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People half joke about buying a lottery ticket to give Hashem a kli to support a tzaddik without an open nes. Day trading is even better
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYou shouldn’t say that you can’t succeed, as it says: if someone says I didn’t work and succeeded, don’t believe him. Extra competitive market establishes a baseline, so if you have an extra insight, coming more from wisdom than obvious daily numbers, try small or virtually without actual trades and see if your strategy works.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCtl, you are sitting on great information: what are typical successful people these days and decades earlier?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIt is an observation errr that one needs maxwell equations to trade. Simply, at some point physics phds had no path to productive employment and wall street started exploring numerical simulations instead of classical formulae. So having Monte Carlo methods on your resume allowed these physicists to ruin economy by their ignorance of economy. You would be better off knowing a specific industry, statistics, machine learning, finance, psychology, sociology and how to daven.
At the end, this is a marginally productive activity, yes efficient markets help society, but there are many other jobs that will have positive impact on Hashem’s world 🌎
September 13, 2023 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm in reply to: The Rambam on the Linearity of Time, or Its Lack of Thereof. #2225500Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipanttorahlife > thinking takes time.
Indeed, see “Thinking, Fast and Slow” by Nobel Reb Daniel Kahneman
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol, this takes to the other thread about a proper balance between nigleh and nistar.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI am asking you to add housing as you might know better what it is.
But to address your concerns directly:
1) this was discussed during Gingrich’s welfare reform: many people were better off on welfare in a short term, leading to multi-generational decline and trap. Need to look beyond today’s money to the future.2) We, as a community, do a lot of things that are not most convenient – not work a day a week, eat overpriced food, abstain from our wives for part of the month. See Beitza 25 that this is all training of our middah of savlanut. So, we could do the right thing here if we were motivated. Maybe not as perfect as other chumros, but at least some.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDid at least some of R Salanter’s students spend a lot of time on mussar rather than gemora? This illustrates a difference between mussar/middos that might precede learning and kabbala that should come later.
Frankly, in our times, nigleh gives us so much new material: interactions w/ colleges, science, psychology, medicine, medinas isroel, etc I can not see getting to nistar until I am 80, bli neder
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIs day trading karov to gambling? You are either a fool or a thief, and posul miedut?
September 13, 2023 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2225493Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThis thread is closed for Yomin Naroim and will reopen when M[o|a]shiach comes, bemeheta b’yomenu.
But let me attempt to have the last vort: R Yaakov Kamenetsky when visiting EY, suggested that Moschiach will come from R Auerbach’s yeshiva because they had their top shiurim in Ivrit instead of usual Yiddish. This psak should clarify the issue.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFollowMe,
I just googled, healthy food per person is $3K/year based on a family of 4. So, $30K for a family of 10.
healthcare say $1.5K/month =$20K
clothing $20K/year
transportation $6K /year
taxes $5K
could you add housing in your area?
seems like 100K is tight but close enough, presuming 2nd spouse is taking care of schooling and cooking.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantEven more seriously, Mod, and thanks for a good question – I do have more problems with people dishonoring Torah (in some aspects) comparing with people who do not know ho to read or count. We already established here that this is not my chiddush but a straight-forward Rambam who is using stronger words than me hat you would probably not allow here. That later poskim are lenient about it does not change the inner truth of this position.
September 12, 2023 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm in reply to: Haazinu – Ask Your Father He Wil Tell You #2225030Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE > Also, when one visits the sick takes away 1/60 of their pain or illness. How many people must come to take away all the illness
244 or 274
September 12, 2023 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm in reply to: Haazinu – Ask Your Father He Wil Tell You #2225032Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE > when I will be sixty and she will be thirty being now twice as old
in our days, AI algorithm in the shidduch system simply puts an appointment in the calendar for Sep 13, 2043 (because Sep 12 2043 is shabbat)
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDaMoshe,
when you have an opinion that mods think is not kosher (they went to the same schools everyone else did!) – you need to find an amorah to support it. Mods rarely censor amorahs.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDoctors told Netziv to take a vacation on beautiful serene Litvishe lakes (that look similar to Lakewood lakes, but with more trees). He could not take idleness though and ran away back to Volozhin after several days.
September 12, 2023 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm in reply to: The Rambam on the Linearity of Time, or Its Lack of Thereof. #2225035Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantNot bad for chatGPT, is this a new release?
September 12, 2023 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm in reply to: The Rambam on the Linearity of Time, or Its Lack of Thereof. #2225036Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantUsual explanation for Naase Adam in Bereshis is that Hashem is consulting melachim. Another one – that is consulting Adam and Hashem & Adam TOGETHER are participating in creating Adam (you might say Adam 1.0 creates Adam 1.1, then Adam 2.0…). This perfectly answers the question.
I would add – as our next iteration will be surely better than the current one, why not let a better man do the mitzva? One would say – why not other way around and let a better man learn? This has 2 easy answers:
1) learning will ensure next version is better
2) from the tzad of bein adam l’makom, we should let kallah have a better versionAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSeriously, Mod, I am not in a position to make a significant change in one person’s financial state, but I freely share any knowledge or job leads with anyone who needs it. It is generally person’s middos and attitudes that hold people behind, and I wish more Rabbis guided people like hat. I have a friend who complained about his low paying profession and asked me about direction he can take in computer programming. This was a pro-active conversation before he got married, I had hopes for him. He still complains that he has hard time paying tuition for the high school yeshiva. ..
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSact5, try to find a religious authority competent in these issues. get books by r Twersky, he writes about abuse and related topics.
One thing he says that if one spouse abuses children, and the other doesn’t protect them, then children might later have a grudge against the healthy person excusing the sick oneAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHe is the gadol, he knows all hidden things including yoga pants.
Surprised you askedSeptember 12, 2023 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2224980Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThanks. I got scared I misunderstood the maggid. The moshal you might use is the one about someone who has answers and not questions…
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAnd more to whether r Moshe is universally accepted:
I don’t think his psak counts in Israel;
Not that everyone respects every opinion r Moshe had.. he had respectful relationship with r Soloveitchik and I think, lubavitch Rebbe also, didn’t stop anyone from having different opinion .People feel free to disrespect r Moshe’s SIL, despite r Moshe doing the shidduch
I am not trying to question r Moshe’s stature, just trying to have a realistic picture of what statute is there in modern world
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYankel, I agree, but if a specific community doesn’t follow a posek respected by others, we can’t force them without Sanhedrin or even a city beis din… in my area, beis din consists of excellent talmidei chachamim, but they are slightly personally moderni, not in halochos, but in outlook. As far as I know, black hat community, of which rabonim are a part of, do not use this beis din …
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira> Chasidus, much like a mussar seder, is for 30 minutes to an hour
Maybe we shouldn’t mix these together? True they historically came in response to a perceived disconnect between traditional elite learning and every person’s need to deal modernity, the actual effect is through different pathways. The first approach has the dangers we are discussing here of being swept up by esoteric concepts skipping the basics, while mussar is grounding a person with work on his middos. The only danger here is like R Naftoli Amsterdam who was dressing like a shlepper disregarding his wife’s wishes
September 11, 2023 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2224757Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDennis Prager suggests that we can partner on practice with peo6who believe that M already came before. When M comes. We’ll figure it out, but we can work for common goals before that.
Maybe the same principle can apply here?September 11, 2023 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2224756Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantInterestingly, Torah is advocating a high stake experiment to determine a navi – be right or die. At the same time, as mentioned here, same moschihists had one opinion before Rebbe was niftar and another after. Al pi reb Karl popper, a theory is a statement that can be, in thought experiment, be proven wrong. A position that can be modified to be true for any possible event is not a theory. So, this approach seems to contradict the posuk
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantEasy to prove that this levush is unbecoming for an Yiddishe meidele; gematria of yoga is the same as goya!
September 11, 2023 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2224754Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> moshol of the Dubno Maggid about the fool who used to fire the arrow first and then draw the bullseye around
I read this moshal as an explanation of his great speaking abilities@ was I wrong?! Important to know as I am borrowed this trick!
September 11, 2023 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2224753Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAs r Zusya compared his piece of bread with a stone to Pharaoh’s, I feel how insignificant I am. If I were to establish a Yom tov for every time I was lectured by a Chabadnik who didn’t care for my opinion, I’ll be drunk the whole year!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCS, Calling books that are not from your Rebbe “outside” is unfortunate, despite all your best intentions. Maybe you need to davka learn them? The precedent is Beis Hillel that were accepted _because_ they would quote B Shammai before their own. And it goes without saying that they knew each other’s opinions as they were able to marry each other, warning of potential mamzerim that are by other opinions.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYankel, you mean YD 242:2? And then 244 says that a hoshuve rav is like your teacher. It seems to carve exceptions when not in front of him. Also, this chosid might not have felt that he is bound by R Moshe’s psakim, but rather by his chasidus, so then the logic of YD 244 does not apply.
See also Kesubos 85b for when Tuvia might or not include Rav Tuvia.
Again, I am with you in terms of being respectful to Rabonim one disagrees. I do not like especially when this happens b’davka, ie using multiple titles for rabbis from your side and mr or dr for those one disagrees with. But I don’t think occasionally omitting titles of well known Rabbis or those who have pen names is a bog deal. For example,we say Chofetz Chaim, not Rabbi Yisroel Kagan.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFollow > If you do the math, you so find that the difference after tuition breaks,
> strictly a math equation, not a conversation on whether it is better to live off of these benefitsFirst, how can you have one without another? How can you compare feelings of someone who supports his family and then learns at the time/koach he has with someone who knows that other people work had to pay for his amenities and what he learns contradicts how he lives?
2nd, from pragmatic prospective, you might discover actual price of things and make rational decisions. For example, you can choose a yeshiva based on the values they are teaching and not the breaks they give. You may figure out that the price of camp makes no sense, and send your kids to volunteer instead. You may find out that overpriced colleges make no sense when not get fin aid and send kids to places where training v cost makes sense. So, some difficult decisions but, hopefully, good lessons for kids.
Are you as stingy with money toward people who aren’t in learning but can’t make ends meet? Your last few posts got me wondering.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFollow, it is true that you lose various discounts on taxes and tuition at higher incomes, but you still get ahead. After Trump, we lost tax credits for children and this is most annoying when filling out taxes – as if we don’t deserve a break for the kids (at least a mental one). With schools, you don’t file pleading forms disclosing your taxes and vacations, but negotiate a discount directly. If you are used to business negotiations, you can survive that too.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantFollow, maybe you misunderstood the trend: there are more people going to college now, so obviously average level and benefit is lower. And yes a good plumber is better off than a history major. Still, a computer engineer is better off than a plumber… and many people, like me, do not have a talent for plumbing.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira > given more schar in shomayim for supporting their family than for excelling un Torah
I think I found one view on this question: someone remarked to r Salanter that if a certain student of his spent all his time on Gemora instead of mussar, he would be a world 🌎 famous talmid chacham.. Rav answered that if you have two challos, you use the one that is more beautiful, not the one that is larger.
Obviously, not everyone agrees, so this disagreement is bigger than a view on foodstamps, so worth arguingAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI have to admit that last parsha supports Aviras view, it says that Hashem will give us blessings so that we could sit and learn, while goyim are working for us. Well said.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYankel, we do say Hillel and Shammai, shem is greater than Rav… I think some people feel same way towards rav Moshe?also some people here omit rav in front of names they disagree with, please police them …
I also witnessed a Rav where he had to introduce himself and a reform clergy person. So, he said: HI, I am Yankel and she is Nancy…
PS what is sh’a say about capitalizing names ofAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDaMoshe, I don’t disagree but you are discussing what is called first world problems… I am saying that if someone is inspired to learn torah as much as possible, he should live on bread and water in a simple apartment, not even earning enough miles.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantA question what is more important: learn or have an ehrliche life is ridiculous. How often do you ask whether eating kosher or davening is more important?
Or maybe tell your wife that you are busy this month, so which out of 3 obligations she could drop?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, so a ” kollel” person who works at night is exactly the working model I am for. Just not take someone’s money that they didn’t offer you explicitly to support your learning
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCtl, I didn’t suggest taking food stamps, did I!?
Get some professional knowledge whether through college or self learning or friends, work 4 hours a week for $100. That is 21 k per year to live as a poor ehrlihe talmid chachamAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCtl, my suggestion was opposite: work 3 4 hours a WEEK, not a day, enough to support oneself and family at 19th century level, no government assistance has vesholom. If there is someone learning like that, I’ll consider contributing to him, bli neder and/or convince ctl to do the same.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantn0 > whole class that doesn’t wash,
Most Americans wash, FYI 🙂 But there are also opposite cases – people who were not enthusiastic in Jewish environment, then become more self-aware and assertive when in different environment
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantn0 > current economic set up does not accommodate working hard for your money.
A good point. We have a mitzva to be honest, etc. So, whatever the economic conditions are, we are to behave. You would not eat basar lavan because it s cheaper? so, you should not do bad work because it is more profitable.
I once heard a chasiddishe professional talking to college students. They opened up with “how do you keep kosher at work/keep shabbos/wear a hat/a beard” … He started with “the first thing you should know – you owe 8 hours of honest work daily to your employer”
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira > they’re not interested in remaining in learning even though they might have experienced some success in yeshiva.
When we discuss these issues, we sometimes look at the narrow swath of time – learning v. college. A better way is took at the “whole person”. I think it is Ner Isroel shitah that a college-educated person has a better environment for a life-long learning.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMarxist > For the pre-health jobs, PT/OT/speech don’t make the 200K like doctors, dentists etc.
but it achieves a respectable job that provides parnosa without getting involved in questionable business practices and daily davening devoted to tomorrow’s earnings.
> For computer science jobs, it depends but having a masters or Phd will make you so much more competitive in that field. Same thing with data analytics.
true. I have that, and it does open extra opportunities. But in software development and data analytics, one can get steady jobs even with less.
September 7, 2023 12:23 am at 12:23 am in reply to: Is there a Drug Problem in the “Frum World”? #2223550Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantread R Twersky, he dealt with drug & alcohol problems in the “frum” communities. He highly recommends AA.
September 7, 2023 12:23 am at 12:23 am in reply to: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!) #2223549Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> Gaon’s rhetoric caused the blood of Chassidim to flow like water.
I don’t know whether this was a forgery or not, but blood (on both sides) might be referring to attempts to appeal to Russian authorities who used such reports to clump down on both sides. Alter Rebbe was not whistling back, except lamenting of a “torture” of being released into a misnagdish home after being released from the prison.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYankelberl, thanks for the “Rav” suggestion. It would surely apply to first/last names like “Rav Avigdor Miller”, but not to pen names like “Chofetz Chaim”.
Chaim Volozhiner seems like an intermediate case, Volozhiner being sort of a nick name. I consulted reb Google, and it seems that appellation is more used than not, so your correction seem to be more correct than not. I also notice that he was also known as _Reb_ Chaim V… Maybe we can follow psak of R Gershon Kamenetsky who puts R for everyone and suggests to read it as Reb/Rav/Rebbe/Gaon Hatzaddik according to reader’s preferences.
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