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BSD “Supposedly?” Supposedly? Ask your rav if based on “supposedly” you can libel someone.
Wikipedia is your friend:
Libelous hoax email
An email saying that Hilfiger appeared on the Oprah Winfrey television show on “28 November” and made racist remarks, and calling for a boycott of Hilfiger’s merchandise, has circulated widely. It was first seen in 1996, seemed to disappear, but reappeared and was still in circulation as of 2011[update]. Winfrey made clear on her show and website in 1999 that Hilfiger had never appeared on her show until then, much less made the remarks attributed to him in the email; and Hilfiger paid investigators, who traced it to a college campus but could not identify the perpetrator. Allegations were reported to the Anti-Defamation League; they wrote to Hilfiger in 2001 “We have concluded that these rumors are completely false, and it is apparent that you never made the statements attributed to you, nor did you appear on The Oprah Winfrey Show”. Hilfiger appeared on the Winfrey show on 1 January 2006, where he and Winfrey repeated that he had not appeared before. Winfrey said about the email “You’re supposed to say, ‘That’s a big fat lie.'”
If you believe that listening to musical notes made by humans without instruments is assur, then, I suppose, you must go barefoot on Yom Kippur since, kal v’chomer, you shouldn’t wear canvas sneakers even though the prohibition is only on leather.
Either something is assur or muttar. Why make your own Halacha?
Question: If PBA, clearly a friend of the people running this board,(after all, he has the haskama of one of the moderators under his name) says something incorrect, can you correct him without getting kicked out? Let’s see
popa_bar_abba
Mod 80
[quoting]Alternate side parking is also illegal.[quoting]
No it isn’t. You are wrong. The DOT parking permit allows you to park in “No Parking” spots, without any condition that it be for a good reason.
So, PBA would want you to believe that an EMT has more parking privileges than a New York City commissioner who can only park on official business.
While you may like the idea, in your heart, does it make any sense to you?
Of course not, because it’s not correct.
Here’s what New York City law actually says on this subject.
d. Such parking permit shall only be used for the purpose of parking a specified emergency ambulance service vehicle where parking is prohibited by sign or rule, and only while such vehicle is on standby for use by a volunteer emergency medical technician to respond to medical emergencies.
That means the EMT must be either on a call or available for a call to park illegally, not as Hadassa described above, when he is not even at home and having the car used by his wife.
Check with the DOT to be sure; they give out the permits.
There is “off the derech” and then there is “off the rails.” LOL.
bpt, by no stretch of anyone’s imagination except your own do you have any right to speak on behalf of my shul, which I remind you once again is the Young Israel–Beth El of Borough Park.
Mods, again, I beg of you, lock and delete this thread.
We welcome fellow Jews who wish to fulfill the mitzvahs of davening and listening to kriyat hatorah, not those with ulterior motives who are on “reconnaissance missions.”
Enough already!
“calm down.” “Screaming.”
Ms. Critique, where is your real shul? I would like to know where they teach such chutzpah? You don’t know me so have some derech eretz. And while we’re at it, stay out of the men’s section.
bpt, despite the disclaimer under your name to the contrary, you are being extremely caustic here and it’s not appreciated. I don’t care where you daven. Just stay out of my shul and my life, please.
Anonymous, (How many people is this, anyway?) The question about Bobov was rhetorical because obviously the YWN would never allow criticism of a chasidish shul here. There should be no double standard.
For the person who started this thread as well as others, let me be clear, The Young Israel-Beth El of Borough Park is not Hefker.” We ARE makpid.
WE will decide what happens with our shul and we don’t need or desire your unsolicited advice, especially when you use our shul and contribute nothing.
While we’re on that subject, glad you like taking your yeshiva pictures on our front steps, especially since none of you has ever obtained permission to do so. May I assume that since you are doing so, if G-d forbid, one of your kids slips on the steps you will not sue us since you are trespassers?
By the way, who gave you the heter to use our property without permission?
Oh, and as to the genius advice to flood the shul with charedi dues-paying members, take it over and kick us out, there is a word in the secular world for such behavior which any rasha who proposes such action will surely be familiar with–RICO.
Mods, please close and delete this obnoxious thread.
bpt, you don’t know my shul or the people in it so why do you speak such authoritative loshon horah?
soliek, yes, I enjoyed the Chabad people lending a hand with the hakafot. They are definitely welcome.
Ms. Critique, on what planet are you living? Where did it come to you to start giving advice on how MY shul should or should not have meetings?
Moderators, YW Editor, why is this offensive thread allowed on here? Would you allow the same thing about Bobov???
I am a member of Young Israel–Beth El of Borough Park. (Please get the name straight.) I was one of Young Israel’s representatives on the committee that merged the two shuls.
Anonymous, if we need your advice, we’ll ask for it.
Foodie, you said, “If you don’t attend the shul on a regular basis it is not your call to make on how to change it.” Actually, if you are not a dues-paying member, you have no say.
For my own part, while I appreciate that people want to hear or chazzan, keep in mind, that WE are paying for him to sing. If you come to listen, especially if you take a seat, a little tzedakah wouldn’t hurt.
And by the way, especially, if you don’t like us or our style of davening, please don’t disrespect our shul. On Shemini Atzeret ma’ariv, to site a recent example, I was sitting alone, trying to concentrate on the davening but a shtreimel-clad man came in with his two children to, I guess, show them OUR shul. First, don’t do that in the middle of davening. Have the DECENCY to wait until the end. Also, please do not talk during your self-guided tour. You are disturbing my davening which is why I came to my shul.
Moderator, please stun me by allowing this to be posted.
Mod 80, Why would that be “unfortunate?” It allowed you to go to medical school and add one more frum doctor to the community.
Can I presume correctly that while in yeshiva, this was the explanation you gave to your rav?
Mod-80, You went to college?????
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<i>question for all the <b>brooklyners</b> out there- is s/o who does not live in brooklyn but does live in ny and not in like buffalo or like rochester but like 5 towns considered OOT? cuz i was talking to s/o from brkln and she was like- oh ur such an out of towner and i was like huh??? also it’s annoying when ppl refer to brkln as the city. MANHATTAN is the “city”, people. living in boro park doesnt mean u live in the city. Sorry, it just irks me.</i>
There should be a posted minimum age for using the Coffee Room, at the minimum to avoid silly text messages disguised as postings.
The world for people living in the borough of Brooklyn is “Brooklynites.”
Brooklyn has been part of the City of New York since 1898. You might wish to update your address book.
BPT, the mods took out ONE sentence from my post, why, I’m not sure except that it said nothing about you.
You said first, “I do not blame victims. And I’m also opposed to the use of the phrase ‘she asked for it’.”
Then you followed that with the conclusion, “In the workplace, trouble knocks on the doors that have someone home.”
These two statements contradict each other.
Mir ken learnen a bissel fun der Wall Street Journal. Regularly there are articles about outrageous workplace environment cases like the one involving the New York Knicks.
The reason these cases are successful is because in each case, the victim did nothing to provoke the sexual harassment.
I feel bad for OP. I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t.
Time to revisit the issue.
OP, a concerned young member of our kehilla, comes to this website looking for advice. She was upset because she left her job since “there were frum married guys that tried chatting me up.”
BPT, is chagrined at this story. But not because of the “frum married guys” acting inappropriately. Rather, BPT believes that our young poster is somehow responsible for the bad conduct, perhaps somehow having provoked it.
That sound right, so far?
So then, a few questions for BPT:
Do you blame victims in general or only frum girls?
What if “frum, married guys” work in an office with shiksas who are not obliged to follow the Jewish laws of dress? Can they “chat them up?”
Does the conduct of the victim excuse the conduct of men? What does your rav say? I presume he doesn’t say that if a frum single girl in your office doesn’t dress properly you are free to “chat her up” now does he?
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