Randomex.. Thank you for those suggestions, I will keep them in mind. 😀

RebYidd23. WAIT A SECONT! lol. Your syllogism was severely riddled with faulty conclusions. I know you wrote that just in jest.

I would not bother trying to defend, or use that formula for further proofs. lol

Just for fun, you said: Mushrooms grow on plants or sometimes animals. They convert the plant matter into mushroom. Therefore, mushrooms are vegetables. Cows eat grass. Grass is a plant. Plants are vegetables. Cows are vegetables.

1. Mushrooms can even grow on walls. They decompose organic material to make other mushrooms, but they stay mushrooms. They dont become walls, animals, plants, or whatever else they decompose. lol

You syllogism of: Mushrooms convert plant matter into mushrooms, therefore, mushrooms are vegetables, is a faulty conclusion right off the bat. Everything after that is “food” for thought.

In a round about way, its sorta like saying if you ate an orange and you digest it to sustain yourself, you are an orange. You are not an orange. When you have a hamburger, you are not a hamburger. We can be meat heads, but that is different. lol

“They” say our cells are totally renewed every seven years. That renewal is fueled by our diet on the physical level. So, unless we ate humans, ………. we are cholent? And even if you sustained yourself by eating only cholent, are we cholent?

BUTTTTT!! You do bring up a fascinating concept. (If you are not yet snoozing) We all share atoms, which are the smallest building block of physical life. Its just the arrangement of those atoms that vary. According to Derech Hashem, everything in the Bria is very much connected and on deep level, one and the same. This was, in part an explanation as to how tzoras could infect a person’s wall first, and then their clothes, back in the day. Our “things” are not so far removed from us.

Hello! Mice breed pretty quickly, plus with cold weather coming, if there is an entrance somewhere to your apt., you may possibly be able to expect more. Trial and error episodes may need to have a deadline placed on them.

Hopefully, you will find a solution fast.

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I hear/read you 000646.

I guess I understand you view that you have a right to think specific procedures may not work, but what would be wrong with ALL measures of containment being enacted, even the ones that in hindsight would turn out to be fruitless, until we could have gotten a handle on this?

Again, Ebola is a dreaded plague in Africa and we must realize that the idea it cannot be such a problem in America is dangerous. Viruses mutate.

Aside from this, I am glad that most of those thought to be infected have not been, thank heaven.

On another, similar note, do you know just how off they are in the protection offered in the flu shots? And they have been offering them for decades, I think.

Professional health care workers have made arguments that flu shots are way off in offering protection from the strains that actually become manifest, and are not nearly as complete protection as believed.

Basically, we humans know about as little about things as we do know a lot about things. We have great knowledge on one hand and we are clueless on other hands.

I vote for extra measures to cover the bases of saving human life. And if I were a health care worker helping Ebola patients, and I had to be quarantined, I would never dare have the chutzpah to violate the protocol.

You peeked!

Hikind won for the same reason Sharpton would win in Harlem. Expect nothing normal and you will be fine.

Is it an offshoot of heterotoxicology?

There seems to be some linking this kind of toxicology to legitimate homeopathic medicine, but also critics who link it to quack medicine.

Weigh the possible risks and proceed with caution and do the research as you have been doing.

All the best!

Put him in a museum? What kind of compliment is that? lol

RebYidd23.

Yeah, well.. It was on the ground. I picked it up and threw it back down on the ground. You were just to angry to tell. But at least we both share the same sentiment. 😀

000646, you have made some valid points which are contrary to other views, but you give them improper priority in the hierarchy of importance. In other words, faulty conclusions.

And if it can be proven HIV was brought to America by a European, how does that in any way mitigate the dreaded origins of HIV in Africa, and it’s subsequent influence in America.

Maybe the European should have been banned from America and who knows how many lives would be spared from HIV.

You need to realize containing disease is not a new thing on the planet earth. Geographic quarantine does work and does save lives. You can’t rewrite the book on epidemiology. Well, you can, but no MD’s would read it.

On an altered lighter note, if someone sitting right behind you in shul lets out big juicy sneezes all morning, it’s all the same to you as if they had to stay home until their cold was no longer contagious?

The idea that Ebola is a dreaded plague in Africa, but in America there is no way it can ever be a problem, is false idea; and life threatening one, as well.

I also throw your cap on the ground to show my anger. 🙂

James B. You said, “Put the trap in a plastic bag and find a blunt object. Squish the head. The animal is dead instantly. Your squeamishness is no excuse for suffering.”

That advice may work for the first day on the job as a mafia hitman.

Frankly, I am glad all our advice does not use up the ink on this page. There are exterminators already using humane methods to get rid of mice quickly, and to ensure any possibility of disease is nipped right away. No one has to run around with plastic or hammers or funnels or nosh or buy cats or whatever or make motel reservations or whatever..

Call the professionals: Always go humane!

I hope someone steps up/forward and gives you a reasonable explanation. You seem like a reasonable person and deserve a response.

So, I see we have some fishphobes here.

Fish count, but not as pets? So you mean they count from one to ten kind of thing? Otherwise, your statement is contradictory.

Fish count as pets. I should know, I have them as pets. Ask any fish, ask any pet shop owner if fish are pets, a valid entity within the pet world and within pet shops.

I have them in my home, I look at them, they look at me, the swim to the top of the tank for food in the morning, I feed them, and on and on (although not too many more “on and ons”)

What do you think they are, scented candles?

Cemeteries are taking applications now?

Everyone should have a long, healthy, happy life to 120, but this is getting out of hand.

Fish count. I have a beautiful fighting fish that I enjoy taking time out to look out. The large fins and colors are something to behold, as well as it’s graceful swimming. And so they dont get mad, the two catfish are beautiful too, in their own way.

Be careful with hamsters. As of late, with all the weird breeding, hamsters seem to be a very fragile species and they dont usually live too long, and they get diseases fairy easily. Most hamster owners I know go through them pretty frequently.

Maybe walk through a Petsmart or something similar and take a look around. In any case, once you commit to taking care of them with the feeding and watering and cleaning, you will enjoy them and they will add a little something special to your day.

Interesting question!

On the one hand, Cuomo seems to be the only substantive politician around.

On another hand, no matter what any politician says about gay marriage and abortion, none of them will work to reverse the current trend. Very few conservatives even, who are running will clearly state they will reverse those matters. If they do, they won’t get into office.

Cuomo is not serving as Pope. He has to “represent” a constituency.

A similar example for us would be, if we were, say, mayor of Stamford, Ct., would we ban putting X-mas trees/decorations in the downtown area in December.

How much of our own political stewardship, if we were in office, could or should be a reflection of our own personal views versus the people we are elected to represent.

The Cuomo’s have a fantastic record of working with the religious community, noteably when Mario stood up to multi million dollar advertisers and their lobbying interests to take down non-tsniusdik signs in Times Square, from what I remember.

So I suspect that is the reason Satmar, who knows politicians have influence whether they are a mirror image of your values or not, whether you vote or not, and have decided to have a rapport with Andrew.

They do comment on every-single-article?

Well, I guess you are learning a lot about them.

Very few things are still free in this world. Post away before they start charging or you have to buy Red, Silver, or Gold posting memberships.

Is there a landlord associated with your apartment? Suggest an exterminator who uses humane rodent control.

Incidentally, I worked for a company that had mice and they put out those glue trap things.

While I am not a fan of mice, I saw a few of them stuck in those things and struggling to get free…their breathing rapid and they struggled to the point of almost dismembering a leg. It was terrible. They actually looked innocent.

I did some research, and during lunch,I went out and bought some vegetable oil and poured a few drops into those glue trap things. It allowed the mice to free themselves. I felt better.

I recommend humane humane rodent removal because ignorance is not always bliss.

As of this posting, it reads you started this post about three months ago. By now the computer should be well on it’s way to being broken on it’s own accord.

Awesome vayoel! 😀

Hi ari-free.

With all due respect, that view is outmoded and part of the conditioning process whereby people have not done their own research on the matter.

I applaud those innovators who have advanced science with advanced methods to determine what is suitable for humans, and moved beyond thinking results from other species apply to the human condition, and in the process spared countless lives of innocent living creatures, whether it is for medical research or consumer products.

Most people are in the box. If someone is striving to be out of the box, then they are not really out of the box. I dont think it’s a matter of choice. Out of the boxes should not be harshed by in the boxes, though. Let them be, learn from them, enrich your life by knowing them!

Hi RebbYidd23. I feel its unbecoming of Jews to participate in big lies. Historically, we have been victims of this like no other.

I understand it is not your fault. There is a “cultural” phenomenon in our community of people conditioned to parrot a particular spin on things with a sense of righteousness, even though they have zero direct experience, or have done any research.

Peta has done tremendous work to prosecute animal abusers and save the lives of animals used for experimentation, such as in the case of John Hopkins University adopting computer imagery over dissection of cats and pigs for students not really at the stage of declaring a specialty. And cosmetic companies using placenta to test ingredients instead of wiring up rabbits and monkeys.

Animal Liberation Front has also done some nice work, saving the rest of us time from having to work on solving tzar balei chaim injustices in this world.

In my experience, the only animals I see killed for no reason are the families who get their kinderlach pets like hamsters, gerbils, rabbits, etc., and when the kids stop feeding them for about a week, they release these “pet shop” pets into the woods, where they will not survive. Additionally, boys like to do things such as cover baby squirrels in Purell. Older boys like to throw bird eggs in the parking lot until all of them are broken, or they like to have contests throwing bricks to see who can joyfully knock a birds nest out of the tree first, whether the nest is occupied or not.

Other than those scenarios, I dont think Peta or ALF kill animals. They save them.

Absolutely not. You are shooting mercury into your veins because flu shots contain Thimerosal.

While there are batches that do not contain this evil metal, the local fascist health department in my county will not bother to separate the two kinds and allow you to select the one without.

Additionally, the shots rarely cover all or even any of the correct strains of flu bug that actually do come to the area you live in.

They say washing your hands a lot, being well rested, taking vitamins, and staying away from people who sneeze their spray all over the place is just as good a prevention, if not better.

And after shaking hands, wash before you eat a snack or rub your eyes.

Stay healthy everyone!!