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I’m so glad that this thread was revived. I was thinking of a new thread similar to this, just this morning, and your line (the tune was in my head) gave me the push to post it.
I’m with Wolf andf Aries. I doubt its the “money”, as much as the attitude of entitlement that today’s kids have.
The parents should advance the money (I’d guess its under $100) and have the girl work to pay it back (say $20 / week). That can be earned with ease, and it makes both sides feel like they won.
What I think would help solve this problem, is if info was only given to people you meet face to face. When someone is reduced to an 8×11 sheet of data, then its only the “data” that is being assaulted. Where the shadchanim to meet the girl and boy face to face, then you would be dealing with “people” and not data. While people may not think twice about treating data with disregard, they might be less likley to do so with someone they “know”
“Are you clarified now”
Not really, but thats ok. Still, your choice to spell / pronounce a word with the chassidsh accent must be a result of something. Maybe a sign of things to come….?
At this point, WIY, the benz might be considered an American car, as they merged w/ Chrysler. Or we can rely on Jackie Mason’s heter 😉
And Sac, yes I did see that, but not at the LA show review. The problem w/ Ferrarri is the cars all look the same, year after year.
Blinky, I’ll be at the other post in a few.. we’re talkin’ cars here!
I know the GS 3 was getting a bit long, but there was some critical info listed there about new cars on the market.
Has anyone seen the LA car show review? (its on the NY Times site)Let me save you a bunch of time, and scroll down till you get to the 2012 Mercedes-Benz CLS63 AMG. And be sure you keep one hand free, so you can close your jaw when you see the photo.
Sigh, if I were a rich man…..
Ok, one more wisecrack, and then a serious reply:
How many hours? From alos hashachar till yitzias neshomoh (will translate, if needed)
How many really? 9-10 in the busy season, 8-9 under normal conditions. Friday’s depend on the time of sunset, regardless of how busy it is
I not so surprised, as most “brisk” talmidim have a healthy dose of Hungarian in them, so your zeidi (or most likely, your zaideh) has a bigger influence on you than you realize.
As far as the chassidish-part that tripped you up, it was the word “Jam”.
Nuances, nuances.
including or excluding time spent in CR?
I can’t speak for all places, but ours has a digital lock, so if you need after hours access, its pretty easy to get. And your card can be set so the time-clock limits allow you in when it works for your secd. And most places have a back-up Bor.
As far as the 365, I suppose if it were really imperative, you could go motzio YK and TB.
But were that the case, you’d need a whole lot more than access to mikvah. A whole lot more.
And just to show hakoras hatov to YWN for hosting the CR, MC collection (who is an advertiser on YWN) should also be mentioned as a choice. They are in the $750 range, and will give you 3-5 years of decent wear (at least, that’s our experience)
Eclipse –
You are right about Kensington moving into the 21st century. Many of our friends live there, and some of them beat us to a pulp, it terms of snazziness. As a general rule, over 50, you’re as shlump as they come. Under 30, you could be plopped onto K and 27th and look like you live there.
And poster, after 20+years of hearing about shevys, chevys, kikis, twinkies, ect I’ve seen and been thru most of these t’kufos with my own Mrs. The zha zha is still a few decades away, but its coming…. (right along with the velvet lapels for my grey herringbone coat. And blue/gold scarf)
Some things just need to be that way
“full compliance” is something you measure yourself, each day. Met the goal you set for yourself last week? Great. Now set a newer one, and try to meet that. Ruchnius (however you define it) really has no limit, other than the one you impose on yourself.
And no, it does not need to be 5-10 hours of learning, after work While nice, might prove to be a bit impractical. Instead, how about aiming for 60 minutes in a hour (borrowed line, not my own)or turning off your crackberry during davening. Or keeping your eyes from wandering where they don’t belong.
I could keep listing, but as long as your goal is to be more than you were yesterday, kol hakovod. If your goal is to see what lines I can re-define in the pursuit of all the good things in the oilam ha’gashmi, you’re driving a wedge between you and your true potential (wow, doesn’t that sound inspiring, without name calling and labeling?)
Grada – as it happens; as a matter of fact
L’choira – theoreticaly
Taka – no kidding, really (sometimes used in question form)
l’mesia – in reality, practicaly speaking
Brisker – I figured you’re not from any of the above. Although your yiddish is very good (very, very good), its still yeshivish yiddish.
I’m going to tell you in a minute, Tuna. But first, grab a jar, and bottle up some of your temimuskeit so that later doros will know what once walked this planet. (and tell your parents, rebbeim, counslors, and everyone else thank you. They did a great job in making you who you are).
An oisvorf is a outcast, a rebel, a shaygetz, a bad dude.
You are none of the above. Trust me, when you see a tuna, you’ll know the difference.
Blinky –
You’re point about the “yeshivish shprach” dialouge that Lakewood and Brisk had running was more yiddish than I would expect from 2 “yeshivish” people. So much so, that I was beginng to suspect BP / Willy / Monroe in the background.
That was untill I spotted some dead-giveaways that yiddish is not the mama-lushen (small things, but givaways, none-the-less).
But YOU Blinky, have me totally confused. You claim not to be Chassidish, yet used the word “l’maaseh” instead of the more yeshivish “l’maiseh”.
So.. what gives?
$50, but that covers Purim too. And only up till 8th grade. HS and beyond, my kids are self sufficent, so there really is no “extra mile”
Most places have magnetic cards, so you can access them 24/6. Pick the location that works best and get a monthly card (usually around $30/mo)
Just be sure you check the maintenece crew’s scedule, as that would make for a VERY unpleasant surprise.
“a guy like youis not a tunabeigel”
He has a point, Tuna. A true tuna bagel would not be happy in the CR and 90% of his (or her, in the case of a tuna baguette) posts would not make it past the mods.
Sorry tuna, you’re too eidle to be a real oisvorf.
“feather”
Ooh, did you get me where it hurts.Mod-80. Not only did my bar-mitzvah hat have the feather, it had a braided band too boot. And was a stetson.
Es chatioa ani maszkir haiyom
“behind closed doors they will do certain unyeshivish things but in public for the most part they come across more or less Yeshivish. “
WIY – you are right, the tuna beigel is more “in your face” than the modern yeshivish, but to the truly yeshivish person, its the same avlah.
Neither one (the tuna or the MY) really wants to be bound by the full program, but still want to “identify” with the group they stem from.
Sorry to say, you gotta choose. If you’re not striving for full compliance, you’re bound to start sliding. That’s life in the material world.
I figured someone would find it funny. Glad it was you, WIY. Enjoy the laughs, cause when you’re the one footing the $1500 bill, it ain’t no laughing matter 🙁
Tuna, your definition is chillingly accurate.
Did anyone spot the letter in this week’s Hamodia about teens selling black market cigarettes? Seems this is a huge business, and costs a fraction of the store level retail price. It also explains how some bucherim can pay for their habits.
I just hope the ATF doesn’t want a piece of the action.
Before you choose a shaitel, you need to determine the “look” you want to achieve:
the “Frumpy” (fro the Kensington look)
the “Sister-in-law” (for the cutting edge Lakewood look)
the “Here comes trouble” (for the BP tuna baguette look)
the “No-nonsense” (for the 5th Grade BY teacher look)
the “Madricha” (for the Seminary boss look)
the “Zsa Zsa Gabor” (for the Hungarian babby look)
the “Ar’tiss’ten” (for the well-to-do Willy look).
Its no longer as simple as it once was, Cookie. So choose carefully!
Won’t matter one wit. No one who smokes thinks its not a health hazard. They just don’t care.
Thanks for a great thread, RealBrisker. Over Shabbos, we noticed our son used the word “punkt” and could not recall him using it in the past (which he no doubt has, we just didn’t notice it)
But the real shocker, was my mother, who is as far from yeshivish as you can get. She used the word “grada”, and the table went silent. (This from a BY of Willamsburg 1950’s girl, poodle skirt, saddle shoes, letter on the sweater, the whole bit)
Go figure.
Not yet. I did go to the site, but since I don’t have web access at home, the only way for me to listen to a shiur is by downloading it (and I keep forgetting my MP3 player at home).
I know people who went to Rocking Horse ranch, and they were very happy. Not to $$ and not too far from NYC.
If you’re the outdoor winter sports type, this is a good place to consider
“Shabbat dinner”
A word of caution, Minyan Gal. After the 1st few fork-fulls, you might feel the urge to invite people to the “shabbis seedah”
This is normal. With time, it will start to feel natural.
Sick, but comes as no surprise. Peta nuts will go wild over a fur coat. But ask them if they have a problem with thier I-phone or I-whatever whose components come from countries that employ child labor at 10 cents an hour if that is a problem..?
They can’t answer, becuase they did’nt hear the question. The music was playing too loud.
Narrow your choices down to 4, and check the academics, speak to parents who now have kids in the schools.
Then go to each of the schools at arrival time, lunch /recess time and dismissal. That will show you the kids (and some of the parents) as they truly are.
Very good, Mod! I like that!
Ok, now I see it. But still, in the choices you listed, I didn’t see Lay-chu as one of the choices. I mean, don’t you think us BPers have any feelings?!
Gift giving is always a good move, so whatever / how many you give, you doin’ fine.
Just make sure you don’t drop a hot latke in Chosson’s lap (or drip custard / jelly / conf. sugar on him). That would be a bad way to commemorate your first channukah.
Ok, sarcasm is over. Kallah, just relax. Made it past shevah brachos without a shouting match? It smooth sailing from here (till the kids / kids-in-law arrive, but that’s a whole other thread)
Sorry, Squeak, I tried the link, but could not figure out what you were directing me to. (but I did get the Rabinowitz joke!)
And I also stumbled across the “poison-take it” joke in the link, so it was a good lead after all!
If you can spell out the “leah” thing, I might get it
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Anyone figure them out?
Poppa, I was going to go with Possible and Not Possible
“Balvenie Doublewood”
9 shots? That’s a $15 pick-me-up! I’d have to be pretty upset to require such a calm down. I can’t think of anything that would set me on fire that bad. Except for maybe someone blocking my driveway…
“I CANT UNDERSTAND A WORD YOU ARE SAYING!!”
The Rosh replied,
Blinky.. have you been listening to the bochurim talk on their way to yeshiva?
I don’t recall you mentioning brothers or BILs, and that last sentence sounded VERY yeshivish!
can I edit the EDITED parts of my post?
“You do realize that you can buy the EXACT bag that they use and make them for yourself at home.”
Tried it, but the oven does not do the job like a deep fryer. And there is also no way to duplicate the weeks old saturated oil they have.
Besides, the “scene” adds to the experience!
That’s only in the super-yeshivish Kensetonian clans, where names need to be a minimun of 3 sylables (for those nebachs that were not crowned with 2-3 names).
In BP proper, Leah would be “Laychu” to Babby and Shvigger, and when listed on the “hostess” roll call. (sorry, Leah just doesn’t lend itself to Gangsta shprach)