BenK

Ideally our community needs a “Town Hall”. There are families of different means in our lovely community. B”H we have people of means who help others tremendously beyond the call of duty in charity whether HAtsala or the poor or yeshivas. Then on the other end there are decent hard working financially struggling families. Besides Tuition for each child from nursery through 12th grade in the thousands there are Additional Undisucssed Fees Tagging Along As well! Each child ALSO needs to pay about $500 for CATERED LUNCH, about $500 for TRIPS susch as to other states or the country for a weekend or water rafting. (I understand there are many families that may travel several times a year to hotels across the country and trips to Europe and Israel a few times a year. IS the YESHIVA Catering to THEIR needs when they expect on top of tuition many hundreds more for the NEEDS of goging water rafting or snow tubing or camping during school season. In Europe or Israel or even 15 years ago in the USA did we have these added Expenses??? Who are the Yeshivas catering to? Is there not also CAMP EXPENSES families pay for in the summer as well???? Are the Yeshivas Really having in mind Affordability for EVERY JEWISH FAMILY???????? I WISH WE CAN HAVE A MEETING OR TOWN HALL. I am even willing to have “Working class family” Yeshivas for those that are Middle to Lower class families. THen the more well to do schools can even have trips to Israel and Switzerland.

Not to get too specific I live in Flatbush. The boys wear hats. And children may see their stressed parents and budgeting to afford what they need. Perhaps wondering how much can be alleivated by using the aid from government and perhaps not catering lunch when it can be Free or needing $250 and $250 or so trips per child per year on top of the tuition.

I do not complain that others may go to hotels in different states or other countries several times a year. Many do not and if you can afford it Great. Excellent. Its your full right.
But if Torah Schools are the RESPONSABILITY OF KEHILAS YAAKOV should Innocent Jewish children and their stressed parents suffer if PERHAPS yeshivas cater to families that have no trouble paying for CATERED LUNCH for each child and School Trips of about $500 per child or similar things that May have been considered. MANY families struggle paying many thousands of dollars for tuition – and Quite a FEw struggle a lot. Can you direct me to ther POORER Jews Yeshivas then!?

However the OU can send out an alert or on their site that the mobile truck is not certified for any food produced on it and maybe the restaurants in the area can be educated about it so they can let consumers know, whether they are asked or not. Their is also a Chabad truck nearby so they can also let people know.

But when may Rabbanim publicly speak out against the Israeli government for trying to draft charedim and Satmar camps thrill their children with mock protests against Israel and throwing eggs at Israels Prime MInisters car and some Satmar rav in Israel says frum Israeli soldiers should be chased out of shul and on the other hand there is no COunter Voice seen in the public eye of Rabbanim speaking Against Joining with Mortal Enemies of the Jewish people or lack of Derech Erets or even HAkaras Hatov to Soldiers Protecting Erets Yisroel Al Pi Teva, as Yehushua, Gideon and David to name a few is it a Chilul Hashem?

But A) Is it True that Neturei Karta are the foot soldiers of Satmar

B) Is it Treason (Bogdim) to demonstrate toegther with Arab enemies of Israel (we pray daily against the Malshinim and Bogdim)

C) Is it a Chilul Hashem and great lack of Hakaras Hatov to shame a frum Israeli soldier or kick him out of a minyan?

D) if many do speak out against ISRAEL every now and then, then why is there silence in the face of what seems to be Chilul Hashem and Treason to Hashem’s people???

I am sure if asked we will get a clear answer and we clarify of “Shtika KHodaa”.

Have not big rabbanim spoken out strongly against the Israeli government? If they indeed are not aware of what is going on we should let them know so they can make the needed proclamations. If rabbanim speak out then where these hoodlums react there will ALSO be Proper people who will come to the defense of the victems and break the chillul hashem. If , perhaps due to such media as YW, it is publicised some now take money from Satmar they need to know what happens at Satmar camps (as per YW videos) teaching yingellas to protest against Israel and throw eggs at the prime minister.

Surely some (or many?) Talmidim view YW (only filtered we hope) and should indeed bring it up to their rebbes. We need to present a clear picture and hear from the rabbanim

In my oped I was merely saying its outragous the US is paying hundreds of Millions of dollars to the Palestinian terrorist Authority while for years they glorify and indoctrinate the killing of Jews in their media and mosques and schools. That they actually pay stipends from US money to terrorists families an in Israeli jails. That its about time we rallied en mass like when 100,000 rallied in Washingto during Pres Bush’s term for Israel. THis is too controversial?!? I also said we should say Tehilim, pray and learn more torah. Why is this not accepted – its not like we have op eds most days even and the situation in Israel is UNBEARABLE?????

Dear BT Guy,

Maybe you should check with your Rav on your thoughts?

Regarding the issue of “other woman working there” I directly addressed this in the other thread (re female only job ads)

Unless you walk around your office disrobed or hug each other, I’m not sure why there should be “complications”.

How do you go to the grocery store or the city bus?

If you mean Yichud, cant that be solved by not leaving the door locked or other relatively easy means.

Regarding “Crisis” – You prbably havent read ANY Newspaper or Internet News Media for A Couple of Years?

Theres a Major Economic and Job Crisis in the US right now for a few years.

(why do you know something – I live in Flatbush I’m a COPE Junior Accounting school alumni)

a) I am talking USA (see the female only ads in the Jewish classified sites and papers)

b) if I (or any man?) have a job we wouldn’t mind being the “odd man out” – I was for many years the “odd Jew out” as well.

Also for an all female office, why should that keep men from parnassah. In your streets do men and women walk on different streets or trains? Tachlis is Tachlis. Office is not a dating or social place – its a parnassah place.

Hi, if you notice in my post I ended it “equal job openings for equal pay” Furthermore in times as these many men would indeed agree to lower salaries. And on the other hand being a Shylock by only hiring Mexicans or women because they think they can pay less is also wrong in Halacha (gezeila) and by taking an opportunity for Frum men for parnassah for their family as well