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Give to charity. You’ll start to feel better.
The only time that I think we are Commanded to eat from an Animal in Judaism is in the service of the Temple and the sacrifices, and in that case it is mainly for the preists.
I am not aware of any commandment that requires me to have chicken, lamb, veal or any other slaughtered meats. Just curius, perhaps you can instruct me otherwise.
I will say this however, I am not sure how I will get through passover as I do feel an obligation to have my mothers chicken matzos ball soup. That said, perhaps I will have matzos balls in a vegitable broth or maybe I will not keep a full true vegitarian diet. It was never my goal in life prior to recently and I make this obligation now becuase I see true health benefits (less colon cancer and diverticular disease) as well as some possible personal benefits which may have some real value to me as a Jew.
Judaism is not vegitarianism. But that said, keeping a slaughter free diet is not against our way of life. In fact, I argue that it is a higher priority in that you are not consuming any blood at all. And we are told not to eat blood in the Tanakh. I dont see how this is anti-Torah at any length.
ChaBaD seems like the prince leading the pauper.
Of course, ChaBaD is all good and fine, but when you go to your ChaBaD torah classes, don’t be surprised if there are ladies who are wearing skirts above the knees and all that when you are trying to learn the Torah of Moses. This strikes me as antithecial to our faith. But that said, ChaBaD in my experience so far is busy trying to be the light to the distanced from religious life, but maybe not the light to the true orthodox.
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Think whaat you will, but anti-Torah “ideals” will not be posted here.
mw13- they are all grouped on the left, but they are not the same people. Good luck, you failed politics course 303.
I do not feel I have really given any thing up. Not anything that I didnt want to have any how. But that said, I was just in my bedroom reflecting on the once treif filled life that I once thought was clearly the future and the highest of ways of life. I have to say I was thinking of the fact that the last time I had a lobster was in 2000. I used to really like crab. It was the highest of dining pleasures. I think about the children who never have or will ever have that and I admit it makes me feel quite cultured on one hand but quite contaminated in the past on another.
So its good to keep kosher. I just can not say that is really giving anything up. But get this folks, I have decided this past shabbas that I am going to go one step further and be a vegitarian. I admit it is not on the Jewish calling card per se, but I finally realize through some reading of other vegitarians that it is a higher way of ethics and I have also deemed it to be the only way that you can truly not eat the blood of another animal. So thats it from here out. But that said, I will continue eating fish, eggs and milk products.
Please inform me of your sophisticated language and tell me what a “vantz” is supposed to refer to.
Criminals come from ALL ranks. Have we forgotten Bernie Madoff and others?
Giving up certain musical pleasures is not FRUM, its self denial. You can live an ascetic life if you want. But for me, I did it a while and it is not my life.
To: Derech HaMelech-
Differences among our people are what make us a stong people. Noone wants the world to be exactly the same from person to person. In fact, your community should be glad to have someone like a BT in their community. Whereas you had Torah in your crib, this person had to actually find Torah in the world somewhere far from where she (or he in other peoples cases) were raised. This is a huge blessing. So if she has questions and wants to konw a minhag, be friendly and teach. But if your minhag makes no sense other than to your insular way of life, perhaps its not TORAH.
What you should realize is that in some of these ultra religious communities, there are those who hold fast to popularity and approval. That does not mean that they dont hold Torah high, but sadly they do not hold fast to Torah in the same way. If you are in a community and you hold fast to Torah, there is no “us and them”. You may have come from a different upbringing, but you are a jew at heart. So if you are getting “us and them” without reason or right conjecture, you are getting not Torah but praise for their own popularity in their own communities. And suffice to say, many people like their popularity and want to keep it that way.
600- How about the disabled and sick. Do they want to stay home all day and “make children”? The disabled have no opportunity and they have a day of less than their interests due to their previous capacities. But by your ideas, noone except the high wage workers should enjoy prosperity and independance. The child of your “welfare” mother today may grow up to be your doctor, attorney or president of tomorrow. Do not scorn the human right to procreate.
There is no such thing as a “neb” “nebbish” or “nebach” by Torah Definitions. This is ambivalent colloquialism that has sadly permeated out Jewish communities and is quite discriminatory.
Torah defines the underserved portion of our communities as indigent, poor, wicked, foolish, disgruntled, ambivalent, unorthodox, wretched, petty, childless (and that is not a derogatory thought), pain stricken, evil, narcissistic, discheveled, unworthy, sick, ridiculed, spent, tasteless and likely many other ways. Calling someone a nebbish makes you the “nebbish” in my eyes. I will never use that disgusting and dirty way of describing a human being who has some worth.
Sad that our communities that are so cohesive have such an ugly way of talking when we have Torah to guide us instead.
Raising taxes on the poor? Are you nuts? That is like burning down your own home. This is not the way that a civilized society engages. Rather, employ better teachers, build your community. Then you wont have “murderers from the low wage earners”. And if you deny people opportunity, you will have discontent.
The ones to pay the share of our taxes are the high wage earners. Living in America has given them all the opportunity to earn the proceeds that they have. They must return this money to our population so that we dont have “murderers and discontent people” in any of our communities. But I know your idea wont resonate with any of the educated and intelligent voters.
I gave up not anything of any trouble to me when I became more religious. True I did not eat any further treif. That was a good thing.
But that said, what I’ve gained is so great.
I also have started listening to music I never liked before and even watching TV cartoons once in a while. And I mean things like hard rock alternative music today. Its not anything that I dont think my Creator wants me to hear.
I have stopped watching movies, but its not becuase I am religious its just because they are a total waste of time.
What is Gelilah? “Reserved for the most pathetic person in the synagogue… an older unmarried male…????” Sounds very discriminatory to me. You aren’t going to be a Torah Jew if you discriminate and make the older unwedded males or other minority feel ashamed. This is not the Torah that I know.
This antiliberalism is G-dless and pagan. All of you who bash liberalism when its really the pacificism and the permissivism that you hate should be ashamed of yourselves. You are using liberalism as a scapegoat. I have never seen true liberalism as a real problem. The problems are pacifism and permissivism and these are constantly rung up as liberalism today.
Comparing a permissive policy with a liberal policy is like comparing goats to horses.
Sorry to all you people who hate the idea of liberalism. A short sentence is not liberal. IT is permissive. This is permissisivsm. This is not liberalism. Get your facts right.
Giving money is not “giving up”. When you give you form a connection in your soul with the party that you are giving to. You actually gain alot more than you think you “lose”.
I did not know that but I liked that if I want to see a commentary that I entered a comment on, I can view my profile and then I can see any conversation that has been posted and elapsed on the list.
If you think that we don’t mourn gedolim today, I will suggest to you that you are living on another planet. We have at least 3 big Jewish news sources which are orthodox that post the names and information on all gedolim online. I would have never known of any of these people had it not been for vosizneias, ywn and matzav. I suggest you try again as there is a big movement in our peopel who are recalling the deaths and yahrzeits of our gedolim today. I don’t think we can ask for more in this age. But that said, mourn of course, but don’t spite our people every time there is a tragedy. You do not know Hashems will any more than you do when a Torah scroll falls from the ark.
This is no different than the Jew who goes to the christians and says he believe in Mr. J-man. That is about how much antisemitism is dispelled. They want the destruction of our entire people.
Dumbest thing they could do. They will make Osem popular and noone will care about their cause. Actually it works for us. But they are foolish freaks that will not see the light of heaven in a short time. Thats for sure.
I have no intent to pray for better weather. This is mother nature.
Hmm. I have no idea why you did not post that last commentary but in doing so, my previous comment about “doing no harm” makes no sense at all.
Thanks moderators,
What I am saying to this counselor is that he should regard his job as strengthing and improving the intelligence of his young camper. He can not control what she may carry with her or her proclivities which will likely be lifelong until she really finds some true repentance for her commentary, but that said, at 13 these children are going to be so marginal in their interests and their activities that we can only hope to be a good guide. To make her want to be ashamed is really not going to be productive, but ideally you might want to make her think of Hashem and make her try to think of considering what G-d wants for her rather than how she thinks she sees the world. If you can help her in this way, you have been very successful. But I dont think you are going to need to contact her parents over a photograph although I will say that her conduct is slightly overly free and that her thoughts are slightly in the flirty nature. She is a young kid and your job is to guide her and answer her with a leadership and G-dly interest rather than scorn and make her feel poor and inappropriate. If she is egregiously impolite or inapproptiate, deal with it by discussin it with an upper level counselor or advisor. There is always the “chain of command”.
This means I am committed to “first do no harm”.
If you think you have the ‘right’ to be disapointed and write an article about it, I ask you, do I have the right to be disapointed that this is a topic I have to think about and consider in my day as well.
I am sure that you had a right to want to hear a particular shiur, but if someone wants to teach you another topic, be glad if you can.
Personally I would go to the dinners. Food is good and so is good company.
True kiruv begins a long lifelong relationship. Don’t expect to hit and run kiruv by saying “go to Aish” and be done with it. Get their email and being a lifelong relationship with someone you want to invest upon your friendship and your knowledge of Torah. This takes a long time and no religious person is created by a hit and run experience with any other yid unless its an extreme case and they were looking to be observant in the first place. Just a thought for you.
Sometimes the strongest Kiruv you can do it not to share the information such as AISH with the prospective lesser observant Jew but to simply be a strong example of a person that they can put their trust into and that they can see as a person who follows Hashem. Don’t expect every non observant Jew to become observant over night and go to Aish and the like for their immediate time after they meet you. In fact, you can have the opposite effect of being annoying and create resentment if you push this on them. Wait until they are ready and are indeed asking for more information. In the mean time, let your light shine and let them know that your way is healthier, more stabile and has G-ds blessings. They might figure it out and if they dont, they will still know you as being strong and intelligent and no matter what they may say or do, they will never be able to topple this impression. That is what Kiruv REALLY is about.
Well I can edit the profile. but I did not know that that information was publically available as I can not seem to figure out how to look up someones profile yet.