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Avi KParticipant
MW,
The Rambam clearly states in Mishna Torah that there is no need for a navi or Sanhedrin in the case of a milchemet mitzva ?? ?(http://www.hebrewbooks.org/rambam.aspx?sefer=14&hilchos=83&perek=5&halocha=2&hilite=).
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??????? “????? ????? ?????”, ???? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ??????. ??? ???? ?????: “?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ????? ????” ???’, “??? ???: ?? ????? ?????? ??? ???????? ????, ??? ?? ????. ?? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ????? ????: ‘?????? ???? ?????? ???????’, ???? ??: ‘?? ????? ???” ???’. ?????: “??? ????: ???? ?? ???? ??? ??? ????? ???? ????, ???? ????? ?????? ??? ????: ??? ??? ??? ?????, ?????? ????: ??????? ??? ?????, ???? ????? ????? ???? ????; ???? ?? ??? ??”. ??? ????????? ?????? ??? ??????.
3. HeEmek Devar Devarim 17,14: http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14021&st=&pgnum=157
4. Saying that it is a mitzva to go to war is the same as saying that it is a milchmmet mitzva. No amount of sophistry will change that.
5. The point is that there was no navi in Rabbi Akiva’s time. In fact, I heard that the 12,000 pairs of talmidim who died were two groups. One went into the army and one did not. neither respected the other’s position.
6. The poskim to whom you refer were talking about those who are really learning not merely listed. I am sure that if there would be military bet midrash where they would learn for the success of the IDF like other support units those poskim would have no problem. There are also the hesder and mechina models, which could be extended to the Charedi sector. This, in fact, would save many boys who are not built for full-time learning and wind up preying on their own communities for lack of an outlet. I personally was witness to the beginnings (I ran for my life) of a rumble between the “shabab Chareidi” and the tzeniut patrol when I lived in Bnei Beraq.
7. No one has a problem with a private person supporting a bachur or anyone else he wishes to support. However, if the tzibbor is going to support someone and also release him from obligations the tzibbor has the right to make sure that they are not being cheated. In fact, Chazon Ish, Rav Shachand Rav Wolbe all condemned those who are using yeshivot to getout of the IDF but are not learning. I heard that the CI even said that they should be reported to the authorities. Rav Tzvi Yehuda Kook, as I previously posted, gave each bachur a personal pesak. Some were told to enlist and some were told not to.
DY, obviously Rav Moshe was talking about someone who has a future as a talmid chacham (see Taanit 21a).
Avi KParticipantDY,
1. I was referring to Rambam’s statements regarding a milchemet mitzva.
2. The Kesef Mishna only says that a rav who teaches others may receive payment. In any case, today he can publish books and receive royalties, receive a salary from the yeshiva, etc. Of course, if someone is receiving aid anyway because he cannot find a job, has a disability, etc. should go and learn to his ability.
Avi KParticipant147, you should learn American slang before you use it. “Frame” means to cause an innocent person to be blamed for a crime.
Avi KParticipantScared, he violated the terms of his probation for fraud.
Avi KParticipantScared, this is a new one on me. Please give details.
Avi KParticipantMW,
In Mishna Tora he clarifies that “war” refers to a milchemet reshut and “conquering cities” means outside EY. You still have not defined a talmid chacham. It is certainly not some butterfly (the Israeli slang expression) who is officially listed as a talmid but goofs off. In practice, Rav Tzvi Yehuda (Kook) gave a personal pesak to each talmid in his yeshiva. Moreover, you have not dealt with the suggestion for establishing military battei midrash whose students will be officially part of the IDF like other support troops learn for the success of the combat troops. Asfor Rav Moshe’s teshuva, with all due respect he is a daat yachid. It is also very puzzling as Rabbi Akiva and his colleagues supported Bar Kochba. Moreover, it is against Rambam, Ramban (in his Sefer HaMitzvot), the Ran and the Netziv as I previously posted.
Avi KParticipantCharlie, so you’re saying that it comes down to who looks better in an orange jumpsuit? Trump, if he violated the law (a proof of a quid pro quo is needed), is small potatoes compared to Hillary. Her rap sheet includes unethical behavior as a Watergate committee staffer, participation in the Whitewater fraud, laughing about using a technicality to get a rapist acquitted (and violating attorney-client privilege in the process), accomplice to the murders of American diplomats, endangering national security through misuse of an unsecured server
June 9, 2016 4:56 am at 4:56 am in reply to: Women only hours at a public municipal pool in Williamsburg #1158883Avi KParticipantEven better, why not privatize all of the pools and beaches? Why is this a municipal function? However, that will not end anti-“discrimination” suits, as Xtian bakers have discovered.
Avi KParticipantAY, that subject has not been broached up to now. Yes, they should be checked. In fact, IDF spies follow girls who claim to be religious and woe to the girl who rides on Shabbat or eats in a non-kosher restaurant. As for the students, athletes, artists and entertainers, the students only receive a deferment if they go into the academic reserves. After they receive their degrees they serve in their professions, mainly in technical positions. Athletes, so far as I know, are not exempted. In fact, in one famous case an athlete left the country in order to avoid the draft. Ditto artists. With entertainers you have it backwards. They are noticed and put into entertainment units boosting morale. After their service they go pro.
In any case, you are using the same fallacious argument that people who rip off government programs in the US use. Other ethnic groups do it so there is nothing wrong with Jews doing it. I once asked someone if Jews should also mug people. Of course, he did not have an answer.
Avi KParticipantSam, the most an independent can do is throw the election into the House. All that has been written about Trump is true but Clinton is just as bad. She was fired from the Watergate committee staff for unethical behavior, participated in the Whitewater fraud, caused the deaths of American diplomats and laughed about getting a rapist off scot-free by taking advantage of a prosecutor’s error (which may have been a breach of attorney-client privilege). However, Trump is in favor of building settlements and his adviser on Israel is a frum Jew who heads the American Friends of the Bet-el Yeshiva. That makes him our bum (to paraphrase FDR’s comment about Somoza).
Avi KParticipantMW,
The requirement for a Sanhedrin and Navi only refers to milchemet reshut not a milchemet mitzva (Ramban, Hilchot Melachim 5:2; Ran, Derash 11; Netziv, He’emek Devar, Deavrim 17:14; Rav Kook, Mishpat Cohen 144)
Rav Herzog (Heichal Yitzchak OC 31 and 38), the Tzitz Eliezer (3:9:10, 3:10, 7:48:12) and Rav Ovadia (Yabia Omer 10 CM 6:23 on the Entebbe operation) say that Israel’s wars have been milchemot mitva.
Avi KParticipantDY & MW,
1. Yes we do pasken that Rambam.
2. Who is a talmid chacham? Some bachur who spends half his time at the coffee corner, reading newspapers and demonstrating? If the tzibbor is going to give them a deferment the Chief Rabbinate should be the body to see if they are really learning. Moreover, if they are serious about being part of the military effort they should dedicate their learning to it seriously.
Joseph, the Rema only brings that as a “yesh omrim”. Stam v'”yesh omrim”, halacha k’stam – and what about Sepharadim? In any case, if the tzibbor is going to pay them it should be able able to make sure that it is not being cheated through audits (without warning so that there is no time to pad the bet midrash) and exams.
June 7, 2016 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm in reply to: Controversy In Israel – Woman says Sheva Brachos #1180897Avi KParticipantI asked a rav and he told me that two people should not say a beracha at once even if they are two men. I presume that that is because of “trei kallei la shaamei” (two voices are not heard) so they did not motzi the listeners. However, it probably does not possel the kiddushin. In general, berachot are not me’akev.
June 7, 2016 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm in reply to: Shaking hands with the opposite gender, in Israel #1155517Avi KParticipant5miyodeya, I wrote that if it is an “English-speaking” position being Hebrew-impaired will not make a big difference. However, if I were hiring for a position where people would have to participate in meetings and deal with Hebrew documents I would consider it a major black mark. In any case, you really should make an effort to learn and use Hebrew. Just as one who plans on living in America has an obligation to learn and use English so too one who plans to live in Israel should learn and use Hebrew.
June 7, 2016 4:38 am at 4:38 am in reply to: Shaking hands with the opposite gender, in Israel #1155512Avi KParticipantNechomah, only the French and Ethiopians do that. Israelis hug each other.
June 6, 2016 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm in reply to: Shaking hands with the opposite gender, in Israel #1155510Avi KParticipantJoseph, that in itself is an anti-Semitic comment.
Avi KParticipantHe is referring to getting a job vs. learning full-time. BTW, here is what he says about someone who wants to take welfare l’chatchila in order to learn full-time:
June 6, 2016 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm in reply to: Shaking hands with the opposite gender, in Israel #1155503Avi KParticipantActually, many non-frum Israelis know about it. In fact, the secretary in a former workplace of mine once told me that she does not extend her hand to observant men. Your rusty Hebrew is a much bigger problem unless you are interviewing for an “English-speaking job” (e.g. dealing with international business). In America someone who does not speak good English will not get a decent job except in a company owned by people who speak his first language so too in Israel.
Avi KParticipantRambam, Hilchot Melachim 5:1 and 7:4. Of course, not everyone is a combat soldier. IMHO, those who are superior learner (according to objective exams administered by the IDF rabbinate) can form a “cheil haTalmud”, learn for the success of the IDF and give shiurim (something like the mashuach milchama). See “On Yeshiva Men Serving In The Army” by Rabbi Alfred S. Cohen, available on-line.
June 5, 2016 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm in reply to: Liability question, just interested in how people see things. #1154150Avi KParticipantBlubuh, that is the chance you take when you accept a request for an estimate without asking for an examination fee (which I believe is the custom). What about a case that occurred in an office in which I worked: A repairman was called in to fix the microfilm machine. He came and saw that the only problem was that the lens was not in place. He charged $25 (almost forty years ago) for making an office call.
June 5, 2016 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm in reply to: What percentage of conservative and reform are halachically jewish? #1154411Avi KParticipantJoseph & Yehudayona, the opposite is also true. Many children who are halachically Jewish think that they are not because they are being raised in their fathers’ religions.
June 5, 2016 8:59 am at 8:59 am in reply to: What percentage of conservative and reform are halachically jewish? #1154409Avi KParticipantAkuperma, while I do not know of statistics, it makes sense that OTDs will want to preserve those aspects of their former lives that they enjoyed. Some, BTW, eventually come back (I personally know one), in some case to another stream of Orthodoxy (e.g. Chassidic to MO). As for not being distinguished from goyim, it takes several generations of assimilation to lose all of the little thinks (manner of speech, body language, etc.) that come from the national aspect that is not connected to free choice (see Rav Soloveichik, “Two Beritot”) make us distinguishable.
Joseph, I think he means the part about safek goy. However, if one holds like Rav Moshe 9an certainly at least b’diavad we do) if someone’s parents were not frum most likely the kiddushin was not valid. In fact, someone told me that before he became BT he was a witness at his sister’s wedding.
June 5, 2016 5:01 am at 5:01 am in reply to: What percentage of conservative and reform are halachically jewish? #1154406Avi KParticipantNishtdayngesheft, you are not correct. For simplicity’s sake let’s say that we start with two Jewish males and two Jewish females and that one male and one female intermarry. The children of the non-intermarried male will be halachically Jewish and all of the children of the females will be Jewish. If each has two children that menasthat 75% of their children will be Jewish. This is assuming a numeric equality between males and females. However, in the US there are .88 males for every female in the 15-64 age group. This means that a higher percentage of halachic Jews can be expected. While intermarriage rates among non-Orthodox Jews are above 50% this may well be outweighed by OTDs (approxiamately 17% of the Orthodox population).
Avi KParticipantI do not see anything wrong with giving an animal a name. If Adam haRishon gave each species its name why can’t we give them individual names? However, putting them on the same level as humans is wrong and dangerous. As for Harambe, how did the kid get into his cage? Someone was negligent. BTW, when someone’s animal dies on says ????? ???? ?? ?????? (Berachot 16b).
Avi KParticipantAkuperma, maybe it’s a chicken-and-egg issue but I think that cultural assimilation played a big role in the lessening of anti-Semitism in America. Even the Nativists did not generally espouse racial theories regarding different European peoples but feared the introduction of non-Anglo-Saxon cultural and political values. Anti-Semites did not want to hire or live among Jews because they perceived us as having negative, or at least different, personal characteristics and cultural values.When Jews became Americanized that changed.
Avi KParticipantCrawley, Actually, an OECD poll showed that Israelis are among the happiest in the world (#5 after Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland and Finland). Israel is one of the best places to raise children (#4 after Austria, Sweden and Finland according to the Family Life Index). It has one of the best medical systems(#28 on the WHO list). You are over on the sin of the spies. Or you are overcompensating for guilt feeling at not living here.
Avi KParticipantCharlie, you are simply ignorant of the facts regarding Jim Crow. It was enshrined in state and local law and enforced by terrorist and semi-terrorist organizations such as the KKK and WCC. Thus, there was no free market.
June 2, 2016 4:58 am at 4:58 am in reply to: Is a Jew allowed to buy gasoline even though the sales help support Jihad terror #1153751Avi KParticipantIs a Jew allowed to buy from someone who supports Bernie Sanders?
Avi KParticipantCA, they get their kicks forcing Jews to bake cakes for their events. All Nazis are crazy. It is a tautology.In any case, this is only a paradigm. The general question is the right of religious people to refrain from participating in toeva “weddings”.
June 1, 2016 4:23 am at 4:23 am in reply to: How to regulate who your children are friends with #1153610Avi KParticipantJoseph, what about people who send their kids to Orthodox schools who are dishonest in business, say lashon hara (I even know someone who imitates the accents of gedolei Tora and another who tells insulting jokes about various communities because they thinks it is funny), use bad language, etc.? The Gra says (Even Sheleima 2) that if someone has naturally bad middot learning Tora will actually make him worse. This is why Tora is compared to water. It makes everything grow. As for children who go to public school, would you differentiate between playing in your home and in theirs as perhaps the other kids will be influenced? What would you tell someone who has close non-frum relatives?
MW13, the mishna in Avot refers to an individual and his individual status. It does not make blanket assumptions.
Avi KParticipantCA, maybe they have the best prices. Maybe the Nazis get their kicks that way.
Avi KParticipantRebyidd, there is no religious test for public office in the US. In fact, Joe Lieberman came very close to becoming VP in 2000.
Charlie, isolationism might be good for the Jews this time. The US uses its “aid” to Israel as a bludgeon. Moreover, he will not pressure Israel on settlements. In fact, he said in an interview with the London Daily Mail that Israel should “keep going” and “keep moving forward” with settlements. No surprise as his adviser on Israel heads the American Friends of the Bet-el Yeshiva.
May 31, 2016 4:46 am at 4:46 am in reply to: How to regulate who your children are friends with #1153600Avi KParticipantJoseph, FYI many Orthodox parents send their kids to public school because of they are too poor to pay tuition and too rich for subsidies.
May 29, 2016 4:52 am at 4:52 am in reply to: Stealing permitted in order to save ones life? #1153410Avi KParticipantZahavasdad, the Chafetz Chaim told Rav Elchonon in so many words that there would be a holocaust.
May 27, 2016 10:23 am at 10:23 am in reply to: Zionist Rabbi: Hareidi Cities should Guard Themselves #1153066Avi KParticipantIC, just because they are not seen does not mean that they are not there. Security companies only patrol within the yishuv but the IDF patrols the outside.
May 26, 2016 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm in reply to: Zionist Rabbi: Hareidi Cities should Guard Themselves #1153053Avi KParticipantNisht,what can I do if it is true? In fact, Rav Simcha Kook said explicitly that Gafni lied to Rav Eliashiv in order to get him to agree to join Sharon’s coalition and insure the expulsion from Gush Katif. In any case, it is very well known that rabbanim give different pesakim to different people. Thus, quoting what rabbanim say in public does not mean that it is set in stone for everyone. I am sure that if a kid is in danger of joining the shababnikim because he is not made for full-time learning any Chareidi rav would tell him to go into the IDF in some Chareidi framework, learn a profession and get a job. As for those who really are learning, if they are serious about also contributing why not at least dedicate their learning to the success of IDF? They will also receive the benefit of Torah lishma. In any case, the tzibbor already has half their merit by subsidizing them.
May 26, 2016 4:44 am at 4:44 am in reply to: Zionist Rabbi: Hareidi Cities should Guard Themselves #1153047Avi KParticipantMW, who says? What is Chareidi-friendly? Pleasing the askanim who are the real decision makers as they control what the gedolim hear and whom they see?
Avi KParticipantAkuperma, his name is Ralph Nader. I do not think that he made a neder.
Avi KParticipantHe wants to force Jewish bakers to bake cakes for Nazi events.
May 24, 2016 4:54 am at 4:54 am in reply to: Why the lack of Tznius on Internet Simcha sites?! #1153620Avi KParticipantWhat about the kedusha of business dealings? This is where the serious chillul Hashem exists.
Avi KParticipantR. Yehuda Glick as he has much more yirat Shemayim (regarding Har HaBayit he follows Rav Lior’s heter). Moreover, Lieberman has already proposed giving the Triangle, which is mainly populated by Arabs but is an integral part of EY, to a Palestinian state.
Avi KParticipantThe Chatam Sofer did not say “Machnisei Rachamim” but did daven for others. He explained that being that all Jews are connected the person is really davening for himself. If he is a talmid chacham he has more merit and davens better. However, angels have no involvement with us (Responsa OC 1:166 -http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14663&st=&pgnum=130) .
Avi KParticipantCTL, I think that he was referring to your priorities in voting.
Avi KParticipantCharlie, not correct. The authorities can rely on circumstantial evidence (Guide 3:40). The purpose of the secular criminal justice system, unlike battei din, which are concerned with atonement for the criminal, is to maintain public order(Iggerot Moshe Chohsen Mispat 2:68 and see Ran Derasha 11). In fact, Noahides can be executed for being over on any of the sheva mitzvot. Thus, if a Noahide who has a record longer than our combined arms is executed, even though he did not commit this specific act the only unjust result is that the real murderer thinks he got away scot-free (although really it is just a matter of time until he gets his). In fact, even if a Jew is a three time loser he is locked up in a tower and left there until he dies (Rambam Hilchot Sanhedrin 18:5).
Avi KParticipantAnyone who refuse to vaccinate his kids ((except on the instructions of a doctor) is a child abuser.
Avi KParticipantCharlie, if the seller only wants to sell to a gentile or to a Jew why should he not have that right? Besides having overwhelmingly Jewish neighborhoods is good for the Jews.
Avi KParticipantRefuah sheleima.
Avi KParticipantFeivel, if you mean not muttar l’chatchila that is what I meant, not because I am deciding between the poskim c”v but becuase it might be a safek d’Oraita and anyway it is at least an almost universally accepted hanhaga. However, just as in other areas of Halacha we can rely on lenient opinions in certain situations so too in this matter.
Avi KParticipantIt is an obligation to listen to the doctors (Maharik Shoresh 159, Shevut Yaakov 1:65, Yalkut Yosef Kitzor Shulchan Aruch Laws of the Doctor and the Obligation to be Cured 2). As this is a public health matter it would seem that he authorities should compel parents to vaccinate their kids.If they do not are their kids become ill they would chayavim b’dinei Shemayim (as it is gramma).
Once a baal bayit refused to eat on Yom Kippur against his doctor’s orders. He died and Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky, who was the rav of the town, ordered him treated like a suicide.
Avi KParticipantFeivel, the point is that iti s questionable if shaking hands in a business situation is derech hibba v’taava or simply a formality. Rav Herschel Shachter and Rav Aharon Solveichik permitted it – and Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky said in Emmet l’Yaakov on Tur Shulchan Aruch p. 405 note 4 “Regarding returning a handshake to women when they extend their hand first in greeting, not in an affectionate manner, this is a very serious question and it is difficult to be lenient. However, in circumstances where the woman may come to be embarrassed, perhaps one could consider being lenient. This requires further study”. Rav Moshe himself (Iggerot Moshe EH 1:56 at the end) that there are yirei Hashem who shaker hands when women initiate it and suggested that they hold that it is not derech hibba v’taava although he said that it is “difficult” to rely on this.
On the hand, there are issues of embarrassing someone,causing hatred, losing a job or job possibility. These all might be good reasons to rely on lenient opinions.
As for your smart-aleck examples, what is wrong with eating in a gentile home per se? If they offer you unopened certified kosher cold cuts on paper plates with plastic knives and forks and cold drinks in paper cups (although really if their utensils are cold it is not a problem b’diavad) it is totally permitted. The other examples do not deserve a response.
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