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CTlawyer, he is your fellow Jew. That gives him the right (especially if he is over 50). Moreover, if we have the right to voice our own opinions we can also opine as to your priorities. I suggest that you heed Obama’s advice to Howard U grads. Prof. Jonathan Adler wrote in the Volokh Conspiracy that they needed to hear it (another person who advises strangers as to their priorities) and I think you do too.
CTlawyer, would you have disliked Lou Gehrig? Babe Ruth was a also likable guy albeit an unfaithful husband and a bit of a glutton. I once knew an American-born Catholic of German extraction who went ballistic whenever he heard about anti-Semitism as relatives of his were murdered for hiding Jews.
Dbrim, we have a universal message as well. Rav Kook says that we will achieve this when we are all here in EY and have a Torah state. However, if someone must live in Chutz laAretz temporarily he should consider himself an emissary of Torah as a light unto the nations. This includes prioritizing EY as the gentiles are judged by how they treat us. Not to mention the strategic value of Israel and the shared values (which is why the conservatives support us and the liberals are at best lukewarm – the former want an America based on traditional values and the latter want an Obamanation).
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Charlie, the Rema and the Chatam Sofer have mandated it. Regarding, Jews in the Politburo, there is a joke that at one meeting Trotsky whispered to Sverdlov “Throw out the goy (Stalin) and get someone else. I have yahrtzeit”. BTW, his great=grandson is frum and lives in a settlement.
DY, its use is not prohibited. It is a useless object (muktze machmat gufo) as you cannot use it on Shabbat (unless you are a Chabadnik – the Ball HaTanya allows ripping toilet paper). The reason why it can be used in a case of dire need (altouugh not ripping on the perforations) is that it is an issur d’rabbanan being that you do not care about the exact size of the paper. Kevod haberiot overrides d’rabbanans.
CTlawyer, we are discussing whether or not certain laws are good for the Jews. As for Halacha not obligating most Americans, that simply is not correct. Even the gentiles are obligated by the sheva mitzvot – and according to some, such as the Rema (Responsum 10) the obligation of dinim requires them to adopt all of Choshen Mishpat. The fact that most are unaware of their obligations is another matter.
Mdd, thank you.
CTlawyer,
1. The point is not what the law is but what it should be. regarding the brokers, IMHO if they were only acting on their own opinions even in the absence of anti-discrimination laws they would have been liable for violating their obligation to obtain the best deals. If they were representing the feelings of the community I would have been glad to discover this and looked elsewhere.
2. The question whether regarding civil unions are acceptable halachically involves whether or not an intimate relationship is implied. For example, no one objects to nominating a friend as one’s beneficiary on an insurance policy as there is no implication beyond a desire to help him financially.
Thisis an old machloket. See Sanhedrin 49a regarding David and Yoav.
Charlie, women are obligated in “lifnei iver”.
Sam, actually it might be better if they did not show up. “No man’s liberty or property is safe so long as the legislature is in session” (either Mark Twain or Gideon John Tucker). In any case, they have the right to reject a nomination. Not considering it is something like a pocket veto.
CTlawyer,
1. Oregon may be in the headlines but this is their declared national agenda.
2. Even if the celebration is in another place the baker is compelled to participate in the celebration by providing a cake. If it is a plain cake then you have a case as they are allowed to eat cake. However, putting “Congratulations on your marriage” seems to me to be compelled speech. how SCOTUS will go will depend very much on who are the justices – as Gobitis and Barnette discovered.
3. Please cite the law that obligates them to consider a nomination.
4. Refua sheleima.
CTlawyer,
1. The owner of the wedding hall is renting his property explicitly to be used for an aveira.
2. If it can force a baker to bake a cake why can’t it force someone to perform a marriage? Both are providing services.
3. Ask Oregon Judge Vance Day about judges refusing to perform same-sex marriages.
4. POTUS appoints Federal judges. In particular, there are three justices on SCOTUS who are around the eighty year old mark so the next one might well be able to setthe legal tone in America for the next generation.
CTlawyer,
1. The owner of the hall is certainly a participant. It may well be prohibited as mechazek yadei ovrei aveira. The caterers might not be as they are only selling food. In any case, as there are others who will gladly take money to participate do there is no reason not to grant a religious exception. In any case, the law is requiring them to do something – sell or provide a service for these farces.
2. We were discussing America.
3. If it can tell him that he cannot perform a ceremony (e.g. a polygamous marriage) why can’t it tell him that he must perform one. Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr. does not preclude the possibility. For that matter, why can’t it revoke tax-exempt status of a shul as with a religious university. Why can’t it stipulate that the person’s license to perform marriages will be revoked? What about religious judges as this is not one of their regular functions? On the other hand, if accomodations are made for taking off on religious holidays why not for this (Prof. Eugene Volokh once suggested this).
[sic] is short for “sic erat scriptum”, “thus was it written” in Latin.
CTlawyer,
2. Use of laws to enforce discrimination is another matter. I was referring to homeowners who do not want to sell to Jews. However, in the end, as George Jefferson said, there is no white power or black power, only green power. The fact of the matter is that there was a tremendous movement of Jews to the suburbs after WW2. Jews, as Milton Friedman points out in “Capitalism and Freedom” have flourished under free enterprise. If they were excluded from the fraternity or sorority they started their own. If they were excluded form the country club they started their own. If they were excluded from Big Law they started their own firms or went into public service. The free choice door swings both ways.
3. Secular law cannot override Halacha except in some areas of dinei mamanot where that is part of the Halacha. For example, if the US would ban berit mila it would be incumbent on Jews to disobey. If you say differently than you are making an idol out of the lawmakers. Of course, aliya is the best answer anyway but not everyone is able, at least not on the spur of the moment.
4. I was referring to Jewish Communists in America.
5. I never wrote that Trump embodies Jewish values. He also does not have to. Only Bnei Noach values. Hillary certainly does not. In any case ,the question this year is not who is better but who is worse. Of course, if the FBI recommends indicting her than the ballgame changes completely. Her “adopted daughter” Huma Abedin said tjat she would be terrified if she were in Hillary’s shoes.
CTlawyer., FYI, the Halacha sometimes requires us to discriminate. For example, a Jew who has his own business must prefer Jews in hiring. On the other hand, if the business must be open on Shabbat and Yom Tov he must seek a gentile partner. As foir neighborhoods, I personally do not understand why a Jew would want tol ive among anti-Semites. Besides, there was far less assimilation when people lived in tethnic neighborhoods. Even Jewish Communists married other Jews. Not to mention that “equal opportunity” laws gave rise to Affirmative Action – the exact opposite. So too, gay “rights” is giving way to government compulsion to participate in these “weddings”.
In any case, it is instructive to read the words of Ludwig von Mises, himself the victim of anti-Jewish discrimination:
Elsewhere he writes:
“The market does not directly prevent anybody from arbitrarily inflicting harm on his fellow citizens; it only puts a penalty upon such conduct. The shopkeeper is free to be rude to his customers provided he is ready to bear the consequences. The consumers are free to boycott a purveyor provided they are ready to pay the costs. What impels every man to the utmost exertion in the service of his fellow men and curbs innate tendencies toward arbitrariness and malice is, in the market, not compulsion and coercion on the part of gardeess, hangmen, and penal courts; it is self-interest.”
As for questionable business dealings, what about all of the Clintons’ dealings? Not to mention the fact that Hillary was fired from the Watergate committee for unethical behavior. was an accomplice to the murder of American diplomats, etc. edited
Akuperma, actually many Chareidim are going into hi-tech. Their Gemaar heads make them perfect for it. The secular are also becoming more and more interested in Judaism. Rosh Yehudi gives lectures in the herat of secualr T.A. and HaShomer HaTzair kibbutzim are opening shuls,
Mdd, Rambam says at the end of Hilchot Melachim:
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MW, some Jews will be considered “uberyidden” because they really are, either because of yi??us (cohanim and levi’im) or because of superior Torah wisdom.
It could be that there will still be questions regarding laws and monetary disputes butthey will be resolved peacefully by battei din with losers accepting defeat gracefully. Work will either be done my gentiles or by robots (the navi only says “others”).
CTlawuer, a liberal in the American context (the European/Israeli context it is more like a libertarian) is someone who wants integrated schools in Mississippi, integrated neighborhoods in Mississippi (remember the Forest Hills controversy in NYC) and freely spends other people’s money. Clinton is worse than an opportunist. She is a liar, a crook, and an enemy of Jewish rights to all of Eretz Yisrael. She was also an incompetent Sec of State who was complicit in the murders of American diplomats in Benghazi. Trump is definitely not a conservative (see Russell Kirk’s “Ten Conservative Principles”) and I have many problems with his campaign but at least his Mideast advisers have close ties to the settlement movement. As a successful businessman he hopefully will be able to pick the right people for the right jobs, delegate powers and be a great communicator.
Rav Chaim Brisker said that it is preferable, and much more difficult, to live for kidddush Hashem.
Akuperma, actually the Chareidim are already moving. Young Chareidim are joining the IDF (hence the increasing shrillness and even violence of the die-hard extremists) and the general economy. The moetzet chochmei ha trah of UTJ approved, albeuit grudgingly, sitting in the government (actually Aguda was in the first government but then they hardened their stance).
On the other hand, the RZ are becoming more oriented towards learning and are establishing NGOs and holding yamei iyun on how to run a state according to Torah. I heard from Rav Yeshayahu Shteinberger in the names of Rav Kook and Rav Soloveichik that this is the nevua of Yehezkel regarding the union of Yehuda’s stick with Yoseph’s stick/ Yehuda, who established a state within a state in Goshen represents the Chareidim and Yoseph, who was an integral part of the government, represents the RZ.
The demographics state that Israel’s future is bright. The first flowering of our redemption continues to flower.
Health, actually not having a state might be after Mashiach. According to Rambam eevryone will keep Torah without coercion so it would seem that we will be able to have anarcho-capitalism.
Churchill defended his support for Stalin ym”s during WW2 by saying that if Hitler ym”s had invaded Hell he would have at least made a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons. After WW2 he was a staunch supporter of the Cold War.
In any case, there is no such thing as a wasted vote. It makes a statement, most importantly to Hashem. Otherwise, a Republican in a deep blue state or a Democrat in a deep red state should also stay home.
From “Penyanei Halacha” by Rav Eliezer Melamed
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It would seem that according to all opinions a ben Eretz Yisrael can do actions which are only prohibited d’rabbanan, especially if no one knows that he is a frum Jew. Thus, if you wear a baseball cap and keep your tzitziot inside you can probably take a cab driven by a goy to where you are staying (or even better, if feasible, take public transportation, as being that the majority are goyim we say that it runs for them).
“Mostly truthful” – she made 10 million statements in her life and 5 million + 1 were truthful (and those 5 million + 1 include correctly stating her name, stating that Chelsea is her daughter, etc.).
Not to mention, that as Sec of State she harangued Netanyahu for forty-five minutes for daring to build in Yerushalayim. On the other hand, Trump chose as advisers two people with close ties to the settler movement. Hopefully now that he has the nomination he will move more towards mainstream conservative positions. His choice of a running mate will say a great deal.
Dave, you are correct. I read some more about him after I posted.
What about Gary Johnson? At least he will leave religious people and Israel alone. Libertarians are very consistent – people can do what they want so long as they do violate someone else’s rights so one can do toeva but one can also discriminate against someone who does it (e.g. refuse to rent an apartment or take part in a “wedding”). The Libertarian Party platform states “We would end the current government policy of foreign intervention, including military and economic aid, guarantees, and diplomatic meddling.” Morover, he has administrative experience as governor of New Mexico.
Not only the Syrians. Rav Aviner said that during the colonial period rich Jews fell in love with gentile French women and tried to pressure the rabbis into performing pro forma giurim so they made a blanket takkana. In some countries the rabbanim will not perform giurim because of possible friction with the authorities who see the state as bound up with the Catholic church.
Joseph, there are also young widows r”l. As for physical attributes, there are certain blemishes that can be a cause for divorce (see Even HaEzer 39:3 with Rambam Hilchot Biat HaMikdash ch. 8). However, love conquers all (Even HaEzer 154;2). BTW, sinister” is Latin for left-handed. On the other hand, Ehud was able to save Am Yisrael because he was left-handed.
Yehudayona, it is a machloket Rishonim if a cohen can marry the daughter of a ger and a gioret. The Mechaber paskens (Even HaEzer 7:21) to be machmir l’chatchila. This even continues for several generations (e.g. son of ger and gioret who marries gioret) until one parent is a Yisrael. Of course, if a black convert would marry a Yemenite or Malabari Jew the daughter would be black and eligible to marry cohanim according to all opinions and then there could be a black cohen.
Newbee, some families could use some color. Actually, some Ashkenazim are swarthy whereas some Sepharadim (particular from North Africa) are very fair-skinned.
DY, ask him if you can be exempt as when you are in the sukka you are thinking of his attitude and that makes you mitztaer. Ask him also how a Chassid can be mitztaer when he is supposed to always be b’simcha.
Abba, this is his exact wording:
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It comes out that he does not explicitly say to wear them, only that that was the custom in his area. Rabbi Menachem Posner, the Staff Editor of chabad.org says that their minhag is not to wear them on Chol HaMoed. You can ask him about it yourself.
Mik,
1. Who says that it is a good minhag in our day? It originated because Jews were afraid to go outside on that night as Xtians got drunk after hearing fiery anti-Semitic sermons and they were too poor to have sefarim in their homes.
2. Someone who is mitzta’er is halachically exempt from sleeping in the sukka. This is, of course, subjective. I heard that they are mitzta’er because they cannot feel the or makif (@Neville).
3. You yourself wrote that this is only the ideal. However, it is legitimate not to do so. This is why someone who forgets “retzeh” in birkat hamazon does not have to go back.
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This almost always occurs in monetary matters. In other areas the psokim attempt to show that really the minhag is in consonance with the Halacha. The reason is that a person’s money is his. He has the right to give it away if he wishes. This is extended to communities. By being part of a community one accepts monetary obligations enacted by that community.
Zahavasdad, there is one about a fish store that advertised that its fish never ate chametz. A woman phoned and asked what they ate. The owner replied that they ate smaller fish. She asked if they ate them in the water. When he said “Of course” she told him that she was sorry but she was makpid on gebruchts.
I myself once saw a package of freezer bags that was labelled “glatt”. They were very smooth bags.
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MW, so you are making a gezera on a minhag?
MW, you are correct (although it should be pointed out that Rav Yehiel of Paris disparaged it). However, it is also offensive, presumptuous, and frankly just ridiculous for anyone in any generation to look for chumrot on a minhag. Not an issue d’Oraita, not an issur d’rabbanan but a minhag. This is especially true when it comes up against issues like shelom bayit. In fact, I heard that Rav Zalman Baruch Melamed said that he would even go so far as to allow an Ashkenazi eating by a Sephardi to push aside the kitniyot and eat the rest of the food (on Shabbat push aside the non-kitniyot – don’t try to keep a minhag by doing a melacha d’Oraita).
Unfortunately, this has become a burning issue (someone once said that if “lo tignove” were a chumra on a minhag people would be completely honest) with the machmirs denigrating poskim who dare to rule leniently. The result is that many people decide that they cannot deal with almost everything being labeled “for those who eat kitniyot” despite major questions as to the halachic validity of this statement and decide to jettison the whole minhag.