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The simple reason is, Torah will help you acheive the goals you set for yourself (assuming the goal you set is being an Oved Hashem).

Without a map, how can you check your progress? Without a blueprint, how can you build a stable structure?

And like any goal worth achiving, you need to have training from people who have experience (our gedolim, manhigim,).

A very qood question, indeed, Yita!

And for the record, not only to I not have /had girls in BYBP, my mrs did’nt go there either. So the BYBP problem is really not my concern (unless you consider the possibility that my DILs may come from there).

And no, this is NOT a community moisad. Its a “for profit” venture. Most years were wildly profitable, now they hit a rough spot. They’ll get over it.

That said, the teacher who is owed $ may not be able to wait it out as smoothly, so I (and several other CR members) were prepared to help out the rank-and-file. But to send $ to the office? Forget it. Thats what the parent body is there for

If I remember correctly, the idea (and the only one I would be interested in) was to send the $ to YNW and have them relay it to a teacher that is owed $.

If BYBP never missed a payroll, what’s the crisis?

EDITED

Its one thing to corral a guy when all he’s got is a stick or a pipe (bats can kill, so I won’t include that).

But a gun? No, that’s beyond what Shomrim should try to contain. Unless, there is imminent danger to someone else, I’d say, let the guy escape.

“People who display contempt for and make entire groups of people into caricatures”.

That could easily be me, and if I’m the one you meant, I’m sorry. If its not me you had in mind, I’m still guilty of this, so I ask mechila. Like you said, we sometimes express our opinion to give voice to those we feel are being taken (or taking) advantage of. Still, its no reason to take it to the gutter.

Mechila!

My response would be” right now, it feels like silk, but I’m planning to shave after the wedding, so it really won’t matter, will it?”

This was done last week (the thread was called Mochel Loch). But it is worth repeating.

The heat in the CR gets turned on a bit to high sometimes, so I’m asking mechilah for anyone who I offended, anyone who acted on something I posted and it did not work out to their satisfaction, and more importantly, anyone who would have liked to post a comment but hesitated to do so, becuase of my (sometimes) smart-alecky way of saying things. (Mod 80 gets a special mechila request, even though its not deemed necessary by his reckoning.. and thanks for the new member id tag. I hope I can live up to it!)

By the 3rd time I was hooked!

Funny choice of words, seeing as we’re talking about fish, which is indeed hooked!

Sad to see them on the ropes, Blinky. I have more sympathy for a specialty school than I do for the powerhouses.

Things are a little nuts now before Yom Tov, so the “diplaced students” may not land a spot right now, but once the school year gets back to a regular 6 day scedule, I’m sure they’ll all find an appropriate home.

As far as the $ pledge, as soon as YNW posts where to send it, I’ll gladly do so

Blinky – Is the school you refer to one of the mainstays of the community, with 200-300 kids? Or is it a “specialty school” with 30 kids that caters to a select group? Not to say its not a problem if its “only” 30 kids, but I’d still like to know the scope of the school that folded (or has a delayed opening)

Not so remarkable. They DO have the money to stay afloat. Or they defer paying selected bills / salaries until they are in a more flush position.

When they talk “crisis” what they really mean is cash flow. When its plentiful, there is no problem. When there is the sign of a slowdown they yell and scream.

When the general public hears of a poor kallak or orphan, we open our hearts and wallets. When we hear of a school “whose very pillars are wobbling”, “we cannot open our doors this Sept”, we ect, ect”, all of a sudden the public takes a more critical look.

Are they struggling? Sure, if last year you got handed a check for $50,000 and this year its only $10,000 yes, you have a problem. But who told them to base a budget on the $50,000? That was a gift, not earnings (or in their terminology, tuition).

I was raised to only spend 80% of my earnings (10% for tzedakah, 10% gets banked). Mosdos spend 120% of what they net. So who’s fault is that?

the great stress that moderators are constantly confronted with

Take my advice, Mod. Spend some time in the CR as a member. Nothing soothes the nerves like a good jolt of coffee (that is, until you see the dreaded EDITED. then the stress levels go off the charts!)

And as far as my $100.. not to worry. Its in my budget, otherwise I would’nt have pledged it. Unlike Mosdos, I can only spend what I really have.

I had no problem posting it last year, nor repeating it this year. The data was provided by Rabbi Shapiro last year.

Either way, no one is sympathetic to an organization that spends without oversight. Not to worry though; they will pull thru. The junior teachers will get squeezed, but the senior ones will get their pay.

EDITED

I was right. This WAS discussed last year. There was a thread that clocked almost 400 posts.

Here was one of mine. It dealt with the numbers that BYs own Rabbi Shapiro provided to Hamodia. As you can see, there is plenty of income; just plenty more overhead / expenses.

Tell me why a school needs staff / student ratio of 1:5

And 5townsmommy – living in the 5 towns, you cannot even imagine what we Brooklyn people go thru. Not all of us live on Beford and I. Tuition in your neighborhood is high? Rightfuly so.

(From last year’s thread)

this was the math I came up with over the weekend:

This is based on comments from R’ Shapiro’s interview in Hamodia’s weekend edition: Staff is about 400 people, figure about $3,000,000

Tution roll of aproximatly $8,000,000 (2000 students @ $4000)

That means there is still another 5 mil to work with. All that goes for chalk and copy paper? PLus, there was no mention about govt $ (which must surely be in the very high 6 digits). Sad fact is, no one is minding the store, becuase for SOOOO many years, there was more money coming in (a quick trip to XYZ gevir could yeild $50 grand, just for asking) so it was never a problem. Now, its a problem?

Sounds like someone is due for an audit. I’ll bet any business man or woman with 10 years experience could revamp BYOB and make it profitable. But that would require full disclosure on BY’s part… something mosdos will NEVER agree to.

And that is why the public is so sceptical and so complacent. Do they want help, or do they just want more money? We’d love to help. Money? Hmm. Not so fast

I’m in for $100, if it goes straight to a teacher.

Mod 80, if you (or YWN) would like to spearhead this, I’ll mail the check this week.

Simple. Move on to the next room (out of town, not of your “kreis”, working instead of learning, ect) where a different round of chairs are waiting to be occupied.

You’d be pleasntly surprised how big a selection there is,if you’re flexible. But sadly, AZ you are right; if every single insists on “the best bocher in BMG” there is a crisis indeed

Disagree. If the school cannot cover its expenses, better the child be sent to a school that can handle him / her before the ball drops. Nothing is as disruptive as switching schools mid-year

We need also not be super-focused on the “older single guys” either. There are dozens of non “a++ super cool best bocher” bochurim, that are just fine young men, that are quite suitable for their girl counterparts among us.

The problem is, shadchanim (and to some extent parents) think their chils (either gender) is a++ super cool best boy/girl, wether its the case or not. And heaven forbid,someone to suggest anything less than 5-10 years support (or agree to w-o-r-k shortly after marriage) and that shidduch goes down the drain.

Do we have a shidduch crisis? Yes, sort of. Can we fix it? You bet we can!

“rollerblades, and the new type of skate board”

Its called a rip stick. And could you tell me what is wrong with rollerblades?

As it happens, rollerblading is one of 3 questions I plan on asking the shadchan (1st is the paper / plastic situation and #2 is the animal.)

OK, I’m kidding about question 1 and 2.. but rollerblading is a real question. Not to say a fine suggestion that has never ‘bladed is out of the running.. as long as she’s willing to learn how 🙂

Surely he could get a job as a CR mod!

Seroiusly, my guess would be either an HR managers position or teacher (I think the public school system will take you as a Fellow with a degree of any type). Another option would be the FBI. No, I’m not kidding. My friend told me they were huge recruiters when he was in Fordham / YU

What I find funny, is this “shell under a t-shirt” look has been worn in the modern orthodox (think: Stern College girls) for years, and now I see this on my wife’s friends who are TEACHERS in Bklyn Bais Yaakovs. And, its everywhere you look in BP.. even on the girls who wear # 70s / women with covered shaitels.

Good morning, frumsters of America! You’ve just been upgraded to MO!

“the discussion is about rebbeim who are not getting paid”

What I meant to say is, the rebbeim SHOULD walk and let the hanhallah see how tough it is to replace quality staff. And while it might be (is?) wise to add a new fresh face to the staff mix every now and then, without a solid backbone of proven, seasoned rebbeim, no yeshiva can make it (unless you’re talking about an upstart outfit with 2nd grade and under only).

Of course, this will mean that only the good staffers will either be taken back (or hired elsewhere) but that’s how it works in the corporate world, and sad to say, yeshiva has become a business, so you need to be ready to play hardball.

Wrong paste, Helpful (but would love to hear your best CC cookie receipe, all the same 🙂

Shloima Carelbach (No, I did not mean to write ShLOMO)

Lipa

Matisyahu.

All 3 were /are innovators and shook up the music world as we knew it. Plus, they reach an audience that others either miss or overlook