Amil Zola

If there was an EMP strike on the US the lessons we have learned from stay at home times during Covid would be of little use. The grid would be knocked out , no refrigeration, no fuel pumps working or oil refineries, no refrigeration to keep milk fresh as it’s transported to market, no rails to move goods. Wiring in homes would be fried so even if you had a generator it would be useless. No sewage plants working or water service being pumped into homes. Of the grid folks would have a chance, but they are about the only ones. People in urban areas wouldn’t have a chance. Once the food supplies and bottled water were gone that would be the end of it.

No shoes, no shirt, no service. Hasn’t anyone heard this before?

Crimminy sakes Joseph, you asked a question and I answered it, I don’t think attendance was being taken during the riots but I’m sure you can get estimates if you use google.

A great many governors have deployed the national guard across the country, even in NYC. But not to worry it’s not like the president is gonna read your epistle.

Wrong time for him to say he supports the second amendment. Obviously he doesn’t think that libs own guns or that the Huey P Newton Gun Club has call it’s affiliates out in over 59 cities to protect the demonstrators (not the rioters). Tonight will be interesting. I hope there are plenty of Big Macs in the bunker.

Joseph, most of those that got the loans and grants were big business. The few that went to mainstreet had so many strings attached it wasn’t worth the effort. If you cannot afford to pay back rent on a small business what’s the use of putting 75% of the loan/grant proceeds to payroll? People aren’t working, they don’t have discretionary money to spend in many specialty stores. A storefull of employees without customers isn’t gonna survive. No small businesses were consulted to find out what small business needed and the best way to financially support them. Try again. It’s a pity there was no oversight on who got the money, but that’s how this administration works.

Small business owners should be protesting against the govt that gave Covid $$ to billion dollar corporations rather than the businesses on main street. Heck they were willing to bail out cruise lines which aren’t American companies.

For those that are complaining that I’m using small unified regional public school districts as an example, oh well. I’ve sat on our local board of ed as well as the curriculum committee locally. I’m guessing that with smaller regionalized districts there is far more community involvement and perhaps even more $$ devoted to teacher training. For those of us who choose to live rurally or semi rurally (Jew or gentile) we do not want to emulate the failures of public or private education that are evidenced in metro or suburban areas.

Chaim Shulem. I do not live near a metro area. Neither my husband nor I wanted to live near a metro area. I live on the edge of city limits in an area that will not be developed any further (The town has about 16K fulltime residents,) The PDX and Seattle metro areas may be cheaper than Bklyn but the suburbs are nothing close to small town living. Houses are built on top of eachother, poorly constructed, traffic sucks, property taxes are high and every house looks the same.

Thanks Mod 29!

There have been rural frum communities in the US for hundreds of years. It’s estimated that 4% of the frum in America live rurally. There are small frum Jewish communities in the heart of Appalachia, AZ and all across the west and here in the PNW where I live. I think that it’s a rather unsuitable lifestyle for folks from the known Jewniverse of NY and NJ. who are used to walking around the corner to a shop to buy your kosher chicken, most of these communities live more than a convenient drive from a Walmart or Trader Joes. And listen to the women on Imamother complaining because their kids are home all day because of C19. Home schooling isn’t an alien concept in rural America regardless of your faith. And of course there are the wandering rabbi’s of Chabad who visit once or twice a year and the wandering shochet serving those Jews who raise their own animals for food.

My late husband and I received wise counsel from our rabbi when we were considering our move to the rural PNW and we were able to network with other Jews who lived rurally on how to solve some of the unique problems of Jews living rurally. As technology advanced and the internet became more available to rural areas, many issues of supply and demand were solved. The only time I resented driving an over 30 mile trip to work over mtns was during ice storms.

With my husband gone I downsized and moved closer to town onto what would be described as a rural residential property on the far edge of town. It, for me, is infinitely nicer than in town, with few close neighbors, less noise and traffic. It’s also less than a 30 mile drive to a grocery store which is even better.

Joseph, hate crime, disturbing the peace, harassment and trespass. Same as what they were charged with at 8 other houses they chose to ‘visit’ under the guise of ‘outreach’.

Common, their message is/was clear, I mean really how else does one interpret ‘death to Jews’? The messenger is tarred simply because of the message. Frankly I’m merely explaining my position based on my first hand experience with a hate group. I will continue to judge Morgan and his minions based on their actions and of course their publicly stated mission.

This thread is too funny and ignores some salient facts. Blue states contribute more than the red states who are dependent on the govt. redistributing money from the blue to red states. Then there is the matter of Covid relief $$, it seems the Red states are at the federal trough gobbling up more funding than the blue.

Huju, if that were the case here in the PNW I’d be doing a happy dance. Mr. Morgan, the Proud Boys and the 3%ers descended on my little town in an attempt to intimidate our local Jewish population (which is rather small). We had just purchased land for a new school and synagogue. His minions were able to get a hold of a copy of the congregations directory. Many of us were followed, harassed and had anti semitic epithets painted on sidewalks and vehicles.

Common Saychel can have his opinion, Morgan’s minions have never stood on his doorstep yelling ‘death to Jews’. But here and now I will always rat out a neo nazi or racist. And like the last time, if they come to my door I will be armed.

I want to add that Glenn Morgan who is the person behind the FOIA requests made by ‘We the Governed’ has a rather unsavory history of harassment of public and private citizens. Among his allies are the Proud Boys who are known anti semites and a well known hate group here in the PNW.

I admire the effort that many put in to make this a political discussion rather than an issue of public health policies. The reality is, the virus is just starting to invade many rural areas across the US. We have no idea how deadly this virus will be in those areas. (Many of these areas are not served by the medical services that are available in urban areas.) Inner cities and poverty seem to be impacting the spread of the virus. Minorities are heavily impacted, just look at the decimation in Frum communities. The virus doesn’t care whether a state is red or blue .

As Tip O’Neil once said, ‘all politics is local’. It’s up to the voters to challenge their state politicians to develop effective responses to health epidemics. Pick up the phone and call your electeds. When you vote again, decide for yourself who will best serve your interests. Don’t whine organize. In the meantime read a variety of analysis of the disease spread, understand that mathematical models are only as good as the data that is input. Look at the maps available from Johns Hopkins and see where the disease clusters are. Certainly densely populated states may have the highest number of cases and/deaths. That’s just basic probability. What you can do now is enter into conversations with your school administrators on how they can improve access to remote learning, work with them to solve the basic problem of 10 kids two telephones when it comes to classes being delivered by phone. Engage state agencies and your community to figure out how the needs of non neurotypical children and adults can be filled during times like this.
Yea it’s hard being confined to quarters if you have a large family living in a small space and for some it’s even harder not having outside help come into the home. I’m high risk (lupus) and haven’t been out of the house since Feb 27. I’m lucky because I realize the internet can be an enormous help in times like this. I’ve figured out alternative exercise regimes without a gym. I talk to friends about the country either online, via facetime or using the phone. I know staying connected and remaining positive are gifts I give myself for my own personal wellbeing.

In the meantime, be kind, be happy, call on outside resources if your family, children and neighbors are having difficulty coping. This too shall pass.

Has anyone been able to verify if Zalenko tested those patients for Covid 19? Someone said he tested his patients for the flu, which flu?

Where does one donate to support the pop up hospitals in Monsey, 5 Towns and Monroe? They are bound to need operating expenses.

Without a controlled study there is know way of knowing if your cough would have gone away without the garlic. As others have said this is not the time to tout home remedies.

Does anyone know if the closed schools undergoing a cleaning and disinfection process.

“No the sky is not falling, but after you pay rent/mortgage in New York your bank account stays pretty low…..” We all have choices, even about where we live. I was the first of my family to leave the tri state Jewniverse decades ago. You can choose to face the financial challenges of living in the NY/NJ metro area or face the inconvenience of having to order your meat 3x a year and manage without the convenience of a kosher store on every corner. Of course those inconveniences balance out when the average home price in your area is $250k, car registration is $60per year, lower insurance rates (home, health and motor vehicle) and you have job skills/degree that simplifies a job search.

What kind of testing is done by spruce and distillery? How are their active ingredients (CBDs) measured, is their hemp organically certified, do they grow their own hemp or purchase it from other growers, do the growers use domestic organic seed or Chinese seed, what strains are used in specific compounds, is the hemp domestically grown or imported from China, what is the extraction process they use?

I live in an area with a number of small CBD manufacturers and few can afford the rigorous testing I would expect of a product I would purchase. I will purchase local products that meet the criteria I listed, not because they are cheaper, they are not, but because I like to support local businesses. In my area CBD products are on grocery store shelves, perusing the pricing for like kind, there is little cost variation. A company that doesn’t test, grow or process to my standards isn’t that much cheaper than the local products I would purchase.

CBDs are a relatively new mass market item. With that popularity comes those manufacturers that are simply profiteering and have zero concern with the quality issues I noted above. As always buyer beware.

Abortion will not go away if RvWade is set aside. Safe and legal abortion will be unavailable to most women. Rich women have always had access to safe abortions, it’s merely a matter of money.

Does the opposition to surgical abortion also include chemical abortion (pills)? Most of todays medical early pregnancy terminations are accomplished by pills.

There are a lot of claims being made here without anything to support them, women having abortions so they can fit in prom gowns, women having abortions so they can say they had an abortion woman carrying a healthy pregnancy to term only to decide to have the child killed during delivery . Does anyone here have any documentation to support these claims?

Ignoring all the other issues that are being raised. It would not benefit some frum families to receive another $1k per month. This amt may be sufficient to bump them off entitlement programs or raise their rent contributions under HUD section 8 vouchers.