anonymous Jew

It’s clear that Reb Eliezer and GH continue to suffer from Trump Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Neither of you have either seen the transcript or seen any of the hearings
A. The transcript does not mention suspension of the aid or a quid pro quo
B. None of the witnesses called by Schiff heard Trump state he wanted a quid pro quo. They testified that they thought Trump was implying it, yet most of the nor only hadn’t ever met Trump, they hadn’t ever met him. This type of testimony would be thrown out by a judge at trial.
C. The only witness who was on the call, the Colonel, said there was no quid pro quo on the call
D. Ambassador Sondland, the big witness, under cross examination admitted he was only presuming a quid pro quo. He then , upon further questioning admitted the following:
1. He called the president subsequent to the July call and asked Trump to clarify what he wanted and Trump responded that he wanted nothing, no quid pro quo. He somehow left this out of his written testimony.
2. He admitted that although the alleged quid pro quo required Zelinsky to make a public statement regarding a Biden investigation before he could get a meeting with Trump and the aid, the aid was released and a meeting was held without the statement.
E. Zelinsky has twice stated that he had not been pressured by Trump and in fact was not even aware the aid was being held.
F. Schiff’s impeachment hearings were one sided. Witnesses were not allowed legal counsel, Republicans were not allowed to call witnesses and most of the hearings were held in secret, with Schiff selectively leaking testimony to the media. Gee, I can’t imagine why Trump wouldn’t cooperate.
G. Refusal to cooperate with Congressional subpoenas is not illegal or an impeachable offense; it’s routine. The Executive is not subservient to the Legislature and has constitutional right to appeal to the Courts , the third branch of government. Had Congress not been in such a rush and appealed to the courts, and Teump still refused, that would be obstruction.
H. The 3 experts called by Nadler were a farce in that they’ve been advocating for impeachment since day one. Korman was so anti Trump that she couldn’t walk past the Trump hotel in Washington without crossing the street. Turley, although called by the Republicans, is a Democrat who voted for Clinton. His point was that the Democrats were incorrectly rushing the process to meet a calendar deadline. In the process too many witnesses hadn’t been called because it would have required time consuming court appeals. He wasn’t saying that Trump was innocent. He said that we were setting a terrible precedent by going forward with an impeachment based upon flimsy proof .

Every ashkenazi wedding I’ve ever been to has been indoors

Quay, you’ve also misrepresented the facts. The Democrats turned the aid bill into a political bill. The humanitarian aid was to expand the number of , among other things, detention beds given the huge numbers attempting to enter illegally. The Democrats, who are for open borders, tied the aid to issues that they had to know the Republicans wouldn’t accept ( the wall , ICE ) , thus holding the illegal immigrants hostage

Recently the UN came out with a negative report on child separation at the border and Reuters, among others, ran with it, attacking Trump. Then it developed that the UN report was based on 2015 data, when Obama was president. The news report disappeared.
The left refuses to recognize that crossing the border illegally is a crime , and that it was Obama who set up the separation practice. Keep in mind that it was the Democrats in January 2019 who refused to appropriate funds to set up family facilities, alleging the border crisis to be a fantasy

Lowertuiyoon, charter schools are considered public schools and are funded by the city

Let’s see, people like Joseph condemn their movement, we’re not allowed to daven even in an empty Conservative sanctuary, we don’t accept their conversions or kashrus standards and we certainly don’t include them in any communal organizations. And we’re surprised they when they won’t work with us?

Vesamachta, how many Ethiopian Jews have been refused treatment and what is your source? I hear the same problem exists with Kenyan and Bangladeshi Jews

This is an old scam. It was being done in Penn Station, Grand Central and the Port Authority Bus Terminal back in the 1980’s.

You’re missing the point. The philosophies of Chassidus and Open Orthodoxy are totally different but the Vilna Gaon viewed Chassidus like we view OO. What I said was the Vilna Gaon treated Chassidus beliefs ( i.e. miracleworker rebbes and visions ) as close to , if not in fact , Kfira and excommunicated them. The Misnagaid vs Chassidus war didn’t calm down until the mid 1800’s when they both realized that they were fighting over a smaller pie as more and more Jews were being lost to the Haskala.
As far as the other arguments, the Satmar factions, Lubavitch vs Satmar etc didn’t just disagree. They had a true personal dislike as there were physical assaults , property damage and ( as Joseph keeps overlooking) long ongoing CIVIL lawsuits in gentile courts

My numbers came from Levi Yitzchak Leifer, head of the Boro Park shmira patrol in an interview in Tablet magazine. And these are violent assaults, not property damage.Not a week goes by without reports of men being assaulted on way to shul on Shabbos . So, 19 assaults ( again only those defined as hate crimes; the 19 doesn’t include “routine” muggings ) makes them extremely safe neighborhoods?

Reb Eliezer, Carter had nothing to do with the Egypt-Israel peace. They did it on their own, an act for which Carter never forgave Begin or Israel

Daas Yachid, I think your missing the point. Anyone is entitled to request a seat change. But they are not entitled to refuse to take their seat and delay departure, and, by and large, I’ve only seen that behavior among those refusing to sit next to a woman.

Joseph, not when 10 to 15 men are making the request and refuse to sit and delay the flight. If I have an aisle seat, I won’t move to a middle seat for a 12 hour flight to accomodate someone who is machmir on sitting next to a woman

Just don’t say it’s a halacha

Unclemo
I don’t use the TriangleK but your comment is worthless if you aren’t willing to name the Rov or the Rov is not willing to publicly own his comments. What if Plony made the same statement you did but with the opposite conclusion? Would you say oh great, now I can try Hebrew National? Of course not. So why do you expect your anonymous assurance of an unnamed Rov to be taken as proof?

Joseph, too many frum yidden have used mesirah as a shield to commit all kinds of bad acts. You block my driveway, I will be more than happy to call the cops.

Katanhatorah, to really get an appreciation of denigration of those who they disagree with, just turn on CNN, MSNBC and any other leftist media. Lying? Just in the past two weeks CNN has had to retract phony stories as did the New York Times , which reported that planes flew themselves into the Trade Towers. You can go on YouTube and find any number of clips where Pres Trump clearly and unambiguously denounces racism, the KKK and white nationalists. Yet , during the last debate, Booker repeated the lie that Trump refuses to denounce racism. And, don’t forget, Warren’s academic career was based upon lying that she had legitimate Native American ancestry.

Last I checked, all baked goods are made in a central location and sent to the store. The problem with stores that sell trief sandwiches is that everything Is warmed in same oven.
DD doesn’t sell ice cream. Some are under same roof as Basken Roberts

Philosopher, I hope no one who feels obligated to spend big bucks on one time gowns turns around and pleads poverty and requests yeshiva tuition reductions.