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Always Act: I debated whether to respond or not. My issues were chosen to demonstrate things about Trump that any rational person should be offended by and do indeed all have long term ramifications. The big picture is having someone who acts primarily out of ego. Otherwise, yes it is disjointed but not random, and I don’t believe these issues are at all irrelevant at all in the big picture. One response is to say that it is irrelevant and doesn’t need a response as you advocate. My perspective is obviously different.
crazyK right, yes Musk made nice with BB. But, he has a long history of “liking” anti semitic leaning tweats, he encouraged Germany to forget the past, he advocated for a party in Germany that is ostracized. He advocated against German laws governing free speech and holocaust deniers. He knew what he was doing and I don’t see that I have an obligation to assume otherwise.
He stood back and let the heroic Kurds be slaughtered. He allowed and encouraged the capital to be swarmed by madmen and advocated for the murder of his vice president. He placed his well dressed famously Jewish son in law in charge of most everything and provoked a lot of resentment among the goyim. Anti Semitism on the left came out like never before (yes, I know it was there, and yes I do blame him for bringing it out faster and sooner). In the new term, he pressured Israel to take the very same deal that Biden/Blinken had wanted without success until Trump exerted pressure, because America is now (now is not forever) the bully on the street, he is irreparably harming our alliances for no good reason, he is making a victim country into an aggressor, he is employing and hanging around and giving positive feedback to the loony anti Semitic right, he is insisting on absolute allegiance with no room for principled objection, he is questioning prior agreements which will forever make America a less reliable partner, he is not protecting good people (Bolton) because he was criticized by him, he is insisting on taking over countries that no one cares about, he is attacking all of his old enemies out of spite alone, he wants to rename places on the map by himself and punishing news organizations who refuse, he is an egotistical unprincipled nightmare. He sets a new low in morals and character. He is likely the beginning of the end for this country. More?
87: Fair enough. I appreciate your point of view. The question is one of the metsias only. Is this an emergency to the extent that further forward thinking cheshbonos are made irrelevant, and is it clear that this is the only and best option? If so, you are right. Each person needs to make their balance based on their best effort to rid themselves of their emotional and cultural biases.
UJM; I think you are mistaken. Just last week, he again stated that he doesn’t know if he wants to honor his NATO agreements, and indeed although he is an expert at speaking bilaterally, he clearly sympathizes more with the Russians. To berate Zelenksky for hating Russia, to claim that Zelensky is responsible for starting this, to bemoan loss of Russian lives as though it is morally equivalent to loss of Ukrainian lives, (Would we say “what a tragic loss of life to the Germans and the Jews”, lhavdil? I don’t know what to tell you.
Always Ask: One need not engage in comparison to recognize the harm that Trump is causing the Republican (and Democratic) parties. We want to preserve a Republican party we can support in confidence. Right now, there are so many weirdos inhabiting it (i.e. one of many: MTG) that the party has become quite ineffective in that there is more than one party in one that it becomes difficult to legislate. It may mark the end of the GOP, or at least the party as we know it. The only solution is to make it a totally extreme maga party and that is not one that we will like nor am I convinced that there is a majority in the country that would go for that. It could actually end up with a Democrat pluraity. We make a mistake when we imagine that the religious right are people we can rely on. I could elaborate but this is not the forum. Further, since it is OK to hate Trump then anything he supports is fair ground. He is not the candidate for a Pro Israel spokesman. He actually harms the cause. Trump has actually spread up the radicalization always dormant on the left as well. Were it not for how repulsive it, the anti Israel lobby on the left would not have emerged as fast as it did. Ultimately, sleaze doesn’t appear unless there is a vacuum in our avodah that allows it, so debatably the conversation is merely rhetorical. But regardless, even if you were to argue that the choice is between which is worse, frankly both are horrible. Never before has anti Israel views had such superstar power on the maga right. Personally, I am not convinced that the anti semitic left is worse. But, why go there?
Crazy K. So refreshing, Trump has normalized the lunatic right. Carlson sitting next to him during nomination. Elon has a history of endorsing weird conspiracy stuff. Doesn’t know who David Duke is. Has lunch with Fuentes by accident. The immigration zar has a history of unknowingly going on Nazi podcasts. The defense spokeswoman has a history of antisemitic posts. The GOP is being ruined by him. JD a not so secret isolationist who will talk the talk but not help with finances. And Trump is such a despicable caricature that he has made it PC to hate Jews because of his ridiculous movies of hanging out in Gaza with Netanyahu. All of this is major. “But his policies are good!” First, that is not always true. Second, the other issues are nothing to overlook. Rachmanas.
UJM: Look at what you wrote just some time ago. He is taking Russia’s side. He is threatening leaving NATO. The Tarrifs are not “just a threat”. This is the problem that I am referring to. We have trouble seeing him for what he is.
Chaim is right. Seriously one benefit of Biden was that we could ignore him. But with Trump we are supposed to be beholden to him. Why do we assume that he has our interests and will negotiate something we like rather than to simply continue his pattern of accomplishing something whatever it is that he can brag about? Once again, when we place our faith in anything else, as so much of our community is in fact doing, it is a sign that something is very wrong regardless.
I am fairly certain that if this came from Biden Bliken you would not say this is amazing. You need to determine for yourself if you’re being biased by your wanting to believe that Trump is super good. Remember this is the exact same package they recommended in Israel turned down until Trump turned up the pressure.
Look at Vance. He is just like Vivek. “Sure I support Israel but not one penny to help them.” An isolationist. Pray for Trump’s health, Vance is worse. Look at Rubio and Graham. See how quickly they turned their back on Ukraine after getting the message from Our Leader. No one has any morals. Don’t rely on Trump. Don’t rely on Vance. When we rely on them, Hashem takes away his own hashgacha. Look at what Trump made Netanyahu accept? Biden didn’t have the leverage. Trump did. Trump’s video on Gaza makes people hate Jews and Israel. Because it’s ok to hate trump, it’s ok to hate Israel. He surrounds himself with sleazy anti semites like Tucker, etc. He has normalized the anti semites. Be careful before you assume, he is good for the Jews.
More sad than Trump is the fact that so many otherwise same people have been utterly brainwashed. If this were Biden they would be all over him. It’s so sad to see our community mostly brainwashed. Rip GOP.
Very well articulated.