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For under $500, you can get a 4 shelf, with 2 doors below. OK, maybe not mahogany or cherry. But for starters? A Formica over particle board is just fine. That way, when they are ready for an upgrade, they can move the $500 in to the kids room.
I find it funny that people think a young couple needs the same things that couples married for 10+ years (with 2 salaries, I might add) have. If they get the full package now, what will they aspire to later?
” I’m sure its a benign comment. “
Good call, 80. After all, Sacrilige is such an eidel maidel!
Please Sac, tell me how you manange to get that past the Mods :D. From time to time,I get the EDITED potch, and need to know how to skirt the line, without getting whacked.
I paused for a min before approving it but then i thought: no I’m reading too much into it, knowing the poster I’m sure its a benign comment.
I’ll not address the “preference” comment, but the “can I return to the community” question, the answer is YES! I deliberatly left off the “mainstream” part, as each of us have a different idea of what “mainstream” means.
OK, I will address the “preference” comment. Take it from a former sinner; you only feel this way, becuase the yetzer horoh is telling you, you’re beyond hope. IGNORE HIM! You’re beyond hope when they start shoveling dirt on your coffin.
Till then, you are always able to come back.
Already there, 80.. already there. (Chime in? Be glad I didnt dive into the screen!)
And Sac, real men drink bourbon, but real RICH men drink scotch. Give me a choice of 21 y/o scotch or a bourbon of the same age, and I’m off to the highlands!
“I would like him to chime in here”
Are you kidding? I see a post on booze, and you think for a BP minute,I’m not in on the action?
The only thing I woould add is this: any of the Kentucky batches are good and you can get something nice for $35 – $50. Woodford is a good choice. The Wild Turkey, Rare Breed we have now, is a bit too high a proof for my liking (101), so aim for something a bit lighter (in case I stop by 🙂
“I paid Maserati price because I wanted to have an 8 cow car. “
Poppa – THAT was hilarious!
OK, I’ve been banished to my corner, as I don’t have a funnier comeback.
Blinky, I hope you’re enjoying this ;(
Cookie – we sort of do “know each other” We may not recognize one another while standing on line at the bank, but we do have an on-line personality, and showing off is not a hallmark of the CR (except for showing off your smarts). But I’m backing off, becuase I took it a bit too serious, and Poppa put it in perspective (Great line, poppa!)
Its me – Now we’re talkin’! I have a front fork suspension / hardtail MTB and an old 10-speed (still can’t make up my mind which i like better, but thats a whole ‘nother thread. Please start one, if your an addict like me!)
JG – honda oddessey 2011 – Now your’re talkin’! But that’s not showing off.. thats a mitzvah to be me’farsem!
Eclipse – You would not BELIEVE what you missed in 24 hrs. Next time, consider giving up something else. I mean, whats next..? You’ll give up oxygen for 24 hrs?
Be reasonable!
I would look to parshas Achrei Mos / Kedoshim, but only for chizuk for yourself. They is really nothing you can say to the parents.
If anything, tell them you are learing a mishna a day in the baby’s zechus.
Good point, Sac. Ok, I’ll pony up another $375-$450 (ka-ching!)
And Blinky, if your’re out there, I happen to stumble across the joke you posted about us men applauding.
We do NOT enjoy having our intelligence poked fun at (whatever little of it we posses, that is ;(
Hey, wait.. was that a Ferrari that just zoomed by?
Ok, what were we talking about? Oh, never mind. I’m sure if its important, it’ll come back to me.
So, about that Ferrari that just went by…..
Haifa –
While I see your point, that’s still no reason to feel that you have no voice. With the rare exception of a family simcha, I’m rarely going to have a podium from which to speak. And I don’t ever see my writings getting published in a public paper (unless I pay for an Advetorial).
Know what? We are lucky to live in the digital age, so there is ALWAYS an open forum, and always an attentive audience. My chocmas may never make it to the “opinion page” of the haredi paper of record,(take your pick) but the CR is always (most of the time?) ready and eager to hear whats on my mind.
So, sound off, Hafia.. we are listening!
Squeak –
The thing that irked me was that this thread was not about, “I’m looking for a new car.. what does anyone suggest”; it was more a ranking system.
I’ve noted before, I have a leased minivan. Ho Hum. But to the person that is chalishing for a leased mv, my van is a touchy subject if I rub it into his (or her) face. True, I don’t try to hide it (I mean, where would you hide a 10 ft long van anyways?) but that still no reason for me to flaunt it.
And while I think (hope?) the folks that said they have the XYZ super-charged turbo, with Coach leather seats were pulling our collective legs, some of the posters were really serious.
Its just not who the CR usually is. (sorry if I sounded grumpy)
And Poppa, if you spot me on OP, I’d LOVE a ride in the Mase!
WIY –
I know 90% of the word’s meaning. I falling asleep because I’m zonked. But I did make progress; last night, I pulled out a siddur and left it on the kitchen table, but then got side-tracked, went to bed an hour later.. and this morning, found the siddur right where I left.
I’ll try harder tonight.
But Eclipse, how would we know if you’re visiting without commenting?
Besides, take it from a real CR junkie, as long as you’re not giving up time spent with live people, the CR is the BEST addiction you can have.
I mean, how much time can you spend doing dishes, anyways?
Bad move, Blink. That set of wheels is only good till 12:00 am.
You’d miss all the fun!
Sorry, WIY, I can’t side with you on this one. People need to feel wanted and needed. Maybe not all of us to the same extent as another, but on the whole, we live for validation.
Some of us are strong enought to build a base without hand-holding, many of us, (for at least part of the time)need to be part of a community. That’s what makes us human (as opposed to house plants)
“You know the whole Krias Shema Sheal Hamittah baal Peh? “
Mostly. The problem is, I tend to fall asleep before finishing it. That’s why I thought a siddur (and sitting upright) would be a huge help.
act all huffy:)
OK, you have a point, sort of. The diff?
When I talk cars, its a “wish-I-had” kinda talk. Here, its “I’ve-got-one-and-you-dont”
There’s a huge difference. But for you, Blinky.. we make an exception.
You’re ENTITLED to the horse-drawn carraige, being the Bas Melech you are!
And we are lucky to be allowed to toss rose petals, to carpet the ride (see? I can roll out the nice things when necessary!)
DR set? You’re kidding, right? My son was in 5th grade before we got a DR set.
Wanna know another secret? We did’nt get a BR set until 2 years afer the wedding. We got mattress/boxspring and linen on day one, and the basic linen set (not the $200-$400 sets they sell today, either).
And my down pillow / ducheneh? Thats swimming along in the pond, securely attached to the back of the duck.
Furnature? Of course! Lets see, what does a young couple need:
Dinette set ($800
Recliner (velour, not leather, $500)
sofa (ditto, $800)
bedroom set – $6000
Thats under $9,000 (or $4500 out of each side)
What’s that? A dining room set? No, I think not. They will be “eating out” for most of the 1st 2-3 years on Shabbos / Yom Tovim, and not hosting a crowd that exceeds a dinette set for at least 2 more past that.
They NEED one sooner? That’s cool. Let them earn the $$$ and buy it as soon as they have the cash. Not only that, if they come up with 50%, I’ll give them another 25% (the last haul can come from the mechittin.)
What if the person dies?
True, I did’nt think of that. Still, I don’t think that would mean the end of the persons self-worth. I think they could continue to reflect on what they meant to the person, and keep doing the things that made them worthy of the resepect they got during the lifetime.
My father’s father died before I was born, yet I try to live the life that would make him proud of me. And one day soon, I hope to see him face-to-face and look forward to him telling me, how he saw the things I went through and how tough it must have been, but despite that, he is very proud of me.
If we think about for just a moment, we can all think of someone to whom we are meaningful to. True, not all of us will earn accolades or plaques or applause. But that does not mean we are not worthy of it. It just means we’re not seeing it…yet!
Al Tisyaesh, people!
I’d like to start saying shema shel mittah from a siddur.
Oh, OK. So, out of CURIOSITY, had I posted my Edited comment here, would it have flown? (Ha ha, thats me, being a smart-alek)
OK, I don’t drive a rusty clunker, nor do I drive a Rolls. But really, people, what is the point of this thread? Just to show off? One of the nicest features of the CR is that each of us are measured by our inner selves (or at least, that which we choose to reveal), not by our looks or wealth or possesions.
I like the good things in life, and have lots of “stuff”. But why here?
C’mon folks. Its bad enough we flaunt it in the outside world. Can we please keep it under wraps here as much as possible?
I saw that poster too, and stopped short. But no, its not me (nor is it my father, who, as far as I can tell, does not even know how web browse).
$50 grand? Cookie, I’m sending my kids down the aisle on a whole lot less than that (I hope).
I mean, I know he wants a Breitling and a matching Bentley, but he’ll have to get by with a Movado and an Accord!
The last line of my post got axed, so let me rephrase:
If person A is still willing to go out with you, knowing you are dropping person B (and only went out with person B, because there was nothing better at the time) then I would say absolutly, go for person A.
You two deserve each other.
I must have missed something, as bagels are only eaten on moztoi shabbos, so whats the problem with the hot soup? (sorry, I had nothing else to contribute, and this struck me as witty)
I had Thursday off, but Mrs did not, so for a change, I spent the day off like a bochur! Me, myself and I!
But cannot imagine living this life all the time. Once in a while, ok (or a few times a year, ha’kol revach!)
But not to worry; Mrs has off chol hamoed and purim, but I don’t, so I guess its a wash
You would consider partner B while involved with partner A?
EDITED
You are correct, WIY. Clinical depression needs real professional attention; other cases can get by with just a well written book.
My goal is to reach the folks that feel ok 85% of the time, and just need a jolt for the other 15%.
Like coffee (the drinkable kind); it does not replace sleep. It just gets you jump-started.
Pithy? Is that all the idea ranked? Good thing its not my quote 😐
I think this thread is so important, I’m reviving it.
Here’s a thought:
To the world, you might be just one person, but to one person, you just might be the world!
How’s THAT for a self esteem builder!
The real benefit to taking lessons is they don’t pick up the bad driving habits we “experienced” drivers tend to have.
You’re welcome,MG. But to be honest, the compliment was for Blinky’s “Yankee doodle” post.
But I liked your too!
Here’s my shot (ttto “I’m a little tea pot”)
I’m a kalla maidel
Sweet and smart
Temimusdik from end to start
My bahsert will be here any day
I’H without delay!
Sorry, I was’nt clear.
They can’t have it 2 days in row, if they did not get a normal nights sleep.
The point of limits are, they need to plan ahead, not just do.
That’s what gets teens (and young single boys) into hot water. They don’t think ahead
I heard about this last year and called the store that was listed as selling it to see if it was a hoax (they assured me it was not).
I don’t care how rich you are. For generations, silver has graced the shabbos table. This is obsene.
Feh.
I had a “parsha” in my teen years, that followed me for a while, and kept me out of places / denied me of being considered for shidduchim I would have like to go to / should have been considered for.
Know how I beat it? By proving my critics wrong and overcoming the obstacles without their help (and in some cases, despite their best efforts to derail me).
True, it took a while, but in the end, I came out a winner.
So will you, Eclipse!
Whatever age you settle on, driving lessons are a must. And set limits for the first few years until they get some experience.
Rules by us are, no night time driving out of city limits, no driving past 1:00am and no answering cell phones while in motion (texting is an obvious no). And if you were not in bed by midnight, you cannot have the car the next day.
And no more than 4 people in the car at one time.
Oooh boy, can I relate. Our extended family get-togethers have a tendency of spiraling downwards once the “how accomplished my kids are” contest starts. Once that ball’s in play, its not too long before the critiques start flowing. We then spend the next hour or so trying to change the subject, but soon its a bolt for the door.
Sad, but pretty inevitable. Its not as bad when its limited to 2-3 families (host, plus 1-2 more) but in a huge crowd, its a lot harder to put out the fires
very funny!
Always and often. Especially when I can tell someone their child / spouse did something outstanding.
The minyan maariv I daven at had a group of 12 year olds coming for a few months, and I told each of the fathers (who, for whatever reason, did not daven at that minyan) how nice the kids interact with each other before and after davening.
In another instance, I told someone what a warm greeting his wife gave my wife (I said she greeted her like a sister), and how lucky he is to have a “bnei bayis” with such a simchas ha’chayim. (it was a very chassidish person, so I had to choose my words carefully).
3rd instance (and then I’ll stop) – I told someone, “now I know why you are zoiche to such erliche children (his kids are dolls). Why? Because I saw you duck outside (after olenu) to take / make a call on your cell phone.
In short, everyone I can praise, I do. You’d be surprised at how easy it becomes once you start living that mindset.
Mazel Tov, Tuna! From your previous posts, I thought you were already married. Welcome to the club!
“big Hasagos”
I did not see the article, but I don’t see where the OP said anything about Fla. Mid-winter break might be a Shabbaton or ice skating or skiing here in the NYC area.
If that family is talking about $300 weekend getaways, its doubtful they are seeking advice from the Yated