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So, you are asserting that you have first hand knowledge that he does not have proper procedure or protocol to enforce his own standards? OK, so you should absolutely not eat anything that he certifies. I on the other hand have spoken with knowledgeable and reliable kashrus “professionals” (for lack of a better word) who say otherwise and if there is a product with said certification where his standards meet what I set for my home, I will have no problem buying it and eating it.
#1292054 is the most troubling. They again, we dont have to rely on a daas yochid.
IF.
To paraphrase other people from other “discussions” on YWN.
It must be true, otherwise the moderators would not have let it through.
There are MANY products with triangle K that I do not use (probably the vast majority of products certified by triangle k) because the standards of the certification fall short of those that I hold for myself and my family. That is very different than the assertion some made that he is merely a fee collector and does not ensure his own standards are met. I am not arguing one should, or should not rely on his standards, that is for your Rav to tell you. I AM arguing, that you can rely on him to ensure that whatever standards he does have, are being met. Like my earliest comment in this thread, made several days ago, there are two aspects to every certification its standards and the procedures in place to ensure those standards are met. I am not arguing the triangle k is acceptable to me (and in fact to most of my social circles) based on its standards, however, I dont have reason to believe, and kashrus experts tell me that he can be relied upon to ensure his own standards are being met.
If you wish to persist in your arguments that he is not reliable to ensure his own standards are being met, that is something you can clarify, but I will not pursue further on this forum. There is no toeles to that angle being discussed.
“Just go with any reputable chassideshe hashgacha, the gold standard of kashruth”
their standards may be golden, but their ability to ensure those standards are being met may not be. caveat emptor.
“By claiming not to understand why others don’t see things as clearly as you do and why they don’t become chabad you are in effect dismissing their hashkafas”
classic missionarry tactic.
Re. Non neighborhood members. Wouldnt that run counter to “members on every block” comment you made earlier regarding response times? Have you ever tried to legitimately consider someone else’s concerns or feelings (that was a rhetorical question).
When a woman is in advanced stages labor she may not want the guy who eats chulent and kugel with her husband on thursday night rushing her to the hospital. she almost certainly doesnt want him delivering her baby if they wont make it to the hospital on time. A woman who has been through labor and delivery would be able to explain that to you way better than I can.
dont call them if you dont like them. is very simple. it isnt their fault someone doesnt know hatzalas number by heart or that hatzalas stickers are orange and black.
From the EN website.
“The motivation behind Ezras Nashim was to respond to Emergency labor and OB/GYN emergencies; however, to serve the needs of the community, we are also responding to pediatric, adolescent and geriatric emergencies. We also provide follow-up phone calls and visits.”
How many of the 1st 9 responses were written by a woman?
Btw, their numbers are very similar.
One is 718-232-1300
One is 718-230-1000Will you blame the Brooklyn Public Library system too? Their number is, 718-230-2100
Besides for the aleph beis, the only thing I remember from kindergarten is the song, “two three oh one oh oh oh, thats hatzalahs number, call it in an emergency and youll get help soon youll see.”
Rav Yeshuad Hachasid and the chasidei ashkenaz were followers of which chassidic group?
What about “hahu chasid” the gemara sometimes refers to, which chasidus did he belong to?
What about the bird mentioned in the torah, “chasidah”.@Joseph. So, you TOO are arguing that a certain named agency does little to nothing to ensure whatever standards it may have are not met and instead is nothing but a fee collector.
To answer your question. I would ask my Rav if it was permissible. Then, I would ask him if the YWN coffee room was a legitimate place to make such information known. I would then ask him if it appropriate to do so anonymously in a forum such as this, assuming such a forum was in fact legitimate.
@Syag. I am more acquainted with the situation at hand then you are, of that I’m sure.
Brave of both of you to anonymously take pot shots at someone. At least some bloggers have the decency (courage?) to use their real name on their sites.
“And how would you articulate the substance and tone of this protest”
1: It is not a protest.
2: I will not be at Barclay Center this sunday because my Rebbe is encouraging everyone to stay in the Beis Medrash and learn.
3: I too have cousins and nephews in the IDF. I have no problems explaining to them the stated goals of the organizers as I understand it explained in advertisements taken out in local Brooklyn, NY paper.
4: That an event promoted and advertised to thousands of people will attract crazies, people with their own agendas and even those whose agenda is diametrically opposed to that of the organizers, I have no doubt.
5: Why are you getting all bent out of shape over this event at Barclay Center?“You don’t know that he doesn’t, and you don’t know that he didn’t. ”
So, this is a permit to degrade someone, for after all, you dont know it isnt true?“go talk to some honest and reliable people in the industry, the information is not difficult to come by.”
Assertions are not difficult to make when anonymously hiding behind a keyboard.Dr.E. I am not making the case for, or against this gathering. (As Zdad pointed out a lot clearer, and more succinctly than I did). The intentions and goals of the organizers must be plainly and clearly spelled out for all attendees (and outsiders) . Otherwise, like this site, the press will be reporting about an anti zionist demonstration at the barclay center, which is not what the organizers are trying to hold.
“I still can’t get over rebdoniel’s assertion that the fact that a hechsher stays in business proves that it’s reliable.”
It may not prove its reliability, but is certainly proves that someone believes it brings value to the product it is on.
Sadly, the saying, there is too much Kash in Kashrus, leaves a dark cloud over kashrus in general.
Many companies use a kashrus symbol as a marketing tool, as some believe it symbolizes some level of quality and purity. It is why products that need no hechsher at all, such as plain bottles water, or, for those who drink non chalav yisroel milk, plain milk have a hechsher on it. It isnt there for any kashrus purpose, but, since the company has a contract with a certifying agency, and, these products are “kosher” the symbol is added anyway because from a marketing standpoint it implies purity.
“Triangle K/Ralbag is completely unreliable. ”
Why do you assert TriangleK/Rabbi Ralbag is unreliable? I dont know him, but have no reason to believe that he doesnt enforce his standards. You (and I) dont agree with the standards held by this certification, thats another story. He isnt asking you to. Making a statement that someone is not reliable is a personal statement and almost certainly violates a number of halachos. I’m surprised the moderators allow such a line to be written.
It should be pointed out, that the event in the barclay center is neither a demonstration or anti zionist. Although to be sure, there will be plenty of demonstrators and anti zionists at the event pushing their own agendas.
There are 2 aspects to every hashgacha.
Its standards.
How well it enforces its standards.When looking into the reliability of a hechsher, look into both aspects.
Bigger question. Why dont boys have yeshiva on erev shavuos, at the very least a friday schedule when most girls schools do?
“It would be great if one or two organizations would schedule a counterprotest outside of Barclay’s against this Chillul Hashem. ”
I know of one yeshiva that instructed its talmidim to stay in the beis medrash next sunday.
“The technology Asifa was a roaring success.”
Believe what you want. it was in the opinion of all those sitting in my section and who shared the trip back home with me, a resounding question mark. People walked away with more questions than answers. Many people didnt even know what was being said because yiddish is perhaps their third language. The local community asifas led by local Rabbonim who were able to communicate (literally) with their kehillos, and offer practical day to day guidance was way more beneficial than anything done at citifield.
” As a direct result of it you, today, have TAG offices worldwide helping Yidden install filters, ”
something many folks were blissfully unaware of before the worldwide series of technology Asifas that took place starting at Citifield.”If you think people were blissfully unaware that filters existed, you would likely believe anything. People installed filters because they were forced to. You want your kid in this yeshiva, you better have a filter. you want your kid to have a phone, it better have a filter, or we will confiscate it and never return it.
Either way, as it relates to this asifa. If the goal is not clear to the attendees and they walk away scratching their heads, i cant imagine ever getting people to another asifa (unless someone twisted their arm).
this has zero to do with the event at the barclay center next week. but one can counter this statement “But not all frum Americans are aware of the crimes the Zionists are committing against Bnei Torah and the frum community. ” with the following, “But not all frum Americans are aware of the crimes many so called frum people are committing against Bnei Torah and the frum community with their financial shenanigans and the covering up certain behaviors” that an Asifa wouldnt help spread awareness.
My biggest fear is that this asifa will go the way of the technology asifa in citi field. noble intentions, but people walking out scratching their heads wondering what they just spent the last 4 hours listening to and become nothing but grist for the laitzanus mill.
@Joseph. Im not your Rebbe, I dont know you, your strengths, weaknesses, or potential in any given area to make such a determination. Ask your Rebbe.
“Is it permitted, or is it like eating Matzoh before the Seder? ”
In fact, some have a chumra not to learn 30 days before shavuos (others are meikel and only start from rosh chodesh).
The best job is called Eved Hashem. There are many aspects to that position. Saying a chaburah in a kollel is one of them. so is earning a paycheck working as a CPA or baking rugelach. Speak to your Rav/Rebbe/Mashpia, Madricha, or whatever it is you call the person who you turn to for guidance, to help determine how you can be the best eved hashem you can be.
TV is MUCH better than internet, if someone would ask me, “I am going to watch the TV shows and movies online anyway, should I buy a TV or watch online” I would tell him to buy an expensive flat panel high resoltion TV. At least you cant badmouth other people, spread laitzanus or worse belittle gedolei torah or torah institutions like you can with access to a keyboard.
“Its a demonstration against the draft. ”
Is it?
“Since you use your mouth all the time to talk, it’s hard to always be careful not to speak l’h. ”
Yet, those same people dont use their mouth for nivul peh, to talk pritzus or even discuss their own shortcomings (generally speaking). people use their feet all the time, yet they dont go around kicking people.
I dont think it is so much the mouth as it is, what one is used to using the mouth for. just about anyone will tell you, stop using foul language, or stop discussing such a prust topic, but, how many will tell you stop speaking lashon hara.
Watching TV online, is simply the yetser hara convincing you it is ok.
I dont think they really think that. I think they know good and well that they are wrong, but, in the spirit of “nish oif shabbos geredt, but…”, by somehow watching online and not through a box called television, is somehow makes it “not so bad” in their minds.
why is this being billed by some ywn “experts” as a Satmar anti Zionist event when it doesnt appear to be driven by satmar, or anti zionism.
Jesus is also a jewish name (it is an anglicised version of the latin version of the greek version of the hebrew name yeshua).
Doesnt mean it is a name you should give your kid.
“Its not worse, its just so people can say “we dont have a TV”
There was a time TVs were delivered to certain neighborhoods in AC boxes.
50,000 thousand?
From the Barclay Center website:
“Barclays Center, which opened on September 28, 2012, offers 17,732 seats for basketball, 15,795 for hockey, and up to 19,000 seats for concerts, and has 101 luxury suites, four bars/lounges, four clubs, and 40/40 CLUB & Restaurant by American Express.”
Perhaps the additional 30,000 people will tune in via pay per view?
“You can’t carry the NYC subway system in your pocket where you can access it 24 hours a day.”
This proves the point I was making. A wonderful sound bite, that ignores the real problem.
“(why would i want to use this small screen when I have a comfortable laptop?),”
Let me play devils advocate (literally). This “small screen” is easier to use unobtrusively than a larger laptop and you know, “just this once” let me see what else this thing can do.
“You can’t carry the NYC subway system in your pocket where you can access it 24 hours a day.”
No need to shlep it around with you, it is right there waiting for you though. 24×7.Vkara shmo bisroel, george?
technology has become a euphamism for anything and everything that provides access to the world that is anti torah and yiras shamayim. that world may exist somewhere in cyberspace or down the block. sadly, it causes people to think that making sure people dont have smartphones, and doing everything possible to make sure they dont is the be all and end all to the problem. for $2.75 one can access the technology known as the nyc subway system, ride for 30 minutes and expose themselves to the very same shmutz.
I fully expect the talmidim of the pnovozher rav z’l, the roshei yeshiva of torah vodaas and the satmar rebbe z’l to follow the opinion expressed by their rebbe, rosh yeshiva. whatever it may be.
So, to dan lekaf zechus kiddush clubs everywhere…..
They dont eat before davening because of “lo sochal al hadam”, and once they daven shachris they cant eat anything until they make kiddush, so, they do. They make sure to eat enough mezonos so that it qualifies as a seudah too.
“If such a situation already arose, it is too late to ask a rav.”
No it isnt. It can happen again.” Anyway, I don’t need to ask a rav, even if such a situation arose, because the halacha is clear that one may not speak during bentching.”
So, why are you asking us here?
If you are concerned about being interuppted during asher yatzar. go quickly back to your desk, pick up the phone like you have a call and sau the bracha. Unless your boss/coworker is a complete dolt, they wont interrupt.
while your at it, skip the tapes and forget secular studies altogether and save a few more dollars.
Many horrible Yeshivas all over, including Lakewood. Many wonderful Yeshivas all over, including Lakewood.
“(Could be hard for a goy to pronounce).”
Therefore? If you are expected to deal with Shaniqua, Ramparparinder, Toupac and Xio Liu then there is no reason to be concerned with Yechezkel or Yerachmiel.
I dont know your circumstances, but, walk in implies you have an office. If bentching, shut the door. Otherwise, ask you Rav.