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Amazing husband and beautiful, healthy kids. Hands down.
Fountain ballroom has been around a couple years now.
@ chash: Agreed!!
@ chash: Agreed! Couldn’t have said it better. I was quite baffled and saddened to read the comments blaming the Jewish woman. Yes, she could have responded better. Yes, I would have (I like to think) acted differently. But that she all of a sudden is the perpetrator? Come on!
It accidentally flew over the sambatyon river.
I’m really sorry guys, but I agree with TorahMom 1,000%.
As a post- seminary girl, whos been out a couple of years, I am so grateful to my parents, for denying me internet access when I was in highschool.
Now I need it for college, and I have my laptop. I never, ever felt stifled in highschool, and I now know how to use my internet responsibly.
My parents were the smartest things in the world, and there was no reason whatsoever for me to have internet in highschool, when I was too young and immature to be trusted with even filtered internet. I am grateful that I did not ruin my life forever when I was in highschool.
TorahMom- keep up the good work of protecting your daughter, and as long as she will be able to have internet access when she needs it- for school,work, it is the most sensible thing in the world.
Don’t try to convince me that your kid will feel stifled or rebel, because that I can tell you, that I never felt that way.
Sure, there will be kids in highschool that didn’t have internet and they rebelled, but that does not have to do with the internet, as much as their own issues, and they would have probably rebelled anyways.
Hatzlacha!!
Mashiach is a tzadik nistar so no one famous we know is likely to be mashiach.
He will come out of nowhere, and when it is really Mashiach, its not going to be a question. Everyone will know and it will be as clear as daylight.
Of course, there are gonna be people who don’t follow- those are the people that are not going to be zoche to go to yerushalayim.
But if you are a G=d fearing yid, it’ll be clear and we will all know.
I hope it comes soon!!! I’m so excited!!
I think a lot of people are being harsh and rude in their posts for no reason.
The OP asked a valid, fair question and is seeking answers to help her. Majority of you did nothing of the sort, and just bashed someone whom you never even met or know nothing about.
Ikno- I do not really have advice for you. Maybe she would benefit from seeing a counselor or someone because she may have an issue deeper than her problems with yiddishkeit.
I would speak to an expert mechanech who you could tell the whole story to and who actually knows what he/she is talking about.
Hatzlacha!
Yenta- kishmecha kein hu
live- right- I can definitely identify with almost all of those stages
Im shocked!
That is truly terrible that someone would do something like that, and I am really sorry for you.
Unfortunately I do not know the slightest thing about seminaries so I can’t really be of much help.
But Iyh Hashem has a wonderful year planned ahead for you, and I hope you see exactly what it is very soon!!
Hatzlacha Rabah
Love the way they said extra money or financial incentives doesn’t make them work harder on a shidduch.
Hah! Yeh right.
the art of the moi:
I totally understand you, cuz I am a bais Yaakov girl who has been there too.
Firstly, keep looking forward and never look back. You feel remorse already so now its moving forward.
Now, I have never managed to completely erase the tummah from myself but it is possible to fill ourself with kedushah so that the images fade to the point where it takes up very little space.
I am saying this from my experience and this is what worked for me. Do what works for you but for me the process was two stepped:
1) Abstain! Stop cold turkey from the behavior. As long as you are continuing the old behavior, change and growing is impossible.
I had to put in filters, change my habits, anything to just stop.
The longer you stay “clean”, the more and more the tumah will fade.
2) Be active in putting more kedusha in your life. This does not mean saying tehillim 100 times a day. It helped me to go speak to a rav for chizuk in this area, listen to a shiur once a week… etc.
A rav once told me that either you are growing , or you are falling back. It is not enough just to abstain, but you need to make a active effort to grow.
I hope my perspective helps you.
Most importantly, do not beat yourself up about it. Move forward, be strong, you are already on the right track and hatzlacha!!
Hey Chani91!
I agree with you, I have heard his shiurim too and he’s my favorite speaker. I have also been looking for more of his shiurim so I’m on the same page as you with that one.
I will tell you that sometime Chazak’s hotline- 17182582008 has him on. If you or anyone else finds out where more of his shiurim would be, please post.
Thanks
mod 42- in camp simcha?
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The fact that we are having a whole discussion about Mordechai shows how successful and widespread his work has become.
I am personally a major fan of his humour as is my whole family.
And by the way, I 1,000% believe that the guy behind the account is really him. He does not need to prove himself anymore.
May you have continued hatzlacha in brightening up klal yisroel!
Huh?
I never heard of that in my life. I wear white skirts all the time and as long as its not see through theres nothing wrong with wearing white skirts or even green, pink yellow or blue for that matter
Playtime-
what does wrong grammar have to do with being yeshivish?
I know plenty of people who are not yeshivish who don’t have proper grammar and also visa versa.
And whats with bashing yeshivish people, anyways?
Umm.. I don’t think its ok to post names of real yidden who are wealthy. Its just not appropriate.
Nothing good will come out of this.
Whenever I can’t fall asleep I put on 880 radio and let it play in the background, and the monotonous voices put me to sleep.
How am I supposed to know how smart you are?
Can’t say what is the 3 most important, but being honest, giving, modest, love for Hashem and the Torah, and proud to be jewish are all really important.
Dunno if you could find clean, contemporary books nowadays.
You might wanna look at old classics that were written a while back, though I don’t know of any myself.
Okay… didn’t want to insult you but now that you’ve asked for it, Ill answer your question.
You, by far, post the most in the cr and yes, I do think its 2 much.
Hope ur not insulted.
Guys c’mon.
No one is saying that boys are pigs, or terrible animals or something. I’ve heard Rabbi Wallerstein speak and he does not bash guys like that.
But its just a fact that they have a very strong yetzer hara, and therefore may very likely be looking at the girl not for who she is. It’s just informing girls to understand how guys tick and therefore to be able to make smart choices.
That’ all. No need to get insulted.
Danish123:
+1,000,000
That was a awesome poem!
I am a girl, and I can relate to what you wrote in a very positive way.
Its so true!!!
It depends on how much you put on.
If you cake yourself like crazy, then yeah, it kinda fake.
But If u just put on lightly, then it just enhances the features you already have, and it makes it pretty.
Do I feel like a different person when I wear makeup? No. Just me in a little prettier and enhanced.
Why hasn’t this thread been erased yet?
Syag: So you are trying to say that the woman’s commandments are equal in intensity to that of a man? C’mon.
You may be right that tznius could also be to protect the woman, and not just the man, but even so, the woman’s mitzvos pale in comparison to what a man has to busy with the whole day.
Are we trying to dispute the words of Hashem that say “barasai yetzer hara, barasi torah tavlin”? Now do women have to learn Torah? No! Now, maybe they have tznius but no where in the torah does it say so explicitly that tznius is a protection from the yetzer hara. We can argue all we want, but I am just making my point from the Torah.
Quite a good place to make a point from, don’t you think?
Sorry, Interjection, but I am a woman and I can tell you that I have no where NEAR the same strong yetzer hara that a man has in that area. I’ve spoken about this with my (girl) friends, and my brother and his friends, and you can not compare.
Its just a fact, and its the way Hashem made the briyah since he created the world.
And by the way, that is one of the reasons why men have soo many more commandments then woman (like yarmulke, tzizus, torah) etc. cuz they need so much more to keep them in check.
Don’t get me wrong, we still have it but saying that it is equal is simply laughable.
Yes. I am ignoring you.
I will, bli neder, mail in a check.
May he have a refuah shleimah bikorov!
I’m a girl, (and a great one if I may add:) ) and I can tell you that I’ve waited 6 months + sometimes, just to get a yes from a boy.
@ golfer: Thanks for the compliment!
Wow!! Mazal Tov!!
Such good news:)
You should be zoche to build a bayis neeman beyisrael!
danish123:
Kol Hakoved on your desire to do the right thing, no matter how hard!
I know how hard it is because I stopped also and it was very, very hard.
All I can say is that it does get easier. Keep being strong and in a couple of weeks u will hopefully see your desire getting less and less.
Hatzlacha!
I would be devastated.
I love being jewish:)
I don’t think anyone is trying to convince you that the composer puts his soul in to music and the listener absorbs (even though I have heard that many times from great people), but just that inappropriate non- jewish music is wrong, and harmful, and that you don’t need a halachic proof or “inspiration” to stop yourself from doing something that is wrong.
Juboy613:
“”don’t do it the torah doesn’t let” i obviously understand but that doesn’t inspire me to stop ….i wish it did”
I feel bad that you are not inspired to stop, but sometimes in life, and especially yiddishkeit we have to do/stop doing something, even if we are not “inspired”, but because we are jews and that’s what the torah wants from you.
Hatzlacha Rabah!
“listening to jewish music may be just as much of an issue”
Are you serious?! Find all the problems you want with jewish music, and I may even agree but I think we all agree that you can not compare it to non-Jewish music.
“Needless to say it is not one of the yud gimmel ikrim and definitely is not on the level of eating chazir”
Of course its not one of the yud gimmel ikrim- we all know that. And I never equated it with eating chazir, I just used it as example. (sorry if it was misunderstood as being equated).
But does that mean that it is not wrong??! All because something is not one of the ikrim, it is not wrong? Of course it is.
Sam2:
Unfortunately, the majority of non-Jewish music nowadays is inappropriate.
I agree that clean songs (which are, by the way, very rare and few) are not assur. Songs like the climb.. etc are fine and I actually listen to them from time to time.
I guess I was generalizing all non-Jewish music cuz the overwhelming majority is inappropriate.
And I have a feeling that juboy613’s comment was not referring to appropriate music.
Sam2: Of course Hashem said its wrong.
Many of their songs are under the issue of 1)giluy aruos 2)guarding our ears and eyes from impure things 3) not going in the ways of the goyim.
Don’t even try to debate that listening to non-Jewish music is wrong. Please.
Listen, I am not a posek (or a male for that matter) so I can not give you the exact source. But it is a little sad that a yid should debate such a simple premise of yiddishkeit. I am sure, though, that if you wanted to be more exact, the Gedolim and chachomim can show you.
Juboy613: “I know its wrong but nobody ever really ever gives me a good reason to stop”
You just answered your own question by saying “I know its wrong”.
Gotcha answer right there. The reason to stop is because its wrong. According to who? to Hashem. (its like saying I know eating treiffe is wrong but no one ever gave me a reason to stop) ??!!?
If that fact that Hashem said its wrong is not enough for you, then Hashem should help you.
Is it hard? Of course its hard. I went through the same struggle. Of course jewish music is not as exciting as non jewish music. Otherwhise there would be no yetzer hara. But many things Hashem asks of us is difficult, yet they are ALL possible.
WIY- agreed. That is what I meant with my previous post.
Revooh:
Don’t worry- you do not have to stay away from all the jewish songs that use non-Jewish tunes.
Focus now on the non-Jewish music and don’t drive yourself crazy with other things!!
Good Luck!!
What is BSS seminary?
letsshcmooze:
Rabbi’s in black hats and kollel guys are not on the internet in the first place.
Rational Frummie:
I agree that we need to turn bad in to kodesh. However, the yetzer hara is so great that many who have set out on the internet to “turn bad in to good” have been overpowered by the yetzer hara and have fallen straight in to bad.
All I am saying is to protect yourself. I need to use the internet for college and stuff, so I do, but I have a strict filter that only allows me on certain things.
Believe me, I come from a great home, with yiddishkeit and support etc, and I still do not trust myself with a open internet. I have fallen before I installed this filter, and I never, ever want to fall like that again.
Hi Revooh!
Firstly, I would like to congratulate you on your desire to improve- it is truly admirable!
I’ve been there done that, too. When I was your age, I too, listened to non jewish music. BH, I do not today. Believe me, it was no easy journey and many people did not understand my struggle.
Believe me, I understand your struggle cuz I had it too. It is very, very tough. Every time you think ur gonna go crazy cuz you need to listen, just rememeber that ur stronger than you think you are and that Hashem is cheering you on.
Practical Advice:
Right now, you can not even imagine being without non-Jewish music for a day without going crazy. That is because you never tried it. After making a promise to try never to listen again, and sticking to your word, Hashem helps you and it gets easier. I promise, it does! And the more time that passes, the less you will feel you need to.
That being said, I still missed the pleasure that the tunes of non jewish music gave me. So I reached out to a well-known Torah personality and told him of my struggle. He advised me to keep a few certain non- jewish songs that are 100% clean, and keep them close for comfort. (example, the climb, stand).
Good Luck in your quest to do the right thing. May Hashem guide you on your journey.
Be strong!