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And to the folks defending the train ride as a motive to save money or be realistic, there is a time and place for everything.
Few people save money better than I do. But dating (or in my case, going out for a special occasion dinner with Mrs BP) is not the time and place to be frugal.
Does it mean rent a rolls royce? No. Does it mean walk to the city in 2ft of snow? Also not.
Willi –
You did the right thing. For a 1st date, it should have been a car ride. Especially at night.
Oomis –
The NYC-3 train is a rental that runs for private $$$$ parties on Amtrak rails. Think the trains that the Vanderbilts and Carnegies would have ridden in.
You can google it, and see what it involves Sac was clearly kidding,(I hope!)and me being the NYC kid I am, had no reason to think of anything other than the #3 train.
If the next 40+ years ago as smooth and the past ones, I’ll be thrilled.
I have pretty realistic expectaions from life, so I’m pretty happy as things are now.
This is a bit of a challenge, becuase each of us have at different times, shown a different part of our personality, so putting together a picture is impossible.
Uusually, you see the person first, and then try “match” the personality traits as you discover them.
Still, if I had to pick,
Oomis = (becuase I know she’s a babby, and becuase she knows who Lois Lane is) brings to mind my mother. From the opinions and values, I’m inclined to say they even dress the same
Sac = because of her moxie, brings to mind one of my sisters. No linking of appearances though. My sis is Modern Flatbush thru and thru
“I was the girl in the story”
Ok, Willi. Aside from the water bottle and the fact that is was late at night (and if it were with a different date, if the 1st one is a goner)
would going by train at a normal time of day, on a 3r date (with advance notice) be acceptable?
But level with us Oomis.. when Sac said the NYC-3 train, did you think the MTA or the lux rail car?
I for one was totally blindsided. Totally.
“NYC-3 luxury train”
Oh. I googled that.
Ahem. Sorry.. I guess you’re not the medium-maintenece girl I pictured.
I now understand your “been there/done that” reference in a whole new light. You no doubt meant “I’ve already bought all the USW real estate I liked. No need to go back again. What other market can you suggest?”
I guess the devil is not the only one that wears Prada 😀
Funny you should mention MBD, because just yesterday, I was thinking about how, in his intro to “Refuge” Matisyahu talks about Dovid Ha’melech, and his relationship with the people of his day (and by extension, how he relates to us / us to him)
One line in particular stood out; “He loved the people and the people loved him.”
I don’t think the Avos are looking to hurt us. Not to say, we need to make t-shirts about them, but I think they’ll be happy to see us (as we will them)
Been there done that. Next.
Hmm.. # 3 does’nt have much else I can think of.
* Get off a 110th and walk thru Central Park? (makes sense.. at least its down hill from the north end)
* Take it to the last stop and walk to the Stadium?
* Switch for the # 2 and go to the Zoo?
Hey, ya’know; these are sounding pretty good! Maybe I should try some of these ideas on Mrs. BP!
“If the point of dating is to get married, putting on the ritz is a waste of time,”
That’s like saying, ” I serve my family on plastic plates, so the chasseneh meal should also be on disposables”
No. Special occasions should be treated as such. Are there exceptional cases? Is this case one of them? Maybe.
But as a rule, the 1st date (and possiblly 2nd one as well) should be FQ all the way.
(Ok, maybe not a dozen roses, but short of that, pull out all the stops)
Not everyone has a licsence, and a car.
No car? For $50, you can rent one. Zip car may be even less.
No License? Then you should have arrainged for a beshow (that’s a sit-in, for those of you who don’t know the term).
1st date needs to be taken seriously.
NYC-3 train? – to the UWS? Who’da thunk?
Just out of curiosity, Sac.. would you be ok going on a train date, if it were date # 3? 4? At any point? (Of course, it would need to be noted as a train date well in advance.)
There is no right or wrong answer; I’m just curious to see where you stand.
” We usually get haircuts from guys in yeshiva also.”
This, I can see (in fact, my boys’ haircuts are better than mine).
But manicures? This, I gotta verify. If this is the norm today, my kids would know about it.
I’m almost afraid to ask.. but I will.
Was your manicure done at the podiatrist? Not so terrible.
Was it done at a nail salon? That’s creepy. Feh.
I find it rather depressing that 99% of the posts so far, have been aimed at “looking for warning signs” in men.
Which leads me to the conclusion that women are to be trusted to be what they present themselves as, whereas men are to be regarded with suspicion.
Not that this feeling is unwarranted; most girls have proven themselves.. most boys have yet to do so.
We really need to do something about this perception.
“the potential for chilul Hashem.”
Sorry, Homeowner.. Try as I could, I did not see how this could have become a chilul hashem. Could you elaborate?
“would you still solicit a minyan onboard a non-El Al flight?”
I don’t fly that often, but if I heard right, no arilines allow groups to congregate on board.
But in the terminal? or in any other public place? Yeah, I’m the one who does the corraling. I don’t pressure anybody into joining, and I’m tactful about how I ask people, if their tribal membership is questionable.
And 9 out of 10 times, I daven for the amud in that siutation too.
I think its disrespectful. The young women just spent hours getting dressed to look her best; the least you can do it repay the effort by treating her in kind.
3rd date (if discussed in advance) can be (IMO, should be) by train. She’s dress accordingly, and all is well
1.Best Thread /Content = too many to pick from
2.Funniest Poster = Sac is hilarious
3.Least Controversial Poster = Blinky, hands down
4.Most Courteous Poster = 99% of the time, its all of us
5.MOST paitent MODERATOR = #42
6. Most informed poster = Wolf
The mod may let it slip by, and then once is starts the esclate, they go back and cut it out. For a minute or two, it appeared and then it was gone.
Oh well.. there’s always the next topic to sink my teeth into! (uh oh.. will that last line make it past the mods?….maybe its too violent?)
Homeowner –
The story took place 20+ years ago, and living in BP, I have’nt seen a college sweat in almost as long.
But you missed the point, regardless. Too bad… the story had a great lesson (and thanks, wolf!)
Oh no, Deiyezooger.. this time they were right. But, boy were they funny lines! Well worth the petch I got.
I was cutting the edge a little too thin. In hindsight, it was a good call. I thought it was funny, but I could see where the mods were coming from.
No matter. For the few minutes it was on the page, it brought a smile to the folks that saw it, so I let it go.
“They should not be condemned out of hand.”
I’m not condemning anyone.I’m just pointing out the side effects as I’ve seen them. Its like Chemo (r’l). If its needed, then so be it. But it comes with a side effect.
And Brisk –
The no touch rule should be pretty easy to enforce. But I still stand by what I said. If the nochrim are that hands-on to be a problem at the table, they most likley have their hands in other areas that they have no business being in. And I’m implying all the implications you think I mean (and Mods, please let this one thru. Its as important as warning parents / spouses about child abuse)
I almost a carbon copy.. only in real life, I’m taller
Yesterday and the day before, I was really getting on the Mods nerves, and they were zapping me at almost every turn.
Not to worry. I backed into my corner, icked my wounds and lived to post another day.
So far, so good!
No matter how many times this topic gets raised, I’m always glad to chime in.
The diet that works for us is really quite simple:
1) try to only eat food you make at home. And never skip breakfast!
2) if you must eat store bought food, try to avoid things with more than 5 ingredients
3) avoid hydrogenated anything!
4) portion size: divide your plate as follows: 50% salad, 25% main course, 25% side dish. desert should be the same size as your main course
5) Excercise. No, not the NYC marathon, and not the Ironman triathalon. Walking 2-3 miles (within 30-45 minutes)a day should do the trick for 90% of us
6) Remember, its the only body you have.. take care of it!
Dieting / maintaining your health is not a punishment….its a gift you give yourself.
No, I meant, I’m doomed.
Blinky? She can do no wrong….she just does’nt have it in her
“we get a bonus for each deleted post
double if it was posted by BPT”
At this week’s rate, you could wallpaper Buckingham Palace!
I could see coercing a girl into marrying a boy who is a year younger than her or an inch shorter, if all else (middos, hashkafa, ect) is in sync
But smoking? Or another vice? Never.
The guys may think they hold the cards, but when push comes to shove, the smart girls are the ones that did not compromise
Thanks MDG.. I’m glad to see I’m not alone on this one.
Let me share with you and the oilam an unrelated, but highly illustrative, story that puts this idea in perspective:
Sure enough, I did. An odd collection, mind you, but minyan fair and square.
However, in pulling off his sweatshirt, it was plain to see that college kid was not wearing tzitzis.
While tainted wine may be a nice thing to avoid, (IMHO), having a nocri running around the house is doing way more damage to the rucnius of the Yiddishe occupants than tainted wine could ever do.
I would…if she were insured for $5 millon, and I was marriing for the money.
But in my case, since I married for the purpose of living a healthy productive life with a spouse to match, the answer is no.
And if my son started smoking while in yeshiva (or married and on my payroll)… I’d cut of the funding in a NY minute.
Zero tolerance for this.
Schwecky is only the opening act, 80.
For the main event, BPT is gonna be dipped in a vat of boiling oil, while the recent posts he’s tried to ram thru get shoved down his throat.
Take that, BPT!
Different side of the same coin. If there’s a goyta milling around the house, there’s a problem.
I’ve seen enough to write a novel. I’d post some examples, but it would never make it past the mods.
Goyim are fine for the workplace. But in your own house? With your own kids? Bad news.
Oh, thats not a problem, becuase today, you could have seen BPT, blinked, and by the time you open your eyes, the Mods have made BPT disappear.
Talk about doomed!
If someone has non-jewish help milling around the house during the seudah, yayin nesech is the least of their concerns
My pleasure, Eclipse. I’ve been having a tough day with the Mods / Editors today, so I’m glad to see that my post made it thru (but wondering if THIS on will make it thru
No, they haven’t. But I’m not gonna break a lease, 1 year into it. Nor am I going to lease a 2nd car, just to please my newly minted BMGr.
So with only 1 year left on the minivan, we are moving to the next logical step. That, and linen tablecloths on the breakfast table.
“why waste a hundred bux if you may never see each other again”
Great attitude. No wonder we have a shidduch crisis.
Try this on for size: Treat (and spend on) each date like you’re going out with your wife-to-be. SHE IS NOT THERE TO PLAY GAMES. She is dating for the sole purpose of getting married, and should be treated as such.
If c’v it does not work out, the cost was a whole lot greater than a $100
I’m with Basyisroel (and the teacher) on this one. From some of the names of the nail polish thread, “edible” was no type-o.
Sad to say, ads from shaitle companies are only slightly different from ads in the secular hair-care industry.
They aim to sell a product, and use the most effective method known to mankind.
No, I don’t think its a type-o
Burnt to a crisp?
Perhaps. But I’m willing to bet that there will be a line of gedolim and rebbes zaides and babbis who will be waiting to greet the new arrivals and ask them, “how were you able to withstand the nisyonos you did, back there on earth”
No one denies the greatness of the previous generation. And the very fact that someone would create a thread like like, speaks volumes about our generation.
Did I make a wise-crack? Yes. Does that mean I’m disrespectful of our previous generation? Does that mean I’m unaware of the gap between us and them?
Not in my opinion. Humor (sarcastic or otherwise) is how some people deal with stressfull situations.
” A clown costume. “
I’d ask to sit next to you, but the flight attendants would have trouble telling us apart, so for their sake, I’ll go back into coach. On the return flight, if you want to swtitch, we’ll talk
When my lease is up, I’m aiming for an Accord (son’s gonna be dating soon, and a minivan won’t cut it)
I don’t see the problem. My mother is always saying her grandchildren are so delicous, she could eat them up!
Don’t go out to the ladder… its a trap!