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Why send a letter? Just call on the phone.
My son took a farher in a yeshiva and a week later a representative of the Rosh yeshiva called to speak with him and told him they would be happy to have him join the yeshiva and to give a message to his parents that the administrative office would contact them in a few weeks.
Joseph. Many are in half day seminaries in the US while simultaneously working or attending college.
If you think that there is no societel pressure then I’m curious how people interpret the shidduch statements such as “the right camps and seminaries” or how those parents deal with questions such as “why didmt she go to seminary as if the as seminaries in the US are not.
If you believe I’m coming from a standpoint of jealousy then you don’t know me. For starters I’m a parent of mostly boys and if things in the futur eare as they are today I won’t have a srminary eligible daughter or one in shidduchim for almost 10 years.
I work with people associated with a NY based seminary and help them with some of the logistics and have met many of their students. They are happy for those who have the opportunity to study overseas and are also happy that societal prejudice against those who did not is slowly eroding. Some even express the point I made earlier. They are being suggested shidduchim after pesach of their first post high school year when appropriate and they feel it is to their advantage. Is it? I don’t know, but they feel it is.
I was on 13th avenue in BP earlier today. Plenty of honking. Not a taxi in sight. I wonder where he lives.
I don’t know what motivated you to wear a hat perhaps if you shared your motivation we could offer advice.
If the motivation is simply to fit in then buy whatever they sell everyone else. I suspect that isn’t the motivation though.
Writersoul. In glad your experience was a positive and meaningful one. Unfortunately your last paragraph applies only in fantasy land. Societal pressure has dictated for a while that seminary is for all.
I am saying they are being redt shidduchim sooner, since they are here and the others are not. I did not make any claims about actually getting a date or getting married sooner. Admittedly, it would make for an interesting study.
Must the hat be orthodox in order to wear it on shabbos? Would it be muktza if it wasnt orthodox?
“more girls are skipping seminary in Israel.”
the proliferation of seminaries in the USA over the last 3 years bears this out.
in a twist of irony, parents of young women who go to e’y for the year are often advised by shadchanim to wait a few months so their daughters can readjust while those who go to seminary in the US are already being redt shidduchim by the time pesach of their 1st yr out of high school rolls around (often sooner). these girls often have 3/4 a year to a year head start in shidduchim turning the “its the right thing for shidduchim” argument on its head.
“Cruz’s father was an alien”
Klingon?
Does speaking to a co-worker about work related matters fall under the category of sicha, if not, the mishna is not applicable at all.
Excellence are you a male or a female.
Yes. In english we would say listen up. I also know what Herr means in German.
“It seems, at least from the CR, that there are an awful lot of girls looking for such a shidduch…”
Yes, but are their parents, teachers and friends? She might want one thing, but will look for something else because that is what everyone else expects her to look for.
Pomegranate: A chambered, many-seeded, globose fruit, having a tough, usually red rind and surmounted by a crown of calyx lobes, the edible portion consisting of pleasantly acid flesh developed from the outer seed coat.
“Herr Noh”
That would be Frau Noh. He didnt use titles.
As a bachur I ate by a family on shabbos and assumed the lady of the house was named Herna. Everytime her husband wanted something from her it was “Herna, the fish please”, “Herna, mind if we sing zemiros now”?
Since you dont know who he is or what his qualifications for writing such a book are, you trash it?
If moshiach will be born of this union then I’ll grant you, it was bashert.
“a single couple”
I’ll add this to my list of oxymorons.
“So if someone cannot afford full yeshiva tuition, they should send their kids to public school?”
I would like to believe that no matter what neighborhood a person lived in anywhere in the world, if he was an ehrlicher yid who was forced by circumstances beyond his control to send his kids to public school, that the frum community would step up and make the appropriate arrangements.
That said. If public school is the only option, the person is living in the wrong city.
“Perhaps that was the RBSO’s plan to get the Bashert’s together?”
I didnt finish all shas(yet), so I can not say this definitvely, but am reasonably certain that even though harbeh shluchim lamakom, this is not one of them.
I know it’s Adar but surely there are limits to the the craziness.
Bentzion: You asked “What does everyone here think of young couples inviting each other over for Seudas on Shabbos?”
I told you what I think. For my wife and I, we have our way of doing things. This doesnt mean what we do is what everyone should do. It is what I think works for us.
After asking the forum what we think, you told us what you think.
“Personally I think it’s a nice thing as new friendships are made,”
And then you told us what “someone” thinks.
“but someone told me that it’s the wrong thing to do as it causes jealousy (wife, apartment etc).”
I chose to answer your question, not opine on what you or someone else thinks. That is for you and your spouse or for someone and his/her spouse to discuss.
“Yes, but the author was an expert on the subject matter”
why assume differently here?
The shulchan aruch is a “popular Halacha book”. Just saying.
Then it would be reb goy
She accepted on himself?
I dont live in Rockland county or Lakewood and do t really understand all the issues in either situation. One thing seems clear though. They don’t belong in the same discussion. The situations based on how they are portrayed here are very different from each other.
we have often invited couples where my wife is friendly with the mrs. and me with the mr. she shmoozes with her friend about lady things, i shmooze with my friend about men stuff and talk divrei torah and we all enjoy a nice shabbos seuda.
I address everyone as Reb Yid.
There are, if i am not mistaken, 63 seats in the ny state senate and 150 in the assembly. it is possible to have a heavily democratic assembly district in an overall republican senate district.
in most third world countries
Make the correction for him. You know what he wanted to say.
I would call them observant.
When I was in elementary school we all used to call the secretary by her name, Chani. After she got married our Rebbe heard us calling her Chani and he told us that now that she is married we should call her Mrs. Schwartz (Chani and Mrs. Schwartz are made up names to protect the innocent, the story is not).
In my shul the women are never counted for the minyan.
Thequeen. Obviously they don’t help enough or you wouldn’t be overwhelmed with mounds of laundry.
One observation. When the princes and princesses have to do their own laundry the piles are not as large. Suddenly the shirt or top worn for 90 minutes is not laundrybans gets put away instead.
If the burden of support was shifted to the boys parents I assure you there would be more unmarried boys of all ages then girls.
If the litvishe gefolim in ey are on board with your plan, why don’t they send home all American bachurim En masse? Why are yeshivos in ey actively recruiting my 21 year old son of they are on board with your plan.
I think the problem in today’s generation is that too many people are Kol korei hidden and don’t have a Rav.
I can tell you how many are actively encouraging it. None.
I was responding to the maturity and responsibility. No responsibilities no big deal.
Like I wrote in a different thread. Just call it thurday night chulent on sunday night.
In our castle, when the princes and princesses reach a certain age, they are given directions to the laundry room, a course in how to use the washer and dryer are given their very own laundry basket and if they want clean clothes they put their newfound knowledge to use.
“in the chassidish world many are heads of household.”
generalizations are always bad and the 2 young chassidishe couples i know are hardly proof of anything, but, these 2 couples eat all meals by mommy. all bills are paid by tatty. the only thing that changed from one day to the next is that they have a new roomate. how difficult is it to be a head of such a household?
Perhaps the extra girls on shidduch island should marry chassidim.
“”I’m sure there’s more…
He is a kattan.
using the shidduch island analogy I think the problem is not that we have an excess of girls on shidduch island, but rather there are barriers in place that keep people off the island altogether.
for some, the admission price to the island is simply to high. you wont promise $X for x years, you are not invited.
for some admission is based on their ability to fit neatly into the little boxes we created. wrong yeshiva. wrong by. wrong camp. wrong tableware on shabbos. not balebattishe enough. too heimish.
the problem, I think, is exacerbated by the fact that when people hit a certain age, they accidently disembark on fantasy island instead of shidduch island.
It is a mishna in avos. Kul haboreach min hakavod…..
There you go, go to Zenni.
What is the case of Nascha D’Rav Abba?
“And can we stop with citing a single, solitary example to disprove a point?”
The gemaras list is not a single solitary instance.