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Ah, the branch bashing. My rebbe beats your rebbe! Shmuelgr, what do your older friends say?
Women “yent”, men “hock”. Hocking can be harassment if taken the wrong way. It’s the way of the gemara- maskif, masiv, mima nafshach, aderabba, tiyuvta, etc
apushitayid:
About 28 years ago, as a 9th or 10th grader, I heard R’ Chaim Mintz Shlita, speak at the leil Shabbos Seuda in Yeshiva Staten Island. He was giving mussar to “those bachurim who went into the kitchen and ate cholent late thursday night and erev shabbos”…He listed a number of reasons why it was wrong among them, that chulent is a “special maychel shabbos” and should be saved for shabbos, and eating it before shabbos is a zilzul in the kavod shabbos.
BINGO! But why is this here instead of the colored shirts thread?
Lulei sorascha, Veyatzmach, Shifchi kamayim libeich
My Rosh Hayeshiva ZT”L used to talk about how he came home one day with a black suit. His father, a talmid of the Alter of Slabodka, made him return it. He knew that wearing black and white, in imitation of chasidim, was a poor substitute for actual internal development.
As for why Bigdei Shabbos are different than Bigdei chol, this is a bayasa bekuscha. Shabbos is not weekday.
Sam2, why would a malach want to teach an innocent bas yisroel Tiflus in the womb?
To save time and prevent umbrage, I am fully aware of the heteirim to teach women Torah today. However they are heteirim based on an un-ideal condition. In an ideal condition, it’s anashim lilmod, venashim leshmoa. The Taz is lechora being consistent with his views in YD 246 on this.
Maybe they learn Torah for the first 40 days until the gender is determined.
Bais Yaakov of Boro Park has one principal per grade. You are just creating an unmanageable bureaucracy where kids get lost in the shuffle.
Also, you can ask the same thing of any balabos- why do we need his job? There are many others doing the same job. Let’s consolidate firms and save positions.
The Alter of slabodka used to encourage his talmidim to be individuals. That is how he could have talmidim ranging from Rav Aharon Kotler ZT”L to Rav Meir Chadash ZT”L to Rav Dovid Leibowitz ZT”L to Rav Hutner ZT”L. Today’s black-and-white dress and soundalike gedolim biographies is part of the trend turning yiddishkeit into a sedom-betel.
The concept of a shalom zachor is, according to the Taz, a form of seudas nechama for losing the Torah he learned in the womb. It does not apply to a woman.
A simchat bat done by those who don’t have the minhag is just another form of feminist revisionism, like women dancing on Simchas Torah.
Soliek, +1!
The rabbeim there used to fight the Rosh Hayeshiva ZT”L on this issue all the time. 15 years ago they were saying that the only other yeshiva that allowed colored shirts was Yeshiva of Flatbush. I understand why they are doing it, with the shortage of parents with enough seichel to understand that wearing white shirts does not make one a better talmid chochom. However, it’s a sad day when a Chofetz Chaim branch is forced to change the mesorah to match shallow perceptions. And it’s a sad reflection on the Flatbush community that colored shirts are viewed in the same light as jeans. No wonder so many kids have a shallow view of Yiddishkeit- it’s about the shirt color, not the inner penmimiyus.
Rabbi Harris’s sons all went “yeshivish”. One day rabbi Harris was sending a package of white shirts to one of his osns. He called them “Shabbos shirts”.
Gold and silver haven’t been money since 1971. It’s a lot harder to inflate your way out of debt when it’s based on actual precious metal than fiat currency. The Eurozone is having a similar issue- the unified currency means individual countries like Italy and Greece can’t inflate their way out of the crushing debt load since the supply has to be coordinated with fiscally responsible countries like Germany, making their Eurozone membership less and less likely.
As a husband, I am actually happy for the gold mines. By increasing supply they lower the price. And when the gold price collapses due to oversupply and the usual bubble bursting, gold will get even cheaper.
popa, thanks. Keshgaga hayotzei mipi hashalit…
shmuelgr, don’t plan on staying at wits long enough to graduate from Marquette. You will probably transfer your credits to cc.
My Rosh Hayeshiva ZT”L always had a smile on his face, even though he was dealing with heavy, weighty issues. I still wish I knew how he did it.
Jobs in Lakewood are hard to come by. The place is jam packed with kollel wives who need income. Some of my relatives used to drive an hour and a half each way to teach. BTW you need to kill your internet if you want to get your kids in the frummer yeshivas.
Your best bet is to call WITS. WITS, like Vancouver and Dallas that you asked about earlier, depend on your chevrah. where is your chevra going?
I always understood living in Lakewood meant giving up the finer things to be involved in an Ir Hatorah.
This is a clear chillul Hashem. Dina demalchusa dina. We’re still in galus.
Chazal say to do teshuva every day, because you don’t know when you will die. Words to live by.
Most vaadim exist to avoid the problems of Brooklyn, where it’s “anything goes”. A set vaad creates reliability. The Vaad of Queens has a rotating head to avoid politics- nobody gets too powerful and nobody becomes the target for too long. Not sure about the other vaadim.
Wow! Thanks, Feivel. The nifla’os haborei are mazing.
There IS no typical “CC” seminary. Girls who marry into cc families come from all types of seminaries. You need to pick the seminary that most matches your personality and skill sets, and nobody here is qualified to answer that for you. This is for your rav or high school principal. i wish you much bracha and hatzlacha.
Thom,first of all I would like to say I feel for your predicament. Being unemployed is no fun.
Using a computer all day without purpose leads one to go stir crazy. You lose your focus and ability to be a mentch.
One thing going to yeshiva does for you is give you both a schedule and purpose in waking up. They have morning kollels designed for people in your situation. Alternatively, you can arrange for a chavrusa in many yeshivas. I wish you much bracha and hatzlacha.
Thank you moderators for all your gracious efforts. We know you do this for free.
Mr Rebbe ZT”L used to say that a coed high school was a churban. he once told a big donor who was building a coed high school that he’s building a churban- during the actual fundraising meeting! The guy got upset but 2 weeks later sent the yeshiva his usual donation.
Why don’t you let both roshei yeshiva make their pitch and decide? Any cc bochur in the cr is not the person to make the decision for you.
Zeeskite, Not lies, fibs. You change your story so often that everyone knows not to take you seriously.
Baal habooze, agreed 100%. Many of us here are personally hurt. Mod42’s most recent post hit me hard.
Be happy! Smile! My Rosh yeshiva ZT”L always had a smile on his face, even though he was dealing with weighty issues. A true eved Hashem realizes that Hashem runs the world, and is always happy.
It’s pretty pashut, I’m not sure why people aren’t “chapping”.
It’s not the masseh as much as it’s the kavanah. 2 people turn on light bulbs on shabbos. One gets off scot-free, the other gets skilah. Why? Because one was being misaseik when putting on his jacket, the other turned it on after eidim and has’ra’ah.
In English, willful intent to commit an aveira vs chance occurrence.
While the mussar seforim say to avoid all lies, casual lies like many of the accounts here (pba, zeeskite, etc) are done to KILL their ne’emanus on anything, and are clearly not for fraud. A lie said in order to defraud is much more malicious.
Eid echad ne’aman be’issurin. If someone says I am a rabbi and this piece
Jothar was me’orer a zehirus- people need to be careful about what they post, quoting the murder of Leiby kletzky HY”d as a sevara for the added zehirus.
AYC shterred the zehirus. He/she said no need to be careful. AYC was me’id on him/herself that he/she was a kletzky to give him/her added ne’emanus. She said, you can believe me on this issue, I’m a Kletzky. If this is sheker (and I am still being dan lekaf zechus that it is not, as per halacha), then it is eidus sheker and makes the person passul. I hope that rabbonim are contacted before any further actions are taken. Mesira is a serious issue.
What kind of tzaros went away? Do I want to know?
I doubt the mods can be shmeared here..they’re way too honest.
Haleivi, bemechilas kevod torascha, when someone is accused of massim asher lo yaasu and you say “yes he did it but it’s ok”, then you are saying “he’s guilty according to your definition, and everyone else, just not according to mine”. In other words, you are saying he’s guilty.
I’m not sure how someone saying “you can trust my kashrus, I’m a kletzky” is ideological. It’s a personal eidus of trust. This is pashut lechol bar bei rav dechad yoma. I am dan lekaf zechus that he said this as emes. I agree with charlie that the mods had to take precautions (gedaliah ben achikam was not supposed to be mekabeil but was supposed to take precautions, but I look forward to AYC clearing his name. He is kosher until established as treif for giving false eidus on himself.
Did anyone here read the sefer Chofetz Chaim? Someone has a chezkas kashrus until proven otherwise.
Haleivi, I imagine too that if someone says they are part of a family, they are part of that family. Especially if someone uses that as a proof that he’s trustworthy. So if someone is caught lying on apoint that was used in their defense, that makes them a muchzak shakran and definitely a chashud, and deserves to be blocked, and maybe even prosecuted for fraud. Someone who’s motto is mi Lashem Eilei should understand the concept of titamu chataim ureshoim od einam.
But until the mods tell us, we are MECHUYAV to dan lekaf zechus that this rish’us didn’t happen, that we were not played like a harp by this account. I eagerly await the good news from the mods.
BTGuy, it’s hard to say it’s a witch hunt by the mods when the poster is being every chance to prove his/her innocence. It was a Kletzky who said there is ragalayim ledavar of a chashash fraud, so the mods have every right to be mevarer the matzav. The witch hunt is happening by posters (Lolkatz, Jothar, Haleivi) who are pre-judging and violating betzedek tishpot amisecha. I eagerly await the good news from the mods, and eagerly await more bon mots from ayc.
Haleivi, innocent of the charges of sheker for the purposes of geneivas daas, otherwise known as “stalking and impersonation”. It’s barur upashut to everyone with seichel that if guilty, ayc is deservedly banned. By saying “AYC’s guilty but so what”, you are HURTING his case. Clearly the Kletzky family is concerned.
But he’s innocent until proven guilty, and MUST be put on a chezkas kashrus.
Haleivi, AYC is innocent of the charges until the mods tell us otherwise. Making up ludicrous analogies based on a guilt we don’t know yet is HURTING AYC, not helping.
I look forward to happy news from the mods that this was a misunderstanding, and we can all welcome back ayc with open arms.
One is MECHUYAV to dan AYC lekaf zechus until this is clarified. And if it is clarified, one is MECHUYAV to consult Daas Torah before calling the police. Let’s not confuse halacha with petty revenge.
I weould like to remind everyone that one is MECHUYAV to be dan AYC lekaf zechus until it is clarified one way or another.
My Rosh Yeshiva ZT”L used to quote the gemara from Derech Eretz Rabbah perek 5, where even though one is dan lekaf zechus, you still have to take precautions and be chosheid every stranger even without being mekabel.
It honestly switches every year. It’s hard to get a definitive answer because of the “my branch is better than your branch” naarishkeit that everyone goes through.
Years ago, when Rabbi Harris came to HQ from Brooklyn, one of the Brooklyn guys, who enjoyed bashing Wits and the other branches, began spreading the rumor that Rabbi Baruch Rauch would come from Milwaukee to bahelf the shiur.
Furthermore, even if you could ascertain which branch is more serious, it might not be the best branch for you. Different people have different emotional needs. Some branch roshei yeshiva are colder and more distant. Others are warmer. Some have a style which you may not like, eg the vast difference in styles between Rabbi Rauch and Rabbi Luban. With so many factors, only a rebbe who knows you well and knows the metzius on the ground can give you a definitive answer.
Depends on the rebbe you speak to. Each branch rebbe will honestly tell you that their branch is the best for your needs. Each branch needs kids. So the only one to trust is your rebbe. Each yeshiva changes depending on which chevra goes there. Ultimately, the way it usually works is that one member of your chevra gets brainwashed/convinced, and the rest of the chevra goes along with it. As long as you work hard, you will have hatzlacha anywhere.