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  • in reply to: Best Android Filter or App Lock with No Monthly Recurring Fees #1241454
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    Joseph are you asking for Israel or the states? I started a thread a while back asking for a replacement for the K9 filter (they don’t work on the latest version of android and I have the feeling they won’t be updating it anytime soon). Somebody in the CR recommended Mobicip which was a very comparable alternative. They have a filtered browser and you can block certain apps (including the appstore itself so that you can’t download new apps without the password).

    The filtered browser isn’t perfect (you can still access things like google image search although I think it’s forced safesearch) but it’s definitely better than no filter at all. The app is free although to do anything more than the stuff I just listed I think you need a paid version.

    If you’re asking for Israel I got a mushgach phone which I found out about recently. Basically it takes two sim cards – one kosher and one not so you have two phone numbers you can use. The phone is a smartphone and you have internet access on the non-kosher SIM but there is no internet browser, youtube, etc. There is just basic parve apps like email and weather. At the place I got mine from the guy can add on certain other apps like waze and whatsapp. As long as you don’t need to check any websites it’s great option as you don’t need to worry about any chinks in the armor of the filter since there’s no browser. It’s great for an adult, however if you’re looking for a child it’s probably more than they need.

    in reply to: Do We Believe in Heroes? #1222008
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    I really really love visiting and davening by kivrei tzadikim. Last night I was zoche to go to the kever of Calev ben Yafuneh and while there I thanked Hashem for helping me to get there and told Him that Calev is one of my all time heros (as he risked life and limb even against multiple giants to daven at ma’arat hamachpela).

    in reply to: How do people afford apartments in Israel? #1218518
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    Geordie613 – from what I’m aware it’s not so much cheaper to buy on paper. In fact, because it’s a brand new apartment and you can customize a lot of stuff, depending on where an alternative existing apartment is it could possibly even be more expensive. However you do save money on any potential renovations you’d have to do on an existing place.

    Most projects nowadays are insured by a major Israeli bank in order to guarantee the buyer’s money in case the contractor goes belly-up. Additionally the payments are made are made in installments based on progress in the construction – i.e. you make a payment after they pour the concrete, another payment when they do the wiring, etc. That way if the construction isn’t going according to schedule they don’t get paid.

    That being said there is a big down payment up front and the entire time until you get the keys you are paying for construction as well as rent wherever you’re currently living.

    in reply to: How do people afford apartments in Israel? #1218504
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    Shopping613 – that may be technically true but as I said earlier – the vast majority of avreichim/melamdim/etc. I speak to do indeed own their own place (even if lets say they pay rent in Jerusalem and rent out their own place somewhere else).

    If a couple where both work and make decent salaries have no hope al pi derech hateva of coming up with the money for a down payment, how is it that so many in the learning world do manage it somehow? Especially if they come from a family of a similar background I find it hard to believe so many of them have wealthy parents who can just gift it to them.

    So what’s the secret that the rest of us aren’t let in on… is it all just schnoring at the end of the day? And if so, is schnoring seriously THAT lucrative? And if it is indeed that lucrative, then what is the point in sacrificing away a life of potential learning in order to slave away at a job just to set yourself up for financial failure anyway when you could just get it from somebody else and spend the majority of your time in the beis midrash? (I’m not saying that’s necessarily the right way to do things but I feel it’s a question that should at least be asked).

    in reply to: How do people afford apartments in Israel? #1218489
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    Thanks for the suggestion lightbrite – just to clarify I currently work full time… not in kollel. Which is part of the crazy thing – I don’t get paid a fortune but it’s also not too shabby a salary (by Israeli standards) and my wife makes over minimum wage and we still can’t finish the month. If I was in kollel I still wouldn’t be financially above water but at least I’d have a lot of learning to show for it, plus discounts on lots of things and probably better protexia for things like getting kids into schools. Slaving away just to pay rent that goes to pay off somebody else’s mortgage while leaving me with little time for my family and to learn kind of takes the whole incentive out of working.

    There are two issues here – one is not being in debt, and the other is affording a place of our own. We’re trying to budget and figure out where to cut costs but with high rent, high arnona, high price of food, higher than ever electricity bills and the never ending costs of B”H a few children running around there is only so much to trim.

    The second issue is buying a place so that at least every month we’re paying off a mortgage instead of rent and a few decades from now could have something to show for our struggles (as well as not having to worry about moving every few years and finding a new neighborhood, new commute and new schools for the kids). I just feel a little skeptical that I could raise $100-150k necessary for a down payment.

    Plus I feel bad taking when there are people in really horrible matzavs that are in need while we are in a tough spot but not starving (at least not yet B”H)

    in reply to: How many Gaonim are there? #1215692
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    A rav I’m close to told me that back in Europe the bare minimum for being called a gaon was to know all of shas rashi/tosfos baal peh.

    The term seems to pretty loosely be thrown around today which tends to cheapen it. I’ve seen a chaver knesset who has been referred to as “harav ######## shlita” Now this individual may very well have some sort of smicha and I’m sure he learns when he has the chance but the fact of the matter is what capacity does he function at day to day, or as he ever functioned at to really fill the description of a rav? I’m personally unaware of it (thought could be I’m just ignorant of his full situation) but for me it seems unfair compared to those who are in actual rabbanus

    in reply to: Do you recognize the 'State of Israel'? #1214164
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    I think you can clarify the difference between your run of the mill anti-zionist mainstream charedi and a proper anti-zionist like a satmar chassid with the following hypothetical:

    If tomorrow Bibi and all the other members of knesset were to do teshuva, put on black kippahs, start consulting with gedolim and only passing laws that were in line with halacha would you still have an issue with the state existing?

    From what I understand the minority of poskim such as Reb Yoilish held that creating a state under any circumstances is an issur gamur, whereas rov poskim held the way it was done l’maisah wasn’t allowed (i.e. a secular state founded by a bunch of apikorsim which encouraged droves of yiddin off the derech) but that if a group of rabbanim had founded a halacha state there wouldn’t have been an issur involved.

    in reply to: Frum Preppers #1213695
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    I asked a very well known Anglo kiruv rav (he probably wouldn’t mind me mentioning his name but I won’t just in case) about prepping – not necessarily for end of the world but just in case of a major disaster. My shaila wasn’t so much on stocking food, etc but more on having a family plan in case of major disasters/emergencies, etc. His exact words were, “There is nowhere to escape from Hashem. You need no plans”

    I’ve always been fascinated by the idea of prepping but I’ve never really delved into it because of a personal theory I have called the “sprained ankle” theory. It goes like this – somebody can have all the right gear, a good weapon, a hiding place, etc. But when everything collapses and they go into survival mode all of a sudden one day they trip on a stone and sprain their ankle badly now no longer being able to run from danger or the like quickly enough so all the amazing preparation and training was for naught because of an unpredictable chance occurrence.

    It doesn’t need to be a sprained ankle – it could be anything (getting food poisoning, competitors for food or shelter getting the jump on you, etc). The sprained ankle itself just represents how despite our best planning we are totally unable to plan for even the most simplest of things Hashem can throw our way.

    That theory has basically kept me from spending a lot of time and energy getting involved in prepping. Though I still think it would be amazing to know how to start a fire without matches or know what kind of plants you can eat in the wild, etc.

    in reply to: Frum Preppers #1213692
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    do you have any resources that you recommend for frum people interested in becoming preppers?

    in reply to: Who will be Moshiach? #1211180
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    good point all on Rashi’s daughters – totally forgot about that.

    As far as coming from undistinguished lineage, although Moshe rabbeinu was raised in pharo’s house, he also was the son of Amram who seemed to be one of if not the preeminent gadol hador at the time. So even if mashiach’s background will mirror that of Moshe Rabbeinu’s, coming from distinguished lineage isn’t necessarily a stirah.

    in reply to: Who will be Moshiach? #1211173
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    Are we talking about Mashiach ben Yosef or Mashiach ben David? I heard from a rav once that Mashiach ben Yosef doesn’t need necessarily need to be a direct father to son descendant from Yosef haTzadik (i.e. he could be of matralinial descent) but I don’t know a source on the inside for this.

    As far as Mashiach ben David we know he needs to be a direct patralinial descendant of David HaMelech so let’s look at who has a mesorah for that. Rav Daniel Glattstein said a few days ago in a TorahAnytime shiur that Rashi was a direct descendant (and apparently he’s a direct descendant of Rashi so I guess he’s a candidate!) – so anyone who can trace father to son back to Rashi.

    The Baal Shem Tov, Rebbe Nachman m’Breslov, and the Maggid m’Mizritch also were direct descendants so somebody who could trace lineage back to them would be in the running as well. Rav Yosef Shlomo Dayan came from a large Syrian family in which they apparently had documents recording their family back to David Hamelech as well. As he never married he didn’t have any children though I believe he had a lot of relatives.

    These are the ones that come off the top of my head – is anyone else familiar with a lineage like these?

    in reply to: Ivris speaking cheder #1209395
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    I’ve found the whole ivrit thing very difficult l’ma’aseh. On the one hand it’s really disgusting to hear the things people say on the street in modern hebrew and how our holy tongue has been perverted, especially when you hear vulgar people speaking. I read in a biography of Reb Yoilish that he once said, “I wish I knew hilchos Shabbos as well as I know that it’s assur to speak ivrit!”

    On the other hand, as a baal teshuva with absolutely no Jewish schooling growing up (not even reform) the difference in my learning ability before I went to ulpan and after was basically in different galaxies. So on an idealistic level I’d like to poo-pah ivrit but on a pragmatic level without my knowledge of ivrit my kodesh learning would be limited to very little beyond English translations.

    Also we send our kids to chinuch atzmai schools so anyway they are learning in ivrit (albeit peppered with a lot more lashon hakodesh and yiddish than ivrit on the street). We toyed with the idea sending to yiddish speaking only chedarim but it’s just too big a leap for us.

    With regards to the OP – regardless of your stance on lashon hakodesh vs ivrit, (and with all other things being equal as far as your ability to do so) the easiest solution would be to make aliyah so that your children grow up learning Torah in it’s natural language to begin with!

    in reply to: Ivris speaking cheder #1209394
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    “clearly, they did not speak Loshon Hakodesh, even before the Churban.”

    Wow Joseph – I was about to bring a passuk from Navi to say not like you but when I saw it I realized you may be onto something.

    http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14263&st=&pgnum=381

    “????? ????????? ???????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ?????? ??? ???????”

    It looks like rov am during bayit rishon didn’t understand Aramaic (which I’m assuming was the lingua franca) but they did speak something called Yehudit or Jewish (the literal translation of Yiddish as well!) I have no idea what exactly this Yehudit language was but the fact they didn’t say call it lashon hakadosh perhaps fits very well into what your saying.

    in reply to: Chiyuv to destroy X-mas trees? #1208193
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    Def talk to a rav but it may not be a chiyuv as, although the origin of the minhag for the tree comes from avodah zarah, in most western countries today the tree itself actually worshiped.

    My father (may he do tshuva) has many avodah zarah statues and the like he has bought on trips to the far east. I asked a shaila once on whether I should destroy them or not and was told that since they were sold as souvenirs it shows they didn’t have chashivus to the goyim selling them as mamish an avodah zarah. However the rav I asked was not an official posek so take it for what it’s worth.

    in reply to: Yes – he IS my son!!! #1208068
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    Israeliyid

    “as a body that only works and is able to function properly based on discipline, had no choice but to charge and try him for violating orders.”

    Did they have to charge him? Did they not have an option to have some sort of disciplinary action under wraps and away from the media?

    Furthermore, did the chief of staff and defense minister have to pounce on him before the facts were even known?

    It just seems to me that a lot of measures were taken that were not obligatory in the least which have put this poor boy’s future in peril for the sake of some soundbites and resume items for a future knesset run.

    Why this blind insistence on offering up Azaria as a korban on the alter of protocol? Maybe we should just update the protocol instead of punishing the soldier. And for what ends? Even with all the IDF’s “morality” everyone brags about the whole world still hates us and wants to destroy us. I would rather have an effective and feared army than a defeated and moral one. Chazal say one who comes to kill you rise up and kill him first… whatever happened to G-d’s morality?

    And furthermore, getting back to one of my original points – it’s all fine and well that both you and I view all the soldiers as all our children, but we don’t have a say in the army now do we? The chief of staff on the other-hand does have a big say and he has made it quite clear that he most definitely does NOT view them as our children.

    in reply to: Yes – he IS my son!!! #1208065
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    Who cares if he was unarmed or injured or both? What about the terrorist part of his appellation?

    What happens every time the Mossad does a hit job on some terrorist somewhere in the world or the air force drops a bomb on a hamas chief from a drone? If they didn’t happen to be armed or in the middle of an act of terror at the time is that still justified? If so what is the moral difference between that and shooting an unarmed and injured terrorist who just finished stabbing somebody?

    If you want to argue that those targets have the potential to harm a lot more people than some random guy who picked up a knife then please define your minimum amount of potential Jews harmed which crosses the line of “too many to allow such a person to live” – for me the threshold is 1 Jew.

    in reply to: Yes – he IS my son!!! #1208062
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    I don’t care if the guy was undressed and handcuffed already – the moment he tried to kill a soldier (or any Jew for that matter – and according to common sense anywhere in the world even a goy) he has forfeit his right to life and can have no complaint if he’s put to death no matter if the circumstances follow “protocol” or not. We are talking about justice and survival here – that’s why they send soldiers into the battlefield, not attorneys.

    So please don’t sit there all smug with your hypothetical situations. The fact of the matter is there are numerous documented cases of terrorists who were let out in some prisoner swap or even served their term and went back to terrorist after even getting blood on their hands a second time. If I’m not mistaken the terrorists who kidnapped and killed the 3 boys are a more recent example of this having been released in the Shalit swap.

    You want to get hypothetical? What if Azaria didn’t kill this terrorist scumbag and he healed, got let out of jail and G-d forbid went on to attack more innocent people? At least we could be menachem the slained’s families by reassuring them that we had done the “moral” thing.

    So go ahead and sit in your tower worrying about your philosophical situations of right and wrong – the rest of us will be down here worrying about yidden’s lives.

    in reply to: Torah sources about the freemasons #1206778
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    Joseph – from what I understand their core requirements are that you have to believe in a supreme being and some sort of scripture. They also have some sort of belief that their forefathers played some key role in building bayis rishon.

    lilmod – thanks! I knew all these years of patiently waiting and enduring would someday pay off!

    in reply to: Do the moderators enjoy giving subtitles #1207543
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    I’m still confused as to how you qualify for getting a subtitle – is it just luck of the draw?

    in reply to: Kashrus in Israel #1205161
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    simcha613 – Eida Haredis seems to be the most widely held of and from what I’ve seen the most common one you will see on packaged food from a store, however I can’t recall seeing their teudah on any restaurants (does anyone here know if they even give hashgacha for eateries?)

    From what I’m aware some ashkenazim don’t eat sefardi hechsherim and vice versa because of different chumros and/or kulos between them in schitah, removing the gid hanseh, etc.

    When I was in Yeshiva about 8 years ago there were some rabbanim who weren’t a big fan of Beit Yosef claiming they didn’t feel comfortable with how it was run. I countered that it had Rav Ovadia’s name behind it and the customary answer I always got was, “yeah but Rav Ovadia isn’t the one checking every chicken” I thought that was a pretty weak answer as Rav Rubin also isn’t checking every chicken if you know what I mean. When I was getting married I told a rav I was inviting who teaches people for smicha in issur v’heter that the wedding hall was under Beit Yosef in case he had a problem with it and he smiled and said, “I like my Beit Yosef with salt and pepper please!”

    in reply to: Davening Mincha and Maariv Together #1204777
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    See Sefer Ben Ish Chai ??? ? ???? ????? ???? ?

    He says according to the gemara should shouldn’t daven one after the other however now that the minhag has developed to do so those who do have what to be somech on. He clarifies you can only do it in a tzibur but not k’yachid.

    There are a fair amount of sefardi shuls in Israel that do this (apparently based on this Ben Ish Chai) and it’s incredibly convenient. As Mik5 mentioned though you have to be extremely careful not to forget shema b’zmana

    in reply to: Location of Kever Rochel and other kevarim #1204251
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    The location of Kever Rachel was still known at the beginning of galus bavel as Rashi brings down on Breshis 48:7 that Rahel Imeinu was davka buried there so Am Yisrael could go pass her tziun on the way to Bavel. If the mesora of the tzium was preserved for hundreds of years until then, it’s not such a stretch to assume the location was known 70 years later when the galus was over and even more so after people started coming back.

    I’ve heard several theories that the site known today isn’t valid but it’s from academically minded sources – I’ve yet to hear a Torah based svara. For example I’ve heard that the real location is in Adam or another that it’s in the north, however the pasukim are pretty clear that it’s a parsa from Beit Lechem in Efrat. There are those who want to say there have been multiple ancient locations named Beit Lechem but again there is only one area known as Efrat so it doesn’t make sense to assume it’s a Beit Lechem other than the one there.

    Yeshiva News has reported on Rav Kanievsky visiting the site so presumably he holds it’s the right one, and there was a story about 8 years ago involving Rav Mordechai Eliyahu davening there and having a gilui of Rachel Imeinu so it would seem he held it was the right location as well. Between Bayis Sheni and the rule of the Turkish Sultan I’m not sure if there are recorded sources of the mesorah but it would be something interesting to look up.

    I usually reference kevertzadik when looking for kivrei tzadikim – one of their guys does a lot of research into the sites.

    in reply to: Where To Go in Eretz Yisroel #1159579
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    Kever Shmuel Hanavi is a nice overall spot – you can daven, there’s a national park around the kever and it’s one of the best views you can get of Jerusalem. There’s sometimes arab dudes hanging around selling donkey rides and if you want shopping the Ramot mall is 5 minutes down the road.

    Since you have little ones with not so sure if it’s shayach but if you want some good kivrei tzadikim you can check out the site Kever Tzadik – if the mods allow the address it’s link removed.

    in reply to: Advice for learning yiddish #1157357
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    Thanks all – for more clarification based on the responses I’m looking to learn modern yiddish (I’d like to be able to converse with people – no academic aspirations). I’ve heard there are different dialects but I live in Yerushalayim so I guess I’d like to learn the Israeli one.

    I like the idea about shiurim or speaking with people at an old age home but I work full time and B”H have several young kids at home to help tend to after work so I don’t really have so much time and any shiurim I go to or listen to would be in English or Hebrew.

    As far as children’s books – if you don’t already have some sort of background in Yiddish how are you supposed to understand the story? I tried reading a kid’s book once but couldn’t understand anything.

    Are there any English/Yiddish dictionaries anyone would recommend?

    in reply to: Jerusalem Rabanut Mehuderet hashgacha #1139789
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    I have a rav who teaches people for smicha in issur v’heter I take my kashrus questions to – he told me in theory it’s supposed to be somewhere between stam rabbanut and mehadrin, but that he feels anyone who eats mehadrin shouldn’t trust it.

    in reply to: Buisness ideas and oppurtunities #1137412
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    I’ve recently starting listening to a great podcast on soundcloud called “Ask Pat” and it’s full of good ideas about running business and/or website. He’s got a lot of great advice that applies to a range of fields and even though he’s not Jewish he focuses a lot on how to make money while still developing your family life so it’s not all just about chasing another dollar.

    In general I’d recommend something you find interesting or enjoy doing already and consuming as many books/blogs/podcasts/etc. as you can about it to really get a feel for the field.

    A BIG thing I’d recommend is look up people involved in that line of work. Find a business or person doing something you’re interested in and find their email address off their website or their number in the phonebook.

    If they are located near you then visit the office in person. Basically say you’re interested in pursuing a career in that field and you’d like to know what their day-to-day work entails as well as what kind of education or experience they needed to get into it as well as other advice they have to offer. Also ask how much you can expect to earn doing such work.

    Don’t be shy – people generally like talking about themselves and will be flattered that somebody values their opinion or experience. Maybe they will be busy when you get a hold of them but will be willing to speak in the evening, etc. so don’t be afraid to chase them. The worst they can say is no or ignore you.

    Best advice for last…. DAVEN like crazy for clarity!!! And stay positive – often failures are just Hashem’s way of testing your resolve.

    in reply to: Is authentic Judaism incompatible with being rich and famous? #1137035
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    I used to look down on people I knew who were chasing after parnassa instead of spending more time learning. However I recently started trying trying to do my own small business and there is tremendous pressure to do hishtadlus. I’m roughly keeping my basic learning sedarim I had before but the extra learning I would do in my free time is down a bit – much more down however is my yearning to learn even when I don’t have the actual opportunity to do so. Before when I wasn’t learning I was wishing I could be, now when I have some free time I feel an overbearing need to focus it on studying different aspects of my potential parnassa. Even when I actually am learning I’m often thinking about business.

    Hashem has really humbled me as previously I was a snob not understanding how somebody could have this yetzer hara. I truly believe on an intelectual level that Hashem dictates how much money I’ll make no matter how much or little hishtadlus I put in and that learning more Torah should only help my parnassa, however emotionally it’s quite hard not to feel the opposite.

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    zahavasdad – “I know lots of people who wrote resumes and filled out job applications and they got jobs”

    And I know a lot of people who wrote resumes and filled out applications and still can’t find a job! Just like segulot – hishtadlus also isn’t a 100% guarantee of success. The way I see it if you do both then at least you covered all your bases and did the best you could… additionally davening is always the best option of them all.

    in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1113014
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    Avi K – “In fact, religious immigrants were sent to religious settlements as per the agreement between the Mizrahi and Mapai.”

    That is an extremely false sweeping statement. Perhaps in some cases this is what happened but across the board it was simply not the case. Chassidim constantly had to try and convince the zionist authorities to release religious europeans who had been forced into secular camps and they would not allow them to transfer to religious ones (in some cases they had to sneak them out). I read an speech by Rav Mahpoud just a year or two ago about how his mother and he were placed in secular camp and how the officials there would insult and mock him on a daily basis for being frum and knock his kippah off his head. What – was he just making these stories up?

    Why were Jews going off in Morocco? Because zionists organizations where sending shluchim there to drive people off the derech! Before you claim it’s not true please see here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/229972/eida-gavaad-chilul-shabbos-to-prevent-induction-into-the-idf.html

    “I have known more than one personally.” And I spoke to a rav this past Rosh Hashana who told me he spoke to somebody who came to E”Y after the war and when the boat was approaching the shore they instructed everyone on board to start tossing their tefillin into the water.

    “Today, Israel is fast becoming more religious.” Thank G-d!!! That’s mainly because of A) the dis-proportionally higher birthright among religious Jews than secular ones and B) that more and more mainstream Israelis are becoming disillusioned with the zionist dream and are realizing that the state can not protect them physically (putting world opinion ahead of fighting terrorist to save Jewish lives) or even financially (think tent protests etc) nor is it even interested in doing so and that the only one that we can truly rely on is Hashem.

    in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1113006
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    On the topic of shmad I’d like to say that I don’t think hayom making aliyah is a problem of shmad as some may be asserting here – but on the other hand what the tzionim did to the sefardim during the early days of this country is absolutely disgusting. If it wasn’t for their strong emunah p’shuta as well as the work of certain gedolim like Reb Yoilish and the Lubavitcher Rebbe, and probably more than anyone else Rav Ovadia ztz”l there wouldn’t be any frum or even traditional sefardim left. My wife’s family came from Morocco and my mother in law was initially the only one of 11 kids to go off and intermarry. B”H she came back and remarried a yid, but today of those other siblings she is the only one frum and almost the only one married to a Jew. When asked how her family could just drop Torah when they were all frum in Morocco she said everyone always told them the medinah is the mashiach you’ve been waiting for all these centuries so now you don’t need religion anymore. Check out Rav Kahane’s HY”D speech where he details how they would put sefardim in transit camps and not grant the fathers work permits unless they showed an ishur from Misrad haChinuch that they had enrolled their children in chiloni schools – i.e. give your kids a non-Torah education or watch them starve.

    The early tzionim did full-fledged shmad b’kavanah – all just so that the sefardim would give more votes to their degenerate socialist parties instead of following the gedolim as they were naturally inclined to do. You can argue that things were tough in Muslim countries and indeed they were – but that does in no way shape or form make the spiritual holocaust of Sefardi Jewry by their fellow Jews forgivable!

    in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112984
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    rwndk1 + 1

    in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112963
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    Avi K – “The caravan is temporary until a new shul can be built on government-owned land nearby”

    Why is it being allowed to be destroyed in the first place?

    “All kinds of spins are floated in the Israeli press.”

    Naftali Bennet bought into the spin enough to speak out against it. He is a member of the cabinet – not just some stam guy reading the paper.

    “Netanyahu woud have to be insane to unilaterally withdraw as the security situation will be completely untenable”

    Many said the same about Sharon before Gush Katif… and were proven quite right. Their common sense didn’t stop arik. When tziyonim want to hurt Jews they don’t let things like security of Jewish lives or justice get in their way.

    “These are those who join the ranks of our enemies, slander and attempt to delegitimize our state.”

    Our state? Speak for yourself – I carry a blue TZ for lack of an alternative, not out of any patriotism for any state – I’m a citizen of Klal Yisrael thank you very much. And in light of evicting Jews from their homes thousands at a time, advertising itself as the toieva capital of the middle east, etc – the medina does a fine job of de-legitimizing itself without anyone else’s help.

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    Health – “You’re only a Buki in Zionism!”

    I thought you said anyone who goes to the army, votes or takes money from the government is a zionist – how do you know I do any of those 3? I personally don’t allow even toy israeli flags into my home. Interesting side note – while he said not to vote in national elections, apparently Reb Yoilish said to vote in municipal elections so I guess that makes Satmar zionist??

    “So you’re admitting I’m right! I said you can’t keep V’nishmartem Meod in Israel.”

    You totally missed point – v’nishmartem is negated in light of kivush h’aretz therefore in that circumstance there is no mitzvah of v’nishmartem.

    Avi K – I was being facetious in response to your use of the Rambam to assert it’s a mitzvah to be in the IDF. And no comment on Gafni’s paycheck – I wouldn’t vote for him if he donated his paycheck to me.

    rabbiofberlin – I actually have been following the news however I’m unaware of this compromise of which you speak. Unless by compromise you are referring to the government offering to put up some moldy caravan “until a replacement shul can be built” which will never happen because there is apparently no physical space to actually build a new shul in that area (as per an affiliate of the shul in a radio interview). And as far as no further withdrawals being seriously considered didn’t this website report just a few days ago that Bibi is mulling a unilateral withdrawal from Yo”Sh?

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    Avi K – DY, it is also a mitzva to go into the IDF. This is a milchemet mitzva (Rambam Hilchot Melachim 5:1)!

    I assume this quote from that halacha is what you are referring to:

    ??? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?????

    Seeing as how the Rambam paskins it’s a milchemet mitzvah to aid Israel in any enemy that attacks it, and seeing as how the IDF kicked several thousand Jews out of their homes about a decade ago, puts Jews in administrative detention for following Torah over the medina, and just last week the defense minister stood up emphatically in concurrence with a supreme court decision to destroy a shul outside Yerushalayim calling those who oppose it “encouraging Jewish terrorists” it seems like we very well have a chiyuv to wage milchemet mitzvah against the IDF!!!

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    Health – I’m not a big buki on the sugiya but I remember hearing a deah that goes something along the lines of this – that the chiyuv of kivush ha’aretz still applies to today and since kivush involves making war which is inherently dangerous and often life threatening therefore with this mitzvah there is no inyan of v’nishmartem meod. I don’t remember the exact sources of the top of my head but let me know if you would like and I can try to find them to see it on the inside.

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    Bookworm120 – you have touched on an issue that I feel many people lack a lot of intellectual honesty with – is Eretz Yisrael really safer or not. Statistically speaking I’m not sure if it’s safer or not in a general way (they say the chances of getting killed in terrorism here are still lower than from a traffic accident but that could just say something really bad about Israeli drivers). However I personally have come to the conclusion that the odds of getting chalila getting injured or killed solely for being Jewish is higher here than any other place in the world (with France probably coming in second place these days) and on a pashtus level it seems that is because of zionism. Possibly even most anti-semetic attacks in chu”l are a result of zionism. I’m not basing that statement on any rabid anti-zionist neturei karta ideology – I’m just basing it on what the people who carry out these attacks tend to themselves say is their reason.

    We have to be honest with ourselves – one shouldn’t choose to live in E”Y because they think it’s safer. The choice should be based on if that person feels it’s ratzon Hashem and it will allow them to live a life more connected to Him. For myself and my wife we feel it’s something worth being somewhat moser nefesh for. I do leave the house for work every day knowing there is a possibility I might not make it back that night G-d forbid, however that possibility isn’t grave enough to prevent me from doing it every day. And if it’s Hashem’s will that chalila some guy pulls out a knife/gun/bomb/whatever, at least I can die with the comfort that I lived in a place I loved – not because it’s necessarily the nicest place to live but because it’s the place Hashem gave me as a yid.

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    Health – “So this is enough of a reason to be – ?? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?”? – I don’t think so! So there must be another reason(s). How about this one -“that zionism could be classified in our times as avodah zara”?!?”

    One of the three exceptions the Rambam lists for allowing people to leave E”Y is to learn Torah. I’m not a posek but it seems like you could make a kal v’chomer that if it’s muttar to leave to learn then it should be muttar to leave in order to teach.

    I think you are mixing up loving and living in E”Y with zionism l’havdil. Just because someone chooses to live in Israel instead of moving to Chu”l does by no means classify them as a zionist. The Eida haCharedis operates out of Yerushalayim and is probably the biggest private kashrus hashgacha in the country… are you suggesting they are zionist?

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    I’m more than willing to entertain the notion that zionism could be classified in our times as avodah zara, however what about the Rambam hilchot melachim u’milchot perek 5

    ????? ???? ??? ???? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???”? ??? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?”? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????? ????? ?’ ???? ?? ???? ????? ????? ?????????? ??? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?? ???? ??? ????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ????

    And as far as the gedolim listed that lived in Chu”l, I would venture to guess that most if not all of them chose to live there because of their communities that needed their guidance. The Baal Shem Tov is not a ra’yah and adaraba – he davka tried to get to E”Y but was prevented from Shemayim. I have an English biography on Rebbe Yoel m’Satmar that says he lived for some time in Yerushalayim and personally wanted to stay the rest of his life but decided to go back out of a sense of responsibility to all his chassidim in America.

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    Thanks for the suggestion! I just downloaded the free version of mobicip and it seems to be even better than k9 in some ways. May it be a zchut for you before yom kippur!

    in reply to: Has anyone used netspark that advertise on YWN? #1100275
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    Thanks DY. I tried contacting them a while back but I’m in Israel and apparently they only have representatives in CHU”L. Some lady took my info and said she would pass it on to somebody but she warned me that they are very patchy when getting back to people in Israel and she was right because I haven’t heard back from them. K9 isn’t perfect but I use it on my laptop and as mentioned was previously running it on my mobile and overall I’ve been pretty pleased with it – it does a fairly good job without being overly invasive on whatever machine your using it on… chaval it seems like it may be a long time until the new version comes out.

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    mw13 – I think you’re not paying attention to the exact lashon of the Rambam. In halacha gimmel he is only talking about a “melech” whereas in halacha dalet he starts with a melech and then brings as an aside all positions of authority.

    However I will concede a caveat that you didn’t point out which is according to the Rambam, even if we were put aside the discussion of arabs in Yehuda and Shomron for a moment, even Arabs living inside the green line and holding blue teudat zehuts should currently also have their citizenship revoked. I’m sure a ton of liberals would flip out at such an idea but I personally have no problem with it. If we honestly believe in the Torah we claim to follow, why aren’t we willing to have faith in all the pasukim that G-d designated this land solely for us and actually follow through with it?

    In the dor hamidbar the meraglim were afraid to claim this land because of the physical giants. In our generation we’re afraid to because of the “giant” world powers. We have no room to scoff every year when we read shelach lecha because we are no better than they are – thousands of years later and Am Yisrael still can’t internalize that Hashem runs the world – not flesh and blood.

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    Apparently my second post either didn’t get submitted right or the mods didn’t like it for some reason but b’kitzur since you wanted t see a Torah source on it please see Mishneh Torah hilchot melachim umilchamot the first perek – fourth halacha. I think you will see that the halacha does not work well with a citizenship granting full equal democratic rights.

    And I concede the middle east isn’t a shining light of peace and prosperity but given the current moral atmosphere of America that’s not much of anything we should be emulating these days either.

    Joseph – no I wouldn’t be ok with sanctions like russia got leveled on Israel. Obviously they would hurt somewhat, all I’m saying is they wouldn’t necessarily be as scary as people imagine. Additionally I’ll point out the majority of the sanctions from what I understand were actually leveled against individuals close to putin, not necessarily institutions.

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    mw13 – I realize the trail of tears and other grave injustices America brought on the native Americans was a long time ago – I was contrasting it to examples brought by charliehall some of which were equally as long ago.

    I think your mention of crimea actually strengthens my point rather than refute it. Putin took over crimea and davka didn’t suffer any consequences! The world made very vocal protests, but on a practical level sat by and didn’t actually lift a finger to stop him. The US and Europe did institute several economic sanctions but as you can see from how beligerant Russia continues to be the obviously can’t be defined as “crippling.”

    And no – silicon valley is not always “where the crucial stuff comes from.” Have you noticed how every few months there are headlines about silicon valley firms like Google and Facebook buying up Israeli tech companies like Waze for deals in the tens of millions of dollars? If all the crucial stuff comes out of Silicon valley why don’t they develop it all themselves instead of purchasing Israeli firms who beat them to it? And when it comes to technology there is no “cat out of the bag” New and innovative groundbreaking software is constantly being developed.

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    Charliehall – are you seriously trying to bring a raia from America? Ever heard of the “Trail of Tears” my friend? What happened to America’s benevolent bestowal of democratic rights when Native American land was “annexed” ?

    And who said anything about needing to be a democracy? This is a discussion on “yeshiva world” not ynet so I’m assuming you are a halacha-adhering Jew. Could your remind me where in the Mishnah Torah it says we are required to establish a democracy in the land of Israel and provide full and equal rights to (often enemy) non-Jews? Because I seemed to have missed that halacha. Adaraba, the Rambam indicates the exact opposite. But I guess because we live in a modern world perhaps we shouldn’t constrict ourselves to running a country according to outdated medieval religious precepts right?

    Jews aren’t allowed in Saudi Arabia and non-muslims are restricted to using their own roads. Is anyone refusing to do business with them? No – because they hold a huge amount of the world’s oil. If you haven’t noticed we hold just as much of a reserve of the world’s new technologies. The modern business world simply can’t compete without using technologies that come out of this country even if they wanted to. Why don’t take it easy posting from your comfortable democratic galus in the states and we will take care of things the Torah way and (less importantly) the middle-eastern way over here in our actual land.

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    Oh please, there’s a perfectly good reason (among others) why men don’t care care of small children – statistically speaking the overwhelming majority child molesters are men. Obviously that’s not to say all men are molesters or even that the majority of men interested in caring for small children are, however better safe than sorry. I wouldn’t feel comfortable with a strange man changing my small children’s diapers and even though I may be over on dan adam l’chaf zchut, I’d raise an eyebrow at any guy who would want to do that for a living.

    In the business world, there are many negotiating and sales situations where a man commands more respect and authority than a woman just by virtue of his gender. I’m not saying that’s right, but I’m also not saying it’s necessarily always wrong – liberal non-profits seem to be fine with social experiments but when you want to make money often you can’t buck long held rules of human nature and society. Obviously there are exceptions but that’s the general way of things.

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    Thanks for the suggestions… I heard a new iphone is supposed to be coming out soon so maybe the older versions will be available for fairly cheap.

    I’m sorry this turned into some sort of hashkafa debate. Old Man – with regards to your original comment, I don’t mean to be rude but you have no idea where I come from, my childhood and what I’ve been exposed to in my life (and frankly it’s none of your business). My decisions for what kind of phone I’d like aren’t just because some pashkvil or “gadol” I’ve never heard of said to buy a certain phone – it’s based of my own frank cheshbon hanefesh. For me a filtered phone is “controlling myself.” Even if Rav Ovadia and Rav Eliyashiv were both to tell me an unfiltered phone was perfectly muttar for the klal I still wouldn’t want one because that’s just not where I’m holding. If you are bothered by my personal yetzer haras and how I guard myself from them then why don’t you “Go to the one who made me and tell Him what an ugly vessel He made.”

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    Hi feivel – yes I’m in Israel. I had my cell provider turn off the internet for my current phone and since it’s a relatively old phone (7 years) it seems to cut off all internet access, however from what I’m aware most or all smartphones even if you cut off internet from the provider can still access from nearby wireless routers – hence why I’d like to make sure you can filter the phone itself.

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    Joseph that’s a really oversimplified and somewhat inaccurate synopsis. Put it in context – the country was so young that many people more readily identified with their personal state/former colony than with the federal government. If their state was to go one way it would be traitorous to align oneself with a more unfamiliar government in D.C. Many of them felt they weren’t the rebels but that the north was reneging on the social contact that the country was based on. The true reason for the civil war wasn’t “exactly” over slavery but more accurately how much sovereignty should the states be expected to sacrifice for the sake of the central government. Keep in mind just a little bit earlier a revolution had been fought to found a country in the spirit of rebelling against the ultimate central power – a monarchy. The south was fighting for the very ideal the country was made for in the first place – less rights and power for the central government and more for the local populace and the people. In an age when Obama is snooping through your phone calls and emails this is a very relevant issue even today. The horrific tragedy of the war is that the southerners used this great ideal to justify one of the cruelest phenomenons of enslavement (which is the ultimate hypocrisy fighting for one’s personal rights just to use them to deny others theirs in even the most fundamental ways).

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    I’ve heard that Shaar Hayirah in Reshit Chochma is supposed to be very powerful, however a lot of rabbonim won’t let their talmidim learn it as apparently it’s so scary it gets people depressed to the point some of them go off the derech chas v’shalom. I’ve learned with a big talmid chacham who whenever I’ve asked him to teach it to me he casually changes the subject, so not sure if it’s so shayach.

    Davar acher – I personally really like charifkeit, however even so often I find that something really deep and inspirational can motivate or change me much more than many instances of being scared. Try learning some chassidus and see if you can catch what I mean.

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    I hate to come off as a snob but I find it incredibly amusing sitting here in Yerushalayim ir haKodesh reading such an intense debate between frum yiddin over whose city in chu”l is better.

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