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huju,
“Peyos and tzisis are not expressions of “Jewish pride.” They are fulfillments of mitzvos. Period. And “Jewish pride” is an egregious, misplaced emotion. Tznius is about humility, not “Jewish pride.””
The OP is not talking about just having peyos and tzitzis, but the very public display of them and going beyond the minimum (e.g., long tzitzis, long curly peyos) in a place where that is not common. Also, what do peyos and tzitzis have to do with tznius?
Avi K,
“As for working only with and for YEHUDIM (let the creole German rest in peace), make aliya.”
Because there certainly is no prejudice against people wearing Chareidi garb in the Israeli workforce…
Exhibit A: You can’t even tolerate a single word of Yiddish. Doesn’t bode well for cultural acceptance.
Avi K,
Have you ever received any help from your parents or others? If so, then get off your haughty perch. Nothing in zahavasdad’s story indicates that the husband and wife are not working. Financial independence is important, but nobody starts out financially independent, and you cannot simply flip a switch to get it. It takes hard work and time.
mik5,
It seems like you already have some opinions on this: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/how-to-remain-a-ben-torah-after-leaving-kollel/#post-1329039
As far as how to dress when being reprimanded, I think one should dress just as he does every day at the office. Accept responsibility and apologize where appropriate, and be prepared with a plan of action to remedy the situation and prevent future occurrences.
RebYidd23,
That’s beginning to blur the boundaries between knish and kreplach, and I think that’s forbidden by the Torah.
They taste different to me. Round knishes are more like mashed potatoes with a crust. And they can get filled with things like beef, or broccoli. Square knishes are crispier, and usually not adulterated.
Meno,
Square or round ones?
“1. cant eat gebructs”
Has Celiac disease, got it.
“2. he has to take his plate into the kitchen to clean them after the friday night seudah.”
Ability to turn 1 plate into more than one, in other words clumsy, got it.
“3. he has to wear his hat and jacket”
Not a clothing thief, got it.
“4. he must know shas”
Know, or know of?
“5. his tatty must be rich”
His father is happy with what he has, got it.
“6. his name has to be either moishe or yanky.”
But he can’t have both of those names, got it.
DovidBT,
What if it had been raining?
In CTLAWYER’s town, rain only falls at night, when nobody is out driving. This was enacted by a town ordinance back in 1978.
DaasYochid,
Tell me, do you happen to post under any other screennames? How many times has the YWN admin needed to Ctrl Alt Del to restart his server because of your ubiquitous posts adding your 2scents everywhere? Be a mentch1, Uncle Ben, and give Health (or should I say Meno??) my regards.
Little Froggie, I mean, Avram in MD.
PS – the biggest risk from eating contests is choking
Eating contests are extremely dangerous and should not be done.
Gadolhadorah,
“one has to wonder whether it might not be more respectful and create considerably less confusion to use the Rav’s actual name.”
More respectful? Don’t know. Less confusing? Perhaps. But then it would be less fun!
Gezuntheit!
1. Coffee grounds added to compost make a good fertilizer
2. You can share it by bringing it into your office or Yeshiva coffee room (too bad you can’t bring it here)
3. Coffee cake
4. Drink 7 cups a day
5. Feed it to Joseph’s dogs (kidding – don’t do this)CTLAWYER,
“There is no history of damage/accidents in our High school parking lot.”
Oh yeah? Well in MY town, every Thursday children get free rides on flying unicorns in the park. And if a banged up car remains overnight in my town, by morning it looks miraculously like new. Sometimes it even transforms into a later year model.
Joseph,
“No, I’m proposing the law be consistent. Either allow insurance carriers to discriminate premiums based on gender and race or disallow either.”
Discriminating directly based on race would be a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but that law and subsequent amendments do not address gender. However, auto insurance companies do indirectly discriminate based on race: they charge different rates by zip code, and predominantly minority zip codes tend to have much higher rates than predominantly white zip codes.
sissel613_,
“Seriously???”
No, not at all.
CTLAWYER,
“The average 17 year old at the public high school is driving a BMW 3 series or Audi A6.”
High school parking lots are where cars go to become transformed into golf balls. The body shop owners in your town must be millionaires.
Joseph,
“Isn’t it strange that state laws allow insurance companies to discriminate auto insurance premiums based upon gender but not based upon race?”
Health insurance used to charge women higher premiums than men, until Obamacare made it illegal to do so. Are you proposing new Federal regulations of the auto insurance industry… Obamacar?
square root of 2,
“why would we be instructed (by the torah, as catch yourself so brilliantly pointed out;” a halachic principle”, to quote the pearls of DY) to, in essence, ignore that very concept that the world is actually being created every moment, and act as if it’s autonomous?”
Doesn’t the very fact that the Torah has to instruct us to make this assumption a priori rather than leaving it as an unspoken empirical assumption speak to the fact that Hashem is constantly sustaining the world?
I think the idea that “scientists” group together in a vast conspiracy is pretty funny. Scientists in general are fiercely competitive, territorial, and love to knock competitors’ research whenever they can.
Forshayer,
“The look of unbridled love that one gets from a wife or child when he is their best friend.”
Do you really equate the love of a spouse or a child to that of a dog?? I’m 100% fine with dog ownership, as long as the dog owner recognizes that what he has is a dog, not a miniature fur-covered human being.
Ctrl Alt Del,
“I’m so done…….”
I think this is becoming your signature line on this thread 😉
Also, you do realize that Toi was responding sarcastically to the OP, right?
CTLAWYER,
I like minivans and vans, and so does my wife. And if I drove a Jaguar sports car or a super-luxury car around town, I think my face would be beet red. To each his own.
TheWizard,
“Is it hashkaficaly appropriate that when the husband and wife go out together with the car or minivan”
Car or minivan, husband should drive. Anything bigger (e.g., 12 passenger Ford Transit, Nissan NV, etc.) wife should drive. This is because of Toi’s point. The stinky driving, which is a liability in small vehicles, becomes an asset in larger vehicles, since people will move out of the way and you will get to your destination more quickly.
Mammele,
“yet water usage is part of a cycle as well, which still doesn’t prevent these wise environmentalists from warning us not to consume too much water even in places with ample water supply.”
Is there a big push in the NYC metro area to conserve water? If so, is the reason based on supply/environmental factors, or economic/infrastructure considerations?
Health,
“The purpose of EN is to provide a female presence in the case of childbirth. Most cases of childbirth are not life threatening, No matter how the posters demand that they are. So the creation of EN makes sense.”
I understand, and agree with you. Thank you for this explanation. To go a step further, if EN could field a team of certified nurse midwives to provide in-home prenatal care and attend planned homebirths, that would seem to be a fantastic potential resource for the frum community.
Joseph,
“What’s climate change, or even societal population growth as a general matter, have to do how much population growth a particular city experiences?”
Hashem created Earth as a place for humans to live, and gave us dominion over it – i.e., we can change it and shape it to suit our needs. Building cities and farms, utilizing its resources, etc. By cities, we can clearly recognize the need for planning and smart usage of resources (space) in order to provide benefit for as many people as possible. I’m contending that we should view the Earth as a whole in the same way. Thus, using that moshol, excessive carbon released into the atmosphere is equivalent to congested traffic.
The philosophical distinction as I see it is this: the secular environmentalists see Earth itself as more important than humanity, thus if carbon emissions are changing things, humans are a problem and must be stopped. In contrast to this, I believe that Hashem gave humans the privilege to use Earth for sustenance, enjoyment, and for increase. Therefore, carbon emissions are a bad thing only if they can cause a negative impact for humanity. Both philosophies are capable of addressing climate science, but the ideas and policies that could potential flow from them are very different.
Mammele,
“One of the problems we Frum Yidden have – or should have – with environmentalism is their logical conclusion against population growth. If one believes carbon dioxide is bad for the environment, there’s no way to escape this conflict. We can’t simultaneously believe that we need to reduce our carbon footprint yet actively increase our numbers.”
This is a good point about the current state of policy debate with respect to our response to climate – and an example of why I feel it’s important to make distinctions between the climate science itself, which is politically neutral, and the policies proposed by people with their own biases. I personally see your inescapable conflict as a false dilemma. City planners who try to develop the urban landscape to mitigate traffic congestion as the population grows are not lacking faith in Hashem, nor advocating for a cessation of city growth. I see this problem as city planning on a larger scale. We should be smart about how we use our resources, because we want to create a great quality of life for as many people as we can. And when we’ve optimized resource usage as much as possible and it’s still not enough for our children, it’s time to move to the suburbs or grow the city! Hashem created a vast universe beyond Earth that is full of resources. I personally don’t believe that a need for population control must be part of any plan to try to create an environment that is optimal for a thriving humanity.
ubiquitin,
“for example while in NY 2017 ma yhave been a colder than average year”
It was actually the 10th warmest year for New York statewide since 1895 (123 year period), despite the sharp cold snap to end the year.
Little Froggie,
“Again, you got me wrong. They have an agenda. And NOTHING will get in their way. It’s hot today? – that’s the global warming at play. It’s cold today? That’s the global warming at the cooling cycle. It’s really hot, you just don’t realize it. The weather changed? That’s the issue. Unbiased, honest, I say!!!”
Who is “they”? A climatologist would not make such silly claims. They are looking at decades, not days.
DaasYochid,
“Are you two talking to each other, or over each other’s heads?”
We’re parallel pontificating.
akuperma,
“it would seem that davening for a particular climate might be a bet dubious, though one supposes there is no harm is asking Ha-Shem to violate the natural order.”
We daven for weather-related things that we understand are beneficial to us. As we say between Sukkos and Pesach, v’sein tal umatar livracha – we daven for a good rainy season in eretz Yisroel. And outside of the rainy season when rain would be harmful to standing crops, v’sein bracha.
square root of 2,
“I do think there seems to be a hashkafic side to whether or not scientists can be believed, as is evident from the subsequent posts.”
I think the issue is not so much whether to believe scientists within context of their field, but how much weight to give to “their” opinions outside of their field. I think most of the rage on the right against climate science has nothing to do with climate science per se, but with political and economic policy. Much of the anger towards Hawking, likewise, was due to his athiestic pronouncements and stances on Israel where his knowledge and intelligence was no better than the next guy’s, not his research on black holes.
Little Froggie,
“You totally missed my point. When some bright scientist can claim that some oxyhyperflorurobihydronation in the hypershpheric region of the iosphere causes our weather to get hotter, and then tomorrow claim that the oxyhyperflorurobihydronation in the hypershpheric region of the iosphere causes out weather to get cooler and then claim that oxyhyperflorurobihydronation in the hypershpheric region of the iosphere causes out WEATHER TO CHANGE!!! is when we need to get a hard look at our UNBIASED, HONEST scientists!!!”
The problem with your point is that you are completely making it up. Not just the fake science words, but the notion that climatologists have flip-flopped. This notion came from some magazine in the 1970s that was likely responding to the fact that particulates – dirty stuff that gets put into the air – causes less sunlight to reach the ground. This is totally unrelated to carbon dioxide (CO2 – CO is carbon monoxide), water vapor, etc. acting as greenhouse gasses. Particulate pollution has dropped quite a bit over the U.S. and Europe during the past few decades (your mommy dealt with a lot more smog than you do), but CO2 continues to increase.
Presidential candidates aren’t the only ones who have to deal with inaccurate, sensationalized media. Ask your doctor how many times he’s rolled his eyes over some crazy medical claim made in a magazine based on research the author didn’t understand.
Health,
“Question – Did you vote for Trump?”
Give me two million dollars and I’ll tell you who I voted for!
“If not, why are you quoting his absurd comment?!?
He is an actor – not everything he said is 100% truthful.”Of course he was pandering to his base when he tweeted that. I included it as an example that opposition to vaccines is coming from different parts of the political spectrum.
akuperma,
” In America there are regional accidents, though mid-western (mid-Amerca) became standard as a result of the civil war (when someone from Illinois accepted the surrender from a Virginian)”
I don’t think this is quite accurate. Lincoln himself spoke with a distinctive Kentucky twang. I think the “American Standard” dialect developed conceptually more in the 20th century with suburbanization (middle class whites eschewing regional accents perceived to be associated with poor inner city areas, and favoring accents more similar to Anglo-Saxon residents of the interior Northeast and Midwest), and television and radio broadcasts that adopted the same. A possible Civil War connection may be the association of Southern accents with stereotypes of poverty and slowness, due to the extensive poverty in the South following the war. Regional accents in the Northeast were likely associated with poverty due to the high number of new immigrants in the early 20th Century.
Avi K,
“I have noticed that many posts are written half in Creole German. Is this normal English?”
It is for many Jews!
Children are messy by nature, and the typical child adult ratio in an Orthodox Jewish crowd, particularly at events you describe, is likely much higher than other groups visiting the establishment. That’s one possible reason. Another reason: Packaged food brought in from the outside tends to generate much more garbage than food bought on premises, so even if the in-the-can vs. on-the-floor garbage ratio is the same between Jewish and non-Jewish crowds, the sheer volume of waste may just be higher. Perhaps these factors could explain why the “entertainment center” became messier than usual during the chol hamoed event. That said, cleanliness is stressed by the Torah, and parents must teach their children to be conscientious and to clean up after themselves.
klugeryid,
So let’s just sum up this thread
Seems like a turf war between Hatzola and Ezras Nashim.
In my family, when we have called for EMS/ambulance service, we knew that going to the hospital ER was likely needed, and that time could be crucial, making driving ourselves potentially dangerous. When we’ve not been sure whether an ER or urgent care visit is needed or not and time is not yet of the essence, we first try to call our doctor to get advice. They have an after-hours answering service that pages a doctor on call – they state to hang up and call 911 if it’s a medical emergency. From what I understand, Ezras Nashim dispatches EMTs, but they don’t provide transport to the hospital, so I have a hard time ascertaining for what situations they intend to provide service. If it is simply to guarantee a frum female presence on the first responding medical team during an emergency, then they should instruct patients to call 911 or Hatzola first, to avoid any delay in transport. If the purpose is more geared towards determining whether something can be managed at home or not, maybe that should be clarified, and instructions to call 911 or Hatzola in the event of a medical emergency should be stated?
The Great Battle of Scare Stories!
“My kid was totally healthy, but then right after he got vaccinated, he became an asthmatic diabetic on the spectrum!”
“Mom dies of freak illness that she may have gotten from an unvaccinated kid!”
This is unlikely to convince anyone. Parents who consciously choose not to vaccinate are not selfish, nor are they stupid. They are afraid, and skeptical of what they are told by authority. And this comes from both sides of the political spectrum. Conservatives don’t trust the government. Liberals don’t trust the pharmaceutical companies. President Trump linked vaccines to autism on the campaign trail, advocating against “one time massive shots.” And add on top of that a breakdown in trust between doctors and patients. If this “battle” is going to be won, it has to take place in the exam room, with a doctor actually seeing his patients as human beings, and treating them as such. Maybe even getting to know them, rather than seeing them as nuisances with too many questions taking up too much time, or as threats to his/her perceived authority. Medicine is no longer seen as מן from above, doled out by benevolent superiors who know best. It’s a marketplace, and doctors are selling goods and services to customers. Time must be taken to actually identify and address fears and concerns, relate on an emotional level, and provide clear information that empowers patient decision making, not belittling or bullying them.
DaasYochid,
Note that you should tovel the disposables too if you use them more than once.
What are “wen”? Is that the new hipster word for wimmin? I’m shocked by Joseph’s silence on this.
As long as the cotton wasn’t grown adjacent to a wheat field, you’re ok.
Eli Y,
“Now let me ask the non-Chabad folks a question if I may: What does one achieve by saying Kaddish?”
Kaddish is a public sanctification of Hashem, and by saying it, one prompts a minyan of Jews to publicly sanctify Hashem in response (y’hei sh’mei raba…). This is an extremely holy and meritorious act. To do so in the context of mourning is extremely powerful, because the mourner declares the greatness of Hashem even through his pain. Since this tremendous mitzva was done for the sake of the deceased, the merits are also added to the merits of the deceased.
Eli Y,
I have not consulted the letters myself but I am told from my Rabbi who is trustworthy that he has observed remarkable coincidence between the letter picked at random and the seekers issue.
This is why horoscopes are so popular. People can pull out from them what they desire. It may be an amazing feeling for someone to believe that they are getting miraculous, supernatural responses, but the system Hashem set up for us through His Torah was to go to a living, breathing Torah authority with our shailos. After Moshe Rabbeinu passed away, when the people sought advice, they didn’t pick out random statements that Moshe Rabbeinu made and try to fit them to the question, they went to Yehoshua!
Chabadshlucha,
Again one line out of context. You never had a feeling so deep you felt you could only share it with a very close friend?
Not out of context. This is a song about desiring a spiritual connection, and in that realm there is only one very close friend that we can connect with: Hashem. A rav or rebbe, no matter how holy, serves to help us strengthen that one connection, not to make one in addition to or in the middle of it.
Sechel HaYashar,
“What the rebbe wants of me?”
“A Rebbe, in any Chassidus, is a Moreh Derech, someone who instructs you how best to live your life. This is not unique to Lubavitch. I’m sure Litvaks have such a concept too.”
I do hold that my rav is a moreh derech for me, because he helps me to clarify what Hashem wants from me. My rav is also very dear to me. At the end of the day, however, my focus when working on my life’s goals should be on Hashem exclusively, and the words I use and the songs I teach my children, should reflect that. If my rav heard me or my children singing a song about angst over what he (the rav) wanted from me, he’d be terribly upset and correct me at once. I imagine that the Lubavitcher Rebbe, ZT”L, would have felt the same way.
Health,
If your goal is to advocate for the frum population to make a healthier lifestyle (e.g., healthier eating habits and increased exercise), it would be good salesmanship to avoid anything that may sound like a knock against frum culture.
Also, I think the ads you mention skew more towards younger people because their deaths R”L are usually unexpected, and therefore there is a higher chance that there wasn’t a completed plan of support for their dependents. I don’t think we can derive statistics from those ads. Also, the causes of death cited in those ads tend to be things like cancer or accidents, not obesity related disease.