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CT, you don’t paint with a broad brush but many police are bigots and criminals. Pure socialistic countries ( Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Soviet Union ) tend not to be Democratic.
CT lawyer, please explain how Omar’s constituents are entitled to a seat on the Foriegn Relations Committee? She is still on other committees. Her extreme anti-Israel bias makes her membership on that Committee inappropriate.
Maybe the goyim have a better idea. Many couples pay for their own weddings.
Ujm, who called 911 and the Shomrim?
Avira, you missed and avoided my point. I clearly referenced someone from the time of bayis rishon when sacrifices were no longer allowed outside of Jerusalem. What prayers did they say when they put on tefillin? You didn’t address my point about the Samaritan “Torah” . They copied it from us and wrote it using paleohebrew . Calling the alphabet paleohebrew is not apikorsis
Avira, not only has the application of halacha changed, our religion has undergone massive change in the past
One example is divorce. Originally, a man could divorce his wife unilaterally;now she must agree.
If Jew ( an anachronism ) from the early years of the first Bais Hamikdosh were to come back to life now, he wouldn’t recognize we call Judaism. In his tim e:
1. There were no shuls
2. There were no siddurs
3. There were no religious rituals outside of Jerusalem
4. He wouldn’t be able to read the Torah. Until the Babylonian
Exile, Hebrew was written in Paleo-Hebrew script, not the
Aramaic block letters that Ezra introduced. The Samaritans,
brought into Israel by the Assyrians , copied our Sefer Torah
and theirs is still written in Paleo-Hebrew.There is a lot more
Ujm,Avira then why do Torah institutions respect and honor individuals who earn their wealth through unethical/illegal means? I won’t name the examples. My friends shul has two prominent frum members currently serving prison terms for embezzlement, as is the former treasurer of a five towns shul. A close friend is a lawyer and many of his clients were frum clients who were victimized civilly by other frum Jews
Because money always talks. You’re surprised?
For much of the middle ages Jews had a good life in Europe. Often their biggest protector was the local bishop I
How many families can afford the $25,000 cost , on top of the other children’s tuition? Remember, no discount on airfare , other expenses or the tuition. What is deficient in the prior 12 years of education that makes ay seminary year necessary? If anything, the girls in seminary are living in a bubble that won’t be there when they come home
Nomesorah, as far as Rabbi Feldman is concerned , it’s a moot point as Beth Jacob was never a Conservative synogogue, despite R Eliezer’s mistaken and repeated assertions
Israel has the same dentistry deal as Budapest
Please look at your original post. You said he converted his congregation, not just some conservative congregants.
And, nomesorah, didn’t Rav Moshe issue a psak forbidding Orthodox rabbis from taking Conservative pulpits?R Elezer, I think you owe Rabbi Feldman an apology for implying he took a pulpit in a conservative synogogue
R eliezer, Beth Jacob was never Conservative. It was founded 1943 as an Orthodox breakaway from an existing Orthodox shul that they felt was drifting Conservative ( which it eventually became).
Rabbi Feldman’s humor was one of the tools he used, in his 39 years, to grow Beth Jacob from that small start to a community large enough ( over 500 families ) to support day schools, boys yeshivas, girls yeshivas ( both thru high school ) and a kollel.The chassidim were used simply as an example, because it was a large scale example of discarding of minhagim, mesora and nusach.
The concept of minhag and mesora was more applicable in 1700″s and prior. People rarely left the village they were born in and the cohesiveness promoted the maintenance of the minhagim and mesora. However , the rise of chassidus, the haskala, massive pogroms and emigration have led to mixing of populations and the difficulty of most people have in identifying their mesora and minhagimThe rabbis in my yeshiva ketana routinely beat us ( no patching) up . I’m talking punching, slapping and kicking. It inspired neither learning nor respect but did inspire FEAR .
It’s amazing how excuses are found to justify positions. Minhagim and mesora are sacred, except of course for when the Chassidim discarded centuries of minhagim, mesora and nusach.
So in this case apparently mesorah doesn’t count
Avira, unfortunately it’s no longer 2020. BTW, the attacker had 8 previous arrests , coffee addict, no jail time.
Avira, I won’t ride the subway anymore because of the crime and violence. A rider on his way home from work this past weekend was sitting and minding his own business when a deranged man walked up to him, punched him in the face and opened a wound requiring 8 stitches . The mentally ill and homeless roaming the streets and the subway assault anybody, Jewish or not
Avira, not a day goes by in NYC where there aren’t numerous violent attacks and shooting .
Jack, while I’m not interested in bridges, you’re being naive. The nursing homes had patients who, by definition, had low resistance to infections. They weren’t set up to isolate their patients from the covid patients. They begged the NYS Dept of Health for prep time. Instead, the DOH, under pressure from the GNYHA, issued a March 26 directive that not only mandated that the transfers be accepted, the homes were forbidden to administer covid tests prior to admission. The directive was rescinded in May but the damage had been done.
Jack, you really shouldn’t make unsupported sweeping statements. I know at least 1 Hatzala person who contracted covid by treating/transporting a covid patient. The person who transported me. I’m sure there were others.
By the way, how would you handle Andrew Cuimo? One of his biggest financial supporters was the Greater NY Hospital Association ( GNYHA ). They are the primary lobbyist for Downstate voluntary not for profit hospitals . The hospitals were filling up with covid patients who couldn’t be discharged. The problem? Hospitals don’t get paid by the day, but by the discharge so, as long as the beds stayed occupied, hospitals couldn’t bill n or admit new patients . The GNYHA came up with a solution. Prevail upon Cuomo to force nursing homes to accept the patients as transfers, whether they had covid or not. Despite protests that they weren’t set up for it and that their residents would be at great risk, Cuomo made it happen.
To noone’s great surprise, thousands of unnecessary deaths ensuedIt’s interesting that people are parsing dry coughs but noone has responded to Cuomo’s clear guilt regarding the nursing home deaths ( while being praised by the media for his handling of the pandemic).
Gov DeSantis was excoriated for keeping schools and businesses open. Turns out he was right.
Does Gov Cuomo deserve a pardon after needlessly causing thousands of deaths in nursing homes by forcing homes not prepared for it to accept transfers from hospitals. He forbade nursing homes from testing the transfers. Almost as bad, children and spouses of the survivors were forbidden to visit.
To my mind, I’ve the best proof that, unlike other vaccines, the Covid vaccines don’t prevent transmission or reinvention. I’ve been double vaccinated and double boosted, yet the hospital waiting room ( I’m not the patient ) I’m sitting in still requires me to wear a mask.To Avira et al,
Do you actually believe that LGB etc people don’t currently exist the yeshivish world? They exist but in the closet.The Alte Heim was a mythical place where every Jew was a Torah Scholar, even the ignorant ones
Avira, your world is so black and white, no shades of gray. The 2 milion+ Eastern European Jews who ignored Daas Torah and emigrated before the 1920’s restrictions survived the Holocaust. Hundreds of thousands more frum Jews who followed Daas Torah in the new Soviet Union were lost as yeshivas and shuls were closec and rabbis,mohelim, community leaders and teachers were murdered. In the Holocaust itself, countless frum Jews were murdered, including Gedolim.
How does this fit into your narrative?P.S. the Jews of the early middle ages didn’t intermingle but that didnt prevent the Crusader massacres , blood libels and frequent expulsions
You wouldn’t know it was Aseres yimai teshuva the way people are badmouuthing all MO
One major problem with the Russian military , that dates back to to the Soviets, is the lack of non commissioned officers.
In the US Army., nco’s ( sergeants and corporals ) are trained to recognize when circumstances affect their orders and to make adjustments on the fly. When Russian advances stall, only senior officers can make changes. This requires them to get close to the front and has already led to a number of generals being killed.Aaq, while many attempts have been made, takanot have virtually never been adhered to.
Jewish12345 made some very good points. We’ve never had a mesora of every man sitting and learnng full time, and for very good and practical reasons. In prewar Europe there were no social service networks ; if you didn’t work you didn’t eat. Only those who showed the ability to be talmedai chachomim, poskim and rabbinical leaders were supported by the community; everyone else had to work . The current phenomena didnt begin until 50 years ago , when the baby boomer generation, having been allowed to go to all the professional schools, had become wealthy enough to support theirs sons in yeshiva .
Not for me. You’re the one harking back to East European mesorah. BTW, the lack of extravagance was largely due to a lack of resources . You can’t spend what you don’t have.
Avira, if you’re going to hold by mesorah, then our mesorah is to have weddings erev Shabbos!
Ujm and 2cents, let me be clear. Yrm reffered to homeless and elderly checking into hospitals for free room and board.
I agree that anyone can walk into an ER and must be triaged ( assessed for illness/injury). However, you won’t be admitted unless the condition warrants it. If a Medicare patient falls and fractures a hip, and, mris etc determine that surgery is not needed, only bed rest, Medicare will deny that patient’s admission.
In addition an ER is not a bakery. People don’t get treated in the order they arrive, but by how seriously sick or injured they are. You could be number 5 when you arrive but number 14 three hours later.
One more note. If you’ve been sick since Monday, don’t be surprised if your insurance co refuses to pay for your outpatient visit on Thursday. Why? Because it’s not an emergency. The ER is obligated to treat you, but an ER is the most expensive place to seek outpatient care and the ins will say you had several days to seek out your dr or an urgicare centerA homeless/elderly person cannot simply check into a hospital unless they have a condition that warrants it. The hospital won’t get paid.
Ive been told that the oaths are no longer valid , for 2 reasons:
1. Our obedience to the oaths was conditional upon how the goyim treated us. The Holocaust negated the oaths2. A world body, t h e United Nations, voted to give us our land back
Akuperma et al,
You and others seem to have the idea that , absent the State of Israel , Torah Judaism was fine. Prior to WW2, North America was viewed ,correctly, as the treife medina and Western Europe was no better. However, their Eastern European bastion was showing enormous cracks. Starting in the 1880’s and accelerating in the 20th century, more and more young frum Jews were abandoning the shtetl for big cities and the US. Worse, they were abandoning religion for all of the isms ( socialism, Zionism, anarchism, communism, atheism) and the trend greatly accelerated in the 1930’s. On top of that, with Stalin’s crackdowns, millions of Russian Jews were lost spiritually.Yungermans. You repeatedly state that Hashem saves us. Can you then explain the Crusades, the Holocaust, Khmelnitsky, the hundreds of thousands of Jews killedin WW1?
A lot of people are coming to alot of conclusions about Trump’s guilt without any concrete knowledge. After 5 years of blockbuster media headlines ( Russia Russia Russia ) all claiming to finally being the one to bring down Trump only to fade into nothingness when the facts finally came to light, little wonder that, outside of this blog, the media has such little credibility with Americans. If Trump is actually guilty, how ineffective is the FBI that they still can’t prove it. Remember Adam Schiff repeatedly claiming he had incontrovertible proof of Trump’s guilt but somehow never presented it during the first impeachment? And , as a member of the Jan 6th committee I’m supposed to believe what he says now?
avira, Im always fascinated when people speak of mesora in the singular. In your case, I assume you’re talking about Eastern European mesora, not Yemenite, Sephardic, etc. Even within Eastern Europe, chassidish mesorah only goes back 250 years
The warm period in Europe lasted from the 900’s to the 1300’s.
During that period vineyards existed as far north as Scandinavia. However, as what became the Little Ice Age began, it became increasingly difficult for vineyards to grow in England, Ireland, Germany, Poland, Russia and Austria and wine became difficult to find and expensive. When the Mishne Brura paskened to allow kiddush shabbos morning over non wine , he cited a difficulty getting wine. This was the reason.Akuperma, if they all lived in villages, then there would have been no need for the Gemorah to allow for the Megilla to be read on the closest market day .
Also, keep in mind, the first synogogues didn’t appear until late in the Second Temple period and Shmoneh Esreh wasn’t composed until sometimevl during Bayis Sheni. So, why would they have needed a minyan on a regular basisAkuperma, until the churban, most Jews outside of major cities did live on isolated homesteads. They were farmers. Shuls and prayers, as we know them today didn’t exist and thus there was almost never a need for a minyan. If one was needed a farmer would travel to a village. The Gemorah talks about reading the Megillah on the closest market day to the actual day of Purim so as not to make the farmers travel twice in one week.
Yingermans, what about the Holocaust?
The earth tilts toward and from the Sun, depending on the season
Jack GH, .et al
The one major mistake that Pelosi made was in how she structured the committee’s membership and procedures.
A. She disallowed Republicans who voted against the ballot but included members who had all voted previously to impeach Trump
B. One member she no problem accepting was Adam Schiff. He has zero credibility as he, during all of Russia Hoax, repeatedly stood in front of reporters cameras and lied about having indisputable evidence of Trump’s guilt. He, of course, had nothing.
C. Pelosi has allowed disputed hearsay testimony without any cross examination ( Cassidy Hutchinson) . As far as I know, I don’t think the Secret Service agents involved have been allowed to testify ( they deny her version of events )
D. Pelosi has presented only one side of the events in question, refusing requests to present conflicting evidence or testimony. Any prosecutor will tell you it’s easy to convict anybody when the jury hears only one side of the case.So, the sad part is that, even if, Jack and GH, you’re 100% correct in your assertions and beliefs, because the case was presented in a kangaroo court the results will be dismissed by many rational Republicans, Democrats and Independents.
Jackk, try to respond without hysterics to my points.
There is a greater threat than assault weapons. and one that is ignored. Yes, massacres using AR 15s are horrific but far more people are shot and killed each week by illeagal handguns. Just this past July 4th weekend, 68 people were shot ( 8 killec ) in Chicago and 21 more ( 3 killed) in NYC. That’s in just 2 cities and not a whole week. And these shootings and killings happen every week, is virtually all black on black shooting and is virtually unreported because of the commonplace frequency.
The recent overturning of NY’s strict concealed pistol carry law sent our Governor and Mayor into panic attacks. They claimed our streets in NY would become the Wild West when in fact they’ve been the Wild West for a long time. Do you think all those criminals I shooting and killing people have legal guns and carry permits? Of course not. Compounding the problem is that if a person is arrestred carrying an illegal gun, they’re often released without bail.
If the Democrats in Albany are truly serious about gun control, they have make illegal gun possession a major felony,l with a 10 year sentence, and ban the current practice of local DA’s of lowering the charge to a misdemeanor if the gun wasn’t fired.
Once criminals start realize that possession equals imprisonment, they’ll stop carrying and there will be a reduction in shootings and killings. That fear of arrest and conviction is what made stop and frisk work.
Unfortunately, the progressives in Albany , who think our current system is great, will never do itGH, please give it a rest, if only for your own peace of mind. To maintain this level of hatred for so long is not healthy.