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The local schools as for 2 things – salary (after taxes) and monthly expenses. You pay the difference. They do not allow you to have much in savings though
I agree with this. as well as what is considered a luxury.
I think my kids school is fair.
due to our fundamental difference I’m done playing. My comment about rich giving money to schools was to rescue.
Most elementary schools full tuition is cost of kid plus.
It is unreasonable to expect wealthy (I’m not) people to live plain and simple lives and give all the money they would spend to schools.
ETA I dont care what they did in the shtetl today school isnt a luxury. I think you need to sit a few plays out.
“a yeshiva education is a luxury in and of itself”
thats where you kind of fork from the rest of us. Your opinion is valuable just not in this thread as the parameters you set are different.
I wrote I pay what they ask me to. my school pays on time.
To me, my wifes sanity is worth $2500. I dont vacation or eat out because I allocate my funds to cleaning help instead.
I pay what the school asks me to. to me the $50 a week I spend on cleaning help is a necessity. My wife works full time and is a very neat person. it is unrealistic of me to think that on top of all her other responsibilities, she should be busy with the house all week as well.
many schools withhold transcripts as well as report cards.
star k site says frzen is ok but pureed is preferable
freezing does to a bug what blending does, namely causes it to fall apart. as with everything it should have a hechsher.
if bugs are an issue then how does blending help?
Bugs become brittle after they are frozen and that is why frozen is allowed.
it’s currently an epidemic. I think it comes from seminaries and girls thinking that a guy has to learn every second.
I did, thats why frozen strawberries are ok. I am only repeating the psak I heard and dont know the reason. check with your LOR*.
*or yhjygtmnzg or whatever nomenclature you prefer.
oh well. I disagree strongly. living in a torah environment is a priority to many. 2 miles in an urban area is a huge amount.
choosing to live in a torah environmet doesnt mean you dont value schools. I’ll say they value it more than you do.
sjs,
moving is expensive and 2 miles from a jewish community is very far. many frum people want to live in a frum city because the environment is more conducive to a torah lifestyle.
In my opinion living in a frum neighborhood isnt a luxury and most schools probably agree with that.
the kids care, most kids want to see their work quantified.
also most schools that dont give report cards withhold the transcripts as well.
Why are you revolving the world around brooklyn? choosing a community that you want to live in isnt a luxury.
I dont think its right if it didnt/doesnt work schools would not do it.
most people arent redoing their houses. most people that redo their houses arent doing it at the expense of tuition.
most people cant afford tuition because they cant afford it.
sac,
eating pork is worse. the halocha is that a frozen or ground up bug is muttar.
frozen because it becomes brittle as to the reason ask your LOR.
sac, the bags that do are awful.
if it isn’t washed/cleaned and bug free the it is still a problem.
see the post 2 above my initial one. (i.e. your comments)
it was meant as a gift.
people today have no respect.
hallady, oswalt and hamels > CC, petteite and hughes.
if it makes it to the pen Rivera > all others
gavra,
dont kid yourself it sounds nice but would be pointless and disturbing.
it did happen. I didn’t know till we were engaged.
coffee, are you in NY?
It’s not a new issue, I personally dont think it’s fair.
The chinuch roundtable had the question last year and most of the Rabbonim felt it wasnt right.
2 years ago my friend made about half of what he did the year before and couldnt pay the amount the school wanted, so his girls didnt get report cards
where did you get the full transcript from? I stand corrected on that point assuming (I do) it’s true.
so right, Yehuda Levin had puppetdino refer to 2 more accepted gedolim without the title rav. he isnt deserving of the title.
being a talmid muvhak doesnt make you worthy of a title.
so right,
thank you.
growing girl,
this is beyond the scope of your local orthodox rabbi using a rov you know will help you. My Rosh yeshiva had a similar story witha talmidah of his in a seminary and he spoke to the gedolim for her. He had much better access than she would have otherwise.
Speak to your rav or the head of your seminary. He will help you with the situation and get in touch with a major posek to help you.
Having a rov you know will help and make it easier.
sin no, “don’t go there”, yes. your wife is always best at everything.
Mod if you’d live in Mexico ashkenazi food would be different, just saying. But you’re a smart man not sharing your sentiments with your wife.
you brought up Europe. If the way it was, is the only way it should be, then that should apply to boys as well.
“I am all for girls learning, but the need PRACTICAL hashkafic and mussar lessons”
I agree with this. Hilchos kashrus and shabbos are extremely important for women to learn.
as is strong haskafa, that’s the bottom line reason people spend more than they can afford on seminary(even if they themselves dont know it is). give your daughter a strong hashkafic foundation so the Toras Imecha is true and right.
Mesorah, yeah I agree with the importance of that and B”H have a long and respected yichus that makes more of a believer in mesorah. that said, don’t compare to the “heim” because we arent in Europe and boys today are taught very different than in Europe.
superbabi is right, the system makes it hard to play with.
I checked after the 2nd date and think thats the perfect time for standard yeshivish type dating.
The R’ Shach story isn’t documented so people that dont see the story as positive shouldn’t beleive it.
theprof getting snarky. classic case of not what I do = not frum.
“In Europe no woman knew how to read Meforshim and our Grandparents turned out just fine.”
we arent discussing how to raise our grandparents we are discussing how to raise our children in America.
95% goyim doesnt mean no jews. there are thousands in the greater NY area outside of bklyn.
Many seminaries require the girls to make at least 1 meal for themselves.
Most kids learn from their mother growing up (at least my sisters, wife and cousins did)
I tried hinting to my wife that I want the R’ Miller shiurpod but at $1800 it’s a little too much.
In America in outside of Brooklyn it’s practically a must to know how to drive, therefore yes they should.
To me Miami was worse oritzus because of the hefkeirus of the “frum” people there. In LA the pritzus wasnt from “unzerer”.
To me (3 young kids)if I had an opportunity to move out of town* at this point I would (assuming money/cost of living was worthwhile).
*frum community and schools.
Thank you Sac and BP for your posts, the rest of you can take lessons;).
It’s not reasonable to expect a family to pay for every second date.
Shadchanus like sales is a result based profession, close the deal get paid.
Does anyone have anything to add besides the abortion issue?
“Pointing out the faults of a politician who is Jewish is not loshon hara. It is making the obvious known.”
It seems like you’re justifying but is this halachacly correct?
R’ Yehuda Levin may know shas but too often he argues with the mainstream.
I don’t normally frequent this thread but I think you’re guilty of thinking too deep here. especially the way it was phrased, it was kind of “george washington’s white horse”.