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You have to go back into Brooklyn history. Until the early 1800’s, Kings County consisted of the Cities of Brooklyn and Williamsburg and the Towns of Flatbush, Bushwick, New Lots, Flatlands and New Utrecht. Williamsburg was absorbed by Brooklyn in 1855 and the rest by 1898.
Midwood is within, but not synonymous with Flatbush. The original Flatbush Town Hall, which still exists, is on Snyder Avenue between Flatbush and Bedford Avenues.
anonymous JewParticipantEvery ashkenazi wedding I’ve ever been to has been indoors
anonymous JewParticipantQuay, one last item . Requests for aid were made as far back as Jan 2019, but no bill was introduced. Why? Because Speaker Pelosi and Majority leader Hoyer claimed that there was no need for a bill, that there was no crisis. It’s all on You Tube.
anonymous JewParticipantQuay, you’ve also misrepresented the facts. The Democrats turned the aid bill into a political bill. The humanitarian aid was to expand the number of , among other things, detention beds given the huge numbers attempting to enter illegally. The Democrats, who are for open borders, tied the aid to issues that they had to know the Republicans wouldn’t accept ( the wall , ICE ) , thus holding the illegal immigrants hostage
anonymous JewParticipantWhat hasn’t been mentioned is that the collapse of the traditional model that allowed for the large scale ignorance of Jewish girls in yiddiskeit outside of kashrus and basic Shabbos laws led to the founding of Bais Yaakov. . With the post WW1 collapse of the Russian and Austro-Hungarian Empires , Jews were no longer confined to the shtetl and isolated from the outside civilization. More and more women were being exposed to outside influences. Without a firm background in, and knowledge of their religion, assimilation rates among women were alarming. BTW, despite romanticized views of the alte heim, there was a post WW1 migration out of the shtetl that was contributing to an overall increase in assimilation.
anonymous JewParticipantRecently the UN came out with a negative report on child separation at the border and Reuters, among others, ran with it, attacking Trump. Then it developed that the UN report was based on 2015 data, when Obama was president. The news report disappeared.
The left refuses to recognize that crossing the border illegally is a crime , and that it was Obama who set up the separation practice. Keep in mind that it was the Democrats in January 2019 who refused to appropriate funds to set up family facilities, alleging the border crisis to be a fantasyanonymous JewParticipantJoseph, I guess you consider a sense of humor to be a Christian creation too.
I assume you’re basing your statement on the Pilgrim story. In fact, the first official Thanksgiving Day was declared in 1789 by George Washington thanking hashem for the Constitution. It also marked the first time a Rabbi was asked to deliver a benediction at a government function . Observed intermittently, intermittently over the next 70+ years, it was established by Executive order as an annual holiday in November 1863 by Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War and established by law in 1941 by FDR.
Last time I checked, presidents do not establish Christian holidays. Do churches hold services? Yes, but so has the Spanish and Portuguese Synogogue since 1789.
Just because shuls say hallel on Yom Haatzmaos doesn’t make it a Yom Tov.November 27, 2019 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm in reply to: Why are the liberals going to bus dangerous youths from OOT into Flatbush? #1805090anonymous JewParticipantLowertuiyoon, charter schools are considered public schools and are funded by the city
November 27, 2019 7:58 am at 7:58 am in reply to: Why are the liberals going to bus dangerous youths from OOT into Flatbush? #1804979anonymous JewParticipantDY, all of the things I mentioned are all positions that I agree with. I’m just saying that from their perspective, the conservatives might not like it ( from our perspective, can’t be helped ).
What I find amusing I’d how we react when the shoe is on the other foot. There have been several incidents where frum Jews, attempting to escape the overcrowded, expensive real estate conditions in Lakewood and Rockland, have sought to buy in neighboring semi rural communities. Those residents viewed the Jews ( bringing with them high density housing ) as a threat to their way of life, the same way the Jews of Midwood view the charter school. Why is it antisemitic for the semirural residents to protect their way of life but not racist for Jews to protest against the school.November 26, 2019 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm in reply to: Why are the liberals going to bus dangerous youths from OOT into Flatbush? #1804752anonymous JewParticipantLet’s see, people like Joseph condemn their movement, we’re not allowed to daven even in an empty Conservative sanctuary, we don’t accept their conversions or kashrus standards and we certainly don’t include them in any communal organizations. And we’re surprised they when they won’t work with us?
November 24, 2019 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm in reply to: Should frum yidden remove all plants from the home during the month of december? #1803760anonymous JewParticipantI’m concerned that if this is your worry, you’ve gone off the deep end.
anonymous JewParticipantVesamachta, how many Ethiopian Jews have been refused treatment and what is your source? I hear the same problem exists with Kenyan and Bangladeshi Jews
anonymous JewParticipantUngarishe? A silly joke?
November 17, 2019 11:39 am at 11:39 am in reply to: Scammer Targeting Frum People at airports #1801351anonymous JewParticipantThis is an old scam. It was being done in Penn Station, Grand Central and the Port Authority Bus Terminal back in the 1980’s.
November 13, 2019 9:33 am at 9:33 am in reply to: $5,000.000 donated to Trump by Orthodox Jews, can we afford it? #1800243anonymous JewParticipantWhich will come first, Moshiach or every organization/school/yeshiva seeking funds being open and transparent as to how each penny is being spent ( i.e. more administrative salaries vs better and timely pay for rabbanim,).
Until that happens, don’t be jealous of how money is being spent. After all, you don’t know how much they give to tzadakahanonymous JewParticipantYou’re missing the point. The philosophies of Chassidus and Open Orthodoxy are totally different but the Vilna Gaon viewed Chassidus like we view OO. What I said was the Vilna Gaon treated Chassidus beliefs ( i.e. miracleworker rebbes and visions ) as close to , if not in fact , Kfira and excommunicated them. The Misnagaid vs Chassidus war didn’t calm down until the mid 1800’s when they both realized that they were fighting over a smaller pie as more and more Jews were being lost to the Haskala.
As far as the other arguments, the Satmar factions, Lubavitch vs Satmar etc didn’t just disagree. They had a true personal dislike as there were physical assaults , property damage and ( as Joseph keeps overlooking) long ongoing CIVIL lawsuits in gentile courtsanonymous JewParticipantThis question is not so simple. The Vilna Gaon considered the chassidim as if they were Open Orthodox and refused to have any dealings with them.The two factions of Satmar dislike each other . Whenni was growing up, brawls between Lubavitch and Satmar were not unusual.
November 8, 2019 9:53 am at 9:53 am in reply to: Whats Baltimore like nowadays.Still OOT or suitable for intown fam #1798637anonymous JewParticipantMy numbers came from Levi Yitzchak Leifer, head of the Boro Park shmira patrol in an interview in Tablet magazine. And these are violent assaults, not property damage.Not a week goes by without reports of men being assaulted on way to shul on Shabbos . So, 19 assaults ( again only those defined as hate crimes; the 19 doesn’t include “routine” muggings ) makes them extremely safe neighborhoods?
November 8, 2019 12:36 am at 12:36 am in reply to: Whats Baltimore like nowadays.Still OOT or suitable for intown fam #1798571anonymous JewParticipantJoseph. you’re in a dream world. Hate crime assaults against Jews totalled 17 in 2017 , 33 in 2018 and 19 in the first 6 months of 2019. And that doesn’t include assaults and muggings not classified as hate crimes
anonymous JewParticipantReb Eliezer, Carter had nothing to do with the Egypt-Israel peace. They did it on their own, an act for which Carter never forgave Begin or Israel
anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, what studies can you cite that document the ” the significant disparities between boys versus girls ” ?
Or is it your personal opinion?
Ironically, it’s the Boomer generation that started this trend as they had the education and wealth to be able to send their sons and daughters to learn in Israel. I don’t see how their grandchildren ,those having chosen the Lakewood kolel lifestyle, will be able to afford sending 5+ kids to Israel ( tuition, airfare, food etc). Will they have to settle for a “lower” level of learning ( as per Joseph )?anonymous JewParticipantDaas Yachid, I think your missing the point. Anyone is entitled to request a seat change. But they are not entitled to refuse to take their seat and delay departure, and, by and large, I’ve only seen that behavior among those refusing to sit next to a woman.
anonymous JewParticipantKatanhatorah, laugh and make fun if you must , but you are entirely missing the point. Cuomo and DiBlasio may rip the rich but they desperately count on their taxes. The 1%s pay 40% of NY’s taxes and, while Trump may be the latest to leave, he certainly wasn’t the first and won’t be the last. According to moving company statistics, the states with the largest outflows are NY , NJ, Conn and Illinois. They are all high tax states. The 2 leading inflow states are Florida and Texas, both no tax states.
anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, not when 10 to 15 men are making the request and refuse to sit and delay the flight. If I have an aisle seat, I won’t move to a middle seat for a 12 hour flight to accomodate someone who is machmir on sitting next to a woman
anonymous JewParticipantNot everyone holds with hat and jacket, dipping or washing on pizza. You have your poskim, they have theirs. It’s interesting that you picked 3 that are not universally accepted and assumed your position is the correct one.
That is the problem with giving tochachaanonymous JewParticipantJust don’t say it’s a halacha
anonymous JewParticipantIt’s named after The Bronx River ( as per several historical sources ) which was named after Jonas Bronck, the first European settler in the area. It wasn’t called the Bronx until it was acquired by NYC in the late 1800s
anonymous JewParticipantUnclemo
I don’t use the TriangleK but your comment is worthless if you aren’t willing to name the Rov or the Rov is not willing to publicly own his comments. What if Plony made the same statement you did but with the opposite conclusion? Would you say oh great, now I can try Hebrew National? Of course not. So why do you expect your anonymous assurance of an unnamed Rov to be taken as proof?anonymous JewParticipantMore importantly, mesirah has been used to protect molesters and stop people from reporting them to the police.
It’s been a big issue in Melbourne since 2015 where molesters have gone unpunished and the victims who went public were punished by the community as mosers.anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, too many frum yidden have used mesirah as a shield to commit all kinds of bad acts. You block my driveway, I will be more than happy to call the cops.
anonymous JewParticipantCuomo rescinded the fee for the new plates yesterday
anonymous JewParticipantKatanhatorah, to really get an appreciation of denigration of those who they disagree with, just turn on CNN, MSNBC and any other leftist media. Lying? Just in the past two weeks CNN has had to retract phony stories as did the New York Times , which reported that planes flew themselves into the Trade Towers. You can go on YouTube and find any number of clips where Pres Trump clearly and unambiguously denounces racism, the KKK and white nationalists. Yet , during the last debate, Booker repeated the lie that Trump refuses to denounce racism. And, don’t forget, Warren’s academic career was based upon lying that she had legitimate Native American ancestry.
anonymous JewParticipantI checked with joseph
anonymous JewParticipantLast I checked, all baked goods are made in a central location and sent to the store. The problem with stores that sell trief sandwiches is that everything Is warmed in same oven.
DD doesn’t sell ice cream. Some are under same roof as Basken Robertsanonymous JewParticipantJoseph, what points are you talking about? You for the most part keep saying torah supercedes the law, and that one case will bankrupt a yeshiva. The law didn’t change the standard of proof, just the time frame to file. I agree with Syag. This issue is like Alice in Wonderland, every thing backwards. In our version of the Metoo movement, going back decades, it’s the molesters who must be believed, not the victims. Syag is also right in that molestation is not , for the most part a one time event and the school had to have been aware of what was occurring and should be held responsible, no matter how long ago it can be proven to have occurred.
anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, you keep assuming that all the cases being brought under the CVA will be 50 year old cases in which a victim just woke up.
It’s just not so. The 38 victims who filed yesterday had all done so previously, but had their cases thrown out because the statute of limitations had already passed. The victims who filed against Rockefeller University had also previously filed. The old laws maximum ages of 21 and 23 was in many cases to soon before victims were emotionally ready to file.anonymous JewParticipantWell, the first shoe has dropped. I had posited three categories where lawsuits were likely to come from. Yesterday 38 victims ( from category A – admission of guilt made after statute of limitations had expired ) filed lawsuits.
Joseph, if only one case in 25 years is too many, why did the Brooklyn institution and the summer camp protect that molester for 25 years?anonymous JewParticipantI left out the year of the meeting . It was 2010
anonymous JewParticipantPeople here are assuming that decades old cases will come out of the woodwork , with no proof, and file cases. While this will probably happen, they are ignoring the more probable cases:
A. Admissions of guilt made after statute of limitations had expired. Two examples: edited. Now, victims can file suit.
B. Victims who had previously filed suit with credible documentation but whose cases where dismissed because of statute of limitations.
C. Victims who are under 30 years old but the time to file had passed.I have 2 questions to ask of the posters who maintain that there were few cases of molestation in the frum community:
1. If there were so few cases, why was Agudah”s
longstanding opposition based upon yeshivas
being devastated by a flood of cases
2. Why was a handbook outlining the dangers of child abuse , and how to recognize and deal with it, given to 36 camp directors at an April 29 meeting in Flatbush? Written in Yiddish and English, it was prepared by the Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah of Agudath Israel. The camps represented were a who’s who of frum camps.anonymous JewParticipantI did some additional reading and it appears lawsuits can be brought against the actual abuser AND the institution/individuals who enabled them. The individuals do not have to be alive. The articles mentioned that one of the goals is to publicize the identity of abusers, even if they can’t obtain financial compensation. In California, approximately 300 previously unknown abusers were identified.
BTW, alluding to what I said earlier, my older sister can’t sue because she can’t prove it. Everyone who she told is now dead ( I was an infant and didn’t find out until many years later ) as are the abuser and the enablersanonymous JewParticipantTlik, you’ve constructed a strawman, claiming that the law allows anyone to stroll into court, offer zero proof and collect a check. Can you cite the section that permits this? My understanding is that proof is still required, the change being the statute of limitations.
anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, please stop. Bais Dins and yeshivas have ignored the problem for decades. That alone should be enough grounds to pursue justice in secular courts.
In October 2016 a prominent Brooklyn yeshiva agreed to pay a $2.1 million settlement for the sexual molestation of two boys. The molester had been allowed to teach for over 25 years, despite decades of allegations.So tell me Joseph, would a bais din have accomplished or resolved anything?
anonymous JewParticipantABBA, i agree that, as I mentioned above, lawyers are probably going to go after deep pocketed institutions ( the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts ) . When it comes to yeshivas,all they have to do is find wealthy board members and donors who would have the resources. Keep in mind that the National Agudah could be a target , primarily because of its summer camp.
From this morning’s paper, money does not appear to be everyone’s motivation. Some of the people suing simply want the organization/school/religious body to finally come clean and admit what they allowed to happen.anonymous JewParticipantSyag, the only reason I use that example is point out to Joseph that there are extenuating circumstances that can cause religious people to resort to civil court
anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, I didn’t say you said it, I just compared your undocumented assertion that many were false to the claims made in the CR in past years that all were false.
false. How do you know that many were unfairly imprisoned? Why does the new age limit to file bother you so much? Since these cases tend to taken on a contingency basis, my guess is a lawyer won’t accept a case he knows they can’t win. As to your other comment regarding age, my older sister was molested 68 years ago and her statute of limitations ran out in 1963. Age didn’t just wake up; my parents didn’t believe her and the Rosh Yeshiva wouldn’t act on it. As a result she stopped being religious.
Lake hill, the victims who are no longer frum are not going to go to bais din. Bais Dins aren’t exactly paragons of judicial virtue. A reason why the Satmer brothers have been in civil court is because ( surprise!!) each brothers bais din said they were right.anonymous JewParticipantJoseph, I can’t imagine a victim getting a fair hearing in a bais din. Just like the Satmer brothers who have been b.c battling it out in civil court for years, victims have no recourse other than secular courts
anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, you unfortunately sound like the people who , in the Coffee Room ) maintained that all the accusations were false. As Syag keeps pointing out, the facts will speak for themselves. Many people couldn’t/didn’t come forward earlier because the statute of limitations ran out at age 21 , which was the point of this law.
Even if the yeshivas win all lawsuits filed against them ( and there will be lawsuits ) the legal bills will be crippling.August 14, 2019 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm in reply to: Should Wedding gowns for the extended family be discontinued? #1774737anonymous JewParticipantPhilosopher, I hope no one who feels obligated to spend big bucks on one time gowns turns around and pleads poverty and requests yeshiva tuition reductions.
anonymous JewParticipantBeing crowded doesn’t necessarily mean busiest, nor does gross sales. My local Costco doesn’t appear to be busy until you notice that their cashiering process is very efficient and lines are almost never long . KMR’s prices are low, GG is high, so higher gross sales at GG wouldn’t mean they’re busier. You’d need to know things like volume sold, and number of transactions.
August 14, 2019 8:59 am at 8:59 am in reply to: Should Wedding gowns for the extended family be discontinued? #1774647anonymous JewParticipantI think people should mind their own business and stop telling others what to do ( assuming what they’re doing is not in violation of halacha)
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