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Chazal, plural, didn’t say not to teach gemora to ladies, I believe one in gemora did: r Eliezer… and then Beruria learned from 100 teachers, so at least 100 were OK with it.
I once suggested to a rav to have a shiur on eyn Yaakov for women. He refused, “I can’t teach gemora to women “. When I mentioned that I share content of his gemora classes with female members of my household, he had no problem with that. So, reluctance seems to be due to public image and maybe not for everyone.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMy understanding is that sefaria has curated material that they organized and also ability for users to upload their own material. The latter is of course, buyers beware. If you read a sugya on their site, it is clear what is what.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant1, T is unpredictable, so the best we can go is his previous record. It was pretty positive to Israel. Both in his direct dealings with Israel (Yerushalaim, Golan, Abrahamic accords) and indirect – Suleimani, ISIS. Could he do something different? sure. But with the other side, we have no idea.
Interesting opinion poll from a liberal group of non-Jewish students in the universities with significant Jewish presence – these are our future leaders, and probably similar to those already graduated: 1/3 showed negative attitudes towards Jews. Of these 1/3:
50% have negative attitudes towards Jews as people and are 50% progs, 30% moderate, 20% conservative. Given that most students are to the left, this seems like even distribution
50% have negative attitudes towards Israel, of which 90% are progressive …So, no doubt, political pressure against Israel is currently from the left
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantEquating Karaims to MO clearly comes from someone who met neither, but listened to some speaker.
Karaims were also different from individuals violating something: they were centuries-old communities that followed their tradition. Maybe modern Reform is a better comparison, as they follow generations of their leaders. I had once a reform person helping me out with a ride during the summer trying to make sure I’ll be at the destination by 5pm as he thought that shabbat starts 5pm sharp every week they way they celebrate at his temple – and he was intent that I don’t violate it. Glad we cleared it on the way, or he’d get a speeding ticket.
Also, are Karaims mehalel shabbos miduaraita? I picture them sitting in the dark, eating cold pizza without their wives. Weird, yes, but what malochos do they perform in the process?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantPony, I get your point – you are saying Hatzolah itself did not protest. Assuming this is true, still a community with many Talmidei Chachomim should have a way to jointly manage community-wide issues.
While we are in this topic, can someone share their, or heard of, experiences of addressing daily issues via Batei Din? Here, in OOT community, when I was involved in a minor accident created by a member of the kahal, a Rav advised me to (surely) report this via insurance to make sure he learned the lesson. I presume in a more Jewishly-dense community, fender benders and property encroachments are resolved via Batei Din. What are your actual experiences?
September 15, 2024 7:57 am at 7:57 am in reply to: Why Jews are Quitting the Democratic Party #2314581Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantfan dang> Biden “withheld” arms to Israel’s Gaza effort…. so that they could be used against Hezbollah in more important ways. The bombs he withheld wouldn’t have done anything effective in Gaza.
You are tying yourself into a pretzel, hope there is someone else in your flat to untie you. You seem to be saying that Tzahal does not know how to allocate the bombs correctly, so it needs US State Dept to come and force the right policies … The same ones that advise Ukrainians not to waste missiles on Russia proper, and the same ones that advised Afghani government to commit suicide by continueing holding on without US support for several months to avoid
a PR disaster. Nice, maybe Staties should just appoint an Israeli prime minister that they think is good for Israelis.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantsmerel, this is another good hiluk, thanks – in which topics to listen. While, as I mentioned before, my daas Torah paskens that there is no daas Torah, I still think that we should not limit which topics are of interest to Torah. Tzedek Tzedek tirdof alone would include anything that affects social issues. As another example, a group of Rabbonim offer job search advise at the end of Kiddushin (not just the often repeated last one that one should only learn Torah).
September 15, 2024 7:56 am at 7:56 am in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2314578Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> I doubt they are so sophisticated.
Most decisions are based on machine learning that uses both manually crafted and automatically generated features, so it is not usually possible to find out what the decision is made on. But count of supporting and contradictory statements seems like a reasonable feature to use.
As to how far someone would go in optimizing the system – one high-end web designer went public complaining about his work for google some years ago. He designed a good-looking blue line on the google main page. Google engineers tested his against another hue and found out that the other hue gets 5% improvement in something, so they changed the hue to the more plain-looking one despite the protests of this artist.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant>? Or only Jews?
I am sure they’ll take Jewish volunteers. In fact, Kiev Rav’s son was just niftar fighting for Ukraine … Maybe they can fashion this visit as a solidarity visit, bring tefilos for the safety of the Ukranians and donate some drones. And organize matzah production and export it. (Russians just shot a ship carrying Ukrainian grain to Mitzrayim, and as I said before, matzah is probably the best dollar/pound product they could export, beats even vodka).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIf you have a mother in law that can figure out where you are at 1000 km and send Iranian drones at you, you should have more common saychel when choosing in laws.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWhy not go to lubavich or kevurim of Esther and Yonah?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGood to see that the only defense is to double down on insults.
I am curious is it a personal issue or there are actual rabonim that equate mo talmidei chachamim with conservatives?
September 12, 2024 8:40 am at 8:40 am in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2314230Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMenachem, right, good example. But YWM works similarly to Wikipedia – you expect a discussion and variety of opinions on a controversial topic. So, if there is a statement that is not contradicted, then Google probably uses shtika kmodeh heuristic.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantPony, right, so the original Hatzolah might call the new one to beis din. Bava Basra discusses that a professional guild can regulate their members, but if there is a Talmid Chacham, they should go to him for a ruling. Maybe, Hatzolah will be limited to their own losses, and they do not have a standing to defend community standards?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMenachem >> Also, the nicknames Alter/Mittlele rebbes have a hint of upcoming finality, not sure what exactly happened
> They got these titles during the leadership of the next rebbe. During their lifetime they were called “the Rebbe.”Peshita .. I did not think that a rebbe will call himself a “middle” – Just why the 3rd rebbe thought, or was thought of, as last? That is what oldest and middle imply. I had this question for a long time, curious to know
> Not sure if I would base my derech on Dennis Prager, but this has indeed been my mehalech here.
I am not bringing the name as an authority, just agree with his sevorah (and seems like you do too), and trying to quote b’shem omro.
As I concluded, though, the moment a person changes his behavior based on that belief towards unacceptable, then there is an issue. If, for example, if someone disregards learning other Torah sources because his rebbe is moschiach.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMenachem, this seems to be saying – also listen to a shofet, even if he is not so much chacham? Yiftah?
Smerel, it is a good point about machlokes. Maybe, this is what Rashi and others presume without saying so explicitly – that we are discussing open communal behaviors, not private matters (as is the overall theme of the psukim around this).
Even in public matters, there might be ways to hold your own, without causing a machlokes. I once heard a Talmid Chacham talking at a conference for a certain social problem. He described what he does and then pointed to the head of a bigger organization sitting on the panel and said – Rav suggested that we join our efforts, but I prefer to run my own for which I can be fully responsible. That is, he clearly disagreed on something, but did not want to publicize the disagreement, just the fact that his group is doing things the way he thinks is kosher.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI am not emotionally disturbed by the new lows by someone with such name, but I am just curious what are mod standards.
I attended a shiur by R Willig and his lomdus is outstanding. What makes name-calling him ok here, while not others? Jst trying to understand the standard, maybe I need to go back to reading the rules of the site, maybe it says something there?September 11, 2024 10:25 am at 10:25 am in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2313892Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYS, right. At the same time, many established machine learning methods have non-magic properties, such out-of-sample error and generalization capabilities (such as VC dimension).
September 11, 2024 10:25 am at 10:25 am in reply to: Terrorists Murdered Hostages Shortly Before They Were Located #2313891Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantif we go into these matters, could you please tell me what is the currently accepted explanation for those rabonim who told Yidden not to leave Europe?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantwhy are we dealing with letters from Rabonim instead of getting a psak from a beis din?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant1, +1
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> car-blocker
toonaphish – do you live on my block?! Because I know him too! Shazsheri is surely jesting that it is a “one time annoyance”. Mine is doing it repeatedly with confidence – replying to an “am haaretz” who wants to drive out that this is “davening time”. I tried reproving him indirectly, such as visible avoiding shaking his hand publicly immediately after his rude behavior, hoping for Pavlovian effect, but this did not help. I find it beyond my capabilities to do a proper tochacha and cop out with the halocha that if you are not able to, you don’t have to.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantA question – so what if I do not confront the Rav?
It could be that I am just full of myself in certain area of halakha or chochma and I don’t think Rav feels the same or I have more serious reasons. Let’s say I respect him in many aspects and his deep Torah learning, but I recognize his limitations? For example, he would not pasken against his roshei yeshovos directly even as his learnign in general is wider than theirs; or he will be in a difficult social position if the psak goes against community parnasim; or the psak will cause mahlokes if publicized – and he may not trust me to keep the secret psak…
So, in the case where I am able to confront but do not – do I still have a license to carry my own opinion?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantTo bring some sholom here – Dennis Prager says that he does not want to discuss future with his non-Jewish political partners – as long as they are our partners right now, when M comes, we will then discuss whether he came first or second time. Similarly, ma nafka mina of the debate of whether a particular Rebbe will be a Moschiach? If my local Rav is destined to be a moschiach – will other Rabonim oblige to follow his psak now? Lo b’shmayim hi…
Now, if this belief leads people to drive on red light on the way to ohel, then we can deal with that directly.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWithout going into rishonim – from my limited exposure to Chabad, nobody discussed mesim when LR was alive and even shortly after. When Rebbe was very sick, the crazy stuff was to declare him moschiach ASAP while he is in this world. It took a little time to re-organize and start a new theory. This _is_ similar to the other religion(s) – when theories change according to events. According to Karl Popper, a real theory is falsifiable – that is it will be declared not true, rather than amended, after some conceivable events. Halochos of false navi are similar.
Maybe, there were previous cases when someone was considered a M aharei misah – previous LR? Also, the nicknames Alter/Mittlele rebbes have a hint of upcoming finality, not sure what exactly happened. If this indeed happened, maybe we can do after-action analysis of those – and how they ended.
September 10, 2024 10:01 am at 10:01 am in reply to: My Letter to Sarah Schneirer about School Trauma from the Matzav Inbox: #2313388Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantStarted in 1853, Samson Raphael Hirsch School was a Jewish Orthodox school in Frankfurt am Main . It was a secondary school for boys and a lyceum for girls of the Israelite Religious Society .
Mizrachi Yavne started in 1902 in Vilno, girls school was in Slobodka, Kovno; not sure of the founding year.
BY schools had 50,000 students in 1934 Poland. Seems like BY achieved mass attendance comparing with other smaller schools. that probably means poorer girls. But the idea of girl education was clearly there before. And note that better off people might have used private tutors.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantNehama Leibowitz brings Haketav Vehakabbalah: but if you are absolutely certain tha they are mistaken, the Talmud has already instructed you not to listen to them in the event of them calling the right, left etc – Rashi’s words needs amending.
I also see someone musing on the Ramban’s position that one can have his own opinion until he presented his argument to BDG, that the goal is unity. So, the one who disagrees should go and make his argument. A relevant case that also talks about unity – Mishna Rosh Hashona where R Gamliel forces R Yehoshua to violate – arguably – Yom Kippur.
So, if we apply unity criterion – it may not be appropriate to Jewry in general with such large division on many social issues, but it can apply to a specific community. If you are member of a homogeneous kehilah, you need to be mindful of the unity.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMenachem, thanks. Having authorities on both sides seems to be not helpful when the issue is … should we follow them. So far, we got several ways to split the difference:
– yor own clear knowledge v. some sofek
– beit din hagadol v our times
– being able to present the case to the judge
– did Rashi have a different girsa or on purpose omitting words from SifreAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSo, this is a good test for our modern social system. Is there a beis din, regular or zabla, that can take this case? If not in Lakewood, then when?
September 10, 2024 10:01 am at 10:01 am in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2313348Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantBe careful what you write in public domain. Your grandchildren will be learning from LLMs that were trained on your posts.
September 10, 2024 10:01 am at 10:01 am in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2313346Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantakuperma, right, one kollelnik did some research several years ago about self-driving cars – who is liable for life-and-death decisions. Most likely the developer. For example, if the car needs to resolve the famous dilemma whether to continue straight and kill person set {A} or turn and kill person set {B} – it is conceivable that the car can ID all the people, evaluate their net worth, value for humanity, insurance coverage, likelihood to sue – and make decision based on factors that are not according to halakha. Are you allowed to drive a car like that?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantInteresting about sifre versions. As Rashi is not quoting be eine einecha, maybe he also had a different girsa? But such important methodological question can’t hang on a girsa of one sifre, thanks for bringing additional sources.
September 9, 2024 10:42 am at 10:42 am in reply to: Who Keeps the Wife Who Was Married Twice? #2313116Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> She may have a strong preference who she wants to be married to after Techiyas Hameisim.
Lost > According to shaar hagilgulimOk, so she might let Hashem know of her preferences when she davens. Why are you spending your energy on figuring out who will be whose wife in olam habo. In this world, halakha presumes that a woman prefers someone to bring (uncooked) food into the house and say kiddush for her. Use your energy on that. Convince your wives to do chesed and add another one.
September 9, 2024 10:42 am at 10:42 am in reply to: My Letter to Sarah Schneirer about School Trauma from the Matzav Inbox: #2313114Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantmodern, true, I neglected to say – talking about where Sara Schneirer lived. Chofetz Chaim wrote several letters addressed to women in general and women assemblies in 1920s Poland – he asked them to support kosher hedorim for their sons; he asked them to learn halochos niddah; and to read this halochos (that he summarized in 1-2 pages of the letter) to other women who are not fortunate enough to know how to read. In none of these letter I found him suggesting to teach those women alef-beis or to open schools for poor girls. As he obviously valued women literacy, maybe he saw no hope in calling for women’s school or thought that limited resources should be spent on boys. That resources were severely limited is demonstrated in his other letters where he asks Polish authorities to suspend sanitary regulation on mikvaos explaining that Jewish communities will not be able to afford having clean mikvas.
September 9, 2024 10:41 am at 10:41 am in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2313113Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantmodern, you are right, LLMs use statistics of word salad they were trained on to produce a similar looking word salad. In truth, many human writers operate in a similar way! Traditional statistics and machine learning deals with producing results that have statistical validity. After initial excitement and marketing blitz, players seem to start working on adding actual facts to nice-looking text. You might search for actual facts in, say, wikipedia, with all obvious caveats. Some of the wikipedia data is already organized in machine-readable form (see wikidata) and used for answering queries. There are, proprietary, sources of reliable data also.
September 9, 2024 12:21 am at 12:21 am in reply to: Who Keeps the Wife Who Was Married Twice? #2312754Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> would agree it is best for the wife to remarry after becoming an almana
I think halakha directs men to remarry, and at the same time assumes that the woman would like to be married. I don’t know whether halakha taki directs women to look for another husband.
September 9, 2024 12:21 am at 12:21 am in reply to: Terrorists Murdered Hostages Shortly Before They Were Located #2312906Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDiscussions of what happened during the war is missing the boat _literally_ – the boats that were available to at least some who wanted to leave troublesome Europe to almost any other place in the world, including goldene medinah and zionist Palestine. Beltzer Rebbe admitted after the war that he mislead people who relied on him, maybe some others also. In truth, it was not easy to predict the horrors, some like R Elhanan had a premonition. Poland as a whole, both non-Jews and Jews, felt very optimistic based on their victory in 1920 war against USSR, their strong cavalry, their flourishing democracy after a couple of century of being colonized by neighboring empires, and their alliances with major powers. Still, sober analysis could lead people to conclusion that living between Communists and Nazis is not an ideal place. The realities of 20th century were sinking in too slowly. Maybe if Yidden paid more attention to horrors of USSR (dismissed by some as excesses) and Nazi Germany (dismissed as happening to assimilated Jews only), they would react better.
Still, I wonder how many people in CR are descendants from those who left Europe and those who stayed. Show of hands?
September 9, 2024 12:21 am at 12:21 am in reply to: Terrorists Murdered Hostages Shortly Before They Were Located #2312757Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> circulated the notorious canard that Gedolei Yisroel were responsible for the destruction of many communities because they did not urge immigration. This charge is, of course, a gross distortion of the truth,
Could someone clarify what the Rav meant here by “distortion of truth”? Especially in light of the poster’s further quotes.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRabbonim should step in and force competing organizations to cooperate when necessary. For example, if one of them can handle simple cases but not complicated ones, they should refer potentially complicated cases to their competitor. This is done. We have competing kashrus organizations certifying each other’s ingredients, for example.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCould we not compare learning with working (on both or more sides of this issue).
A working person works as much as he, and his wife, wants him to. In my opinion, most, including myself, should work less and spend more time learning and raising their families.
A modern learning person is usually supported by someone else. If he is supported by the working wife or a shver or a Zevulun, he should learn as much as they demand from him. If he is supported by the kehillah, then CR posters can question his time, as much as they are part of the kehillah … If they are, fully or in part, supported by US or Israeli taxpayers (directly or thru their wives and sponsors applying for various programs), then they should make sure they are not violating any laws and creating any Hillul Hashem by channeling funds for poor people into their learning. In this case, shteiging 24 hours a day will not help, same as cooking pork for 10 hours will not make into kosher beef.
September 8, 2024 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm in reply to: Who Keeps the Wife Who Was Married Twice? #2312696Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipanta relevant story is about widow of R Eleizer who first kept his body in the attic for years and then refused to marry Rebbi – not because Rebbi was not learned enough, but because he did not do enough chesed comparing with her first hubsand.
September 8, 2024 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm in reply to: Who Keeps the Wife Who Was Married Twice? #2312695Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWhat about a katlanis who had a zechus to be married to three tzaddikim? Do they form a beis din and vote on her fate?
September 8, 2024 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm in reply to: Trump: ‘Israel will no longer exist if Harris becomes president’ #2312694Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYou need to read T seriously, but not literally. He already was a President and did a lot of good things for Israel. Can he change his mind, who knows, but we have a pretty good record.
Kamala already showed her attitude towards Israel and, especially, the current government. At best, you can hope that Israelis will be accommodating, elect a left-wing government, and follow Kamala’s policies and so she will not raise her accusing finger at Israel the way she did with Biden. Given that Israelis stopped voting for real left like 10-20 years ago, this is not likely. Even a centrist government will be difficult to maintain as it will include some economic rightwing, some commies, some Arabs, Sephardim, etc.
September 8, 2024 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2312670Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantNon> how LLMs (Large Language Models) AI work,
Well, first, nobody, even LLM, knows how exactly it works, of course …
Note that while LLM is not fully coded by the programmer, it is dependent on the training data that programmer fed into LLM. One hypothesis from an expert is that the current generation of LLMs is the best we will have (contrary to the usual always-improving tech). Explanation: LLM learns from publicly available texts. Next generation of human writers will be writing with the help of current LLMs, directly or indirectly, leading to decreasing quality while increasing quantity. Thus, next generation of LLMs will be essentially learning from the noisy data it generated. This is an AI version of “yeridas hadoros”.
This is somewhat believable as we already see now that people using Internet are not always smarter than people reading seforim… I am hopeful, though, that we still have enough of informed individuals who will understand the problem and start training LLMs on a combination of Plato, Aristotle, Gemora and Rashi.
September 8, 2024 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm in reply to: Terrorists Murdered Hostages Shortly Before They Were Located #2312651Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAs some say here, situation is not that simple. Keep in mind that Israeli government has more information than CR posters. If they need certain conditions, they are most likely basing them on specific information they have. Do they have perfect information and doing perfect analysis, not necessarily, as evident by the posture they had a year ago. If you are so smart, you should have complained on Sep 7, 2023. If not, give the decision-makers some benefit of the doubt and do not participate in political actions that makes their work harder even if you are “following your feelings”.
September 8, 2024 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm in reply to: My Letter to Sarah Schneirer about School Trauma from the Matzav Inbox: #2312649Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFirst, Ms Schneirer did not offer olam habo to anyone. She tried to help others the best way she could. Some rabonim, like Chofetz Chaim (*) and Beltzer Rebbe, favored her efforts, many others did not and made it not easy for her. Be realistic – she is not supervising BY brand min hashmayim, the way McDonalds Corp does with their franchise. So, a school claiming BY label is run by specific people the way they see fit, within certain limits. OOT BYs are different from in-town ones, for example. And what is “asur by gedolim” in one, would be OK in others.
So, the main lesson from Ms Schneirer is that educating girls is important. To clarify the problem she was solving: boys went to schools that were paid for by relatively affluent Yidden and poor ones got included. As there were no established schools for girls, rich Jews used tutors and poor ones were left ignoramas. So, maybe apply the same approach today. Find a small group of girl parents who can afford paying tuition and want companionship of several other girls and start your own classes. Find a kollel yungerman who will teach them chumash and Rashi, his wife to teach them davening and middos, enroll online to get English and Maths. This will not be a full-blown BY with entertainment, but you can always enhance it later, maybe apply for Jewish Federation grants to help you or find a Rav who will be willing to give high quality classes a couple of times a week. This is way better that sitting around, complaining about out-of-control school admins. Think what lessons you want your children to learn.
September 8, 2024 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm in reply to: Stupid Question, but would Appreciate any Smart Answers. #2312633Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThere are reports from WW2 of most “secular” Yidden changing, or revealing, their better parts at critical moments, such as Polish Bund members running to save sifrei Torah from a burning shul and being killed for that. Given the background of most “secular” Jews today, you can safely presume their neshoma is in place and will reveal it.
September 8, 2024 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm in reply to: Who Keeps the Wife Who Was Married Twice? #2312632Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWhy not spend your time helping widows and widowers, and others, to find shiduchim b’olam haze instead of speculating? The only issue l’maase I see here is that some widows were reluctant to re-marry to 2nd husbands who were not at the level if their first ones. If anyone here is such a lady, please press on. If you are a bachelor wooing such a lady, the solution is simple – be a better mench… Although gemora warns about second marriages – not all etzavim shavim, four people in bed, etc
September 7, 2024 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm in reply to: Re: Geneiva is Geneva Switzerland according to AI #2312365Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI think google search now makes a decision (or combines one after another) whether to (1) do simple search (2) look up a knowledge graph that contains previously collected structured info, such as people’s northplace, job, etc – this is partially taken from wikipedia/wikidata (3) call AI similar to chatGPT. In this case, it seems that this original decision-making was at fault and calling a GPT directly is better.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantqwerty, I understand your feelings, but am not sure I understand your argument about Avraham. How’s caring about other people an insult to him, given that he was arguing to save Sdom, etc?
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