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mdd, the fact that Poles surrendered because they were surrounded, does not mean they were not occupied and that they were not prosecuted. Soviets sent many Poles and Jews into gulag either based on their social status or based on their refusal to accept soviet citizenship.
what makes you think that Biden is a better strategist than Bibi? Biden has a history of having bad views as senator and VP plus several losses as a President. None of Biden’s advisers are known for strategic victories either. Bibi has years of dealing all kind of issues and is, over the years, seen as a responsible leader by majority of Israelis. I am not trying to convince you to respect Bibi, but I hope that you can acknowledge that Biden not giving Bibi what the latter wants to use is more likely to be bad for Israel, rather than good.
Arso > not all of Chazal said not to teach Torah to women, but that is the halocho as paskened both by the Rambam and Shulchan Aruch.
Right, I was just discussing gemorah. There are enough postings on YWN about this issue in general. The reason I am mentioning gemorah specifically – it reviews foundational issues and presents multiple views that are applicable. As, for example, Maharal discusses – Bavli gives us a method to apply Toah to different times and situations (we discussed this also here). Later poskim, however authoritative, may not always present all views that are not applicable to other times and cultures. As this is obviously an issue that depends on the society, then you need to start with analyzing gemora, not just look up Sh’A. I am not trying to argue for one conclusion or another. Maybe you think B’Y is exposing girls to too many chazal or maybe you think women should be paskening for other women, in any case you need to start your analysis from the Gemorah.
anyway, I am just trying to divert this insane topic to some saner ideas.
philosopher > Safaria is not my endorsement of them. I have read somewhere that they mistranslated a word with a woke translation.
You need to look at where translation comes from. Some of the meforshim, I think, might be amateur translations by volunteers. Gemora text itself is Steinsaltz translation.
> , is a known halachic shaila.
exactly, in this case, I did not want to, but Rav said I probably should due to total lack of awareness from the offender (before and after causing the accident). So, please describe how this happens under the Batei dinim.
fan > Bombs are expensive and theres only a limited amount
right, but you somehow presume that Tzahal is not aware of that and does not know how to allocate them between the missions.
current administration can’t even prevent repeated attacks on a candidate ..
CTL > Wrong again! The USSR invaded Poland in September 1939 joining on the side of the Nazis
Indeed, the commie history counts USSR’s entry into WW2 as 1941, ignoring their occupation of Poland and attempted occupation of Finland in 1939, and of Baltic countries in 1940, I may be missing some, like Bessarabia. Visiting Uman even before 1939 probably was not well advised, unless you were a pro-commie world-famous writer or journo, ready to tell the world how great USSR is.
On a more somber note, tefilos in Uman somehow were not helpful throughout 20th century – from WW1 to anarchists to Whites to Reds to Holodomor to WW2 … They started helping in 1990s but the region is back downhills…
Chazal, plural, didn’t say not to teach gemora to ladies, I believe one in gemora did: r Eliezer… and then Beruria learned from 100 teachers, so at least 100 were OK with it.
I once suggested to a rav to have a shiur on eyn Yaakov for women. He refused, “I can’t teach gemora to women “. When I mentioned that I share content of his gemora classes with female members of my household, he had no problem with that. So, reluctance seems to be due to public image and maybe not for everyone.
My understanding is that sefaria has curated material that they organized and also ability for users to upload their own material. The latter is of course, buyers beware. If you read a sugya on their site, it is clear what is what.
1, T is unpredictable, so the best we can go is his previous record. It was pretty positive to Israel. Both in his direct dealings with Israel (Yerushalaim, Golan, Abrahamic accords) and indirect – Suleimani, ISIS. Could he do something different? sure. But with the other side, we have no idea.
Interesting opinion poll from a liberal group of non-Jewish students in the universities with significant Jewish presence – these are our future leaders, and probably similar to those already graduated: 1/3 showed negative attitudes towards Jews. Of these 1/3:
50% have negative attitudes towards Jews as people and are 50% progs, 30% moderate, 20% conservative. Given that most students are to the left, this seems like even distribution
50% have negative attitudes towards Israel, of which 90% are progressive …So, no doubt, political pressure against Israel is currently from the left
Equating Karaims to MO clearly comes from someone who met neither, but listened to some speaker.
Karaims were also different from individuals violating something: they were centuries-old communities that followed their tradition. Maybe modern Reform is a better comparison, as they follow generations of their leaders. I had once a reform person helping me out with a ride during the summer trying to make sure I’ll be at the destination by 5pm as he thought that shabbat starts 5pm sharp every week they way they celebrate at his temple – and he was intent that I don’t violate it. Glad we cleared it on the way, or he’d get a speeding ticket.
Also, are Karaims mehalel shabbos miduaraita? I picture them sitting in the dark, eating cold pizza without their wives. Weird, yes, but what malochos do they perform in the process?
Pony, I get your point – you are saying Hatzolah itself did not protest. Assuming this is true, still a community with many Talmidei Chachomim should have a way to jointly manage community-wide issues.
While we are in this topic, can someone share their, or heard of, experiences of addressing daily issues via Batei Din? Here, in OOT community, when I was involved in a minor accident created by a member of the kahal, a Rav advised me to (surely) report this via insurance to make sure he learned the lesson. I presume in a more Jewishly-dense community, fender benders and property encroachments are resolved via Batei Din. What are your actual experiences?
fan dang> Biden “withheld” arms to Israel’s Gaza effort…. so that they could be used against Hezbollah in more important ways. The bombs he withheld wouldn’t have done anything effective in Gaza.
You are tying yourself into a pretzel, hope there is someone else in your flat to untie you. You seem to be saying that Tzahal does not know how to allocate the bombs correctly, so it needs US State Dept to come and force the right policies … The same ones that advise Ukrainians not to waste missiles on Russia proper, and the same ones that advised Afghani government to commit suicide by continueing holding on without US support for several months to avoid
a PR disaster. Nice, maybe Staties should just appoint an Israeli prime minister that they think is good for Israelis.> I doubt they are so sophisticated.
Most decisions are based on machine learning that uses both manually crafted and automatically generated features, so it is not usually possible to find out what the decision is made on. But count of supporting and contradictory statements seems like a reasonable feature to use.
As to how far someone would go in optimizing the system – one high-end web designer went public complaining about his work for google some years ago. He designed a good-looking blue line on the google main page. Google engineers tested his against another hue and found out that the other hue gets 5% improvement in something, so they changed the hue to the more plain-looking one despite the protests of this artist.
>? Or only Jews?
I am sure they’ll take Jewish volunteers. In fact, Kiev Rav’s son was just niftar fighting for Ukraine … Maybe they can fashion this visit as a solidarity visit, bring tefilos for the safety of the Ukranians and donate some drones. And organize matzah production and export it. (Russians just shot a ship carrying Ukrainian grain to Mitzrayim, and as I said before, matzah is probably the best dollar/pound product they could export, beats even vodka).
If you have a mother in law that can figure out where you are at 1000 km and send Iranian drones at you, you should have more common saychel when choosing in laws.
Why not go to lubavich or kevurim of Esther and Yonah?
Good to see that the only defense is to double down on insults.
I am curious is it a personal issue or there are actual rabonim that equate mo talmidei chachamim with conservatives?
Menachem, right, good example. But YWM works similarly to Wikipedia – you expect a discussion and variety of opinions on a controversial topic. So, if there is a statement that is not contradicted, then Google probably uses shtika kmodeh heuristic.
Pony, right, so the original Hatzolah might call the new one to beis din. Bava Basra discusses that a professional guild can regulate their members, but if there is a Talmid Chacham, they should go to him for a ruling. Maybe, Hatzolah will be limited to their own losses, and they do not have a standing to defend community standards?
Menachem >> Also, the nicknames Alter/Mittlele rebbes have a hint of upcoming finality, not sure what exactly happened
> They got these titles during the leadership of the next rebbe. During their lifetime they were called “the Rebbe.”Peshita .. I did not think that a rebbe will call himself a “middle” – Just why the 3rd rebbe thought, or was thought of, as last? That is what oldest and middle imply. I had this question for a long time, curious to know
> Not sure if I would base my derech on Dennis Prager, but this has indeed been my mehalech here.
I am not bringing the name as an authority, just agree with his sevorah (and seems like you do too), and trying to quote b’shem omro.
As I concluded, though, the moment a person changes his behavior based on that belief towards unacceptable, then there is an issue. If, for example, if someone disregards learning other Torah sources because his rebbe is moschiach.
I am not emotionally disturbed by the new lows by someone with such name, but I am just curious what are mod standards.
I attended a shiur by R Willig and his lomdus is outstanding. What makes name-calling him ok here, while not others? Jst trying to understand the standard, maybe I need to go back to reading the rules of the site, maybe it says something there?YS, right. At the same time, many established machine learning methods have non-magic properties, such out-of-sample error and generalization capabilities (such as VC dimension).
if we go into these matters, could you please tell me what is the currently accepted explanation for those rabonim who told Yidden not to leave Europe?
why are we dealing with letters from Rabonim instead of getting a psak from a beis din?
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> car-blocker
toonaphish – do you live on my block?! Because I know him too! Shazsheri is surely jesting that it is a “one time annoyance”. Mine is doing it repeatedly with confidence – replying to an “am haaretz” who wants to drive out that this is “davening time”. I tried reproving him indirectly, such as visible avoiding shaking his hand publicly immediately after his rude behavior, hoping for Pavlovian effect, but this did not help. I find it beyond my capabilities to do a proper tochacha and cop out with the halocha that if you are not able to, you don’t have to.
To bring some sholom here – Dennis Prager says that he does not want to discuss future with his non-Jewish political partners – as long as they are our partners right now, when M comes, we will then discuss whether he came first or second time. Similarly, ma nafka mina of the debate of whether a particular Rebbe will be a Moschiach? If my local Rav is destined to be a moschiach – will other Rabonim oblige to follow his psak now? Lo b’shmayim hi…
Now, if this belief leads people to drive on red light on the way to ohel, then we can deal with that directly.
Without going into rishonim – from my limited exposure to Chabad, nobody discussed mesim when LR was alive and even shortly after. When Rebbe was very sick, the crazy stuff was to declare him moschiach ASAP while he is in this world. It took a little time to re-organize and start a new theory. This _is_ similar to the other religion(s) – when theories change according to events. According to Karl Popper, a real theory is falsifiable – that is it will be declared not true, rather than amended, after some conceivable events. Halochos of false navi are similar.
Maybe, there were previous cases when someone was considered a M aharei misah – previous LR? Also, the nicknames Alter/Mittlele rebbes have a hint of upcoming finality, not sure what exactly happened. If this indeed happened, maybe we can do after-action analysis of those – and how they ended.
Started in 1853, Samson Raphael Hirsch School was a Jewish Orthodox school in Frankfurt am Main . It was a secondary school for boys and a lyceum for girls of the Israelite Religious Society .
Mizrachi Yavne started in 1902 in Vilno, girls school was in Slobodka, Kovno; not sure of the founding year.
BY schools had 50,000 students in 1934 Poland. Seems like BY achieved mass attendance comparing with other smaller schools. that probably means poorer girls. But the idea of girl education was clearly there before. And note that better off people might have used private tutors.
So, this is a good test for our modern social system. Is there a beis din, regular or zabla, that can take this case? If not in Lakewood, then when?
Be careful what you write in public domain. Your grandchildren will be learning from LLMs that were trained on your posts.
akuperma, right, one kollelnik did some research several years ago about self-driving cars – who is liable for life-and-death decisions. Most likely the developer. For example, if the car needs to resolve the famous dilemma whether to continue straight and kill person set {A} or turn and kill person set {B} – it is conceivable that the car can ID all the people, evaluate their net worth, value for humanity, insurance coverage, likelihood to sue – and make decision based on factors that are not according to halakha. Are you allowed to drive a car like that?
> She may have a strong preference who she wants to be married to after Techiyas Hameisim.
Lost > According to shaar hagilgulimOk, so she might let Hashem know of her preferences when she davens. Why are you spending your energy on figuring out who will be whose wife in olam habo. In this world, halakha presumes that a woman prefers someone to bring (uncooked) food into the house and say kiddush for her. Use your energy on that. Convince your wives to do chesed and add another one.
modern, true, I neglected to say – talking about where Sara Schneirer lived. Chofetz Chaim wrote several letters addressed to women in general and women assemblies in 1920s Poland – he asked them to support kosher hedorim for their sons; he asked them to learn halochos niddah; and to read this halochos (that he summarized in 1-2 pages of the letter) to other women who are not fortunate enough to know how to read. In none of these letter I found him suggesting to teach those women alef-beis or to open schools for poor girls. As he obviously valued women literacy, maybe he saw no hope in calling for women’s school or thought that limited resources should be spent on boys. That resources were severely limited is demonstrated in his other letters where he asks Polish authorities to suspend sanitary regulation on mikvaos explaining that Jewish communities will not be able to afford having clean mikvas.
modern, you are right, LLMs use statistics of word salad they were trained on to produce a similar looking word salad. In truth, many human writers operate in a similar way! Traditional statistics and machine learning deals with producing results that have statistical validity. After initial excitement and marketing blitz, players seem to start working on adding actual facts to nice-looking text. You might search for actual facts in, say, wikipedia, with all obvious caveats. Some of the wikipedia data is already organized in machine-readable form (see wikidata) and used for answering queries. There are, proprietary, sources of reliable data also.
> would agree it is best for the wife to remarry after becoming an almana
I think halakha directs men to remarry, and at the same time assumes that the woman would like to be married. I don’t know whether halakha taki directs women to look for another husband.
Discussions of what happened during the war is missing the boat _literally_ – the boats that were available to at least some who wanted to leave troublesome Europe to almost any other place in the world, including goldene medinah and zionist Palestine. Beltzer Rebbe admitted after the war that he mislead people who relied on him, maybe some others also. In truth, it was not easy to predict the horrors, some like R Elhanan had a premonition. Poland as a whole, both non-Jews and Jews, felt very optimistic based on their victory in 1920 war against USSR, their strong cavalry, their flourishing democracy after a couple of century of being colonized by neighboring empires, and their alliances with major powers. Still, sober analysis could lead people to conclusion that living between Communists and Nazis is not an ideal place. The realities of 20th century were sinking in too slowly. Maybe if Yidden paid more attention to horrors of USSR (dismissed by some as excesses) and Nazi Germany (dismissed as happening to assimilated Jews only), they would react better.
Still, I wonder how many people in CR are descendants from those who left Europe and those who stayed. Show of hands?
> circulated the notorious canard that Gedolei Yisroel were responsible for the destruction of many communities because they did not urge immigration. This charge is, of course, a gross distortion of the truth,
Could someone clarify what the Rav meant here by “distortion of truth”? Especially in light of the poster’s further quotes.
Rabbonim should step in and force competing organizations to cooperate when necessary. For example, if one of them can handle simple cases but not complicated ones, they should refer potentially complicated cases to their competitor. This is done. We have competing kashrus organizations certifying each other’s ingredients, for example.
Could we not compare learning with working (on both or more sides of this issue).
A working person works as much as he, and his wife, wants him to. In my opinion, most, including myself, should work less and spend more time learning and raising their families.
A modern learning person is usually supported by someone else. If he is supported by the working wife or a shver or a Zevulun, he should learn as much as they demand from him. If he is supported by the kehillah, then CR posters can question his time, as much as they are part of the kehillah … If they are, fully or in part, supported by US or Israeli taxpayers (directly or thru their wives and sponsors applying for various programs), then they should make sure they are not violating any laws and creating any Hillul Hashem by channeling funds for poor people into their learning. In this case, shteiging 24 hours a day will not help, same as cooking pork for 10 hours will not make into kosher beef.
a relevant story is about widow of R Eleizer who first kept his body in the attic for years and then refused to marry Rebbi – not because Rebbi was not learned enough, but because he did not do enough chesed comparing with her first hubsand.
What about a katlanis who had a zechus to be married to three tzaddikim? Do they form a beis din and vote on her fate?