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Congrads, and welcome. I really think Israel has this amazing power, but keeping what is there here is just a little bit harder. I deal with non frum teenagers, Some of them like working slowly, one shabbos I will not turn on the light, and when they feel that is no more a struggle they add on something else. I have other kids who will say “I want to keep shabbos,” and as much of a battle as it is they do it and I am proud to say they are keeping shabbos ever since. You should definately try out partners in torah, aish or Oorah, Living inspired is a good book, It depends what you want to learn about, about god, judiasm, or waht you should be doing now. please let me know what would interest you
Thank you for your concern I can only try, I do not pick up men only ladies or girls, but I guess maybe I should ask my parent what they think of it… It’s just so hard to just pass by these people waiting by the bus or just walking the streets in the cold…
intellegent- well being that our sages tell us “lifnei sayva takum” I aassume that they took that into consideration and yes, we must rise. Life is not always about fare or not, its about doing the right thing which in this situation would be getting up.
sounds interesting, I will try it on monday hopefully and let you know how it goes. If you find the recipe until then you can post more detials. thank you
illini07:
Although the Torah does say a womans place is in the home, Torah is more important than all so if it is possible that the husband can learn even if that means the wife will not be home it is worth it. And I do know families where the wife is working for just extra money, I know a couple, the husband opened a business for a his wife, it runs on a deficit but it is something to keep the wife busy and will probably be cheaper than her shopping all day. So every situation is different which is why the husband should have a rav he is close to to discuss such matters.
He has forgotten me as well 🙁 but I guess its one less means of being embarrest
so you just put like a cup of sugar on it? any liquid substance as well with it? and bake it for 9 minutes or so?
Marinated in what? I am interested to hear…
My mother buys it for me so I do not know the price of it, but I dont have time to make myself such a big lunch so salmon is perfect, just getting bored of the typical seasoning.
Thank you I can only try – you know what I will go ask a rav tonight if I am plain stupid and I will let you know, I just remember those high school days waiting at the bus stop and as the cars drove by I would think why can they just not stop, so I try to help others, but I will find out.
ilini07- I think she was not talking about kollel families but the typical ones where the husband works and the wife as well just to bring in more money. Rabbi Wallerstein spoke I think it was tisha b’av and he said how our parents were raised in much better homes because their mothers were home for them but in our days the mothers are at work as well, which does effect the family. So mother working can be the ideal but for circumstances that it cannot be done like if the husband is learning in kollel or they need money it is understandable.
20 In about a month, my teen days are almost up 🙁
Firstly about woman driving, I can understand as an extra chumra of tzinues that people may not do it, and I know woman personally who do not drive, and guess what they live and get around places. about chassidish men hitching rides, tonight in bp somone was walking around from car to car asking but when he got to mine and saw it was a girl he did not stop to ask. Also besides for giving rides to anyone that askes I go to public busses and give jewish people a ride home from there. U may think I am crazy but I feel if i want to do something good hashem will help.
everyone is writing about different salmon recipies, I eat salmon everyday for lunch and was wondering if u can share your recipe with me, so i can have some alterations. thanks
My name says it all (only if there is a specific thing I will post after hours but not usually)
It is true how computers are just taking over people. Booking online can even be easier than threw a travel agent so I never use them anymore. It is simple to put in the dates you want, and if you are not sure you can search for different days, click and purchase.
To make the salad a little more exiting you can add crispy beef form estihana it makes it nicer and really tasteful
Besides for it not being a problem becaues it is not derech chiba middos come before evertyhing.
no, they never did, they taught us appreciation for torah, showing how the whole world stands on torah, which is maybe why I am more open to it than people who have been told it their whole lives. I am expecting my parents to support and then we will take it from there. I do understand my standards will have to be lowered than what I am used to now and still willing to give up for something that is real
gemorah I do understand might be alittle weird, but I think it is very normal for a girl to say a little peice of torah she once heard. she should not hold back who she is for what he might think. The same way I would share something I heard with a friend why not a date? especially if this person is a potential person that will be rasiing your kids and having to build a BNB together
We do one big one, you get to pick one thing that you really want rather than little gifts that you will never use. Or I just get cash to choose what i wish
Our seminary teachers do not teach us that kollel is the only way to go, they show us something called emes. and I feel I WANT to marry someone learning because that is what HaShem wants not what people have told me. the more emuna you have the less hishtadlus you have to do, so If you truly believe HaShem will support he will. It says man should work for bread, they explain it either as they work on torah (learning) and HaShem will support, but if someone doesnt feel that is right for them they can work for bread. so you will get the same bread it just depends what you put your work into.
There was a sign last week saying that they will not be closing, although Eddie did tell a friend of mine that he is, so I dont know
I reall dont think mother know what they want anymore, because everyone wants someone skinny, but last night when I got a shidduch call I was able to tell the mother how skinny my friend was, she said how skinny, I said size two, she said well I heard she is a bone, so I had to convince the mother she looks healthy skinny. because people will never be happy, its too fat or too skinnny…maybe they are looking for size 4-8 now
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First of all I dont know how you can say you trust yourself if our reishonim tell us not to trust ourselves till the day we die. secondly there is something called extra geddarim, although a person may know they can trust themselves, extra fences around will not hurt. especially because chachomim say there is never enough fences for arayos.
after what avithedemon2 said I dont think I need to say anything more.
Luv2hack, adding onto thinking helps- Another way to make friends is by looking at groups that they have joined, o you went to camp x so did I so although u went ten years ago we can still be friends. U think u have something in common that you should be friends and the other person doesnt turn down your offer. and I have other friends who do not even allow their friends to see their friends. and others whose name wont even come up when you search it unlessyou are friends. so u can do bad things without anyone knowing.
I know, but i am saying there are all different types of girls there, although it is not co-ed her daughter can find children the same type.
thank you thinkinghelps, just adding on, I have friends who have “facebook friends” and in the street they wont say hi cuz they are only facebook friends, and Unfortunately some are friends they should not be having and they would not have had them if not for facebook.
I second I can Only Try, prospect has a great reputation, such a warm school. a wide range of girls so every girl can find her type of friends,and they are very willing to work with the kids.. a great school!
luv2hack…i did have facebook for a little in high school so I do know what it is about. I think that is called doing my homework, at least on my standards. and things may seem grey, but when it comes down to it they are either wrong or right, I feel bad for you that you are confused in the grey,and maybe one day you should only be lucky enough to have clarity like a first grader.
thinkinghelps…lol!! no wonder we are just natrually attracted to each other. I’m laughing to much!!
I am not understanding, you are agreeing that it is ok to ask a girl to be skinny for shidduchim? that it is a normal thing to ask for?
True, there are many advantages of facebook, because I once had it. I was able to keep in touch with people, and I do kiruv so it was great to talk to the kids. Like thinkinghelps rabbi Wallerstein is very against facebook, and that speech was all about it, but alot of his other speeches he brings it up to try to get people to know. people become obsest and spend all day on it. when I go to college, during computer class I walk past the room and there is usually 4-5 people people on it, it becomes your idle that you cannot control. but the other thing i think is wrong, everything in life is wrong or right, you are supposed to think if you see hashems reflection in your action, meaning some of my friends have facebook to do kiruv like i mentioned, which is a very good thing, but good things cannot come out of something bad so hashem would not be there with the person. you are suppposed to elevate the physical, facebook i think is just all nothingness, alot of it, and meeting new people for the kids is really not a good thing. i think creating a private blog is a great way of keeping up, which is what my seminary has, or just the traditional emailing.
I Agree with Yoshi, because the shidduch scene out there is putting down heavy girl, why should everyone here now put down skinny girls. In shidduchim the same way a girl can say no to a boy because he is too short, a boy has a right to a girl that is heavier than him, there are some rules in life that people will just accept even though it may not be nice. but I also dont feel everyone knocking skinny girls is right either. Some people are natrually skinny, others are not. If a boy is older maybe he can drop asking for a size 2, but if a young boy is just starting, same as a girl just starting, she has a right to ask for taller boy, as he does for a skinny girl.
ya there a guy i think by the man of norm on kings highway and like east 8th, theres also on top of garden of eaten on ave j and east 15, if you want i can try to get their numbers for you
can someone explain to me the whole thing about kids not being accepted. If a kid is applying for high school and is not a good kid i understand, but were also talking about elementary school and really great kids and families. what is it that there is new fad not to accept kids?
I’m in for it in Flatbush if that helps…
I unfortuanately can say I am one of those teens who just fell into the trap of texing beign so simple, but now it is so much harder to work on having normal relationships with my friends again. but there are goods like i became friends with people i would never have.
wow I feel so bad for you teenager for everytime you go on you have to answer so many posts. I do think there is something we can do about it, but it would have to be with the approval of a rav, and no rav would approve (understandably so) co-ed hangouts. But being that we are both teens maybe we can think of ideas to change some things. and S is the third letter of your name I?
I agree with intellegent we cannot go about doing something wrong to achieve something good, especially making children think that doing what they are doing is ok, which it is not.
I do think separate hangouts is a good idea, but I am just not sure if it would work, like why would a kid want to hang out with girls if she can be with guys as well. maybe we can find a reason they would want to.
I would definately be willling to help think of ideas in where we can “reinject” love of judiasm into kids, or at least for the ones growing up maybe change something. one thing i felt that make kids do things by rote was the system in being taught, teachers teach for kids to memorize and get a good mark on the test, so the kid puts in their head they just have to memorize for the test and after that they can forget everything. so for these kids history is the same thing as historia, as chumash is to math, nothing more than just memorizing for the tests. I am not throwing the burden on the teachers but they must connnect the lessons to the kids life and give them practical ways to apply it. I think i reestablished that love in seminary, not only from the classes but from being in Israel, the land just changeds people. I really feel such a love for it and feel terrible for kids who are a point where i once was, knowing how painful and depressing it is.
I also wanted to say I do have a friend who her and her boyfriend are shomar, but thats becuase they only hang out together and not in groups of kids so no other boys can touch her. but maybe there is some way we can alter this system to work?
I do understnad what is out there like I said I am a teen just like you. but mixing good and bad is definatly not a good thing. I have friends that look like by girls on the outside but do terrible things. They know that they are doing something wrong, my friend would say I am going out now to do something bad, and she will admit she knows its bad and not for a second think that she is doing something good, but by doing this kids might think that they are doing something good cuz they are going to this mixed party instead of a different one when in reality this one is no better. What you said about what turned you off you should just know is the majority of kids doing judiasm by rote, there is a loss for love of Juadiam which is a major problem in our days.
teenager, me being one as well we do understand what you are talking about, the problem out there and hte need need for kids to get out. but by doing this like someone said it is mixing bad with good which is bad. you have to see if hashem would be smiling at your action, kiruv activities he definately would be, but this he would not be. it is mixing bad with good, bad is bad good is good and when the teen comes to that hopefully they will help themselves
I do not feel that this is the reason for rising anorexia in the frum community, from seeing my friends it is more psycological then that. I also wish boys would just know what a size 2 is before they ask for it. But I do feel the same way the girls have a right to ask for a boy who is not short, boys have a right to ask for a girl who is not fat. I love how people think they can come up with the reason for the shidduch crisis. Do you want to start running the world while your at it?
I just heard a nice story that might help you:
There was a father with his daughter and son on a boat, the boat turned over and they were all stuck in the ocean. The father took a child in each of his arms and just swam, they did not sea land so they just kept swimming. At a point the father realized there was no way he would be able to make it with both of his children because he would just faint and they would all die, he knew the halacha was that he has to save his ons so he told his daughter he would have to leave her behind. He left her, and she kept yelling, screaming and crying. The father could not deal hearing his child in such pain so he went back and picked her up again, made it to shore, and they all fainted because they had no energy left. When they woke up the daughter asked her father how he did that. He said I could not handle hearing your pains I just had to get you.
Hashem carries all our sins, at point he feels like he cant hold all our avayros anymore, but if we daven, we cry out to help, scream, we need HaShems help, he will not be able to hear his children in such pain so he will come to our aid. Hope this helps
My family is not going for the first year in a while, please enjoy it, it is the most beautiful thing. really take in every moment and possibility, take in the kosel, and because of shmittah just be extra cautious with kashrus…enjoy
I am a teenager and am I am well aware of what is going on, but I do not think this is a solution. jphone, I am sorry to say kids feel a need to hang out, or in better words get out-not necesaraly doing something wrong but they just like getting out. Rabbi Wallerstein has been very succesfull in his separate bowling allys in the country or other things he does. I know people who on the inside have totally left yiddishkiet, but did not come to leaving the outside, so they stay with their bais yaakov appearance, some may think that is good while others will disagree, Although because on the outside people might not lable them as off the derech and help them, they will as I have been so many of my friends get help in other ways, it is just a matter of time. One thing I would say is always be there for your friends, whatever it is.
Are you complaining or just stating? Because as you might already know i am “bored@work” as well. It is pretty quite now. So I am wondering if you enjoy or dont like the peacefull boredom in the office.
Yes there is a big problem, but there are things that are being done to take care of it. The problem is not enough, because in flatbush people take care of their box of life and thats it, They know that their is a problem, because if other people are doing something about it.