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I don’t apologize for being direct. My spouse posted very little here. We mostly used the CR for entertainment, ya know, dramatic readings of someones tirade.
Even when my husband was alive we would comment on the lack of civility here in the Coffee Room. It predates the pandemic.
UJM, that makes me even more pleased that I chose living in the PNW. Our minority religions here in town in descending order are Bah’i and sharing second place are Jews (a variety) and Muslims (a variety.
“Proud Boys are not a bigger threat than ANTIFA and Muslims. ” It would appear so in Lkwd.
My life experience is similar to that which CT. Lawyer just explained. As one who lives outside the tristate Jewniverse in a diverse community, I don’t feel threatened at all for being a Jew. It’s likely if I was a male POC living in a densely populated urban area, I could feel threatened.
Unfortunately here in the PNY hate groups such as The Proud Boys are highly visible, but they are viewed as threats towards the American Democracy, not just Jews or POC. Their hate isn’t tolerated, not by our communities at large or religious minorities. We ALL join hands to defend our rights to worship, build community, educate our children and defeat the forces of bigotry.
CS, gas prices west of the Mississippi have traditionally been higher than the rest of the country , trust me we don’t move to the PNW for cheap gas.
No, it’s sad that you couldn’t address the topic I raised vis a vis why the east coast is suffering from shortages in vehicle fuel an rising costs. Here in the PNW with minimal refineries our prices yo yo and it’s not dependent on who is elected.
The east coast is suffering ’cause this is a pipeline that fills the needs of east coast refineries. Why so stubborn to admit the truth?
I recognize that the folks that bloviate here are from the tri state Jewniverse. Be aware, and perhaps be more catholic, small c, in your news reading. The midwest and west are not suffering from fuel shortages.
Always, I’ve googled and can’t find federal documentation to support your posits. Its would have been helpful if you read my post for comprehension and actually addressed the issue I raises vis a vis Frum women. Now again, the Jewish women who work either inside or outside their homes to support their families while the father is studying has not been addressed by you. This is traditional and certainly hasn’t been forced by our government.
Here in the burbs (mixed not part of the the Jewniverse) a serious issue is childcare outside the home and how it has been impacted by the pandemic. Small communities such as mine have crafted solutions. Employers have also been part of the solution. From what I read on frum women’s sites like Ima, costs of child care are a lot lower on the east coast and frum Women will use unlicensed facilities. Here west of the Mississippi, our average hourly licensed facility will charge an average of $20/hr. Frum women also send their children out a lot earlier than their non Jewish cohorts. These are all apples and oranges you are unaware of. The claims of the NYTd are pretty much bunk without an actual statical study.
Have a good day and a pleasant tomorrow.I don’t live in a homogeneous Jewish town or area. I’m not quite sure how you can claim and/confirm that the Biden admn feels ‘compelled’ to make all women work. Do you have any data to support this claim?
I have family in Lkwd for generations and it’s been my experience that Frum women in Lkwd do work to support their husbands who are learners and help pay for childrens tuition. I personally don’t feel that the current President is forcing these women to work outside (or inside) the home. It is merely a religious lifestyle choice that is very expensive.It’s been my experience over the years that folks that credit Alinsky with a laundry list of changes 1) have never read Alinsky 2) don’t even bother to fact check.
In the same vein, folks that think that all PPA does is perform abortions, don’t bother to investigate their claims either.
ST it’s called Operation Paperclip.
That Steve Allen quote up thread was worthy. “Radio is the theater of the mind; television is the theater of the Mindless” – Steve Allen.
POC have been victims, they continue to be victims for a variety of reasons which I won’t argue here. Again your kids aren’t going to public school. And you still can do what other towns have done. Elect nothing but Frum Jews to your school board.
I just don’t get the rant. You don’t live in Oregon, and I would guess that your children and the children of your community don’t go to public school. BTW the Oregon DOE suggests teachers take this training, it’s not required, nor has the DOE adopted ethnomathematics. (I don’t even think it goes toward CE credit.)
Yea your rant fascinates me. As an Oregonian, meh. It’s not likely that the DOE will adopt ethnomathematics in the near or distant future. I spent a few years working for the DOE, and I’m guessing due to prior experience this is a new national trend in pedagogy. I’m also guessing that the DOE has gotten some grant money to fund these trainings, that’s their usual SOP.
jackk I seriously doubt that these folks have read the EO. My guess is like the majority of our citizens they depend on their talking heads to give them a filtered understanding of same.
For the OP that started this thread, our nation wasn’t established on ‘equality’. If it was women and POC would not be able to vote. (Just one very important point.) Perhaps you tell us what you think equality means.
Just what was up with Mitch’s little coda speech?
Meh, the internet is filled with creative do it yourself costumes, and they also include costumes for children with physical challenges as well.
Bke, I apologize. I totally messed up that post and the figures. The alternate plan by the demos would give an annual $3000 per child annually, by check, this would not be a tax credit. Nothing was mentioned about what would happen to the basic child tax credit or if this additional income would impact means tested public support.
How many will be supporting the Democrats proposal to pay $3000 per child. 8 kids would equal $24k a year. Would these families be willing to give up means tested public benefits if those funds put them over the top?
I had my first moderna vax last week. No biggie, sore arm nothing unusual.
Actually, tests have shown that the majority of wigs supposedly made of ‘European’ hair aren’t. Since sifseichachamim hasn’t seen the doc, I find their comment calling it a ‘black hole’ to have been made out of ignorance. I’m good with the opinion, I just don’t agree with it.
Hair India is a good doc on YouTube.
I read the public area of Imamotherdotcom. There are two extremes represented when it comes to spending. Some mothers argue that regardless of how broke they are they have to buy the kids a hoverboard, $100+ backpack (just examples). Or there is the son getting bar mitzvahed that needs a borsellino and a $50 hat is ‘just not right’ (<this is a quote that has stuck in my mind for years. The reasoning of many is their children will emotionally suffer if they don’t have the same things as their peers. Of course as those children grow up, they will need the diamond bracelet/watch etc or be ridiculed by their peers, or their parents will be looked upon with shame. Yes there are some purportedly wealthy women posting there but I’m guessing they are in the minority. Some are extremely generous to women who are strangers that need groceries or other necessities. It’s a real mixed bag.
Businesses have the right to refuse service.
If I would boycott Amazon it could be about the massive wealth Bezos has accrued from the work of his poorly paid employees. Amazon is a service that makes life (with or without Covid) convenient for me as an elder. Ergo my preference is to support those Amazon workers who are organizing for better wages, hours and conditions.
CA there is a lot of of coverage about the plans to gas legislators in the tunnels beneath the Capitol. And yea I’m gonna ignore everyone’s whines about MSN etc.
I’m glad there is still time for the sitting president to release his healthcare plan.
It was Kathy Griffin.
I certainly find anyone who would forcibly enter and vandalize our nations capitol and smear the walls with human feces to be deplorable. Add to that fact these individuals wanted to overturn a legal election via force I’d add treasonous to the pejoratives as well.
Unfortunately Trumpism won’t end with the swearing in of Joe Biden. Trumpers are planning on violent confrontations in our states capitols as well as DC on 1/20.
Amidst all of this angst and foment we have a sitting president who refuses to address the nation via normal means. Surely a man who was concerned about healing a nation would put his personal feelings aside and attempt to communicate to the citizens of America. Prior to our current presidents election our leaders took to the airwaves, TV and press conferences. The sitting president has foregone traditional means of communication with his constituents and instead has become dependent on social media.
Thats a hard one to call. I have to give the Veep kudos for honoring his oath during the EC vote.
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
I dare say any of those people at the Capitol could have expressed their right to free speech in their own towns or state legislatures. And being the liberal I am sure expressing your rights under under the constitution could possibly mean smearing feces on the wall of a public building.
See UJM you’ve yet to say what those people gained by defacing, our Capitol. Both houses were in closed sessions, that were covered gavel to gavel by any number of news orgs (across the spectrum). Do you think those people wanted to disturb the vote? To stop the vote?
Thanks for the clarification Common. Unfortunately it doesn’t help me understanding frum Jews aligning themselves with neonazis, white nationalists and anti semites.
Ubiquitin, you raise a valid point. What was the purpose of the rally? What was the purpose of people marching down to the Capitol? What do they think this march would accomplish? The Senate and House were in session, fulfilling a constitutional mandate.
Ben Levi, a point of information. There were no through out the day communications from the president. IRRC there were three tweets and a taped message in the evening. I’m sure you can find them by googling.
Syag, do you have a mouse in your pocket? There’s got to be some reason you’re using the imperial we.
I think these home grown terrorists should be treated just like antifas, gas, rubber bullets, tazers, sensory weapons. I am happy that many of these folks will be identified because they chose to be interviewed by the media. I do hope that the courts and LE follow our current presidents recommendations “I have authorized the Federal Government to arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the U.S. with up to 10 years in prison, per the Veteran’s Memorial Preservation Act, or such other laws that may be pertinent…..” DJT tweeted June 2020.
What do you say to the Chabdniks who were on the steps of the capitol following the terrorists inside?
Well this isn’t a president who has good follow through. It would be nice if he backed his words with actions.
“I have authorized the Federal Government to arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the U.S. with up to 10 years in prison, per the Veteran’s Memorial Preservation Act, or such other laws that may be pertinent…..” Trump tweeted .June 2020.
NPR has excellent coverage via YouTube. Reports of 1 civilian shot NG is on it’s way. The presidents brief taped speech was sad considering these terrorists support his view re the election and he just rubbed more salt in their wounds.
This is all too funny. A bunch of Jews arguing about xtian prayers. I’m sure there are more important things. But FWIW I’ll go with the OEDs authority on the etymology of the word ‘amen’.
I often wonder what kind of background check people do on nannies. Do parents check to see if the potential nanny is currently certified in CPR for kids, first aid? And why wouldn’t you have cameras if you have a housecleaner or baby sitter alone in your residence???
GA Secy of States press conf. is live on YouTube. Debunking point by point the conspiracy claims regarding the GA election.
UJM, why did you lie about Goldsmith being a liberal democrat?
UJM: ‘As I suggested, read “A Presidential Succession Nightmare”, written by a liberal Democrat legal scholar.” Jack Landman Goldsmith is not now nor has he ever been a liberal Democrat. It’s pretty apparent after reading the blog post you cited above that you have zero understanding of the convo. But it’s a blog post, not a scholarly opinion on COG or presidential succession.
Here’s some great pretzel logic to go along with this whole debacle.
Rep. DeanPhillips 🇺🇸
@RepDeanPhillips
Jan 2
Members of Congress elected on the very same ballots to which they plan to object on Jan 6 should refuse to be sworn-in tomorrow, for if Trump’s defeat isn’t legitimate, how can their victories be legitimate?“A wonderful president, who stopped at nothing to get things done.” Yup he made it a habit to ignore the constitution whenever possible.
Health, I’m merely trying to show that some presidents, both Rs and Ds, follow rules and regulations regarding pardons and commutations, while our current president did not.
GW Bush, his son, Clinton and Obama ALL followed DOJ procedures for pardons and commutations. As per the usual, our current President did not. Nothing new. There is good news though as someone mentioned up thread, none of those pardoned can claim the 5th when called on to testify later.
A week ago armed anarchists in Oregon broke into the state capitol in an effort to stop a special session of the legislature. These misguided uneducated fools were under the impression that if they stopped the special session they would help ‘stop the steal’.
TYVM Charlie, you saved me the typing. I’m really tired of the mythmakers. I can’t figure out if they are lying, brainwashed or just too lazy to do the research to confirm the facts.