has not been commanded. However, since this is not the motivation, but rather due to her complaint against G-d and His Torah, this is not a Mitvza, on the contrary, it is a sin.”
Dr. Pepper:
Let me guess – your wife feels you shouldn’t have, and you feel you should have (and did).
How was that for a guess?
Rav Moshe paskened the death penalty should be implemented in America.
They were asked, and so responded.
Here are the words of Rav Moshe Feinstein in a letter to the governor of New York explaining that the strict Torah law on execution only applied historically in the limited case of a well ordered society. But there is a legitimate use of capital punishment to defend society – even where the Torah law is not fulfilled. A secular society has the right to protect itself:
As a consequence of these two factors there were almost no Jewish murderers because of the awareness of the severity of the prohibition of murder and because they were educated by means of the Torah and the punishments of the Torah to understand the seriousness of the crime. They were not simply afraid of punishment in the sense of getting caught but were afraid of the crime itself.
Siblings/Parent contracts should be allowed as long as coercion has been dismissed.
That’s nice of you to say, SJS. But the fact of the matter is the homosexual lobby is hypocritically opposed to that as well as polygamy (just ask them), while demanding toeiva marriage.
Which clearly demonstrates there goal isn’t equality, but rather legitimization of immorality.
gaw: On one hand the Torah defines a punishment for Bnei Noach, and on the other a different punishment and standards of evidence for others. Since the vast majority of the people are Bnei Noach here (aside from the fact the others tend not to even be involved in these types of crimes), the standards and punishments prescribed for Bnei Noach should be the law of the land, in this Bnei Noach country.
I have no problem defining different punishments for the same crime. The Torah does. Nothing to be ashamed of. Ideally, if that we’re implementable. As a practical matter it isn’t. What to do at that point, is the next question.
Dr. Pepper:
What did you argue about?
Japan, which has a real nationwide death penalty, has a FAR FAR lower violent crime rate than the U.S.
You’re only responsible for mitzvos from Bar Mitzvah on. But really we all are Baal Teshuvos. Who hasn’t sinned? Who hasn’t done teshuva?
cynical: A) What is the intermarriage rate in your community and in the Conservative society in general? B) Why do you propose it is deep in the double-digits, yet it is around 1% (or less) in Orthodoxy?
Some states have it on the books, and it is carried out frequently.
No state carries it out frequently. Texas probably has the greatest frequency of any state, both percentage of murder wise and actual numbers wise. And even Texas only executes a very small fraction of the murders that occur in The State of Texas.
Consider this: In 2009 there were 1,328 recorded murders in the State of Texas; and in 2009 there were 24 executions in the State of Texas. (Even considering the executions were for murders occurring in earlier years, this data gives you a very good idea how few murderers are executed even in Texas.)
And herein lies the problem. What good is the death penalty when its application is almost nil — even in the state its most famous for! Few people realize this reality.
Once you fix this issue, and apply the penalty across the board for murder, you’re a long way towards solving this issue. This is the only just penalty for murder, even aside from any possible deterrent effect.
While there are issues with Lubavitch, in fairness I think that rabbi’s attitude was not officially sanctioned by Chabad, but rather his own two cents worth.
anon for this:
Serious question for you: How does knowledge of Fourier Transforms help your life today?
You are mistaken. The Steipler’s letter, although it is related to this issue, has NOTHING to do with Ger nor does it mention or address Ger. (And there is no letter from the Steipler discussing Ger on this issue. That is the only letter, despite the drivel posted on some blogs trying to tie that letter into Ger.)
mw13:
R’ Miller ztl said even more than that. He said better to vote for an anti-semite than a candidate who supports abortion or toeiva.
mw13:
Chazal say the reason to consider a girls brothers before marrying her, is because her children (middos, etc.) will be like her brothers.
mdd – Its working for an entire Yiddishe community.
an idea: Absolutely without equivocation. Together with capital punishment as its penalty. I posted the sources elsewhere on this site.
squeak, Just yesterday OVER HERE you said to mosherose:
You sound like a smart young fellow, so I’m going to answer you seriously… Work on acquiring some humility and realize that the people you are talking to may know a bit more than yourself… Continue to do more learning.
That isn’t the response one makes to someone simply seeking a reaction. So your position seems to have fluctuated from just the other day.
instinct theory
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Mr. 80
mosherose is obviously lacking in a clear Daas Torah and his knowledge of the ways of the Jewish People is clearly not fully developed.
nevertheless he is one in a million and when his character becomes polished, and with the right guidance (and a lot of it) i anticipate he may become a great Talmid Chochom and Tzaddik.
for he holds firmly to a crucial principle that almost everyone else has forgotten:
the Emes is the Emes, what feels right, what is accepted as a given by the entire nations, what appears to be obvious truths, are not Emes if they deviate from our Mesorah.
he needs to learn a little more clearly what our Mesorah is, but his tight grasp and unwillingness to let go of what he believes to be Torah is a beautiful and rare Middah.
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Moderator-80 clearly believes mosherose is Emes, believes what he is saying, AND is on the right path potentially to becoming a Tzadik and Talmid Chochom, with some refinements.
And cutting off your few strands of white hair (only)…?
Rav Moshe Shternbuch is on the record supporting Rav Yehuda Levin when Rav Shternbuch asked Rav Levin to organize the American participation in the protest against the toeiva parade in Yerushlayim.
Thank You for that inquiry.
RSRH: Everyone respects that, despite the babble you hear from the anti-Torah crowd. But also realize that to study long and hard to become a Talmid Chochom, and shteig all day every day in the holiness and sweetness of the Torah HaKedosha is the greatest, most productive, calling in life.
Even someone with extreme Haskafos knows that Torah is to be discussed.
My impression has been that he is willing to discuss his POV.
He’s been consistently posting the same hashkofos for almost 2 years in the Coffee Room. He deserves credit for sticking it out despite all the criticism directed at him. (And it has always been the case.) After doing it consistently so long, it is difficult to doubt him.
Scooper Journalist
If it is so new, the owner may be a young Bar Mitzvah bochor.
“with respect to child molestation that is obviously a moral (as well as criminal) issue”
One issue does not negate the other.
“Rather, many in the community are personally disgusted with gays and their lifestyle regardless of what the Torah says and therefore feel comfortable making it an issue.”
No, we’re disgusted PRECISELY BECAUSE the Torah says we should be.
“on Ebay, you can buy sheets of postage stamps for 3/4 of their face value. Stamp collecting isn’t as popular as it was in the old days.”
ron – You’ll be licking a bunch of 9 cent stamps to each envelope this way. (Who sends much postal mail anyways these days?)
Im ein kemach, ein Torah.
All Chazals, such as Im ain kemach ain torah, just means that if you have no food, you cannot learn. Other Chazals say that if you have no food and you try to learn anyway, you will end up having to steal to eat, and what good is that. None of this has anything to do with Kollel. If you are supported by your parents, in laws, Yeshiva, or wife, you are not in a situation where you have to steal, and you have fulfilled the Chazal.