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April 22, 2013 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947955big dealParticipant
In calif. We have too many laws thats why such high murder rates . The rest of us have too few. We need just the right balance. What a joke. There is no such thing. Not in real life, not in a whole country and certainly not with thegovernment.
I can just picture the scenario: background checks dont permit me to own a gun because i once had a run in with my neighbor. You wont be permitted because you suffered slight post partem depression and a third guy because he was involved in a bitter divorce and wife filed all kinds of crazy charges. The blacks and the radical muslims will have no problem getting cleared because otherwise theyll yell racial profiling – “why do we have the least amount of registered ownership.”
Also most mass shooters showed that there was alot of planning beforehand. If theywouldnt be able to get their hands on a gun then theyd figure out how to use a bomb or some other mass casualty device.- no big deal
I would agree that the suicide rate would probably drop although i did not check into that. It takes a lot more courage to willfully torture oneself in a slow painful death than to die a quick death from a single shot.
April 22, 2013 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947953big dealParticipantIt really does not make a difference how you define it. It makes a difference in how you report it. The bombers had illegal guns and most inner city crimes involve illegal guns and your not going to change that with more background checks. As a matter of fact, the bomber last week wouldnt have made the list and, i suspect, as most things involving government, most likely the wrong people would not be stopped.
You trust goverment too much.
April 22, 2013 3:16 am at 3:16 am in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042533big dealParticipantNot necessarily. Unless she usually dresses extremely not tznius like skirt way above knee.
April 22, 2013 2:55 am at 2:55 am in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146899big dealParticipantIve heard the same thing happen to kids on baby formula. For instance reg milk based similac and the chalav yisroel one
April 22, 2013 2:35 am at 2:35 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947951big dealParticipantI did not say that anyone is over or under reporting. All i said was that each country has their own way of classifying crime. I might call it a hate crime or terrorism and you might call it homicide. I might be fine with abortion and you might call it feticide and include it in your homicide rates. These are just examples.
That said i just researched california again to see where your getting your info from and i realized that different sites report it differently. So lets go with yours for now. Strictest gun laws and their number 17 out of 50. You need to do better than that .
I still stand by my original position that the current law (that was on the floor last week) would do nothing to touch the murder rates but would just make a big show for nothing.
April 22, 2013 1:24 am at 1:24 am in reply to: How to answer questions regarding a shidduch #1042531big dealParticipantI think that if they asked the question then it does matter to them. Also if she dresses a certain way wouldnt the boy notice when they went out. This is a chitzonios question which the boy could judge himself why do you have to answer that?
April 22, 2013 12:57 am at 12:57 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947949big dealParticipantLets try again:
Every country classifies each crime in a different way. They call them other things.
A list compiled by the un is only COMPILED by the un not classified. It means that the nations are self reporting crimes in the way they themselves classified it to the un. There is no oversight.
Again if you were to run a true study you would take a place as close in culture, laws, geography as us as possible to see how things would work out if we did things the way others are suggesting. California has pretty tight gun control laws and they have the highest homicide rate and one of the highest gun homicide rate in the country. These crimes are all reported by the fbi using the same standards and classifications throughout all the states (besides for two). Thats called a fair study.
A small historical point: A duel, where you had two opponents shooting at each other, was a fairly common way of settling major disputes in the early days. Theres no hint of militias there. (I would not want to see a comeback of this practice. This is not what im defending.)
April 21, 2013 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm in reply to: All Children Who Leave Our Community Should Pain Us Equally #947427big dealParticipantSorry about the rant. Its something i feel very strongly about.
April 21, 2013 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm in reply to: All Children Who Leave Our Community Should Pain Us Equally #947426big dealParticipantOur common purpose is to serve hashem. What better way to do that than to take his perfect creations and utilize their brains, talent and emotions toward establishing a beatiful harmonios environment for the shechina to dwell. Why are we so bent on taking these special gifts rhat were given to us and melting them down to mold them into something that they are not?
Sometimes i have this sad thought. After the holocoust when people came to america and they were starting up yeshivos and schools they were practically begging for students . They werent starting up one for every type of crowd either. There were unfortunately not enough students to enroll. Survivors worked very hard to set these up because these children were viewed as the continuation of klal yisrael. They needed every single soul. Now it sounds like we are telling hashem that, please we have too many now. We dont need the ones that do a,b,c, differently than us, its going to ruin our image.
April 21, 2013 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm in reply to: All Children Who Leave Our Community Should Pain Us Equally #947425big dealParticipantTlik: you are a very good advocate for these boys. But may i add that the problems run much deeper than that. I believe its a community problem where most of our yeshivos and schools belong to a mosdos or communal group that want their students and later their parentbody/ community to have a certain mehus and mehalech. These are future representatives of said mosdos.
Another thing is that by taking away individuality they have more control over their community and everyone follows whatever goes on blindly. Because thats how they were trained from young. I tkink that it is usually the kid that has problems conforming to the mold that run the risk of being different.
When we as a community realize that hashem created us as individuals to serve a common purpose that is when we will be able to be secure in the knowledge that we are not turning anyone away.
April 21, 2013 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947947big dealParticipantIm saying i dont know if homicide is greater in the us. The abortion was just an example with many more crimes being classified any which way. Do the research.
Im not sure about gun homicide i havent looked at that yet but it would make sense if they were far more available in the us and it is.
My point is that if someone wants to kill they will despite the facts they dont have guns. Im talking homicides not gun homicides.
April 21, 2013 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947946big dealParticipantIf you want an accurate study you need to go to an area where all crime is classified by the same group on the same standards.
The united states for example. California has the strictest gun control laws and the highest homicide rate and a pretty high gun homicide rate. They also have the dirtiest culture.
Besides all these technical points. If you want to write anither law just make sure it will make a difference not just clog up the airwaves about nothing. Come up with something decent without t
aking away my 2nd ammendment.
April 21, 2013 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947944big dealParticipantI saw those numbers and actually wikipedia, which quotes those numbers, informed me of what i stated above. In addition the point made is that each country independently reports their homicide rates.
Its like asking each country to independently report their nuclear activity. Surely iraq will come up with zero activity.
April 21, 2013 5:00 am at 5:00 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947941big dealParticipantI dont know about those numbers. They come from each countries own records and what they consider homicides.
For instance if they dont consider late term abortions homicide then they wont record it as such. If we do then we will dutifully record it as a homicide.
April 21, 2013 3:02 am at 3:02 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947938big dealParticipantI cant believe we are even having this conversation after the events of the last few days. People that intend to kill will do just that. Its fairly easy if one is determined even without guns. What about the madrid bombings? How about Norway where even the police arent armed – bomb plus guns.
About the culture thing. Natural human reaction to a grisly scene is major disgust and not a whole lot of tolerance. A person can only muster courage to cause so much carnage and blood if he is desensitized to it or if it were glorified in his culture.
April 19, 2013 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947932big dealParticipantWhen they wanted to stop the smoking. They got rid of all the billboards glorifying smoking, they put out ads about how dangerous smoking is and most of all they put on a hefty tax onto a cigarette. By doing all tge above they basically made people very sensitive to smoking.
I know its not exactly the same but try to compare it to our culture for a second. Get rid of violent movies and video games. Teach good will to others no self servingv society and put a hefty tax on weapons – wont be available so easily.
I know this sounds very extreme but the truth is that if we dont solve the core of the problem the problem will manifest itself ifvnot in this way then in others.
April 19, 2013 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947930big dealParticipantIcot: The point is that if its available it would be fairly easy to get your hands on it. How many illeagal guns are there? How many are in other persons possession? Writing new laws is only a show. It wont do anything to stop the crime.
I think that the problem is the culture. How you can get it to change is anyones guess.
About the drunk driving thing: Yes, its terrible and yes you get the entire book thrown at you. But look at how many drunk drivers are still out there.
April 19, 2013 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947913big dealParticipantAdam lanza used his mothers gun. A background check wouldnt have helped. Not sure about the others.
I agree that there is too much violence but adding more inconveniences (that dont do much) to law abiding citizens just doesnt make sense.
April 19, 2013 2:16 am at 2:16 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947904big dealParticipantPersonally, I thought it was done at an inopportune time when the entire nation was focused on the Boston bombings.
I also think its crazy. Are they going to do background checks on anybody wanting to purchase a pressure cooker?
People could cause extensive carnage with basic supplies. There is tons of info available on how to create the most efficient bomb and your going after guns?
big dealParticipantThere is no comparison between Tzahal and Coca Cola. While coke is an advertisement looking to sell a product, Tzahal is an organization looking to buy souls.
The existence of Tzahal is best described as a paradox. Yes, they are protecting the Jewish state yet as time goes on they expend much energy on making it less Jewish.
Tzahal has been very successful both in defending Israel and in spreading their zionist propaganda among us.
big dealParticipantSorry for typos im typing from mobile device.
Also, hope u enjoy ur sweatshirt i did not mean to ruin it for u. :))
big dealParticipantFreedom would dictate that part of a persons right of equality and pursuing ones opportunities should be the right to not pursue. In israel where military service is mandatory there is no way to grant “equal rights” as you put it for many reasons other than religion that you refuse to discuss. The whole thing is propaganda.
The proper term to use would be “acceptance” of all genders.
If you want to discuss equal rights in a fair manneryou would need a new threadfor that. It doesnt belong under a thread titled tzhal.
big dealParticipantGenerally if one has less rights than the other there is no equality
big dealParticipantOk. So when you say equality, what exactly are u equalling?
big dealParticipantA) my question was general. I was just pointing out how it relates here.
B) very clever. Simply put equality that infringes is not equality.
big dealParticipantYou make no sense. The question is if equality has a stand if uphoding it infringes on peoples rights. This is a genreal question.
big dealParticipantOom: your statement of equality bothers me.
Does everyone need to be treated equally if it causes an infringement on others rights? Where is the equality on that?
Accepting women into the tzhal is destructive to men? Where are their rights? They dont have an option to get out.
April 11, 2013 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm in reply to: If this is what we've been waiting 2000 years for… #1073688big dealParticipantmdd:
There’s no connection. The examples you brought are on time seemingly human failings by people of stature.
This is an evil group (women prayer) of people whose sole purpose of existence is to sin and to push their sinful cause onto people. It is a thought out deliberate choice of action or actions against God on the holiest place of the earth.
Al eilah ani bochia.
I wonder if Rabbi Akiva is laughing harder now, or is he crying and begging Hashem to bring his shechina back to Yerushalayim where it belongs.
Its been a long 2000 years.
April 10, 2013 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm in reply to: How would you respond to Savage on Metzitzah #1027980big dealParticipantIt is hypocritical that the same liberal crowd that defends a nurse that stands idly by as an old woman collapses clearly dying takes up the battle cry of vnishmartem meod.
If you let them come dictate to you what your religion is or isnt and how it applies based on written text, the laws would change so often, you wouldnt know which religion you were originally practicing.
April 10, 2013 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm in reply to: How would you respond to Savage on Metzitzah #1027979big dealParticipantThe practice of religion belong to the people of said faith. Jews have mesorah of doing things one way or another, some of it is law, and some of it custom. We have a right to practice it as we see fit so long we dont hurt another human being. For persons not belonging to certain religions, sects… to dictate what should be done or shouldnt based on what they think is law is a violation of basic constitutional rights.
If indeed they claim to be protecting babies then they need to provide proof of links between infected mohalim and infected babies.
April 9, 2013 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm in reply to: How would you respond to Savage on Metzitzah #1027932big dealParticipantIt is stupid to think that you can call into a radio show with an apposing opinion and expect to be given a fair chance of explaining yourself.
He kept on saying hes having a conversation but in reality it was a rudely dominated session. every time one of his callers had somthing logical to say he cut into them or asked them an off topic questn.
big dealParticipantMost chassidishe couples have only seen or spoken to each other 2 or 3 times before in their lives. How much chiba do u really think is displayed in this “dance”. Its more like a very somber walk and sincere couples daven then very intensely. Its supposed to be a major eis ratzon.
November 28, 2012 3:35 am at 3:35 am in reply to: What is The Best Ways to Sound Insulate the basement for a tennant #910309big dealParticipantThere are so many ways to go about this conversation. You’re most in luck if this is new construction. Then i would say to apply it on plywood of floor and cover again with another plywood.
if you do it from the ceiling, it would probably help but not as much because of all the light fixtures, vents… that would go thru it.
I think a double floor is a waste of money.
green glue on the wall between layers of sheetrock helps alot although not perfect.
I don’t see any benefits of the foam. I don’t remember the name of company that did the work. sorry.
November 27, 2012 2:08 am at 2:08 am in reply to: What is The Best Ways to Sound Insulate the basement for a tennant #910306big dealParticipantdid you want to insulate the rest of the house from the tenant in the basement?
I used green glue (between floors) and its pretty good. It does a very good job at insulating noise such as talking, singing… I don’t even hear any babies crying and there are alot of little children nearby. You do hear vibrations and thumps like footsteps and children running.
I dont see what spray foam would do for you.
big dealParticipant42 – why is the onus of achdus fall on the ones who did not show?
It really is Agudah’s fault. They know all about this anti – zion shittah – its not something new. They should not have invited such a controversial figure as R’ Lau to speak knowing that it would ruffle other people’s feathers.
big dealParticipantI probably should just keep quiet and let things be. There’s still so much more to be said on the subject.
Middlepath: The same is with everything in life. It is the duty of the parent to keep open communication an conversation running throughout their childrens’ lives. This helps them gauge the maturity level and emotional support the child might have/need. I just don’t think its so necessary to be on the lookout to be ready to jump the second the kid might have enough maturity to handle the internet/facebook.
In the age where government or liberal minded people have taken control over our rights as parents to decide on the best method of raising children, is it too complex of an idea to want to create an environment where facebook is not encouraged to protect our children from the inherent dangers of the internet?
They tell us to put our babies on their backs to sleep to prevent sids.
Our kids must wear helmets when they ride their bikes even in their own backyard…
We should dare to even dream of hitting our children for fear of being charged with child abuse.
Never talk negatively to a kid – you might hurt their self esteem…
(I know I’ll get smashed for the above.)
But they would never discourage internet/facebook use for fear of going against their “progressive” ideas. How many terrible things have happened through neglectful use of these tools. How many suicides, homocides, assaults, bullying, stalking… you name it… are reported on a daily basis. (forget about the ones never reported.)
You ready to put that whole responsibility on the shoulders of a young kid – or even a teenager? Even with proper training and knowledge,kids fall into all kinds of traps. So do adults by the way (ex: identity theft).
Adults need tools to advance in life and they need to have access to the world beyond their home. I think its time to send our kids back to the ball field.
big dealParticipantMiddlePath: Exactly.
“I’d say that chances are, a child of 12 or 15 would probably not have the maturity or responsibility required to handle taking care of a baby or being committed to and being in a genuine relationship”
That’s exactly the point. Just because internet and FB can be used for good non harmful things it doesn’t mean that people of all ages have the maturity, moral convictions and personal safety knowledege to know how to use it. I don’t believe it should start at a young age. We could break into it slowly with the right guidance.
You say that if we ban facebook and internet, some kids will find other means of access. True. But those we can protect we should. I also don’t know if the right word is ban or something else. The word ban almost means nothing today. We need to teach appreciation.
big dealParticipantI think its hilarious that people get all worked up on a line that so obviously meant to do exactly that.
Its even crazier that you mention the word molester and you have 3/4 of the cr down your back and the rest of the thread revolving around molestation regardless of what the rest of the op was about.
big dealParticipantMy feeling is not to allow FB for children at home. If they allow it in school in the lab in school or something – I have to think about it.
Thanks for filling me in. I mean seriously, I know the internet is a very important tool for business and so forth. I never said to ban it completely. I just don’t see why we need to expose our children to it so much.
Let me ask you a couple of questions here. What’s your opinion about say, a twelve year old girl having an affair? Or how about a 15 year old giving birth? What about giving a 13 year old boy the keys to a car?
Please don’t answer its against the torah or such. Do you think its ok or not and why. There’s a reason for my asking this its part of the discussion.
big dealParticipantMiddlePath: Ok. So should a school ban facebook? Yes. If its a private school and that’s what the parents paying for it are expecting.
As a side note. I do believe that a school should ban facebook and the private use of the internet by kids. It has nothing to do with being Jewish. I believe in keeping a child’s innocence as long as possible. Why are taking these little angels and making them grow up way before their time? Putting them in charge of their own safety when they haven’t yet reached the age of 10. Are we shirking our responsibilities.
Yes. I know its something they want. They also want a million dollars to be able to get the latest brand name clothing, latest video game console and so much more. Are we as parents losing the ability to say NO.? What exactly will happen if children get full exposure to the realities of the world when they are a little older? Anyone going to lose out if they get acquainted with the internet/facebook when they are out of high school? (never figured out the importance of facebook anyway. It might be a toy but definitely not a necessity.)
This whole conversation doesn’t just stop at FB
big dealParticipantThe question here is not why we send our children to certain schools. The idea here is to provide what the parents expect when they pay for these private schools.
Your other comments have value and would provide interesting discussion in another thread.
big dealParticipantMiddlepath: I have a problem with your line of reasoning. If I were to follow your logic then I would presume there would be no difference in attending a private school to a public school.
The reason why jewish parents send their children to a specific school is because it has a certain atmosphere and a slant in the chinuch that the parents (should) agree to.
That is not to say that every school is for everybody. But the duty of a private school is to maintain the atmosphere and level of seclusion the parents expect.
I would think that it was a big mistake to encourage the students to sign on to facebook in the first place. DUMB DECISION.
big dealParticipantsam2: Not mishing is a chumra people keep for themselves. It does not mean that they dont invite other guest. I know plenty of people who would not eat at others on Pesach but have plenty of needy people at their own table.
big dealParticipantAre u losing weight?
big dealParticipantNo. I was actually talking about the Halacha that a mother’s life comes before an unborn child. Even if it means an abortion. But that’s besides the point. Again, I ask you, is death the only bad thing that we’re afraid of? No, there are plenty of horror stories you hear from people that are still alive but have to live with the sad reality of not being able to bear more children because it took too long to get the care they needed.
big dealParticipantNobody likes hospitals. Personally, I think that if there was better advocating on patient’s behalf people would feel more comfortable in a hospital setting.
What we need to do is to educate people as to what their rights are as a patient and to know that if something doesn’t feel right, they or the accompanying person should speak up and advocate on their behalf.
Before you choose a doctor, set up an appointment with him/her and prepare all the questions about their mehalach in medicine to see if that suits you. If you’re not comfortable find a different doctor. Don’t use them because everyone else uses them.
big dealParticipantThe reason why I mentioned it is because there is one thing you might want to clarify. A mother’s life always comes before a baby. From your posts you make it sound as if you have to put the baby first.
big dealParticipantIs death the only concern for mothers?
big dealParticipantAvram: I don’t know if you’re reading this but I’ll post anyway.
First of all, I’m sorry if I insulted you. Perhaps my wording came out too harsh. I meant to say that anyone witnessing a birth would know about the many things that could go wrong even in the most common ones. Never meant to insult your intelligence. I do appreciate your candidness in responding to my post. You’ve responded with equanimity – something my post did not deserve. Thank You.
The logic I wasn’t following was moving your whole family into the hospital or the car on shabbos in case of no heat. Childbirth puts a mother in very grave danger, as noted above. Just because something is natural and supposed to happen, it doesn’t mean that it is not dangerous. It just means that it will generally happen on its own. It doesn’t mean that that there wouldn’t be any negative consequences.
I do believe that less intervention is better. And as long as everything is fine you should let nature take its course. However, that is only once there are all types of personnel and equipment available for just in case. I am extremely apposed to scheduled c-sections or any section for that matter that is not done after all other options have been ruled out.
As far as the green journal stuff: It doesn’t make any point as well as the Netherlands stuff. Like I said before, people are prescreened to see if they are a candidate for home births. So the comparisons of mortality rates don’t make any sense. I just wonder what event, where it happens and what the effects were would disqualify people from being candidates.
I never said anything about home births exponentially or tripling mortality rates. Wrong address.
March 27, 2012 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm in reply to: Why Are Divorces Usually Initiated by the Wife? #870665big dealParticipantmen are procastinators
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