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Stem cell not taken necessarily near pelvis, can be taken from forearm. It’s just harvesting cells from your blood hardly talking anything from you but you can ask shaaloh about being chovel yourself even so.

Done it, it’s not big deal if you don’t mind needles. Dunno which region but often they will pay for day off work.

HaLeivi, I didn’t intend to get you so worked up but you are constantly misreading me and appear to take this too personally so I apologise if I offended you. I’m not comfortable debating further, but suffice to say I didn’t say Tosofos has no Yerushalmi, only that Yerushalmi (in a different mesechta) which the Ritva clearly also had, and agreed with its text.

@HaLeivi

1. The Yerusalmi mentions JC’s full name only masiach lefi tumoi in this story which gives even more credence (if any is needed, when reading a clear Gemorah!)
2. Talmud Yerushalmi is (a) uncensored and (b) probably 200 years older than Bavli whereas these sort of agedetas in Bavli were heavily censored and are more likely to be wrong textually or contextually than the Yerushalmi until you look at the defusei yoshoni
3. We clearly are given the name of ben sitta – the Gemorah in Shabbos 104b says that it’s ben pandira, and the Yerushalmi says this is JC
4. The Ritva is unequivocal that JC’s full name is יש״ו בן פנדירא and I believe the Ritva knew how to understand a Gemorah 🙂

Your theories about there being misnamed legends about early xtians and that a Gemorah would repeat errors in these “legends” are just that – internet forum theories and don’t stack up next to a Ritva. (Although of course, Tosafos does disagree but clearly not because of your “legends theory” but simply because they were missing some of the Yerushalmi!)

@HaLeiVi yes Shabbos קד

And I misremembered the Ritva too. If fact, it’s in Avoda Zoro 27b and the Yerushalmi is also in Avoda Zoro (perek 2, halacha 2).

The modern-day gemoras who have pre-censor defus-yad text add a whole chunk into The Gemorah in Shabbos 104b. (The Yerushalmi was never censored as the Bavli agageta were.)

@Haleivi I don’t really get the idea that to conflate ישו הנוצרי with בן סטדא. Nowhere does the Gemara put them together.

The Ritva on Shabbos 24b says they are the same person. Yerushalmi also. It’s night likely that the bavli too was clear on that point but removed by censor.

There are Europeans who would reject a USA shidduch due to the lax standards of giyur in America in comparison to Europe and (for now) EY.

@Health if you Google “who hcq” it’s the first result from WHO’s website.

Here’s the link, which mods may let through https://www.who.int/news/item/04-07-2020-who-discontinues-hydroxychloroquine-and-lopinavir-ritonavir-treatment-arms-for-covid-19

I don’t get this obsession with HCQ, or any other treatment.

This USA mistrust of doctors is an American machla because your healthcare is so monitised. Here in the UK where 99% of treatment for Covid happens in a NHS hospital there is almost zero way for anyone to make money out of surpressing valid treatments, and letting people die.

And yet, UK doctors, medical cheifs and head scientists are pretty much unanimous that masks, and social distancing are necessary especially when there’s a new variant with unknown long-term effects on the spread, because there is no guaranteed treatment. (And all agree that HCQ is ineffective, as is some heirmishe Monsey doctor’s magical cocktail.)

You USA-ers have got to start looking outside of your own country, at yiddishkeit worldwide and see how Eretz Yisroel reacts, and the gedolim there. The USA has one of the worst death rates from Covid in the Western world, and the yidden there someone think it’s a chov kodosh to keep the USA 11th commandment of freedom and almost entirely disregard the measures that the rest of the world, including frum yidden worldwide, think necessary.

The halachoh is that we follow rov rofim. The halacha is clear that most poskim hold that dinei dmalchusa dine applies to matters of public health.

This denial has much more to do with a misyavnim effect of valuing your USA-originating freedoms than a Torah viewpoint to do whatever we can to guard our health, obey the law of tha land, not to be misgreh b’umos and obove all to think critically and accept the majority worldview on health matters instead of conspiracy theories and quack doctors.

there are no proofs from gemorah or Rashi for this legend. The hametargem is only 130 in years old and is not considered reliable.

In York, the accounts say they did kill them. But it’s very different comparing a vadai babtisim (as in 1100s it was absoutely certain they would be forced or killed immediately), and a horoas shoh from baalei tosofos who were present in that tower, from present day when, even if their children were removed it’s NOT a vadai that havroas hadaas will happen.

And if the argument here is that it’s “mutar” in their preceived ciscumstances to murder children, then I think they should loudly proclaim that this proclamation is real and they are indeed prepared to murder children rather than allow removal from the cult. I think we all know how the yiddishe world will react.

@ADHD if your condition has let to marriage problems, that’s serious. Too serious for internet forum advice. ADHD. Call Relief for recommended therapists and professional help, first yourself but with a goal too progress to couple therapy (with a therapist by Relief).

Dear ADHD,

I feel your pain as an adult with untreated ADHD.

i can only echo @bigissy that if with current meds, it’s still affecting your marriage and mental health then it’s vital to <u>stay<u> with a good psychiatrist who can adjust and review the meds until you’ve got a level that works for you.

If your marriage setup is that your wife needs you to babysit 7-8pm, but that the meds have worn off by then and it’s torture to just sit with the kids, then either (most likely) you probably need longer-lasting meds, perhaps with melatonin (crefully timed) to make sure you can still get to sleep.

Or instead offer to get the kids ready for school in the morning when the meds are working fine, and explain that ideal babysitting for you in the evening is torture? Or perhaps it’s necessary to get a nightly babysitter no matter the expense.

Playing video games with kids everytime you’re babysitting would drive any wife crazy, so perhaps music, an exciting book or something else can work that makes it possiblef or you to bear the understimulating activity of babysitting without resorting to activities that make it bearable for you, but aren’t an ideal way to take care of child. I find having a shiur/podcast/music on with wireless earphones and ability to pause with 1 button press makes it possible to watch the kids but also be there when needed.

Take your wife with to psychiatrist! It’s vital she’s with you on the journey and understands your condition and realises what is and isn’t possible.

And yes ADHD has many advantages, it’s part of your character and she married you

Finally maybe try ADHD coaching e.g. Abraham (Avrohom) Beurer 845-459-3164. It’s costs money but can be cheaper than having real marriage issues and requiring couple therapy.

The bickering here is fun by entirely besides the point.

Clearly the siyum attendees, much like the posters here will have strong opinions whether the droshos should be in English or Yiddish.

Unlike the posters here, they provide a simple solution in order to keep sholom: simultaneous translation.

Some complained that they couldn’t hear on their phones but the solution is just as simple: bring along big headphones and plug in to your phone.

In the UK siyum they don’t rely on phones but have a radio broadcast system with special headphones which seems to work just fine

So mods, can we close the thread? 🙂

My preferred response would be to stand opposite him with a sign reading “STOP DIVIDING”

@MochiachChat I happen to do it on occasion as I’ve never seen someone freak out about it before.

I assure you every Torah yid doesn’t and wouldn’t accept it. Do yourself a favour and stop. Since at least the times of Mishna no-one has referred to gedolim vtzadikim without their title.

And as the Rambam says (פ”ו מהי’ ת”ת הי”ג) this was the final cause of churban yerushalaim – the polar opposite of what ostensibly is your lief goal.

Joseph, you have a habit of presenting your boich svoros or incomplete knowledge as fact.

The Halacha clearly states that any money or assets a wife comes into possession of during the course of her marriage is the full property of the husband.

As always, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Actually, halachah also says she can claim איני ניזונת ואיני עושה which means of she’s earning she can keep it all – during marriage and beyond.

JJ, it’s expressly prohibited for a Beis Din to use secular/non-Jewish laws instead of using Halacha/Shulchan Aruch. They can’t say even though halachicly this is your asset, since non-Jewish law says to award it to the other party, that’s what we’ll do.

Nonsense. You know neither choshen mishpat, nor have experience of typical dinei torah (momonus or gittin). Unless it’s masne al mah shekosuv batorah you can absolutely agree that a transaction is per law of the land, and if it comes to beis din then secular law is what the beis din we’ll have to evaluate (frequently with Council’s opinion).

Yerushah also, if it was a matono mchayim.

When I did the search there were fewer than 20 results between them 180 vs 160 or something. Anyway, you can try other words and examples.

I don’t get your distinction and what are words that “contain yiddish vowels”? Every word can be written with “yiddish” vowels.

The suffix thing shown that sometimes the vowels are left out when it doesn’t add. There are better examples no doubt.

I am making up rules based on experience not formal knowledge of grammar, but I suspect that your “yiddish vowels” rule is similarly made up. True?

@DY that’s not quite right. In yiddish an aleph is used for kamatz or pasach sound (almost like vowels in English), and an ayin for a segol sound when using a native Yiddish (or German or English) word. Hebrew words are usually written in their proper spelling especially if they’re clearly not Yiddish in origin.

(Exceptions include שאבעס for שבת but even that spelling is not usually used and even then only to show that it’s the “heimish” pronunciation.)

So נאר is “nohr” which means only, whereas נער in the first version is clearly the Arameic word (for fool, the line means “on’t be fool”) and so would be written with an ayin.

All the IIRC.

Don’t abuse the word abuse by describing grabbing an out of control kid as abuse.

Bad chinuch, probably. But using punitive legal action like CTLawyer’s is equally disturbing without finding out the teachers, and school leadership version of events.

Try a borerus which is like an ad-hoc beis din.

A borerus should be cheaper, and most of the time much faster. Each side chooses a dayan (which, in a “treifa borerus”, can actively defends their side – or alternatively they both should be somewhat impartial) and these two dayonim each choose the third rav/dayan.

As someone above suggested, an even simpler solution is agreeing on a single rav/dayan (the now-classic “Let’s ask Rabbi Dayan” solution) and agree in advance in writing that you’ll both accept his psak. With this method, it’s often practical to put both sides positions in writing first and then have a 40 minute meeting with the rov where each side gets equal amount of time to speak and submit evidence. This ensures that it won;t drag on into multiple meetings or phone calls.

I’m confused. Do you think when they’re transported for shechitah each chicken gets to go in a Learjet, premium corn and water from glass Ein Gedi bottles served by a stewardess? And when they arrive, they wait in a private lounge until the shochet comes and sings them to sleep before shechting them?

@dovrosenbaum Because it’s not a derech, and there is little decision involved once you’re sucked in to the cult.

Please answer your own question: why do rabbonim and erliche yidden see this as very different than any other sects?

Why did the Mishpacha – who lovingly cover all strands of Torah jewry from MO to extreme chassidus – and does not publish coverage of individual scandals, but chose the very risky position of “outing” LT as a cult?

Why does even the Eida Chareidis declare burka wearing as not halacha, mesorah or minhag?

You’ll ask me: what exactly is the line between extreme frumkeit and non-Torahdik extreme living? I don’t know exactly where it lies but I do know LT is far over that line.

And why is it a cult, rather than just a kehillah not conforming to any mesorah? Because it fits the definition: it’s based on the charisma of one person and his deputies who controls every aspect of their life from novel rules on eating, socialising, bringing up kids, shidduchim (decided by leadership not only parents!), not to mention restrictions on leaving the group that make it close to impossible unless you’re willing never to speak to your parents, siblings or children ever again.

There have been many examples given (including by me), but here’s a simple one: Is there any chassidus that would ban all familial contact with someone who left their kehillah to become “merely” a litvak or MO (but still Torah Observing)?

@Yserbius123 “And these people have a ton of acceptance and support among certain Chassidim and Yerushalmis.”

I don’t believe so, and I don’t believe you know that to be true. As you’re a redditor, may I say: [citation needed]

and “You should hang around Meah Shearim and ask people what they think of them.”

Have you?

Speaking as someone who did spend a lot of time around Meah Shearim and speak the vernacular like a native – I doubt that normative residents of Meah Shearim do agree accept Weiss and his ilk.

Like I said, all ultra anti-Zionists may look the same to you, but there are many shades of anti-State-ism and real hashkofos behind each one.

And to turn your statement around, one could argue that if you are in favour of the state, what you are doing is supporting total secularism of Jews in Israel. Which is equally not true – the two sides are more nuanced than that.

dovrosenbaum, I’m not throwing that label around. If you do all your research on LT and look at the difference between a cult and a (lmoshol) chassidus, it’s very clear LT is a cult. And I do not throw that term about.

To pick bury one additional example, they do not deny that if you leave LT for the normal chareidi world, you’ll be cut off from your family. No chassidus would do this. A cult does.

I hope Lev Lachim are on their case, as they are as bad as any missionary group and are taking yidden away from yiddishkeit into the religion of Helbrans and his deputies. At least Lev Lachim can distinguish brainwashing from frumkeit and perishus.

@apushatayid, you’re misunderstanding cults as much as Frankfurter did. No, it’s possible those children were truly happy and carefree. The fact remains they are trapped inside a cult and observing practices made up by a meglomaniac, not from our holy mesorah.

Like many cults, LT have learned to modify many of their obviously extreme traits that would get them into trouble (like beatings, refusing to give kids toys, trying to be self sufficient economically and failing dismally) but they are still a cult and their members are trapped.

dovrosenbaum, if they had a choice. From all the reports and the nature of the cult, the children, and even the adults after indoctrination have no choice.

Frankfurter of the Ami was fooled because he went there with false notions of what a cult looks like. He went expecting to see malnorished children with haunted eyes, but found happy children. That is a fundemental misunderstanding of how cults work and operate and the effect they have the one the lives of the cult members. Three year olds may be made to daven shacharis for 3 hours (to quote one allegation that even the Ami admits), and still laugh and play that afternoon when the reporter visits. That same child, with the unperscribed pills, fake chassidus, and total control over his avodas hashem will not grow up to be a healthy minded adult or fulfil Torah kitikunoi.

And there are no r”l second-generation Lev Tohar families (not to hard when you marry off girls in their early teens) who will never know the true beauty of yiddishkeit unless we rescue them.

Do Lev Lachim operate outside of EY?