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is your math counting all of the divorced men, widowed men, and ba’alei teshuvah?
there are many, many reasons why girls are not married (as well as why boys are not married), and i feel az is addressing probably one of the most insignificant ones. However, if it gets people to think about the single girls and set them up, then at least it is doing some good. Yes, all of the gedolim care about the plight of the tons of single boys and girls, it’s the method of fixing the problem that they may or may not agree upon.
kapusta – lol (ok. well rather sol – 🙂 out loud).
that was very funny.
real brisker – i was getting ready to start a petition to get your name changed, but then i saw that the deed was already done (kind of).
i can just imagine what the cr will look like one day. 1/2 of the posters will have joseph under their screen names, and the other 1/2 will have some variation of not joseph, claims to not be joseph, etc.
we can say that, but it may or may not be true.
health – why must a read every post before i decide to post? true, i may write something that has nothing to do with anything, so i’d look like a fool – but where did you hear that it’s forbidden to do so? from a friend? did you learn this in school? 😉
rednails – that is sick, sick, sick.
Btw, where did you hear this -from your husband, your friends or did you learn this in school?
okay. maybe i deserve this sarcastic comment – i didn’t learn it in a gemara. a 40 year old woman i know had asked a shaila (of some rav, i don’t know whom). anyways, i’ve always learned that it’s the guy who is supposed to look for the wife, as it’s not the way of the world for women to go pursuing men.
anyways, i did not have 80 guys lined up at one time – i was just like all the other posters here.
of course, both men and women should periodically re-evaluate what they are looking for and decide which areas may or may not be so important to them.
nowadays, when every few years is practically a new generation, a 15 year age gap is no small deal. No matter what age, most women i know are looking for companionship, that they feel comfortable with.
although many girls are desperate to get married, that doesn’t mean that they are desperate – they do want to be happily married. many would rather marry a previously divorced guy, someone from a different background than they previously were looking for, etc. before considering a huge age-gap.
real-brisker – i don’t know if you saw my earlier post, but maybe it’s revenge.
veteran – thanks! that actually made sense to me.
mention it in a nice way to one of their ravs – kind of like asking advice how you should proceed, and hopefully they’ll do the dirty work.
wolf – sounds like these people should know. from my understanding, it’s a pretty serious thing to not pay the shadchan anything.
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Hope this helps.
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thanks, now it’s perfectly clear to me.
Mathematicians use radians instead of degrees as a way of further alienating the non-mathematical population.
LOL!
icot – cool way of figuring out what squeak wrote. good for you. serves them right to think of writing a private message to each other, thinking that us mere mortals wouldn’t understand.
thanks for representing us mortals! ?
okay dr. pepper, which means i have no clue what you’re saying. what’s a transcedental function?
i think i should just retreat quietly. seems like my question is like that a 4 year year old might be asking on the gemara when he only knows the aleph, beis.
when i clicked on, what you said to click on – it came to something about pi, and the number kept getting closer and closer to the numerical value of pi. now my brain has no clue what pi is, but it has been programmed to think at the mention of pi – 3.14, 2pir, and pi r squared and circle. so first question that comes to my brain is what does pencils falling on a table have to do with pi.
i’ve never heard of the formula you mentioned, and only math equation i remember is a squared plus b squared is equal to c squared.
so, i guess my question is not answerable in plain english (without numbers) given the lack of knowledge i have.
unless, your answer is that for some reason that can’t be explained (due to my limited knowledge of math) pi is a number that comes up a lot in mathematical formulas. ?
but the girls aren’t like Rus either were e/o wants them or they would be married by 22!
EXCUSE ME?!?!?
i didn’t read everything; i don’t have time right now, so maybe i’m taking this out of context – if i am, i’m sorry.
but, what are you talking about???? so happens that i dated almost 80 guys before i got married (most i should have never gone out with – my parents and i didn’t know how to do proper research in those days) and only 3 of those who i was willing to date again, said no to me, and out of that 3, 2 later wanted to go out with me a few years later. the 1 who didn’t want to go out again was going into business, and i stupidly (but honestly) said, “why would someone want to go into business – from what i understand, most people are dishonest in business”. understandably, he didn’t want to go out again.
i know many people who got married after 22 and married the person who was just right for them. i do know people who married someone 10 years older, some of the girls were 20 and some were 30, but in general, most people prefer to marry someone closer to their age – they have more in common and can understand each other better.
also, a woman, from my understanding, does NOT have a chiyuv to get married. if anything, it would solve more problems if guys would be willing to date girls a year or 2 older than them than if girls would marry a guy 10 years older. (i do know many girls who were older who did marry guys who were a bit younger than they were).
health, be reasonable. the girls also want to be happy and to find the things that they are looking for. just because they are older than 22 when they get married does not mean that they will not be able to have a nice-size family and find their equal in a husband.
if this has nothing to do with what you were saying, then just disregard this.
oh wow, thanks. actually, i have been trying to wean myself from the cr, but still have been posting here and there.
thanks kapusta – i truly didn’t think anyone noticed or cared. that was very sweet.
and yw mod. 42 is partially right – my baby, which was my excuse for being here, is getting older, so she eats less and for shorter amount of times, so usually i just skim a few things that catch my eyes, every few days or so.
but, thank you very much kapusta and observanteen for noticing and for the kind words. 🙂
real brisker – maybe they’re just taking revenge – remember you accused the yn editor of being joseph?
if it makes a difference, i also vote that you’re NOT joseph or pacman or clairvoyant or grandmaster or….
i try to learn chovos halevavos.
but, i’d like to be on the level of aries and think about Hashem most of the time and have those pesukim in my mind all of the time.
Dr. Pepper – i don’t know if it’s possible, but can you explain in plain english what your riddle has to do with pi? i thought pi had something to do with a circle?
i took calculus in highschool, but unfortunately, it was such a joke class – i didn’t learn a thing. the teacher also taught at a community college and allowed us to take the tests the same way he allowed them, which was open-notes.
so, we wrote down the formulas he taught us, and then for the tests, we just plugged in the numbers that were on the exam question. Besides, remembering that calculus has something to do with building bridges, i did not learn a thing.
mother in israel: thanks for the correction. i didn’t even notice the “e” there. i think i was trying to get the whole line without an e, but i goofed. ?
but, at least flowers saw what i meant.
try writing without an “e” – it’s not so easy.
charlie – is it just that we’re generally more educated today?
but, anyways, how do those quickie on-line ones compare to the real IQ test? anyone know?
i think i know it too – so do i guess or let others also guess.
i’ll try to write a sentence that is similar.
this is kind of hard to do, but i think i did it. am i correct?
how off are those IQ online tests? i took the first one that i googled that said fast and accurate. it was fast, but don’t think it was very accurate – gave me an IQ of 150. (my real IQ, i’m sure is lower, not higher, in case anyone was wondering. ? ) anyone who really knows their IQ, can you tell me by how off these tests are?
haifagirl – i find that people who do not come from the most yeshivish world may actually be more sensitive to certain tznius issues and other issues because some of the more charedi women do not really realize how guys and other people think. Because of their innocence they may do and/or wear things that are not truly proper. we, who may know and understand the dangers of what they are wearing and/or doing may be more sensitive.
Does this make any sense?
if you’ve ever read Pride and Prejudice, you’ll know what i mean; but i went out with a guy who was exactly like Mr. Collins. (i think that’s the name.) can’t describe him better than that. he was totally pompous, practically proposed to me on our 1st and only date, sang to me in the middle of a hotel in loud voice, bragged non-stop about his wealth and couldn’t even imagine that i would insist on going through the shadchan after the 1st date instead of deciding right then and there when we’d be going out next. (why bother the shadchan, is what he said).
rescue, how sad.
so, wolf, who is that you want to kill?
sister bear – that’s a great book, especially if you have a child with sensory issues.
lil b – i know a kid who was rewarded by his rebbe for being good in class and was taken with some other kids to kever rochel, the kotel, and tunnel tours one evening/night. another kid was taken during a lunch break with few others to the kever of dan to say some tehillim and then return to class.
i’ve never heard of such field trips in america.
oh, and even if you’re working in secular place: i know of someone who worked in a completely secular hospital in a totally secular city, but during pesach the guards would ask everyone as they would enter if they have chametz in their bags.
on pesach and succos, kotel area is filled with people, and not just tourists.
every 4 steps you walk in israel is a mitzvah – can’t say the same for anywhere in America.
agree with pac-man – he’s right (IF kid is not demanding money from wife’s parents or his own, or if he’s not demanding his wife to support him)
health – my point was that in this way i don’t think people in those days were much different than we are (except that a woman wouldn’t divorce so easily, even if she was miserable)- that’s the gadlus of boaz and rus; they did the right thing even though people would talk.
wow, boruch Hashem you’re all okay.
i actually thought the thread was about, why would someone want to be a tzadekes kike rus. she became very poor, had to pick her own wheat, take care of her mother-in-law, and married an 80 year old guy who died that same night, and was considered an outcast, as she was a giyores from moav!?!
not an easy life.
I’m much more interested in how he drives than in what he drives.
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zeeskite: lol!
health – actually, that’s why ploni almoni didn’t want to marry rus. he said that he wasn’t big enough to marry a moavit, even if it is muttar – they’ll be too much talk. Boaz was great enough to ignore the talk.
point is, pickiness is in the ears of the beholder.
another time, when i was 24, before i was smart enough to do real research of the guys, i went out with this very funny guy. when i told the shadchan no and explained why not. she told me that at the age of 24 i was way too old to be so picky and not to continue dating a self-declared, truly modern-orthodox guy. i forgot all the “kind” words this shadchan told me, but i have since repressed them deep into my psyche or else i just tuned out while she was lecturing me.
the guy didn’t have a kosher phone either, but that was before kosher phones. 🙂
when i was 23 years old, single, never formerly married, someone set me up with a guy who i refused to go out with. he was supposed to be a great guy. the example of how wonderful this guy was, was that he changes his own baby’s diapers.
health- don’t know if you meant to be funny, but LOL!
b’shaa tova SJS!
mother in israel: lol!
i think it’s pikuach nefesh for the kids if the mothers get their sleep. 😉
oomis and husband: mazal tov!
pba: happy birthday!
icot: that’s an amazing-looking cake!
i’m a fan of all the mods and also the yn editor.
i find them all to be intelligent and entertaining.
thank you for your work!
why would it be appropriate for a 5 year old to be reading any adult newspaper? sometimes, we adults need info. and news that we do not want our children to hear. so, i will bring magazines into my house that my kids are not capable of reading and should not be reading because they are appropriate for me.
anyways, unfortunately, my kids always hear ghastly details and news from their friends.
oh, and pba, thanks for giving your profile as an example; it was very revealing and informative. 😉
okay. just realized how to change my profile.
one thing people definitely know is that i’m not a 9 year old. any 9 year old in today’s day and age would be much more computer savvy than i am. 🙁
also, i’m obviously not a computer programmer, at least not a very good one. 😉
oomis and daas yochid – gotta agree with you.
but pba – do they open the door for the girl?
real-brisker – i didn’t even notice that he did that.
Pac-Man
Joseph
I never thought of that idea brisker.
lol!!!!!!!!
that was VERY funny! 🙂