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bein_hasdorimParticipant
shindy: Its not OK!
Not every parent is such a maiven on their kids,
like they think they are!
Also not every possible scenario is considered by parents
(wanting to leave, they will justify it as responsible)
& you should intervene!
When bad things happen people always say
“how could the parents do such a thing?”
but beforehand, “it’s ok, Nish Geferlich!”
only if one truly considers that something bad might happen
will they rethink their decision.
bein_hasdorimParticipantSemper_Fidelus: It totally affects men in a huge way
& thats why men have a chiyuv & a right to protest.
If men did something on a daily basis all over
the place which caused tons of women to sin on a daily basis
you bet the women would protest.
read feivels 2nd post on this topic
feivel: well said
bein_hasdorimParticipantGive Me a Break:
“Just because the Torah says “You may eat meat” does not mean “You SHALL eat meat.”
I see i’m trailing along the lost momentum of this post,
but i’d like to address the aforementioned comment you made.
We are supposed to eat kosher animals as to give them their tikkun & bring them to
a higher madregah on the ladder of Domeim, Tzo’meach, Chai, M’daber, Yehudi,
by reciting the blessing on them & eating them we are doing them a great
spiriual kindness, thus achieving (one) of their
purposes. (This a Chassidic & Kabbalistic approach) however i assume the latter
would sit well with you. (you seem to be from the “i’m spiritual type”)
I say this with the highest regard.
As for peta, they put animals at a higher level than humans
thus totally missing the boat, like a certain furer Y”S V’zichro
making their actual agenda twisted & wrong.
bein_hasdorimParticipantI apologize for using the title “niturei karte” in the past,
i was always referring to the nutjobs breakaway party.
I believe that they are potentially dangerous,
& fall into the category of “Oy L’rasha Oy L’shcheinoy!”
They’re also Mischaber to R’shoim & Rotzchim.
& Desecrate the Holy Shabbos,(not literally but in essence)
by showing up to these Asifas Rotzchim & Tzmei’ei Dam!
bein_hasdorimParticipantDoc: A religious yid would vote for obama?
Your kidding me?
That’s lashon hora & i’m not m’kabel!!!
Perhaps he misunderstood,
maybe he thought it’s a mitzvah to vote for a cousin? (yishmael)
maybe he got his psak halacha on YWN?
or maybe he’s part of the niturei karte?
See! You have to be Dan L’kaf Zchus!
oy! bama! where is your experience?
on the basketball courts?
September 25, 2008 6:22 am at 6:22 am in reply to: Is it the correct thing to have takanos for weddings? #623117bein_hasdorimParticipantREALIST: if you find it let me know.
To clarify my opinion, It’s not the Takanos, that i’m against
(see original post) it’s.. should they make them for this type of thing.
Today is different then Amol B”H
(in some cases that might sound wrong)
however every simcha today, even by the poorest of us there is
nice bilkalach for all, FurShpiez, NochShpiez, MittelShpiez,
chairs to sit on, tablecloths cutlery, sodas, music, be it a one-manband
or cd playing(i’ve actually been to a Chasunah like that)
waiters, etc..
who cares which hall? or how fancy?
Ice sculptures? waterfalls? Gevald!!!
Today all our simchas are made Batampt.
not like Amol where there was a huge difference
& people could feel ashamed.
We seems childish when such a Takanoh is actually made,
we’re talking about basic maturity, is our tzibur so immature?
that takanos have to be made on the most common sense things.
If this is ok, then they should make a takanah
that immature people shouldn’t get married!
bein_hasdorimParticipantoutoftowner: although i feel for all these girls who have a hard time,
however i also feel for the boys who have the same problem.
Let me give you my take on this.
When i was dating i was looking
for a slim girl. I was absolutely not attracted to overweight
or even full girls. try as i may, i never found these girls
even remotely attractive.
You can’t expect people to ignore their obvious strong dislike to something,
or else we’ll have even a bigger Shidduch crises on our hands!!!
There is a long term health issue with overweight girls, & boys.
The following is the way i see it with overweight ppl,
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If even when their dating & trying to impress their potential mate
1)being young & in their prime
2)knowing the hardships in Shiduchim w/ being overweight,
3)knowing the long term health risks of being overweight,
4)having time on their hands to diet, & exercise & not having to run a home,
they still can’t manage to lose the weight,
How do you expect them to ever lose the weight?
And is this person, who is not attracted to this girl,
supposed to marry her & suffer that, & potential health risks?????!!!!!
SERIOUSLY! I hope your spouse is overweight, cuz if not what
even gives you the right to suggest this approach
if you yourself wouldn’t do it?
Sorry for the tone, but what you expect is ridiculous!
i apologize if i offended any overweight people,
with my post, but this is the reality.
bein_hasdorimParticipantLeiderLeider… I agree with you totally about smoking.
It’s is a terrible habit / addiction with no serious benefits.
However Legabeh coffee, like i wrote above.
September 24, 2008 4:47 am at 4:47 am in reply to: Is it the correct thing to have takanos for weddings? #623115bein_hasdorimParticipantREALIST: I have my opinions, Af Al Pi Kain,
but i will take a look before i reply.
bein_hasdorimParticipantmuchcommonsense: I agree, although i am occasionally, a fellow honker
(not to be confused with Hocker)I use discretion, for instance,
This dude was driving 2.3 mph the whole time, suddenly stops at a green light,
then i notice he’s on his cellphone!
Chutzpah Noirah!!!
I treated him to a 1.7 second blast of my horn!
However some people just honk cuz they’re running late,
just plain nervous, or just to let you know they exist.
My idea for this is the following.
If they honk for more than 2 seconds,
or after 10:30pm they should receive an electric shock from
their steering wheel this should keep their honking to only
when it’s absolutely necessary.
bein_hasdorimParticipantLeiderLeider… It better be a darn good coffee if it’s gonna be your last!
but I respectfully disagree w/ your solution.
who’s to say later on in life you wont decide to have a coffee
& then you’re throwing away all your hard work!
The Kintz, is to cut down strategically, till your in total control
of your consumptions as well as how often you do.
Like this you don’t lose the sweet delicious taa’nug of Ka’aveh,
& it doesn’t get outta hand!
bein_hasdorimParticipantThanks Doc! I’ll try, but i’ts more than that.
Most of America seemes to even be condoning this Y”S-nik.
There wasn’t even such a big turnout @ the protest,
assuming most frum yidden,(excluding niturei karteh fanatics) & pro-Israel gentiles
have a serious problem with him!
bein_hasdorimParticipantMayan_Dvash: Again, Wake up! Fact is they do abuse more often than not
So you’re just gonna let all these Kinderlach take beatings & abuse
because of your old school shitos till we can weed out the bad corrupt immature rebbes????!!!!
If we even can???!!!
Sorry, no children sould suffer, just because you also got Unge’Frasket as a child.
Face it we are not on the same Madregah as our Frierdigeh were,
& rebbes, unfortunately are included.
September 22, 2008 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm in reply to: Should Yeshiva Bochrim Dress in “Style” ? #622242bein_hasdorimParticipantNOTICE: the following statement should not be read during seder,
and cannot be considered as part of “Kevius Ittim”
It is also not recommended for women (unless you attended an accredited Seminary which-curriculum included Gemarah B’chavrusot)
Veimloachshuv: although your Lomdus has potential
your Amkus in nonexistent,
the “Shpielt Zich Besser” S’voroh
may have roots in Loy Se’choneim
however the “Intimidates the Oilem” S’voroh is flawless
the chisoron is in the Oilem’s intimidation, whatever their reason
the player taking advantage of this, is not in any way based in
giving Chein to the Goyim on his part.
I hope you are capable of being “Makir” & “Modeh Al Ho’Emes”
bein_hasdorimParticipantjust me: lol! I like your reasoning about the black & white, cleaners.. etc
bein_hasdorimParticipantFirst of all most rebbes hit when they lose control,
1)It is NOT Discipline if you’re not in control.
2)If you are a Good Mechanech you dont need to get physical.
3)Today there are many inexperienced unqualified rebbes out there.
even if there are some good ones, I can’t give free reins to all
because some can be trusted.
Therefore 100% assur. Rebbes! keep your hands to yourselves!
September 22, 2008 4:40 am at 4:40 am in reply to: Is it the correct thing to have takanos for weddings? #623103bein_hasdorimParticipantTo answer your question, Noooooooooo! Loy mit an aleph!!!
Maybe we should have rabbonim make Takanos for people who eat too much?
If parents are not mature enough to know how to spend within their means
they shouldn’t be parents.
bein_hasdorimParticipantguys, I also wanted to know if any of you are drinking around 3 cups of coffee
a day for about 10, 15, or 20 years,
& are there any serious side effects?
veimloachshuv: it would obviously have to be something caffeine based,
to Satiate the cravings.
bein_hasdorimParticipantJewess: To answer your question, these colors are nice, (which is required)
& they dont attract too much attention, as say a red, or colorful garment.
Not my Psak!! just a reason.
bein_hasdorimParticipant1)There is an Iinyan for yidden to wear white,
especially Shabbos & Yom Tov.
(dont know about the black however.
2)bnei Torah wear black & white because
they are respectable, & should dress appropriately,
Lawyers, etc. businessmen, (old school that is)
I believe the Rabbonim of old also wore what was considered
respectable attire.
bein_hasdorimParticipantSomeoneLikeYou: Sorry! (track back well over two years….) MAZEL TOV!!! 🙂
Very happy to hear, still wish loads of Hatzlacha!
However my previous answer does adresses this point.
We dont have to check a BT (who came from a religious family)
if he is a real jew, however a Geir we do!
September 21, 2008 2:06 am at 2:06 am in reply to: Should Yeshiva Bochrim Dress in “Style” ? #622239bein_hasdorimParticipantJoseph: I was thinking the same thing!
veimloachshuv: u sure? it looks like your spelling!
False veimloachshuv: How Dare you!!! Impersonating a fellow YWN member?
There should be consequences!!!
bein_hasdorimParticipantteenager: I agree it’s not good to be too dependent, (but it tastes sooo Goood!)
shindy: sorry, bout that comment, i guess ur going for a refill now!
yoshi: thanx! I dont usually do corny (but sometimes i just can’t help it)
Thanks to all the Mavienim, i appreciate it, i guess 2 cups a day, would be a Peshorah. (compromise)
Although I wouldn’t up my coffee intake for alleged health benefits, it’s nice
for addicts to have a Teinah.
now if only there were a study that found health benefits in smoking.
(i dont smoke!) (believe it’s totally Assur!)
Going to have extra strong cup o’ coffee before Selichois tonight.
A Gutteh Voch to all!
September 19, 2008 5:04 am at 5:04 am in reply to: Should Yeshiva Bochrim Dress in “Style” ? #622231bein_hasdorimParticipantveimloachshuv: L’aniyus daati, the Issur of Loy Se’choneim Would only
be No’geah if one wears the shirt to be cool (like Michael).
However if he wears it only cuz, “Es Shpielt Zich Besser!”
or cuz it “Intimidates the Oilem”
Farvos Nisht? = Why not?
bein_hasdorimParticipantSomeoneLikeYou: First of all i wish you Hatzlacha Merubah in finding
your Bashert quickly & easily.
Our Community Has to stop worrying about what the neighbors will say
What will people thing & Do what is right according to the Torah.
People are fearful of Geirim because they have to check thoroughly
if they were M’geiyer Kda’as V’din!!
September 18, 2008 5:13 am at 5:13 am in reply to: Should Yeshiva Bochrim Dress in “Style” ? #622222bein_hasdorimParticipantveimloachshuv: In life, there are two types of people
1) Originators
2) Imitators
now i think there’s a 3rd type.
Not bold enough to be an Originator,
& too timid to be an Imitator.
I see you’re into all these trends,
So I say buy a shirt w/ an alligator, put on some nikes, wear a pink tie
& come to shul you’ll cover all the basic groups.
i get your point, lol! should’ve posted that up front.
bein_hasdorimParticipantLeiderLeider… : Thanks so much, in the past few years i always wake up
groggy not fully refreshed, i’ll start trying ur ideas.
bein_hasdorimParticipantI can only try:
Its a Humorous way of referring to fanatics
It’s in no way meant literally,
at least i hope so, I didnt write it,
just thought it was funny.
I however am anti-fanatics
like self appointed Oisvurfs who join a group
of batlonim to terrorize people.
bein_hasdorimParticipantI agree to the original poster, however i’d like to make a distinction
between small products(a knife $3.00)
& larger products(ovens & cars of course)
also some stuff are unavoidable(not knowing)
& some stuff people knowingly buy!!
Especially expensive stuff.
If we can do this when the Holocaust(Hashem Yikoim Domom)
is still fresh in our minds,
I dont know what to think about these people!
Just like there is a chiyuv of Hakoras Hatov
there obviously has to be a Zechiras Hora
Like we have w/ amaleik Y”S (& if i remember correctly)
the Gaon brings that The germans are amaleik!!!
bein_hasdorimParticipantTOHIGHSCHOOLGUY: “I still do not understand the problem with a relationship between guys and girls, and have not been able to get a concrete answer out of anyone.”
I will give you a concrete answer, It usually (more often than not)
leads to Isurim,(figure it out) & face it, although maybe most girls are looking for
positive attention, understanding, & just to talk, guys are not
(at least straight ones) guys can be manipulative (not talkin bout myself here)
persuasive, to a naive unsuspecting girl who’s just looking for a friend etc.
I’m sure some guys & girls will protest this as untrue but being truly
honest thats just the way it is.
It hurts my heart knowing the true nature of things as teenager has said
& zalmi, & I think (not being closeminded) that the co-ed idea is ultimately
counterproductive, however the seperate events like rabbi wallerstein bowling etc.. has the right idea, although there is not enough of those & it has to be more extensive than bowling & pizza, like baseball/basketball leagues, paintball, clay shooting, etc. (& interesting programs for the girls) so the guys are & girls are really having fun with their peers looking forward to the next fun thing all the while with learning & experienced speakers whom they can ask their question etc. you get it? this is it!!!
Kosher, Educational, & Fun.
this is my solution, teenager, borrowed from yours, slightly altered,
from co-ed to seperate (not less fun i hope).
Hope this happens I know guys who are w/ Rabbi wallerstein prog
& it keeps them entertained & out of trouble.(when they are there)
Hope I was of some help.
May Hashem have mercy on his nation & give them the wisdom to do what
is right in his eyes. Amen!
bein_hasdorimParticipanttorahis1: you know what she means! & if daas torah likes Pizza,
mac & cheese, & steak, I don’t mind them picking the menu,
however the sad fact is that there are administrators out there
no names of course who are defying daas torah & mentschlichkeit
& common sense, for whatever their reason, & we can’t turn a blind eye
when the ones who are suffering, the kinderlach can’t even defend themselves!
& I don’t want to hear replies from the ignorant ones
who dont know the real facts!!!!
bein_hasdorimParticipantto torahis1: Hah Hah! Taliban, judgemental, mean spiritedness. I agree!
& to veimloachsuv: moycha zein in full force, but like a Mentsch!
September 17, 2008 4:43 am at 4:43 am in reply to: Should Yeshiva Bochrim Dress in “Style” ? #622189bein_hasdorimParticipantveimloachshuv: First of all obviously you mean if they want to.
I wouldn’t think that the Chiyuv of a talmid chochom to be dressed
clean and respectable (yeshiva boy = potential talmid chochom)
to include being up&up w/ the style!
To answer ur question first of all between me & you how many
yeshiva boys are dressed “mamish” in the height of fashion really!!
I dont mean wearing calvin klein ties & flats w/ stitching
& D&G glasses while wearing dress pants that are 100% wool
(btw seperates in style are mostly Poly Blends)
but most yeshiva guys who think their in style
are just barely keeping up w/ the times!
& I don’t think that’s included in Chukas Hagoy!
If we were to stay w/ the old we’d be wearing sandals & robes
no Borsalino’s 4 sure. do you get my point? Even the Rabonnim’s
hats have changed over times as well as other garments.
now that i made that point.
i think in my humble opinion
that boys who are serious of becoming the next generations
Roshei Yeshiva & Gedolim (the real ones) should not be so into their
clothing & to focus their energies on learning torah & Halacha
thoroughly & working on themselves until their middos are exemplary,
not being busy with, are we doing two pleats or flat front now?
However the rest of the Hamonei Am if they want they could
dress in style (note what i pointed out on top)
we dont have to look like aleins
but i dont think that “shpitz style” should be a
thing for any ben torah or bas yisroel,
Especially if current styles clash with Tznius.
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