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After more consideration, the only point NK can possibly have is the one on top of their heads.
BTGuyParticipant1. dark chocolate ; )
2. apples
3. walnuts or almonds
4. salmon or sardines
5. water
BTGuyParticipantHi Cinderella.
Good point about health being more important than weight, even though they do go hand in hand.
So the Rambam diet is the title of the book? I did a search and found Life Transformation Diet with the Rambam in the summary.
The diet I try to stick with is really good, but we cannot go wrong with the Rambam. I would like to see his recommendations.
Continued good health! : )
BTGuyParticipantHi arwsf.
From what I know DH stands for designated hitter and is used in baseball where a player goes up to bat for a pitcher, who I guess has to rest instead of batting and running bases. It may have another meaning, I dont know.
Do you ALWAYS run fast with scissors? What are you cutting? lol
BTGuyParticipantIMHO- I Might Have Onions
BTGuyParticipantOkay, I was curious so I looked into it.
It seems the book is similar to parts of Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan’s, The Real Messiah. R’ Boteach is pointing out where xtian ideology and slogans have their roots in Judaism.
He seems to be filling in the details of how xtianity took water from the well of Judaism and mutated basic concepts.
Further, it seem R’ Boteach has researched yushke from the perspective of some of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the writings of his brother “James” who basically portrays yushke not as the apocalyptical guy in the xtian view, but as someone who was more Jewish than xtians would like to admit.
This is not new stuff. The Israeli Antiquities or whatever Bureau has artifacts that show yushke was like a Jew who wanted to go for the messiah brass ring from the Jewish perspective and not from the view of how xtianity sees him.
That is what the book seems like. Would I write such a book? No. But I did research some of that stuff a long time ago when I wanted to know more about us versus them. For some Jews, they may benefit in finding there is nothing novel about that religion and it is not what it is cracked up to be.
I know many non-affiliated Jews who get sucked in. I, myself, helped to get a family to not go to Jews for yushke meetings and eventually they sent their kids to day school and yeshiva high school.
R’ Boteach may be writing the book for such a purpose. It shows the xtian their relationship to Judaism, while showing the unaffiliated, unlearned Jew, xtianity is not such a special thing to chas veshalom consider and get sucked into.
R’ Boteach may be more clever and doing more good than harm than we realize.
BTGuyParticipantBasically, ideally, 5 small meals as day with equal part lean protein and complex carbs, about the size of the palm of your hand. Drink about six to eight glasses of water. Avoid cream for coffee, salad dressing, sugar, and fat. It is better the exercise also, but the weight will come off even without exercise.
Among the proteins, skinless chicken breast, salmon, sardines, 1% cottage cheese, beans, are best choices. Peanut butter is good too, but you have to go easy or just use it as a snack.
Among complex carbs, whole wheat (not multigrain) bread, brown rice, regular or sweet potatoes.
Eat all the vegetables you want, but watch fruits and have them earlier in the day.
To avoid hunger at night, about 8pm have protein (no carbs) like a good shake (Integrated Systems from a “kosher vitamins dot come” company, for example is filling and tastes great. Protein burns fat while you sleep.
This diet works and is easy to stay on once you prepare and get used to it. For me, Shabbos throws the whole thing off, but since it revs the metabolism, by Sunday you can thin out again from the big Shabbos meals.
I used this diet for an intense “on the mat” workout a few times a week. To the degree I stick to it, I have tremendous energy and feel mentally great.
Hatzlacha!
January 9, 2012 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm in reply to: Anyone else cheat with "Words With Friends?" #851566BTGuyParticipantlol kfb. He must be cheating! lol
I had the same feeling about someone I was playing wordscraper (scrabble) with.
BTGuyParticipantAs far as I know, Rabbi Boteach is a proper, orthodox Jew who works in the world-at-large.
Merely having that name in the book title is not necessarily an indictment of R’ Boteach, who does a great deal of chessed to all kinds of people, and from what I hear from gentiles in the workplace, he is making a kiddish Hashem. They like him and like the ideas he brings across.
As far as I am concerned, let him be Shmuely.
I have not read the book so I dont know the context of it. I won’t read the book either; not that interested.
BTGuyParticipantHi Health.
But why in the world would you get blocked? : )
Do they ever explain to someone why they are blocked?
I know when I read threads, you and someone else can go back and forth for two whole
pages and I have to click “4” to get to the last few posts.. lol
You and all the other posting outlaws should be proud!
BTGuyParticipantHi Aries2756.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, there!
If I read you correct, you said it was “boys like you who helped drag girls down to that madreaigah”.
Stop the presses, pull over, call out the National Guard…
This topic is not specific to either of the genders.
Suffice it to say, do not think for a second there are not girls out there that can run circles around the guys with things that are not “kosher” out there on the street.
Being a bt guy, I incorrectly assumed that everyone was as pure as the driven snow. Sadly…very sadly..frum young ladies also want to play the tshuva card or the card that their avairos are erased on their wedding night, and do things we would never expect.
While such things are rarer than in the nonfrum world, they are going on now, as you read this.
’nuff said.
BTGuyParticipantIt really is not because I was not mentioned that I say this, although it was my thought when I was once mentioned, but unless you are going to bring enough candy for the whole class, you really shouldn’t give to just a few.
Our reactions to posters is purely subjective. Who each of us “like” can be due to a variety or reasons such as they are like us, they stimulate us even though they are not like us.
But if someone rubs us wrong because they dont think like us, why should they not be held, in the final analysis, with the same high regard?
I would even argue that a poster you go back and forth with in disagreement, is also a poster who you value and should say hello to.
If I were to post those names that I am drawn to, and ones that I am realizing I am drawn to as of late, but left you out, am I offsetting my kindness by being impolite to those I didnt mention?
Have any of you ever thought the same? It’s small potatoes, of course, but it is a potato.
And, again, if I were to post my list, and you were not on it, is that not like offering dessert to only a few people at my dinner table?
BTGuyParticipantHi mynamesixonethree.
In my experience I didnt just pick someone.
I have been exposed to a few who I may ask questions to, depending on the situation.
Hatzlacha!
January 9, 2012 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm in reply to: Very disturbing, please only kind people read. #842384BTGuyParticipantHi arwsf.
I am very sorry for what you and your children are going through. I will daven for things to get better.
I could not read much past when you described the bump on your daughter’s head. I cannot read much into the responses, which I am sure are all supportive, so I apologize for any redundancy.
You must make your home situation known for the sake of your children and you and eventually your husband to get at what is eating him.
Firstly, secondly, and thirdly, you must protect your children and yourself.
It would probably be better to go within the Jewish community, right away.
If that does not help, then he needs to be removed and go to the appropriate counseling or whatever they do.
It is not an easy thing to do, as I know you know the good side to him too and hope that his most recent episode is his last.
The environment you described will erode on the children’s development if they continue to be part of such horrible scenes.
You need to feel your children are safe.
He needs to keep himself on being a human being and I am sure sulks even more after he does what he does. He needs help and to delve into why he is doing this, while the rest of the family is safe and secure.
If he is owning up to this problem, then demand you both go speak to someone. If he seems like a stranger and is not owning up to it, then you and the children need to speak to someone, and he has to stay somewhere until he chills out and gets help.
It’s bad now. Please dont wait to at least speak to a leader in your community.
Oy! I wish there was something I could do to help.
May Hashem restore the peacefulness to your family and home.
BTGuyParticipantHi soliek.
This is a big and pervasive problem. The people who have the know-how to help are the exact
ones turning them off. These people have a BIG mechila to ask for having stunted and prohibited the spiritual development of those you are talking about in your post. Maybe they are not totally responsible, but they had an obligation to do a better job to tip the scales favorably rather than in the other direction.
I have run into this kind of thing and learned that sometimes the religion and the people are two different things.
I want to say clearly, that there are people in our community who are worth more than their weight in gold, more so than any other people in the world. They are unbelievably thoughtful, kind, helpful, and knowledgeable. But sadly, a very few are messed up and mess others up.
In my opinion, there is no exact solution that can be laid out like a list of things to do, as you know.
I often tell people who share their disappointments in their religious experience that they cannot let any individual block their efforts in coming closer to the Creator. If a person turns them off, then pick up a sefer, a good book on hashkafa and read; listen to a CD shiur on any topic, and they will connect with the spiritual jewels that belong to them, always.
Most of all, they need concerned, easy going people keeping a Jewish rapport with them and encouraging them.
Since Purim is coming up iyH, asking them to participate in all the activities would be a nice plan to begin the rebuilding process.
By letting them take from the “spiritual buffet” what they like, and have a positive experience, eventually they will want more and more, beH.
I totally believe the statement that those who grab onto a branch of the tree of Torah, will grow beyond what they ever expected. This process is happening everyday to more and more people.
Hatzlacha to them!!!
BTGuyParticipant..rimshot
lol @ SG.
BTGuyParticipantHI PBA.
I thought that was called vandalism.
: )
Who is extorting you for apples?
How can I help?
BTGuyParticipantHi aaym.
I agree with you and will up the ante.
The NK are evil to the enth degree!!
I say that for this reason:
If you are against a political Israel, then be so in a political/religious context.
BUT THERE IS NO EXCUSE to openly, warmly embrace the leader of a country responsible for deaths of Jewish men, women, children, and babies.
It is the same leader who supplies the munitions to so many terrorist groups, as we speak, creating the bloody headlines that break our hearts.
And what is this leaders thoughts behind his open statement to wipe Israel off the map?
nk embraces this leader??? They are Jews????? No, they are the satan playing another game to amuse itself.
Excuse me while I go throw up at the thought of giving nk even so much as a nano-speck of legitimacy!
BTGuyParticipantSushi doesn’t grow on trees, you know.
BTGuyParticipantHi Jothar.
What you posted was a HUGE and SHINING example of the highest of character, and you did it on a public forum with no boundaries!
I just want to suggest you do not belabor the point and realize that you are an intelligent, learned, and very passionate person.
And like the rest of us, we have to temper the way we conduct ourselves and learn lessons. There is no way on earth to avoid that challenge for any of us.
I believe you are learning to harness your great passion and once you do, you are destined to make even greater contributions to the world.
I cannot speak for everyone, but I know you are an example for me to have the courage to elevate myself when it is called for. And sooner or later, all of us will have to meet and rise above that challenge. I hope I do so, just as you have done here. Many dont. But you did, and should be commended.
Have a great Shabbos!
BTGuyParticipantHi mikehall12382.
I am not an expert on this and I hope others will chime in to answer you, as well.
I went to a lecture on kashrus and some of the problems with hecksherim, and they exist to some degree with all agencies who are suppose to continually investigate problems, but would range from less than diligent supervision of a food plants where supervisors call in rather than visually inspect, where there have been names of rabbinical endorsements on the packages of rabbis who were niftar, where endorsements were taken away from a company and they continue to use the label and the agency does not take action after that point.
Also, a new problem, which I personally found, are new hecksherim like the one listed as EK. They claim to be “earth friendly” and “spiritually approved”. In addition, there is dispute about “Triangle K” and regular, plain “K”. I dont know the reasons since much of this is usually by word of mouth, as far as I can tell.
I am confident that OU and Chof K are strong and reliable, but again, for me, this has been by word of mouth.
BTGuyParticipantlol WIY!
BTGuyParticipantHi Health.
I am glad you are unblocked.
It would not be the same without you!
: D
“They used to block hats; now they block posters.”
BTGuyParticipantHi gavra-at-work.
I know you didnt mean anything personal and I apologize if my tone came across harsh.
While you dont have to apologize, I will say I accept just so the slate is cleared, just in case. Otherwise, know I understand we are merely discussing a topic and our differences are in no way personal.
I commend you for keeping a grasp of this complex posting between us. It IS complex, and both of us are respecting the understanding we have from our respective rebbes.
Simply, I seriously did hear from a well-known rabbi that when we give tzedaka, regardless of the details of the person asking, you get the schar for giving. He went on to say that in many ways they are doing us a favor by collecting because giving a few dollars is a true life insurance policy. Of course, I am paraphrasing and he was not speaking lightly on the subject.
In fact, he went on to say even if a non-Jew asks you for tzedakaa, you should give for pretty much the same reason.
I dont know if you would chalk my understanding up to daas torah, but I will, b’lee neder, try to find a way to get a proof for his statement where I dont come across like I am challenging what he said just out of the blue.
Peace, and have a great Shabbos!
BTGuyParticipantI used to totally love the snow; until last year.
I think I am able to enjoy it again!
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BTGuyParticipantJhank you for the heads up!
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BTGuyParticipantHi The Goq.
Thank you! You too!
And everyone else also have a great Shabbos!!!
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BTGuyParticipantThat happens even more to Qkhadhaphffy
BTGuyParticipantHI apushatayid.
Actually, I am almost convinced some people make a commission off each letter they type.
Sometimes, myself included, the point-making in long, repeatitive posts, goes beyond what this medium calls for and by the second line, the reader is off and running.
Actually, I can understand enjoying the thinking process of responding to points, so I guess that is why some threads with thought provoking topics get muddied in the process.
Back to the topic. I think I have changed my mind about NK from where I stated they have no point at all. On second thought, they do have a point; on top of their heads!
BTGuyParticipantHi yit.
I see your point and I apologize.
Sometimes, for me, only seeing the written word can be misunderstood. In fact, I wonder how many of any of our posts are really understood in their entire context and dont require further explanation?
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BTGuyParticipantHi Health.
If you are as well versed in loshon hora as you claim, then you should be familiar with the safeguard of protective fences as being very liberal and covering a lot of ground.
Is it within the parameters of shmiras haloshon to want to be careful about speaking about someone who is anonymous to you? Absolutely!
Remember, the Chofetz Chaim also talks about concern for your “fellow” and does not stipulate your “fellow” means only if you know their name.
If someone wants to be careful…extra careful..that is meritous… Dont call them on the carpet for that or lose your patience.
BTGuyParticipantHi gavra-at-work.
This is not personal, just a matter of discussion style.
You keep circumventing points to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Additionally, you cannot clarify when you are asked to clarify and you fall back on repeating the same, original statements.
I will leave you with this thought:
Suppose you give tzedaka to someone you never thought could be a fraud.
The person hands you a letter and looks as though he is weary from collecting, and you give money and never think twice. You never question his validity.
You would never know this, but suppose that person was a fraud. Again, you would never know this.
So, in such a case, in front of Heavenly eyes, your status in that situation is only as a guy who threw out a few bucks.
IF, you have no schar, did you, chas veshalom acquire an aveira of baal tachshis regarding money because you didnt investigate properly? (Remember those collecting for hunger, you cannot investigate, as per SA)
Your role in that event was solely that you threw away money, according to how you poskin.
Anyway, your implied suggestion of not giving when you “sense” someone may not be legit, was incorrect.
If I am wrong, then tell me what you would recommend if you and I were coming out of Maariv together, and someone approached us for money, and we “sensed” he may be a fraud since he didnt exactly look like he was from that shul or from the area. Would you tell me not to give to him? To put the few bucks back in my pocket?
BTGuyParticipantHi Dave Hirsch.
Well, where do I begin? lol
So you read Trumps book and didnt get rich…
I read Joe Frazier’s book, “How To Box Like The Pros”. (I really did) Do you hear of a BTGuy going for a title fight anytime soon? lol Does that fact invalidate Joe’s capabilities or legitimacy in the field of boxing?
The problem with politics is that it is a very gestalt thing. The fact is, as with all people, you can create an argument on the pros and cons of everyone. Person A will overlook the cons, and person B will overlook the pros; all on the same person.
I will make a quick stab at responding to some of your points.
As far as being ready for the presidency, let’s go back just a little bit, because who was ready?
Nixon? Maybe he was ready, but it did not help him from committing a crime and disgracing America to where we have never rebounded.
Carter was ready? He was lame at best, but did damage all the same.
Reagan was ready? While he has a big following, a priori he was noted as a B rated actor, at best. And, it was said California is not indicative of the being able to lead the rest of America.
Clinton. The economy thrived, although he was a jerk, and if you want to credit Reagan, see above comment on Reagan, and that, de facto, means Clinton was not ready either.
Bush Jr??? He didnt even want the job. And it showed. He got rich and ruined America for good.
Obama? Not prepared, of course. He is keeping America ruined.
Bottom line: Yes, I do think Trump’s ideas will work. The career politicians status quo has already sunk America, which is existing only on the fumes of it’s past glory.
Trump is our last ditch effort by someone who has worked and dealt with money on the world stage his entire life.
Unless Moshiach comes sooner, we are headed for a Feudal system sponsored by the Republicrats and Demicans.
It is an insult that Americans have to cheer on and pick among these politicians and make believe they will make a difference.
This country was originally made brilliant by people who had world experience. They were not career politicians.
Believe again in another career politician only to feel you have to wait another four years for things to swing the other way. I am not riding that Merry Go Round anymore.
Trump ’12
BTGuyParticipantHi soliek.
I am glad you got a little laugh out of that. : D
I will continue to look forward to reading your posts with great interest.
Thank you, and have a great Shabbos!
January 6, 2012 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm in reply to: Ending a Shidduch process is a reason needed #842114BTGuyParticipantHi adams.
I was thinking about that. Sometimes, in being nice, it is not so easy to be forthright and dates can go on longer and one grows closer while the other does not. Let’s hope this does not happen to anyone.
BTGuyParticipantHi Health.
Whoever downplays animal rights? YOU DO! lol
Your little footnote of “But animal rights don’t trump our Torah,” is exactly why I said what I said.
I dont know why so many people in our community, like you, are conditioned to have to “remind” people of something they dont need to be reminded of. Really? It does not trump the Torah? Ya think? lol
You went on to give a typical, cliche reaction to my post, as expected.
I am not going to ask you where my alleged liberal, chas veshalom anti Torah views are in my post because are not there and I am not in the mood for your clay-like remolding of what you say in order to save yourself, which is more transparent than you realize.
Health, I didnt realize you were still smarting from our last “interaction”. I want to say clearly, any intellectual difference of view or opinion between us is sincere and not personal at all.
I am mochel you for whatever degree of aggression I sense from you.
BTGuyParticipantHi Poster.
As you know, Rome was not built in a day, nor were the toilets they created or their citizens ability to remember to flush, mastered in a day.
I recommend Doctor Spocks book on child rearing. Go to the index and look where the info is on potty/toilet training.
Very basically, he says children do not like to make a mess. By starting off part of the morning with them not wearing a diaper or anything, and not wanting to make a mess, they will naturally, on their own, start realizing the bathroom is the place to go.
They have to come to this realization on their own, otherwise it does not sink in.
With each successful “event”, they should be commended for how big they are getting and cheered on. There is no magic bullet for total and immediate potty training. Knowing this will help make it less stressful.
All in all, I know his procedure works when other methods have failed, which is why I recommend it.
Hatzlacha in this very big and important step in your child’s development.
BTGuyParticipantHi Give Me a Break.
I may be wrong and I apologize if I am, but why downplay animal rights, which is common in our circles?
We should be proud that the Creator was an animal rights activist and put into our Torah more concern for animals than the world has for humans in many cases.
January 5, 2012 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm in reply to: Shidduch Crisis truer than we'd like to admit #841791BTGuyParticipantHi PinkOcean88
I dont know the answer, but it seems you need to meet someone a cut above the rest, so that is going to take a little bit more time. It is possible the shadchen is not so clear is what kind of young man is compatible for you. Maybe clarify with them what you are running into.
Another thing in the shidduch game is that every one is putting out they are so wonderful. All the boys are on record as being tzadikim and the girls as very big in chessed..etc. And that is understandable. Such an important thing has people wanting the best for their children. But we all can find a letter of recommendation whether one is the brightest in their class or a monster who needs to grow up.
Dont give up on finding the correct life partner. It means a lot for generations to come.
I hope you and your beshert find each other very very soon and he is wonderful beyond your imagination!!
Hatzlacha!
January 5, 2012 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm in reply to: Ending a Shidduch process is a reason needed #842108BTGuyParticipantHi adams.
Great point.
Not only would it be good for the shadchen to know, I would also like to know why someone would call a shidduch off after six or seven dates. What profound deal killer was allegedly discovered? Six or seven dates tells me there is/was a connection.
BTGuyParticipantTo underscore HaLeiVi’s reply to someone that things would be good under arab rule.
To quote the great, prophetic Rabbi Meir Kahane, zatzl, “How can there be peace between arab and Jew? There is no peace between arab and arab!”
Everything he said about this problem, was true, and has rung true to this very day!
BTGuyParticipantTalk about waxing philosophical. This is no regular can of lemon Pledge you are using here. lol
Seriously, thank you for your inspiring posts; to be thoughtful and purposeful.
I am sure the people you are working with could not be in better hands.
BTGuyParticipantHi yentingyenta.
Hope classes went well and you are off to a running start!
Hatzlacha!
BTGuyParticipantWhy Ban a magazine?
And, was it Ban roll-on, or spray?
BTGuyParticipantHi soliek.
It really is about the first line to a good degree.
As I am sure you know, being you are a writer, writers toil over an opening line and know it sometimes can make or break a book.
BTGuyParticipantHi Dave.
Am I serious about Donald? Am I the only one? Yes, I am serious, although the level of seriousness is relative with the pack of politicians we see in our times.
I dont care if Trump is also an attention seeker. Obama is worse and he is inept in all areas.
For better or ill, cartoon character or not, Donald has a lot of real world experience, and being a known persona, is not necessarily an unhelpful thing. He can conduct himself on the world stage in a reasonable way, again, in comparison to the others.
Specifically, I like his idea of American nationalism in the economic realm. I believe he is not beholden to anything or anyone, but his sense of commerce, and his own experience, and he will do good things.
The others cannot come near Donald either in rhetoric, and especially contacts and experience.
Christie, I believe, has psychological issues due to his weight problem. Like I said, I believe he cant stick to a diet so he is projecting onto us.
It is horrible to live in NJ. Everything is sky high.
The tone of the Christie Administration is basically: “New Jerseyans, dont expect anything new, and what you already have, will be cut in half”.
Yet tax payers kick up more and more and more money to Trenton. Taxes go up, prices go up….everything gets more expensive and you get less for the dollars.
Nothing is filling up the cup?
Christie is horrible.
Back to Trump. I am not voting for personality. I suspect they all are obnoxious in their own way.
Frankly, if you wanted to start or build a business, sorta your own little economy…who would you want to sit down with and talk to???
And, please, I know Trump had problems, and to me, that is a plus that he has had that experience.
Shlomo HaMelech said: A wise man falls seven times and gets up seven times.
And the comment behind that is the fact that when one falls, they get up again, that is where the wisdom is.
BTGuyParticipantFor crying out loud. People wanting to independently determine how they live in a nation that is theirs, is fundamental to life on earth.
There are too numerous Xtian based countries.
Too many muslim based countries.
There is one, tiny Jewish state and this is front page news regarding it’s validity???
GIMME A BREAK!!
I heard a humorous story that went like this:
Today, they are making it possible for there to be life on the moon. People can sustain communities on the moon.
So, in light of that, why not give it to the palestinians? They can take as much space as they want!
Someone responded that the palestinians dont want to go to the moon.
Another person said they have a brilliant idea to get the palestinians to go to the moon.
Here is the idea: Send a few Jews to go live on the moon and then the palestinians will demand to go to the moon.
BTGuyParticipantHi gavra-at-work.
Again…(for the last time) what do you mean by “Exactly” lol
You are being anything BUT exact by saying, “follow the SA”. I think that is officially called an over generalization and is in no way a proof or defense.
Since you failed to get anywhere near as detailed as the quotes and statements provided to you, I take it you are stuck and just holding to your opinion.
By the way, you do get Schar by giving to someone who ends up being a fraud. I know from whom I learned that from, and you probably heard of his name too.
I appreciate your tenacity, but it does not contain any proof or quote from where get the idea that one does not get schar by giving without investigating, should the collector be a fraud.
You also failed to say where YOU “draw the line” when you “sense” someone may be a fraud. I am interested in how you can tell from ten collectors at your door, who may be a fraud, and then hold back from giving them a few bucks.
Again, throwing us to the “SA” is not a response.
I do agree with one thing, to ask our LOR.
So please dont poskin, in the meantime, for anyone to hold back tzedaka from anyone asking unless they KNOW the person is a fraud, a per the SA. What you are telling us to consider and act upon, again, is not Jewish.
In fact, the SA says not to give ONLY if you are CERTAIN someone is a fraud, and it even says do NOT investigate when someone is asking because they or someone they know is hungry.
The tone of your posts implies to not give even outside those parameters, yet you have failed to give a basis for your view.
I hope you stand corrected.
BTGuyParticipantTrump/Santorum
My dream ticket would be Guiliani/Cain, but Rudy wants to eat hot dogs and go to Yankee games. I guess he has a right to chill out now.
Career politicians and talking heads and academics and trust fund babies who have not made a dime on their own and Jersey governors who cant stick to a diet but put their constituents on a harsh finanical diet equivalent to a 500 calorie a week diet, all with no real world experience, have ruined this country.
The further we go back to the American Founding Fathers, you will find they were capable of “doing” good things, and not “talking about doing” good things. Winning a debate does not translate to rolling up your sleeves and going to work.
BTGuyParticipantHi gavra-at-work.
Exactly what point?
You WOULD hire a private investigator to check on the person?
At this point I think you backed yourself into a corner, and on a topic that is not a light weight one.
As a reminder, the thread is discussing someone who “senses” the one seeking tzedaka does not have a genuine need.
In light of a rabbinic quote, statements from the Aruch HaShulchan, with all due respect, where exactly DO YOU draw the line when YOU “sense” someone is not genuinely needy? And, what makes you “sense” they are not needy?
You dont have to give a specific answer since most of us follow the Jewish perspective.
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