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So I guess your saying its ok, as long as everyones hat is yelling “look at me”?
Furthermore, male “cows” (technically no such thing, they are called bulls or steer)don’t produce milk, nor do youg female cows that have not had calves (called heifers). Since these do not produce milk, are they permitted to be cooked with milk? Furthermore, according to the logic posed by the question, the question should be limited to chickens not roosters. Why meat and milk to be eaten together (even if not cooked together) or cooked together (even if not eaten) and is assur to have haana from the mixture (even if not eating it or you didn’t cook it) is a chok from the torah. We don’t know the reason.
I think the idea that “one came from the other” is someone mixing up “oso ves bno” and “basar bichalav”.
I don’t think the hats described scream “look at me” any louder than some
Borsalinos found on many men.
Perhaps we can bus the kids to brooklyn too, they will leave home early and get home very late, thus alleviating the problem of kids at home without mommy.
“Myfriend”. Perhaps it is your problem with daas torah that leads you to interpret the way you do, and then assume its what I mean.
WIY. If you believe I am making fun of daas torah and have no respect for it, that’s your perogative. You are entitled to your belief, as wrong and as misguided as it might be.
WIY. My respect for Daas Torah is directly proportional to the amount of Daas displayed and Torah acquired by any individual. Suffice to say I don’t have much respect for you.
WIY. I refer you to a Kli Yakar in parshas Naso that explains the difference between a Nazir who becomes tamei and one who does not.
Ok. We’ll modify the joke to pacify the complainers.
An askan witnessed the exchange between Rosh Yeshiva and Rebbetzin and quickly wrote up a letter that he had signed by everyone with the surname Shlita. From that day on, its been separate seating.
Back to the tablecloth. Rav Zinner in his Nitay Gavriel, Siman Lamed Vav Sif Vav says as a matter of fact that the inside tables should be covered with a tablecloth Likovod Yom Tov. He brings down three sources in his footnotes. He doesn’t bring down a dissenting opinion.
My family minhag is to wear tefillin on chol hamoed. Some family members moved to E’Y and were told by their Rav that they should continue to do so, only “bitzina”, in their case, at home.
The teacher who taught this, should be severely reprimanded and threatened with firing if she repeats this to another student.
Hashem wants you to daven. Period. He doesn’t want you to keep a counter for each perek tehillim, for each shmoneh esrei or chessed that you do. If someone is ill, daven for them, again, without a counter. As to why that person is ill, that’s the ribbono shel olams business not mine or yours.
About 15 years ago, I had a job where ” neat appearance” was part of the company dress code and which was enforced “kichut hasayray – I remember a manager using a tape measure on a womans skirt to see if it met the “no more than 2 inches above the knee policy. This included being either clean shaven or a neatly trimmed beard. When I was hired and was given the employee handbook review by HR, I mentioned Chol Hamoed, sefira and the three weeks to them and they gave me a “hetter” to ignore the handbook (I got it in writing, although I never asked for it, HR sent me the confirming memo on their own). A few years later, during sefira, my manager (a non jew)approached me and told me about an upcoming sales show where I would be presenting something and it would be extremely important if I gave off a proper impression, including appearance. He asked me to speak to my Rabbi about the permissibility to shave.
The point of all this?
This scenario sounds contrived. if I was writing the answer for this column, I would reply that they are all wrong. If the boy has a monetary claim for support against the girls father, he should take him to beis din. If the girl has a monetary claim against her husband for not supporting her, she should take him to beis din. Once in beis din, where the monetary issue will be decided, I’m sure they will also recommend counseling for the whole lot. In short, my advise would be, go to a rav for a din torah.
Anyway, about the tablecloth. We had one on the dining room table likovod Yom Tov as we always do. When we went running in from the succah the first night as it started pouring, we had a “shulchan aruch” all ready to go to continue our seudah (which at that point meant basicly finishing up – we purposely rushed things due to the forcast).
People should learn to control themselves when it comes to using technology. This is true of talking, texting and browsing. Just ask all those people facing manslaughter (or worse) charges for the damage done texting and driving. Blaming the blackberry or phone is the last tactic the defense attorney will try. Its nice to look for excuses, but at the end of the day it is a matter of self control, or lack thereof.
EVERYONE lies?
(Written with tongue firmly planted in cheek). If girls were able to read and understand Aramaic, I wonder how many of them would hold their husbands to the terms of their Kesubah. Perhaps this is why we don’t teach them gemara?
Anyone familiar with a resource that details carbs for different wines? I know Rabbi Meisels once put something out but the list was far from exhaustive?
Has anyone ever looked into the following for the carb/8 oz?
White Joyvin
Moscato de Asti
Is there a general rule of thumb to use?
No, I did not say that the rebbe is full of anything. I said he stems from a long line of “fullabulla rebbes”. The “heiliger admor” whose quotes are being debated so heatedly doesn’t exist. He and his heiliger forbearers are basicly a bunch of bull.
Cellphones didn’t do anything. Cellphones never did anything and unless some drastic new technology comes down the pipe, cellphones will never do anything.
I don’t believe the “heilger” admor of shaputnik or the shapitzniker or whatever he called them exist. I think some people are getting carried away and getting all excited by the remarks made by a non existent “heiliger admor”.
With that said, no, I didn’t say that the fictional admor was full of bull, I did say that this fictional admor is descended from a long like of fullabulla rebbes.
Actually, what I meant was, did this fellow discuss his plans to get divorced with his rosh yeshiva, and if he did, what advice did he get? If he didn’t, why not.
It is my understanding that the Shaptznicker Shlita is descended from the FullaBulla dynasty that originated somewhere deep in Transylvania.
Ben Torah. Are you saying that his comment about yeshiva bachurim dressing the same way as other people (ie, hats and jackets), is incorrect?
What does this guys rosh yeshiva say?
Cell phones are great. Its a shame they are misused. I think this is best answered as follows. To paraphrase the gemara “nimnu vigamru, tov liadam shelo nivra, aval, acshav shenivru….” Now that hashem saw fit for the technology to be available, let’s use it appropriately.
Wow, Kew Gardens Hills, Far Rockaway and Passaic are “out of town”?
Is it appropriate to apply the passuk “shomer pisayim hashem”?
80:Perhaps YWN needs a few extra moderators during bein hazmanim? I have a few kids with nothing to do 🙂
“The situation is that a learning boy is in demand and therefore he can ask for things which you may find unreasonable and come from an attitude entitlement and still get it because thats what other guys are getting”
Exactly, and if he doesnt get it from this class of graduating high school or seminary girls, he will hold out for a girl from the next class. Leaving the other girls to grow older and either change their minds about a “learning boy”, or they will have been working for 3-4 years and have their own money put away to live on for a couple of years, or more, depending on their job. And we wonder why we have older singles?
So he took the job at 40. I guess thats when he decided “OK I’m a talmid chacham” no more support from the shver, time to get a job? I’m only taking my fellow CR commentators statement to its logical conclusion.
“You are right but many learning boys have this attitude because thats the reality of the shidduch scene today”
Who created such a rotten attitude?
TheProf. I am a litvak through and through, dont know anyone whoever “bishowed” (is that a correct verb?) before. What happens if the parents cant agree on the “financial stuff” but the boy and girl want to “talk” again because it went very well? what if this happens several nights in a row? Am being curious, not critical.
“What’s wrong with therapy?”
Nothing, as long as the therapists hashkafos are rooted in torah sources.
“What is the purpose of girls going to Seminary?”
Someone has to memorize every Ramban and Radak in Trei Asar. Who else if not for seminary girls.
“perhaps it stems from the fact that it is reasonable for a man to look for a WIFE that is able to support the family until such time that he fulfills his chiyuv to become a talmid chacham”
I’m not sure one can say “ok, I’m now a talmid chacham”, if that were the case, R’ Elyashiv Shlita would have taken a job a long time ago.
For a bachur a “premier individual” level of membership with the Wildlife Conservation Society may not be a bad a bad idea. It gets you admission for 2 into all 5 of the zoos in NYC as well as the aquarium, free admission to the bronx zoo attractions (cable cars etc) and even 4 parking passes for use at either zoo or aquarium. Its good for a year. Hopefully you wont get stares from the people at the entrance if you show up every sunday with another girl. When the weather is nice, being outdoors is way better than sitting indoors and eating or shmoozing. Even in the winter, unless it is bitter cold, it is pretty enjoyable. membership at this level is $94 a year and if things work out with the girl you can upgrade to family membership for another $55.
Ben Torah. Again. Dowry does not = support in the context that it is being used here. Support in the current context was for the very best bachurim.
And you ARE correct it is NOT incumbent upon ANY bachur to marry any girl who does not come along with a dowry OR a commitment of support. The problem I think people have is that it has simply become the expectation that not only is a dowry provided, but dowry has been redefined to also mean supporting AND it is something that must be done for every bachur, for after all, every bachur is the best in the chaburah.
I think what people want to say, but are afraid to say, is that shidduchim has almost become a game where you shakedown (and yes, I am aware of the implications of this term)the parents of a girl for “x” just so that you will agree to a date. Please, oh please I hope that AZ is not reading this, but it is my belief that this is THE prime cause of todays shidduch problems. Too many parents either refuse to be shaken down or simply do not have the financial ability to pony up the cash demanded.
Ben torah. “support” does not = “dowry”. they are 2 different words, both in english and yiddish. This is how Websters defines the word dowry.
Definition of DOWRY
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archaic : dower 1
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: the money, goods, or estate that a woman brings to her husband in marriage
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: a gift of money or property by a man to or for his bride
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: a natural talent
moreover, lets assume that supporting a family for “x” years IS a dowry, the argument that it has been done this way for quite some time is only partially true. Yes, the girls parents gave a dowry, for the BEST bachur. It was NOT common for ALL bachurim to be supported by their inlaws. Saying otherwise is revisionist history.
I have no problem if ANYONE wants to support their son, son inaw, daughter or daughter inlaw for 5,10, or 100 years. I am just disagreeing with some of the comments being incorrectly thrown around.
“Supporting the boy allows him to continue learning Torah HaKedosha full-time. That is a major accomplishment and zechus.”
Why has this zchus fallen on the shoulders of the girls parents? dont the boys parents want a share of this great accomplishment and zechus?
G7. I’m not certain you understood my point. If the sukkah is the diras kevah, why does it apply only to the table.
I also dont undersatand your chiluk. you wrote “I would always want areas that I spend any time in to be clean and organized. And that is why I will clean my office, garage, attic, etc.”. You dont spend time in your living room? Im timtza lomar not on succos because your succah is your living room, then why doesnt the svara of the chazon ish apply?
Send them to work with your husband.
WIY. Are you disagreeing with a point I made?
Mybat. I’m not sure I understand the implication of teaching that to them.
When I was in camp guys used to run around without shirts (usually just a pair of their on their backs). At first they were told “its not proper to go around dressed that way”. They counter argued “but its just guys”. finally it was explained that a yid doesnt run around without a shirt, no matter who is around. its not your classic “tznius” issue. It is an issue of what is proper. If girls should dress a certain way, it is not relevant what the effect is on males. if it appropriate to dress a certain way, it is not appropriate. Would it be proper for a BY girl to dress like lady gaga if only women were around?
What I meant was. Hatznea Leches is between me and hashem. not between me and you.
Oomis. All I wrote is “hatznea leches has nothing to do with the people around you.” Meaning it is about me, not about you. What about that line do you disagree with?
Totally off the topic, but I couldnt let this comment pass without commenting.
“kindheartedness is very appropriate but not legislated by law unlike tznius, hence tznius clearly being more important.”
There are a number of mitzvos, both asai and lo saseh that involve interpersonal relationship. There are many halachos surrounding these mitzvos.
Veahavta leireacha kamocha
Veahavta es hager
Lo Sonu ish es amiso
Vehechazakta bo
to name a few.
They may get lost in the shuffle of everyday life but they are still among the taryag mitzvos. As for what is more important, I will leave that judgement call to the one who gave us the taryag mitzvos to fulfill.
“(BYs do NOT explain anything about how a mans mind works)”
nor should they. its not the ikkar. hatznea leches has nothing to do with the people around you.