apushatayid

OK. Who did you whack upside the head?

Yes. Good sportsmanship is a tradition at sporting events.

Unfortunately, way to many frum yidden have shown up on true reality tv, the news, accused of many unsavory things.

Unfortunately, for some people these shows are as close as they will ever get to reality.

You have a baby goat? And it draws? Sell it to the Ripleys museum.

Im certain I would sooner notice a nose ring than any color nail polish.

“There are frum musicians whose audience isn’t frum, and I wouldn’t call their music “Jewish music”.”

There are many not frum and even not jewish musicians whose audience is frum (a good percentage of the musicians who play in todays bands at weddings). Does this mean people are dancing to non jewish music at weddings?

“shuls that offer free coffee buy nestles tasters choice house blend because it generally the cheapest available.”

Great Value (Walmart house brand) instant coffee is half the price (almost), those uppidty shuls by tasters choice!??!

Re: “pop out”. In some circles studs in the tongue, cheek piercings and bald tatood heads don’t pop out. In some places skimpy clothing doesn’t pop out”. Are you sure “popping out” is the standard to apply?

“Machine invented by a Mumar”

Please clarify.

Whether she was his sister or some distant cousin, it is irrelevant. The bottom line is that whoever he was, he wasnt her father and likely had little say in what she did or didnt do.

Better yet, have them settle it with thumb wrestling. the more developed thumb from all those svaros will prove who his smarter.

I dont think anyone should “do” the daf. Learning it, is quite another thing. Anyone can daven up a daf of gemara in 12 minutes flat. Less if they just read it off the english side. Certainly one would get schar for reading the words, but is that worth it at the expense of learning through a sugya and understanding it?

DY. I think you are mixing up two stories. But, it is really not the point of the conversation at hand, so forget it.

They don’t say lidovid during elul.

Classic dichotomy.

When non cows milk provides hersheys or breyers the same incentive to cheat as fudging emissions tests or hiding losses on bad investments did for those, I will retract my statement.

did they have fresh dairy shabbos morning too?

“Heichan Matzinu that an Isha can make any brocha that requires a minyan to say it,”

Are you certain a minyan is required to say the last 2 of the “sheva brachos”. See the many rishonim on the sugya in kesubos who say if the chassan is eating alone he says the bracha.

I dont know what the psak is. I do know what the minhag is. The minhag is that someone, other than the chassan and kallah say all the brachos, despite the fact that they might be birchas hashevach.

“The question at hand is if Noshim are allowed to make the brocha.”

Let me play devils advocate. Are they forbidden from making other birchas hashevach (if they hear thunder for example are they forbidden from making the bracha)?

The “thing” with all the hebrew letter is a copy and paste from kitzur shulchan aruch that came out all wrong, including many of the hebrew letters that got lost in the paste.

“IIRC, Sheva Brachos are Me’akev (Kallah B’lo Bracha).”

I’ll have to look it up again, but I am fairly certain “kallah blo bracha” refers to birchas erusin, not birchas chasanim (IE sheva brachos).

Also, from the sugya in Kesubos (daf zayin amud beis I believe) and some of the rishonim (some, by no means all), it is possible the last 2, and almost certainly the very last of the sheva brachos the chosson would recite by himself by birchas hamazon if he was eating by himself. So it is not a chiddush in halacha that a chassan might at some time say this bracha. To extend it to a situation where there is clearly a minyan of other people and to go against the common minhag, that is certainly controversial.

“So it might be a fair Taana to claim that women not saying Sheva Brachos is just Al Pi circumstance (women couldn’t read for most of our history)”

What does reciting a bracha have to do with learning how to read? women have been lighting shabbos candles, going to the mikvah, eating food and reciting brachos on these for thousands of years. The gemara discusses women being motzi men with birchas hamazon. Clearly, reciting a bracha and the ability to read are not dependent one on the other. Moreover, who said women couldnt read in the time of the aruch hashulchan? They already printed seforim such as Tzena Urena for women, would have been pretty useless if they couldnt read.

I only brought the Aruch Hashulchan (who says it is implied in the Rambam) for the purpose of showing a source the birchas chasanim should be recited by someone other than the chosson (and I suppose by extension, the kallah). If one wanted to call up aunt sarah to recite one of the brachos under the chuppa, that would be an entirely different discussion.

This particular thread addresses the situation where the chassan and kallah jointly recited two brachos under their chuppa, the Aruch Hashulchan writes clearly that the minhag is for someone other than the chosson (and kallah) to recite these brachos.

GAW. See aruch hashulchan even haezer, siman samech beis, sif tes.

Source enough regarding who should make birchas chasanim?

“apushatayid – I’m not convinced that an Isha making the brocha would be “bending” Halacha, and no one here has shown me otherwise.”

GAW. Why are you harping on the woman. The Chassan too. Im not an expert, but the nusach habracha indicates someone other than the chosson and/or kallah should be saying the bracha.

Why must you choose a particular chasdidus when what you really want is a Rebbe. Try Emunas Yisroel, or has been mentioned Aish Kodesh in Woodmere. If you want to stick to Brooklyn the Kletzkys Rav, Rav Eisenberger is another.

If the Rebbe you choose happens to lead a Chasdidus ok , but why limit yourself.