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am i the only one who fell for pba’s trick?
no. i did not believe there was time travel involved – but i thought there might be some interesting article.
though it was very cool what happened instead. 🙂
we do a Pesach spring cleaning… 1 bedroom finished today. B’H! 🙂
yay!
There is no chometz on the walls and ceilings and not even in the curtains. Leave spring cleaning and welcome Pesach happily</em?
lol! what i meant by spring cleaning was organizing, putting toys in right containers, matching socks, all those stuff that should be done year round, but Boruch Hashem, can never find the time to do so.
walls? never! only when colored on by little fingers; then little fingers clean the walls. 🙂
help!!!! i’ve tried editing a bunch of times, and the bottom of what (from “lol to walls”) i wrote keeps going in italics – an em that i never wrote keeps showing up even after its deleted. anyone knows whats going on?
Zk: hang in there. you’ve still got 3 weeks to go. 🙂
Yossi: haven’t seen you post lately – maybe you’ve been on other threads – was wondering where you were.
always here – glad to see you’re back! i even posted a thread just for you! 🙂
thanks haifagirl. (was thinking about some time in the summer) 🙂
haifagirl – i know this has nothing to do with chicago, but what’s the science museum in haifa like?
always here – you’ve got to be kidding to take him seriously when he talks like that. just call him “grandma” like s2021 does when he gets in that mode. nobody, and i mean nobody else agrees with him. i’ve been to a very, very frum wedding where they did the mazinka dance.
i think someone has to put a stop to grandma saying things like that – in an authorative tone of voice that certain people are reshaim or goyim or whatever.
please, please, don’t leave because of him.
maybe, we need Dr. middos for him.
middos alert! middos alert!
and how can i feel your aches if you’re not here? 🙂
i once said good shabbos to a stranger – older woman. she looked at me and asked, “do i know you?” i said no. she gave me this big smile and said good shabbos.
eclipse – sounds like you and your daughter are doing a great job.
is there someplace for your daughter to get support from others who’ve successfully returned?
may your daughter and all of klal yisraoel continue to grow and only see yeshuos!
I didn’t nominate you because there’s a residency requirement
that didn’t stop obama.
okay. okay. sorry.
yay! good going! fantastic!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 :), etc.
tons of smiles for you.
thanks for sharing that with us.
what used to help me was to just put all info. into a good order and then just write down – even copying verbatum. later, i would fix it all up, put it in my words, etc. thing to do, is just start writing – doesn’t matter what. (I used to like to start with a good quote, and then take it from there.)
good luck!
you’re right haifagirl – never been to san francisco. (but, i’ve been to the chicago one many times).
you’re also right about anyone not living in yerushalayim is living “out-of-town”.
always here: i know – it’s just after reading such serious, painful threads, i needed to be a little silly. 🙂
(my heart truly aches for what all you went through/ are going through).
well….it is called the “Windy City”
sorry pashutah yid – at least we kept this thread going, until you got some real answers. 😉
i thought this is one of the questions that you don’t ask people – too personal. can’t believe mods let it go through. 😉
oy!!!
where did this happen?
oh, eclipse, i just got the poppa “bear”.
lol! sorry, but you are quite funny, even when you meant to be quite serious. i guess this is what they mean by “operation humor”.
Can I mention now that the first time I saw this thread title I thought it was talking about me?
lol, Popa~ me, too.
ummm….me 3. 🙂
no, no, and no (at least i’m consistent)
I thought this was going to be about getting a license to be a parent.
…which would not be a bad idea. 🙂
pba: are you saying that the parent/teacher getting upset that kid didn’t respect them is due to bad middos and not l’shem shamayim?
if so, of course.
but if, you’re arguing, that kid does not have to have respect to parents, etc. – i disagree.
(though i don’t believe respect necessarily means doing everything an adult says; the way some adults use it. kids do, at times, have a right to say “no”. i.e.they do not have to choose to help their parents every single time when asked.
i wouldn’t call that “lack of respect”; just that child is using their bechira to decide that they don’t feel like helping right now. parent can decide how to get kid’s help, but it’s not lack of kavod for child to refuse UNLESS they do so in disrespectful way (calling parents not nice names,etc.)
and, yeah, if they are chutzpadik, that is a “bein adom l’makom” problem; but, parents do have responsibility to teach children both “bein adom l’makom” and “bein adom l’chaveiro”.
anyone, want to tell us the story in brief?
some mothers would be very upset if their kids do not come – can’t make any blanket rule about things like this.
the best science museum is there – so if it’s a matter of going to chicago – it’s worth it just for that; but don’t go if you’re a cohen (to the museum, i mean; but can still go to chicago). 😉
farrockgrandma: lol!
nice comic relief.
wow! eclipse sounds like you have a lot thrown on your plate at once.
hey! the italics thing worked. Cool! 🙂
ok i’m gonna try this italicized thing.
oy! I don’t wanna havta choose one & make the person(s) I didn’t choose feel bad… secret ballot, please?! 😉
me too – i’ll vote for all the people not chosen.
eclipse – just want to add my support. i’m so sorry that it’s so hard. i admire your strength, optimism, and love. may Hashem give you yeshuos very, very soon!
i’ll also vote for oomis (i know, i know – you’ve already narrowed it down to 3, but…) – she once on one thread said i said something well. And flattery gets you everywhere in my books – it’s even better than chocolate. and that’s saying a lot.
truthfully, i think mod. 80 got the most votes already; i think he already acts like the mayor. though that’s also not fair to all those hidden tzadikkim (i mean mods) we have around here. 🙂
aries – you’re right, and we should stop now, but, i just have to put my 2 cents in.
i’ll go to a hotel – sounds like fun! anyone want to sponsor the trip?
i wish for all klal yisrael that the only people who go away to these hotels are those who are going because they want to and have the money to do so, and not because of any unfortunate circumstances.
AJE – refuah shelaimah!
haleivi: “ZK, You can be from the bored members.”
lol!
actually, the question should be: “do you eat between purim and pesach?” it would make my life much easier if my husband would have such a minhag.
one frazzled ema 😉
actually, always here, i was going to nominate you. you always seem nice, and, well, you’re “always here”. 😉
“martcookie~ I KNEW you were gonna go nuts when you saw that new poster’s name!!! (‘smartlittlecookie’)… “
me too. 🙂
i guess everyone likes your name, smartcookie. maybe you should make a list of other good user names they can choose from – creativity is a gift that apparently not everyone has. 😉
health: i know that many people do get help, but my point was that there still are people in this world that don’t – their wives work, and when it gets too hard, they may move to out-of-town kollel community where they can get paid for their learning, and eventually do kiruv, be a rebbe, rav, etc. parents may help out a little for brisses, simchas, medical issues, etc.
this may or may not be the norm, but it definitely exists.
well, like, i don’t know, if it goes away, you know what i mean, well, whatever….
s2021: “In coffeeroom its kinda like conflict,resolve conflict, happy ending, dredge up same conflict…”
lol!!! you’re right 🙂
someone once went to a gadol and complained that his child was constantly transgressing kibbud av v’em. the gadol said that the man was transgressing putting an obstacle before a blind man – why was he demanding so many things from his child?
to have wisdom; after i get the wisdom, i’ll let you know what my other 2 wishes are.
s2021 – i agree with you about importance of acknowledging your feelings, but i disagree with you about the chocolate ice cream. chocolate itself is amazing or vanilla ice cream with the caramel topping, but i personally would skip the chocolate ice cream. though i understand that you might view things somewhat differently than me.
p.s. this would have been a perfect thread if it ended right after s2021 and smartcookie made up. sorry, but i like books with happy endings, but i guess this thread is more like real life.
happy ending…conflict…resolve conflict….happy ending….new conflict… oh well.
i will repeat what others have said – i too know many people in lakewood who not only didn’t demand a down payment, but they didn’t demand any money from their parents and/or in-laws. some got some money and some didn’t.
and for those who say college is leading somewhere and learning in kollel isn’t. i don’t know, but most people i know who’ve learned in kollel, end up having jobs in which there learning was in preparation for – such as being rabbeim, ravs of communities, mashgiachim, or even “just” to be a talmid chochom who is also an accountant, computer programmer, etc.