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For those who do not want Zionist military to be the source of the nissim, note that US also used several amti-missile weapons that were never deployed before and were also successful. So, you can attribute the nissim to general zechus of EY. You can ask the USS Carney personnel where exactly the missile was aiming to figure out whether it is zechus of a particular yeshiva, whether charedi or hesder.
Gadol, I am not playing the market. Trying to live off honest parnosa and average US small-cap growth. Why is it difficult to short?
A really missed opportunity was the moment it became 90% clear that DJT wins the election. The market went down, I think for several hours, and then way up and up. It was 100% clear to me what was happening – analysts in their hubris and personal bias did not bother to prepare a market scenario based on DJT win. So, in panic, they withdrew the money, spend a couple of hours analyzing DJT policies and invested accordingly. Unfortunately, it would take me same number of hours to learn how to find appropriate instruments to invest …
To make sure I am fair, people should also not call themselves modern, denying tremendous innovations that chasidim, chabad, yeshiva movement introduced in response to modernity.
Trying to be positive, but it is hard to read when someone uses, as they say now, “exclusionary language”. Maybe you should copyright “Torah world” to make sure it does not apply to others. Use Rabbi Yannai as your copyright attorney.
>> How is putting Tefilin on random people
Haleivi >> our generation is faced with a scenario that was not around previously. Lubavitch aren’t the only ones involved in Kiruv.
I agree that our generation, and several last generations, encountered, and continues, encountering, changes larger than in most other times and we need to figure out a response and it is a hard challenge Hashem is giving us. And we need to give credit where it is due – to those Chabadniks who terelessly stand ask “excuse me are you Jewish” and do a lot of less visible activity than putting a tefilin in the street. … and s indeed many others are now involved with ‘Kiruv”, Chabad started it way earlier, with higher intensity and never used this questionable word that assumes that you are closer to Hashem than the other guy just because you learnt a little more. And maybe some of the undeniable problems the movement has is a side effect of their outreach. As R Miller says: if you put your hand into a fire to save a child, it is the right thing to do, but expect your hand to have burns.
They also made themselves very visible, so everyone has a kashya on Tanya or on their minhagim. A lot of other movements are way more insular. We see that when their views get exposed and debated here, many other groups are also not able to easily defend their views.
Gadol, how much did you earn? Maybe between your and jackk new found wealth, you could make a donation for a bonus to mods and a better posting interface.
>> Gemorah says one of the reasons
Preposterous to quote chazal’s “one of the reasons”. R Eliezer said about some people that they should not be taught Gemora so that they do not use it for shtuyos.
> there’s just a fundamental difference in the chinuch you and i received,
Avira, I apologize for being nosy, but I understood from your self-descriptions that you were disappointed with Mod-O chinuch you received and switched to a different derech.
I also recommend against keeping your rice, and your dishes, and your chometz in the same closet. As the current owner of the chometz might come and munch on his hometz, you don’t want him to use your pots & pans and also drink your Sake. That is if you actually have actual chometz for Pesach to my disappointment in your lack of chinuch, I am finishing my bourbon as we speak, seriously.
Mdd, Ukraine has lots of great systems by now, just not enough of them for the territory it has. Maybe if Ukrainians abandon their villages and bunch all together in an area size of Israel, they’ll be able to protect themselves. But as it is, at least Israel (and partners) downing all these projectiles over the heads of Arab countries is the most economical way to get rid of them. If Parsiim would not send them towards ISrael, they’ll sell them to Russkies and get something even more dangerous in exchange. So, gam zu l’tova, however horrifying it is.
When R Grozdensky was asked in 1940 Vilna who should use Sugihara visas – older T’Ch who would be first targets of upcoming occupation or younger ones whose children will be taken to anti-religious schools, he suggested – older ones because (1) they’ll be more useful to American Jews (2) they’ll be in a better position to help politically to those who remain. He did not suggest to simply sit down and learn better.
Avira, what did chazal say are reasons for BM2 churban?!
CS, I thought you are in NYS, but not in NYC? I thought the subway does not extend under the Hudson like Hamas or Nork tunnels?
And if you are inside – pick yourself up from that island and move to the American continent. Most ppl in NYC already followed the Rambam that Chazon Ish liked to quote and left it for greener deserts. There are probably >100 mln people who arrived to NYC from the alter velt and only maybe 20% of those are still hanging around.
That article about R Kamenetsky does not have an exact citation and the article author is niftar, but here is maybe a related reference :
. Yaakov Kamenetsky (Emet le-Yaakov, Shemot 12:2) who explains several curious aspects of Second Temple religious life based on the notion that the Sages recognized that the purpose of Bayit Shenit was to strengthen themselves for the coming exile.jackk, mazal tov on your first million shorting DJT stock?
In Gulf War, there was an American army fully engage and they had to divert some of the valuable resources to search for scuds that had no military value given their lack of precision – just to make sure that Israel would not retaliate, possibly damaging Arab coalition. Interesting thing that seems to be happening now that some Arabs were actually helping to shoot down the Persian missiles.
I could not find what R Miller thought about Henry the VII, but I found he had some sympathy towards Putin-style traditionalism (possibly somewhat tongue-in-cheek). Tape 314, 1980:
When a society permits degenerates to parade in public it loses its rights. And in Russia you don’t have such displays of immorality like you have in America. And therefore there are many positive virtues in a society that maintains old-fashioned attitudes.
Now you’ll say that at least America is not atheistic like Russia is. But don’t forget there are plenty of atheists in this country and they’re the ones who are today running the public school system. The whole educational system is in the hands of atheists here. So what are they better than Russia? ….
In Russia work is a big virtue. When Russian boys come here, they may be ignorant of Yiddishkeit, but they’re not wild; they’re not corrupt. They’re decent citizens. All they need is Yiddishkeit but as people they’re to be desired. Desirable people come from Russia. You have to know that a Russian ordinary person, even a gentile and lehavdil surely the Jew, are fine people because they’re not allowed to run wild.
Of course we prefer liberty but who says that liberty has produced the best results? It has produced a San Francisco which is a haven for rodents, for reptiles. So what’s so good about America? All the liberty in America is being misused.
jackk, you are off in your numbers. By CDC, 375K deaths due to Covid in 2020 (Trump, before vaccine), 460K in 2021 (Biden, after vaccine, or maybe before Biden found it), 244K in 2022. I maybe repeating myself in vain, but it is not a Jewish thing to argue with the integrity of cable news hosts. It is an aveira to mislead, hide, misinterpret information in order to confuse your opponent. And, practically speaking, try speaking in your voice, we can really read quoted stuff from wherever you are copying it.
So, maybe ben hazmanim is an opportune time to demonstrate concern for Am Yisroel – bikur cholim, make sedorim in Gaza and Nevotim, help soldiers, work in places where someone is deployed, babysit kids in families whose fathers are in the army and mothers are working …
I am with Dr Pepper here. True, it is possible to argue that this happened because of that .. that T started exiting AFG, and that Putin just waited for the right winter, and that Hamas was preparing anyway … But the facts are simple that most bad people were quieter than usual during T’s time; that he materially supported the right groups and opposed the right ones; and the only real bad thing that happened during his time, Covid – is pretty to hard to pin on him (although possible). So, at minimum, the onus is on the other side to bring a coherent theory why B is a better leader and not pretend that the facts are so noisy that it is impossible to figure out. For me, a general theory of recent events is that US gov reactions are predictable and sane, making bad guys a chance to make plans to advance their agenda at minimal risk. For example, if Putin saw F-16s flying en masse (whether in Ukraine or Poland) and all his money arrested, and Tomahawks hitting near Russian bases in Syria BEFORE the invasion, he might have stopped.
Go outside, there is a zoo everywhere.
It is good to ponder alternatives, but most of us here do not have enough information to decide what is a best tactical move. We should daven that the decision makers stay sane and dedicated to their tasks, and also see that they get our support of all kinds,
CS, I drink coffee, but I did not ask why lubavitch is not wearing a shtreimel. My only question is why people care about what is on their head so much, and if they do – why do they start such modernishe ideas that our ancestors never wore.
jackk > R Miller > something rotten in Denmark
Please note that Rav was versed in Shakespeare. And I agree with all of the above that by taking R Miller in overall, one should not conclude that he was looking up to Russkies (probably Brezhnev or Khruschev at the time, not Putin).
The argument on juries is interesting. Rav highlights the negatives but there are, of course, positives that juries created in English history, creating some minimal standard when a king was not guaranteed to be always benevolent. Many of Henry’s wives would have preferred a jury of her peers to a mad husband’s will. The ultimate answer to goyishe system of law is not the document but the practice – are they achieving justice relative to alternatives.
> Every day innocent people are convicted
Are you, by chance, Common’s neighbour in Sdom?
this is what I was saying – there are lots of people who would be supporting people who supported OJ in his fight for justice. And, of course, if you stand by this position, there are lots of halachic ramifications about how to behave in such non-just country. I would be interested to hear how Rabonim in your country pasken regarding honesty, respect to laws, paying taxes, et al? Even in Sdom, you may have some limits on behaving like them. I recall Chofetz Chaim tearing up a stamp when he would send a letter with a traveler. Anyone knows whether this was in unfair Russia (presumably) or later in free Poland?
pekak, I just quoted Newtziv because I knew the story to illustrate his personal view of vacations. I don’t know how other roshei yeshivos spend their free time, never met one at a beach … I do understand that many people need time to recharge, and there are psakim to that, just trying to keep in mind what the ideal is.
As to high-intensity jobs, I think, many of such people, including myself, should consider reducing their hours and spending them learning themselves and with their family. It is very alluring to use your expertise on the job when you are a baki ( as Resh Lakish responded to R Yohanan’s comment about sword making – “I was called Rabbi there and I am called Rabbi here”), but Torah and education (and they personally) will probably benefit if people with proven thinking and organizational abilities contribute more. As R Twersky writes “none of the older patients ever said – I did not spend enough time in the office” and in another place – a kid suggest paying his father psychiatrist his hourly rate to spend time with the kid.
Mod, you touched on my biggest concern – that the current state of affairs confuses our values:
Various groups defend their derech by insisting that Torah and their derech is one and the same. This is not necessarily said by the leaders, but it becomes part of the group mentality. And then questioning the derech becomes associated with questioning the Torah. Something that Adam & Have got confused with the tree … In this case – surely, you can read in my post above that I am quoting Netziv’s personal view that it is impossible to go on vacation from learning. And surely I am quoting learning of others in many places. And maybe it is harder to see, but I can assure you that my concern about people approaching Torah with incorrect (in my view) values is out of concern for the Torah and Torah learning. In this case, I replied to you as you statement sounded like making fun of people engaged in mitzvos, as doctors surely are for working too hard. What is next – making fun of Satmar from spending time in the hospitals? (and I confirmed w/ a Lakewood rov that doctors who have right attitudes are indeed engaged in chesed, no less than those who are doing chesed without having a medical job).
common, YWN has no indication where someone lives. I did not know you were posting from Malchus of Sdom. I live in a country where there is some trust in the court system despite occasional glitches.
Mod > Lovely. Tell them they are in the wrong profession
Lovely. These are the same doctors who you call any time of the day when you need them, you can tell them directly.
Where is Torah asks for, or allows, vacations other than shabbos & yomim tovim?!
Doctors told Netziv to go on vacation to the lakes. He ran away from there back to yeshiva.
your lack of awareness of the value of learning is well known here. I would not have bothered responding had you said it.
we should have some humility. I know several Jews who were convicted of some crimes who would have not been convicted were the jury coming from “their peers”.
jackk, there is an idea floating around for NY and similar blue states to vote for some Kennedy guy. If he wins just one big state, he can throw elections to the House and have some negotiations happening. Or even if he get to 40% in polling data, he can demand concessions from either candidate. Now, his demands maybe even crazier than the other two guys, but at least here is an alternative direction.
How is it different from shabbos elevators and all corresponding halachos?
Gadol > The real insanity is how the Feds have slow-walked
you would not assume that they timed it on purpose?
Similarly, administration is timing new “student loan forgiveness” to be announced as close to election as possible, either hoping to start disbursing them right away, or at least make sure that regulations will not be overturned before the vote. I don’t like comparing one allegation to another, but this transparent vote buying using our money deserves their own court case for corruption. As one condemned thief told Melech Alexander – “if I were to steal more, I’ll be sitting with you rather than awaiting the guillotine!”
I guess for those who claim that learning is a substitute for fighting, it is a hard question … maybe either students can learn on their own, or go do food deliveries to the army during the break.
it is statistically improbable that one person will be prosecuted for multiple offenses in different years and decades – all in the 6 months before the election.
re: shtreimels – other than Xians forcing Jews to wear distinct clothes, what were previous (or non-Xian) cases where Jews would wear distinct clothes? Maybe more tzanua, but other than that? any specific cases? Sephardim? Amoraim?
RebE, you need to switch the channel on your internet. There are former djt advisors who support him. More importantly, he consciously had independent thinkers as his advisors who were not shy with their opinions. He, sometimes, listened to them. Current administration consists of yes men who have n practical experience and no independent standing.
RebE, by your logic, he will support you also if you vote for him.
I think this is a case of vadai v sfek sfeika. We know what is Biden’s foreign policy, and we also have a lot of concerns about what Trump could do, with similar concerns not materializing in his first term.
yankel> yazidi’s did not fare too well in the last few years
yes, at the time, I showed some friends from Aleppo pictures of whole Yazidi population escaping up the mountain and then to Syria, with view of fully functional villages, occasional animals, but no people, and then abandoned cars on the slope up the mountain (they would run out of gas and then continue walking) – “this could have been you” … and, similarly, Russian bombardment of Aleppo to force opposition to leave.
Dr Pepper > not keep too much cash on hand
Dr Pepper & Pres Trump should review the daf… BM 42 suggests keeping 1/3 in real estate, 1/3 in stock, and 1/3 in cash. With DJT stock, DJT improved from his bias in RE, but it is hard to have cash as there is always someone who wants to take it away … It is also suggested not to flaunt it and even not to count it yourself to have a brocha … Stock market unexpected jumops can be seen as this sort of brocha, when it is a hidden miracle.
yankel > . Who said yehudim would have fared any better
but, of course, this is hindsight. At that moment, it was not clear what will follow. Similar to WW2 that many expected to go similar to WW1 …
So, we should not be looking down at the arguments that were made historically, but we should revisit them when new information becomes available instead of continuing repeating arguments that sounded good at the time…
When R Steinsaltz was asked about the reasonas behind Shoah (in the context of his lecture about Churban and other historical events in Gemorah), he responded that 50 years is too early to make a judgment, gemora took more time to make conclusions about the Churban.
We need some definition of pesayim. It seems t be used as “I am such a baki in gemora that I do not have time to learn about health”. Do I misunderstand?
I would define it as a non-intellectual and disorganized person for whom it is a tzaar to read, and to follow, health recommendations. Anyone who has a sharp mind and a learning seder should be able to do the healthy stuff too. If he does not, he is not a talmid of Rambam or Shmuel …
We talked before of R Kamenetsky who tried to rely on shomer pesayim on smoking (in 1950s?), but immediately changed his mind when toild that it might affect his memory and, thus, learning. FWIW, current Alzheimer research says that there are no effective late interventions so far, but healthy behaviors (exercise, food) in 40s and earlier, as well as challenging your mind, have effect.
PS this is written in the healthy spirit of “do as I say, not as I do”
Little Froggie, it will give a line segment across the eclipse path. If you also say what percentage of the sun was eclipsed, it will limit us to either 2 points on 2 sides of the path, or to a segment within the totality area.
RebE > chapters in the Torah
As someone quipped: if they would know in Bnei Brak who came up with chapters, they would not use them.
I understand that both of them heard the other side (that was not CR!), but BH would present the other position first, showing that they respect them and also avoiding the bias. We can see here how often people bring arguments solely supporting their own side, leaving it to the opponent to present theirs. This is a sign of how assimilated we are: such approach is common in American/Western “free speech” debate, but not the best in Jewish tradition. This is also alluded in the gemora that compares talmidei chachamim of Bavel with roosters and others – meaning people who learned how to argue but not how to strive for emes.
Avira > Zionists caused the Arab threat
Others objected that this is relevant, but I am questioning this logic. I asked several times before, and I don’t think I got an answer. We now know the pattern of Arab behavior over decades – Saddam, war between Iraq/Iran, Syrian dictators murdering their own citizens, ISIS, Yemen, etc. This is how they treat other groups. Are you saying that heilike Yerushalmis and Aleppis would survive all of that by paying bakshish to Assads and keeping dhimmi status with ISIS? Did Zionim cause all of these tzoros on the whole Middle East?
Avira > Zionists caused the Arab threat
Others objected that this is relevant, but I am questioning this logic. I asked several times before, and I don’t think I got an answer. We now know the pattern of Arab behavior over decades – Saddam, war between Iraq/Iran, Syrian dictators murdering their own citizens, ISIS, Yemen, etc. This is how they treat other groups. Are you saying that heilike Yerushalmis and Aleppis would survive all of that by paying bakshish to Assads and keeping dhimmi status with ISIS? Did Zionim cause all of these tzoros on the whole Middle East?
Jackk. To make sure you are not wasting ours (and your own) time, please put your money where your mouth is. Tell us how many options against DJT you bought and then continue reporting. I’ll be happy to know that either DJT or you are earning some cash.
Avira, there are many cases in gemora when amoraim recommended or not certain foods, that were not necessarily obvious. I am not bringing examples because I presume you would agree. That means that it is not a mayla to rely on ignorance when one can learn better.
Smoking probably was not a noticeable problem before public health and antibiotics. Before that, people were dying from bacteria and, in cities, from spoiled milk. Smoking was considered healthy from 1500s to 1850s and tobacco has actual effects in attention enhancement (nicotine itself) and some anti microbial and anti fungal substances.
I am thinking that eclipse is there to arose our curiosity (as cheruvim symbolize) and interest in creation.
First, the existence of eclipse is not remarkable. Any planet having satellites would have those satellites crossing paths with the sun, unless those moons were close to 90 degree orbit. But having just one moon (the only planet in solar system) and moon and sun visibly similar size is really remarkable making solar eclipse so spectacular. Looking at a little moon crossing the sun from Jupiter is not really a big deal.
So, when people observe sun and moon separate, you only see a 2-D picture, you don’t think about the distance much. But when you figure out that moon crosses in front of the sun, then you start thinking about 3-D. In fact, several Greeks (Aristarchus and Hipparchus, for example) used solar and lunar eclipses in their attempted computations of distances to moon and sun. They got formulas right, but not always exact distances. It is sadly-remarkable that their work seem to be rejected by later “mainstream” Greek academics, instead of correcting their measurement errors. Solar eclipse was also used 100 years ago to confirm Einstein’s relativity theory.
keith > Eating steak is not bad for you.
this might be true, but loshon gemora is usually closer to square root. Chochomim recommend and not recommend certain foods for certain aspects and usually do not say – eat the bad ones just a little.