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How was Avraham able to defend reshoyim of some? R Moshe says that he was interested in truth and ficing the wrings, and not focused on destroying the evildoers. I am not at the level to apply this to those who are trying to destroy us, but at least we need to apply this to each other.
Ability, a da Raba, schools and shuls should be giving discounts to those who are ready to protect the kehilla. Should count as part of chesed and written off as tzedokah. This is not farfetched: halachik thinking about serving in the tzahal includes an idea that even if one feels protected by his learning, there is a tzad of chesed to protect others.
Fanatic, I think that people tend to focus on someone who they often disagree with, and these are often their neighbors with whom they disagree on a particular point. We see it in Israel, among different Jewish groups in US, in politics… maybe this is what sinas hinam is about.
So, when someone focuses on the enemy, then enemy of my enemy is my friend… avoid falling into this psychological trap, don’t be a fanatic.
I think OH has vouchers, so that should have positive impact on school cost and, hopefully, quality.
While I agree with all caveats ^, we should value all the tools we have. Studious students were at risk of not having children as they could not go to the bathroom and miss part of the class. Chofetz Chaim write that we should thank Hashem for all conveniences, such as inventing trains that made travel fast & comfortable, kal vehomer tools that help learn Torah, from book printing to online search to YWN.
akuperma, what would have happened with those Yidden in the Jewish autonomy and the other Jews in Arab countries? You might argue that we should disregard their later hate of Jews as it was a response to zionists. Shoin. But simply look at how other minorities, and majorities also, are treated in the surrounding countries. At best, we could hope for a Jordan-type government, where only those Jews who create trouble would be killed. Or, we could have been under a government a la Saddam, Assads, ISIS … At best, most Jews would have left EY for now (like most christians did) and millions would have assimilated by now the way Jews in America did.
This does sound like a good shidduch. It is not late for him to start learning and for her to get off social media. Let her use CR instead. Show them this thread.
> fighting was done overseas
except many of us or our families were “overseas”.
While we see a lot of learning, we may be fooling ourselves. When we look at problem of pre-war communities, we see a lot of movement form religion. Nowadays, we might not see it – because some of those who moved away are not even associated with us … During the time of crisis like now, we see some of them – some coming to join, others, R’L – to oppose ..
look for a Yid who sold them the bridge location
R Salanter used to say that when someone is not paying attention while learning in Lita, it leads to a professor in Paris going OTD. So, it makes sense to look at quality of learning.
First, a simple question of measuring that quality. It was always an issue. During BM2, first attempt at public education was for fathers to teach and that did not have consistent quality (2nd to go to Yerushalaim had logistics problems), 3rd – to teach teenagers in regional centers did not work because teenagers did not listen [quality of teachers, I presume, as it was not an issue in Yerushalaim], what worked – teaching small kids locally, maybe not high quality but giving them information before they are capable of rebelling.
Som with early yeshivos – I presume Netziv was able to know and lead his 400 students. But in our days, with so many yeshivos, the standards are uneven and are known word-of-mouth among locals. We here inCR are sometimes shocked that some of us are bakiim in certain things and have
no idea of others. We need some sort of TSAT, Torah SAT with scores in different areas. It is OK to have 800 on tosfos, but 0 on chassidus. This score will accurately describe the student and the school, and then we can start thinking on what can be improved. The fact that we do not have such measurements tells something about the state of learning.> The government in medium to large cities in USA have abdicated their responsibility to enforce the law. Crime is through the roof.
to put it in prospective, crime in NYC is indeed rising for the last 3 years, but was mostly declining from 2000 to 2020.
murder was 673 in 2000, 292 in 2017, 488 in 2021, 438 in 2022.
robbery 33K 13K in 2018, 17K in 2022
grand larceny is the only one that exceeded 2000 – 49.6K in 2000, 51.5K in 2022Chaim, you seem to look at things from political point of view. This is currently a military situation, requiring experience and dedication. You seem to casually compare a prime minister with wealth of military and political experience at highest world level with someone who bio seems to consist of being a lawyer and a politician.
same for BY1212, you do not address all previous successes that Bibi had. Just think of current muted reaction by most moderate Arab countries – that are due to improved relationship under Bibi/Trump that Bibi worked on for a long time. I mention just the recent events, skipping things lioke post-Oslo that may have happened before your bat/r mitzva.
There are no easy solutions here. Hopefully Israelis (both IDF and politicians) find the right choice/ trade-off between a need to retaliate harshly and a danger of loss of lives and escalation… one thing people should avoid is pushing decision-makers into a public-opinion boxes in either direction. Hopefully, they make decisions based on sober analysis rather than emotional/political pressure.
For example, it is easy to say that harsh response will regenerate deterrence (at a tremendous cost). But, maybe, a limited operation showing destructive capabilities combined with stronger allied support, will also work? Would someone be pressured to go on offensive to placate supporters or silence opposition? Let’s think how to reduce this pressure.
> One cow in Palestine is worth more
I don’t think anyone disagrees that there were a lot of things wrong among the Zionists, as well as many non/anti-Zionists of the time (to include bundists, communists and all other isms and parties of the time). I presume if you lived during BM2, you would be against BM because of tzedukim there ..
Akin to cherems on Chasidim, we probably need to look at what is happening now, and also trace current ideas, both positive and negative, to the previous ones. The only difference between 2 issues is that more time passed after Besht than after R Kook, so it is hard to have a fresh look.
One ideological problem with 1920s yishuv was their insistence on agriculture and, related, land acquisition. Sochnut centralized all donor funds and directed to those ideological goals. As a result, there was less industry development (in tel Aviv area) and industry had capacity to provide livelihood. As a result, many non-ideological Yidden did not come before it was too late as there were no jobs available.
ujm > Now never mind how R. Teichtel decided he can judge the world and decide whether they deserve Moshiach or not;
thanks for extend quotes from the book as well as your commentary. I think you under-estimating impact of the tragic events that were happening at the time – you dismiss them as irrelevant to halakha. Instead, maybe give credit to someone who was responding to events in real time, whether he was always correct or not, in your opinion.
From what you quote, obviously, he is talking from the position of these events that Munkachever, and many others, did not fully foresee. For an example, when R Yochanan b Zakai establishes Yavne – is he contradicting his teachers who upheld Yerushalaim, just because of a little fact that Romans destroyed the latter? same here, he is trying to interpret his Rebbe in light of the events.
DaMoshe > somejew: for your second point, the two items aren’t mutually exclusive.
Indeed, Ramban to Gen 26:29 describes that Avimelech is fearful of Yitzhak because both Avraham and Yitzhak were rav koach with 300 armored men (hm, Eisav would have 400) and many allies – so doing both warfare and politics – in addition to limud and kiruv. And Ramban concludes with Maase avot asu banim – applying to Itzhak, but no doubt, we should also take that to heart.
I was not happy about people in our communities being insensitive to the suffering of others, but now when essentially the same war came to us, and same uav models bomb Ukrainians and Israelis, this attitude borders on insane.
Many Israeli politicians took such position based on real politik considerations and it was understandable, although looks mistaken at this point. But any other person who entertained the notion that we could look calmly at cruelty to others nearby, probably is reconsidering right now and the post ^ is an exception.
It seems that a Persian hackr broke into a esteemed poster’s account and besmerched our heimishe anti zionist with bad Russian spelling and geography.
This silly person probably doesn’t know between lviv and lembergSilly Sephardim listened to zionist propaganda instead of staying
in peace in Aleppo, Damascus, Tehran,funnybone, chochom lomed mikol adam?
and Kiddushin ~70 daf yomi talks about a cherem for someone who goes to another town and does not show verbal respect to the Rav therePS in my town, everyone came together in one shul to daven for refuah, shevuyim, chayalim, regardless of what they usually do intheir shul.
We here don’t fully appreciate what Israeli security apparatus is against. We are not often even aware about threats that were eliminated. Every army gets a share of political and bureaucratic leaders during prolonged peace time. As always happens, during a crisis, these really hapless officers will be quickly dismissed from inside.
Bibi lead country thru very difficult times often paired with a US administration that wasn’t helpful. He isn’t reflexive pro war person, as evident by his peace agreements when he had support from US administration. As to political distractions, his opponents are as guilty if not more, and if they call for political changes now, that is even more suspicious. I would trust more the opposition figures who joined the unity government.
Okok, I didn’t mean to attack blonde Jewish Americans.
Maybe someone in town can conduct an experiment Counting
blonde prevalence on two sides of the mechitza, with and without wigs. Ctl, bshaa tovaCtl, I could still be at the same count, if you are the senator’s younger brother. Explains also why jews went so blonde in US, especially women
sechel, you need to stop for a second and organize your education. You quote things left & right, but then before you never heard of major gedolim, now you never heard of major historical figures 100 years ago. So, you hope that you can convince people about what will happen with the world, while you don’t know what happened in that world in both physical and spiritual domains. I would even ask – if you care so much about Hashem’s ways – why not study what was already revealed in history before speculating about mysteries of the future.
I know of only one man in politics who recently used a wig to be in public. Most other men wear something on their head, with a minority not wearing anything at their jobs. If wigs were so coo, there would be more men using them.
whatever we are saying, Arab propaganda news is continuing with the story that (a) Israel bombed the hospital, (b) Israel is now lying about it “as usual” … at some point, their “news page” showed both articles with the above theory and a lesser version that Iron dome hit the incoming missile and parts fell on the hospital.
On the facts, the question is – what actually exploded? probably, explosives that were kept in/under the hospital
Pn propaganda, I am afraid but it may be very effective on arab population that will continue to be inflamed and outraged.
100 years ago, I think, hats were in vogue and sheitels were considered not tzanua.
Maybe you can talk to poskim and explain your arguments that they may not be fully aware of. If a posek agrees and his wife comes out in a hat, the issue should be solved.
the question is not only prevalence in a community, but also whether it is addressed properly. In general, insular community tend to keep things under the rug and sometimes preventing treatment and making family members suffer.
I recall posting a bunch of factual questions about r Kotler, r Moshe, r Feinstein, not sure whether internets, ate them or mods considered them too hard
Probably internets, mods would spare at least someConsider taking some time to learn your father’s minhagim… if you stop some of your chumros, he can afford to spend some time with you and fulfill the suggestion to teach kids between 17 and 22. At the same time you can get a pt job to pay for the seminary of your choice.