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Since we can’t post urls here. Google rabbi Yitzchok schochet response to RCA resolution that was published in Jewish chronicle.
Basically he says the Rebbe never started the messianic mission. The messianic mission as told by pasukim chazal and Rambam is building the bais hamikdosh and kibutz galios etc. A campaign to publicize Moshiach’s coming and getting ready for Moshiach is by no stretch of the imagination considered starting a messianic mission unless one is a crack pot professor and riding a tide of infighting and open hostility towards Chabad etc
July 9, 2023 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2206743anyPotatoKugelLeftParticipant@rightjew your vitriolic response lacks any toichen ie sources other than hot air.
Clearly you have not read thar sefer.
Chabad in essence is saying the same thing as dbei rebbi shiloi, Yanai and chanina…
Someone that is fit to be Moshiach or even a bchezkas Moshiach as explained in the introduction to that sefer hasn’t even begun to fulfill the “Messianic mission” the messianic mission as told by chazal neviyim and Rambam is to build the bais hamikdosh and kibutz galios etc. A campaign to publicize Moshiach’s coming is immanent is in no way shape or form considered a messianic mission. Unless your rabbi is a crack pot professor….
Perhaps actually read the book and the impressive haskamos then comment
July 9, 2023 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2206742anyPotatoKugelLeftParticipant
@avi k not all agados are non literal. Please see Radvaz to Rambam Hilchos melachim perek 11 halacha alef stating Rambam poskened here by using agados and medrahsim same for halacha 3 and 4 which talk about chezkas Moshiach and vadei Moshiach.Ie as shown in Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach Rashi, Yad Ramah, maharsha and others all take the Gemara literally that Moshiach can come from the dead.
Just because that’s a fact does not make it dangerous or have any baring on false messiah’s being sheker…
anyPotatoKugelLeftParticipantAnother thread about Moshiach from the dead. Please see Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach. It shows Moshiach from the dead was a common belief among Chazal and specifically shows Rambam did not rule out Moshiach from the dead l’halacha. It’s a sefer in English and a free download. I bought mine in Judaica Plaza in Lakewood.
July 2, 2023 10:06 am at 10:06 am in reply to: Problem with Melech HaMashiach from the Dead #2204808anyPotatoKugelLeftParticipantKuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach is a sefer written in English that got Litvishe haskamos. The sefer givens a deep dive into the sugia of Moshiach from the dead. It proves it was common belief among Chazal Moshiach could come from the dead and shows instances of students calling their Rav Moshiach while he was alive and continuing to call their Rav Moshiach after he passed away. The sefer also shows Rambam did not rule out Moshiach from the maisim l’Halacha. Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach is a free download and answers all the taanos I have seen in this thread
July 1, 2023 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm in reply to: Problem with Melech HaMashiach from the Dead #2204752anyPotatoKugelLeftParticipantIncredible how much ignorance still exists. Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach was published 2 years ago with haskamos from Litvishe Rebonim. It proves Chazal hold Moshiach can come from the dead for as long as one is considered FIT to be Moshiach even. Yoshke was never considered FIT to be Moshiach even while alive. The book is a free download. I read it. BH it’s a real eye opener.
July 1, 2023 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2204753anyPotatoKugelLeftParticipantThis topic has been settled. Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach is an in depth analysis on what Chazal said about Moshiach coming from the dead. It’s a free download. It was common belief among Chazal Moshiach could come from the dead and Rambam didn’t rule it out l’halacha. The sefer has litvishe haskamos. See this short video from a noted talmid Chochom: link removed
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