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July 11, 2012 5:32 am at 5:32 am in reply to: Who Are The Most Liberal Posters in the Coffee room? #888282Avi KParticipant
Anybody more liberal than me is an extreem Leftist and anybody less liberal thanm e is an extreme Rightist.
July 11, 2012 4:59 am at 4:59 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006477Avi KParticipantCoffee and Zahava’s Dad, there are two general (each country has its own dialect) types of Arabic: street Arabic and literary Arabic, which is spoken by the elites and is almost unintelligible to the mases (a professor of Arabic went to the Arab market after the Six-Day War and tried to speak to one of the vendors. He said “I don’t speak English”).
As for the Hebrew of the Eidot HaMizrach, most experts on the subject, as welll as Rav Kook, hold that the Yemenite pronunciation is closest to the original.It is certain from various soureces that thte tzaddi, for example, was actually a hard “s” as some of them pronounce it.
July 10, 2012 8:29 am at 8:29 am in reply to: Responsibility to serve – without the politics #884295Avi KParticipantHealth, the evil kings did far worse things than any Israeli PM but they had the din of kings. Achav and Omri were among the worst yet they merited the kingship, Achav because he honored the Tora (and the Israeli government honors Tanach quiz winners and gives stipends to avereichim), Omri because he added a region and cities to EY (Sanhedrin 102b).
Somebody has to do it. Now that the Chareidim are becoming so large they will also have to take some part. This is also for their own good as it is manifest that only a small portion are built for all-day life-long learning. The result of the current system is that many guys get into trouble or just walk about aimlessly (check out Geula and Mea Shearim during seder hours) to the detriment of the Cahreidi public.
Avi KParticipantFrom the Free On-Line Dictionary:
adj. Slang
Warm and comfortable; homey; folksy: “It is very gentle and sweet up here. It’s . . . sort of haimish” (Janet Malcolm).
[Yiddish heymish, from Middle High German heimisch, from Old High German heimisc, from heim, home; see tkei- in Indo-European roots.]
July 9, 2012 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006448Avi KParticipantPoster, what about Sepharadim and the Eidot HaMizrach? Hebrew unites all of Am Yisrael.
July 9, 2012 6:36 am at 6:36 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006445Avi KParticipantChoppy, Ben-Yehuda was not the leader of the Zionists. Different groups had different leaders. Moreover, there is evidence that he did teshuva at the end. He went to ask Rav Kook about the meanings of some words in the Gemara (so we see that Rav Kook helped rejuvenate Hebrew) on an erev Shabbat. Rav Kook told it that it was time for him to do teshuva and he said “maybe”. He died the following day.
July 9, 2012 6:30 am at 6:30 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006444Avi KParticipantCG, “one of the largest”? Is that like P. T. Barnum’s “world’s tallest midget”? Why isn’t it accepted to go to Chevron? Does your group hold that it belongs to the Arabs? Apparently you have widened yur view to include all of EY.As for me, among my People I sit.
Avi KParticipantMDD, your seifa erases your reisha. The shiur of talmud Tora is keriat shema twice daily (Menachot 99b). In fact, Hashem aslos cries on one who canot learn but learns Netziv says (Heemek Devar Devarim 10:12) that diferent people have different jobs in Olam HaZeh. Some must devote their lives to learning, others to public service, others to regular jobs. A person who is in one group is almost forbidden to do the job of someone in another group. How does one know? By trial and error. If he learns for a while in high school and sees that he does not have what it takes or if he needs to do other things as well he should not go into yeshiva gedola.He is not only wasting himself and not doing his personal job but also wasting resources that could go for those who have futures as talmidei chachamim.
Choppy, Shammai lived during the time when EY had a puppet government – which had an army. Rashbi lived under an occupier and would have been very happy with an army that would have been able to throw them out (see Shabbat 33b after he left the cave for the second time). The Rambam, the Chatam Sofer and the Chafetz Chaim lived in Galut and relied on Goyish armies (although the CC advocated military service so that Jews would know what to do when we got our own state).
Avi KParticipantYekke, how much a person has to learn is a big discussion. The Baal HaTanya says what you say but most say that it depends on the person’s abilities. Most don’t have the ability to sit and learn for an extended period of time but must be doing things. Or work or the Army or getting into trouble. Because the Chareidi establishment does not allow the first two they do the last.This is a big problem and thus there is a movement from the rank and file to change the diskette as we say in Israel.
July 8, 2012 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006436Avi KParticipantCG, the incidennt I described in fact happened in Bene Beraq but I am also an observer of the Yerushalkayim scene. Ltvaks speak Hebrew or English (there is a large immigrant population)except for a few who are old enough to have learnewd with European-born rabbanim. Chassidim are divided.Most speak Hebrew but some, especially in Mea Shearim speak Yiddish for political reasons.In any case, one can easily get along in either city without knowing a word of Yiddish.
July 8, 2012 4:42 am at 4:42 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006429Avi KParticipantEnglishman, The Litvaks in Israel speak Hebrew. I once was waiting in a governent office with an older immigrant from Russia and a Litvak. The Russian addressed him in Yiddish and he had a very difficult time trying to answer.
Avi KParticipantGoq, it was more than stupid. You took Hashem’s name in vain (Rav Ovadia is even machmir on “oh my gosh”).
Avi KParticipantChoppy, you are wrong. A milchemet reshut must be declared by a the Great Sanhedrin (but there is no need for declaration by a navi).However, there is no such need by a milchemet mitzva (Rambam Hilchot Melachim 5:2).
As for establishing a state, on the contrary, it is an absolute obligation as stated explicitly by Ramban in his Sefer HaMitzvot (and some say Rambam does not mention it because it is included in other mitzvot or basic to the Tora as he explains in the Shorashim).
Regarding the Army, it depends. If everyone is needed everyone serves (Rambam Hilchot Melachim 7:4). If not, there can be exemptions for people who are really learning (and just registered). It might even be possible to make do with a volunteer army. This is something which can only be decided by security experts -and both Rav Moshe and Rav Soloveichik said explicitly that they are the “poskim” on security matters.
Avi KParticipantChoppy and Derszogger, the exact citation is 560:25. This is what he says:??? ????? ???”? ??? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ??.
Only songs with immodest content are prohibited.He does not mention niggunim without words although if the tune will remind a person of the filthy content that would obviously also be assur even just for himself (as the MB goes on to say).
July 6, 2012 10:27 am at 10:27 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006415Avi KParticipant??? ??? ?? ?”?
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July 6, 2012 10:26 am at 10:26 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006414Avi KParticipantHealth, I find it interesting that you curse during parashat Balak.
July 6, 2012 10:16 am at 10:16 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006413Avi KParticipantEnglishman, hundreds of thousands? I do not suggest that you give up your day job.
Mamin, I come from EY but because of the Romans I spent 33-1/2 in NY.
July 6, 2012 4:45 am at 4:45 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006406Avi KParticipantHealth, let the dead language (if it’s a language) rest in pieces (considering all of the different dialects). Speak the language of the Hebrewman, the living language of a living people.
July 6, 2012 1:41 am at 1:41 am in reply to: what is your worst language? what's ur favorite? #1006397Avi KParticipantWe already had an anti-Yiddish thread. My favorite is Hebrew. I think it is silly to speak Yiddish. If it is a language it belongs in the Museum of Languages.
Avi KParticipantGavra, declaring the State in the face of American and British warnings (and the timidity of some of BG’s advisors) was the pivotal action. The rest was just making it official. Same with Jul. 4. The war was not won until Cornwallis surrendered on Oct. 19, 1781 – after the war turned around with French intervention (masterful diplomacy by Ben Franklin – who says older people cannot learn new professions?).
Avi KParticipantI don’t but I do have the Israeli flag on my door.
Avi KParticipantKFB, Israel’s existence obviates the old image of the Jew as a homeless wanderer (according to their theology as a punishment for not accepting their AZ). It’s existence is a source of pride that saved and is saving Am Yisrael from complete assimilation. If you connect to Israel in some way you are connecting to the organism known as Am Yisrael, which only exists in EY, despite living in one of the Lands of Tuma (as per Chazal) and, according to the Zohar by extension Tora and Hashem.You are also connecting to a part of yourself as EY is a part of us, not a foreign country.
Avi KParticipantCsar, how does he explain all of the celbrations of Hasmonean victories in Megillat Taanit? In any case, on Yom HaAtzmaut we were not only saved but ceased to be slaves to Ahashverosh.
Avi KParticipantAll Jews should celebrate Yom HaAtzmaut. Jewws in EY especially because we have all the benefits, opportunities and challenges (what’s life without challenges?) of having an independent state. Jews in the Lands of Tuma (as per Chazal) because according to many, including Rav Soloveichik and Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky, without Israel there would have been almost total assimilation due to the national depression in the wake of the Holocaust.
As for the US ID, America is a fine country and in many ways the Israel of the Goyim (this is far beyond the scope of this or any post) but it is not ours.
Avi KParticipantAkuperma, Megillat Taanit contains several dates of Hasmonean military victories as dates on which fasting is prohibited.
Avi KParticipantSomeone once theorized that the Gregorian chants were stolen from the Levi’im in the Bet HaMikdash.
Avi KParticipantJuly 2, 2012 1:37 am at 1:37 am in reply to: Frum Jews and animals: why can't they get along together? #1014834Avi KParticipantToi, as a matter of fact, there is a cat which evry so often appears out of nowhere and runs up to me to be petted. This has been going on for ten years so I have decided to name it “Gilgul”.However, I don’t understand your distinction between Yerushalmi and non-Yerushalmi cats.
June 29, 2012 10:23 am at 10:23 am in reply to: Frum Jews and animals: why can't they get along together? #1014809Avi KParticipantToi, cats generally flee when a person even looks at them, hence the expression “fraidy cat”. If a stray cat tries to rub up against you it is obviously a gilgul seeking its tikun.
June 26, 2012 1:41 am at 1:41 am in reply to: askanim and their actions on behalf of other religions #882318Avi KParticipantRSRH, in light of the Supreme Court decision in Zelman, state constitutional provisions could be interpreted to allow vouchers to be used for yeshivot.
Ready, according to what I read that the Aguda acted in concert with another major religious organization to lobby Congress and HEW with Rav Moshe’s permission. Interfaith meetings are something else. Rav Soloveichik also opposed them saying that his talmidim were lawyers not theologians. What I meant about “all or none” is that a program that benefits yeshiva students must also benefit students in other religious schools. I not, it is in violation of the Establishment clause.As for Sheva Mitzvot, as I wrote many, such as the Lubavitcher Rebbe, actually say that we are obligated to preach them.
June 25, 2012 4:39 am at 4:39 am in reply to: askanim and their actions on behalf of other religions #882314Avi KParticipantZahavsdad, vouchers which can be used for religious schools are constitutional under certain conditions (Zelman v. Simmons-Harris, 536 U.S. 639 (2002)):
1. The program must have a valid secular purpose,
2. Aid must go to parents and not to the schools,
3. A broad class of beneficiaries must be covered,
4 The program must be neutral with respect to religion, and
5. There must be adequate nonreligious options.
This might open the door for them to be in acccordance with Blaine amendments.
As for askanim acting on behalf or or in coalition with other religions, under the US Constituion it is all or none. Thus Rav Moshe allowed the Aguda to act with another religious group to lobby for Federal programs that would benefit yeshivot (leaving aside federalism questions).
So far as participating in advisory committees, there are some who interpret Rambam as REQUIRING us to try to convince non-Jews to follow the Sheva Mitzvot. Even according to those who do not require it, it is certainly praiseworthy. Again, this requires participation of other groups but there is no reason why the Orthodox representatives cannot disagree with them.
Avi KParticipantZman, the source is Hilchot Talmud Tora 1:12. He talks specifically about an artisan and says that he should work three hours and learn nine hours. However, the Netziv (Heemek Devar Devarim 10:12) says it depends on the individual’s tafkid.
Avi KParticipantI heard that the takan against gerim started in Arab countries that became French colonies. The French repealed the dhimmi laws and accepted Jews into the civil service. The Jews n turn became enamored of French culture. Rich Jews fell in love with French Goyot and tried to use their positions to pressure the rabbanim into performing pro forma “giurim”.
As to minhagim and community, a ger is free to choose so you are not bound by your father’s ancestral customs.
Avi KParticipantHealth, just because a language is written in a different alphabet does not make it different. Western European languages were written in Gothic script until about 350 years ago. German continued to use it until aout 100 years ago. Are they now different languages? What about Judeo-Arabic, etc. which everybody agrees are dialects?
You can hold that Yiddish is a different language but I can hold that it’s a jargon. Go mekadesh a woman on condition that it’s a language and then you can bring me a pesak.
Avi KParticipantHealth, I just looked it up and while sevral letters are similar there are many that are totally different – and the Bosnians, being Moslems, use the Arabic alphabet. Unfortunately, for some reason it does not copy but you can look it up again.
As for Yiddish the Wikipedia says:
Avi KParticipant“Mama” is a goyish word as in “tante” (both are found in several European languages). So apparently “mama loshon” has a non-Jewish mother.
Avi KParticipantHealth, according to #1 Yiddish is a dialect. Having a different alphabet does not make a difference. The Serbs and Croats use different alphabets but Serbo-Croatian is one language.
On the ball, how about “down with Yiddish”?
Avi KParticipantSam2, Biblical Hebrew ceased with the end of the Biblical period. Mishnaic Hebrew is somwhat different – thus Chazal speak of “lashon Mikra” and “lashon chachamim”. As with every living language Hebrew evolved during both the Biblical and Mishnaic periods and is continuing to evolve.
Avi KParticipantDaasYochid,
1. The correct analogy iss buying sifri kodesh from a publisher whose sefarim have been found to have blank pages (which happens all to often).
2. The analogy to a nazir is that a person does not have to add fences unless he has a specific problem or alternatively has reached the level of chassidut as defined by Messialt Yesharim.See also Taanit 11a,Yerushalmi Kiddushin 4:12 and Nedarim 9:1.
Avi KParticipantNaysberg, in case you haven’t noticed Ben-Yehuda (who may have done teshuva on his last day, but that is another post) has been dead for 90 years. In that time Hebrew has developed.
Avi KParticipantPresumably all these questions must be included in the shaila (assuming the person accepts the pesak, as there is no power in our time to make a gezera on all of Am Yisrael). Each case is different.
Avi KParticipantI have had very bad experiences with filters. One blocks sites with names like “Middlesex County”. Another one apparently blocks all book purchasing sites as I was unable to get into a Judaica site.
However, I agree that if someone has a problem in this area he should get a filter. However, for one who does not it is a pain in the neck (see Nedarim 9b).
Avi KParticipantThere will be a database for yuchasin.Assignments (terumat hadeshin, etc.) will be computerized so as to avoid machloket.Hakravot hakorbanot will be broadcast world-wide on the Internet.There will be shiurim by Mashiach and the Levi’im, also on the Net.
Avi KParticipantLet the dead language rest in pieces (considering all of the different dilaects).
Avi KParticipantThe interesting thing is what it says about the treatment of gabbaim.
Avi KParticipantThere are discussions regarding the extent of the definition of “position of communal authority” (sarrara). Some say it only applies to positions which are held for life and passed on to the incumbent’s son (the first is not generally true in our time and the second has never been the rule except among Chassidic rabbis). Some say the degree of honor attached to the position is what counts (interestingly among them there are those who say that a ger may be a gabbai as gabbaim are not honored).
May 17, 2012 5:59 am at 5:59 am in reply to: Words from an ex IDF solider for Yom HaZikaron #1163268Avi KParticipantAccording to Rav Moshe (Iggerot Moshe Orech Chaim 4:49) a woman may wear tzitziot if she makes a four-cornered garment which is not a keli gever. Only tefillin are out because of the requirememnt of bodily and mental cleanliness.
Avi KParticipantYmb, are you serious? Who knows why Hashem let him live. Maybe He wanted him to first sweat about when the game would be up.
As for the State, it is necessary for us to fulfill our national mission of creating Hashem’s kingdom on earth and being a light unto the Nations. This takes time. One thing is certain, neither the British nor the Jordanians would give anything to yeshivot.I do not know where you live, but frum Jews who are unhappy with the present situation but do not at least vote have only themselves to blame.
Avi KParticipantZichmich, you are the one who is haughty and arogant. An army cannot have a different pesak for each Jewish soldier. Their is an Army Rabbinate and they have the status of mara d’atra. Unless someone is (really) learning, disabled, etc.he has an absolute Tora obligation to serve. This is halacha pesuka.And FYI, in the War of Independence Chassidim served in droves and there is a famous photo a Chassidim aiming weapons. Later because of pressure they took deferments (the Vizhnitzer rebbe said so in so many words).
Avi KParticipantEverybody, including the secularists, agrees that those elite few who are really learning should get deferments. The problem is that there are many who are registered but do not really learn (in Hebrew they are called “parparim” – butterflies – because they flit around). They certainly should go into the Army. In fact, the Chazon Ish said that someone who takes a deferment but does not really learn should be reported to the military authorities. Many would probably welocme the chance as they want to do the mitzva (Rambam Hilchot Melachim 5:1) but are pressured into not serving.
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