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>> Since when is it our responsibility as Jews to solve world problems?
Since Avraham opened his hotel?
Main reason for improved childhood survival is due to vaccinations and improvement of public health, such as milk Pasteurization lead in US by Mr Nathan Strauss from Lakewood 100+ years ago. (this partially reversed problems created by industrialization). Also, science advances primarily by another German Jew – Fritz Haber, who got Nobel for saving billions of people from starvation and allowed billions to be born but was written off history for also developing poison gas that killed thousands. Thanks to these scientists and public health experts, we had unprecedented growth of humanity in last 250 years …
another aspect of current changes – it used to be that rich, educated, and successful people had larger families, and less well-to-do did not. Most of us are probably coming from those rich people. Now, richer and educated people have less children, and less educated are moving into depopulated countries. It is an open question what will happen going forward with this …
There is a tension here. If you expect your kid never to have contact with the general community, never plans to vote, never will stumble in a pandemic where he needs to understand the health direction – then he does not need to listen to anything political. Otherwise, there is a danger that he will be caught into some modern avoda zarah the way previous generation of Jewish kids were enticed by communism, etc. You may want to introduce him to politics with some background and your own views that help him develop a thoughtful approach.
One way: you start discussing political position connecting them with Jewish values on what is truth, hesed, respect for other people. etc.
A way for older kids: watch or listen together with him, discussing and commenting. better to listen to something that has opposite views. I tried radio debate between Obama and Romney. Kids did not like that Obama promised to hire 100,000 math teachers… With later debates, I chose video as faces showed more than words. Anyway, it is more important to teach the kid values of honesty and reasoning than simply convince him to despise a certain position that you hate. The latter would not give you a long-term vaccination effect.
n0 >> would have the the audacity to try translating that [Reb Chaim] for the masses
You don’t need to start big, translating great works in full. How about giving us a sample? translate one idea.
What if we would not translate Rambam and require reading him in the original?
>> The Biden diplomacy was through the allies to both sides behind the scene
I still stand by my evaluation: Biden’s team is very focused on how they look politically. Within hours of ceasefire, there are well-sourced articles describing in detail how smoothly they worked behind the scenes, even how they were much better than Kerrey and Hillary during similar fighting. This means that these people had enough time during the crisis to work with journalists developing the story.
This does not mean that they did something wrong, but it also does not mean that you need to believe the press releases.
did they try opening a (kosher) lemonade stand? or tutor kids? or at least buy a lottery ticket?
>> I suspect that Biden is allowing the economy to move slower, as he knows he will not be graded on the economy for at least another year.
that is possible, and sad. I brought a couple of cases earlier where it seems to be Biden’s habit of worrying about how he looks first. He would not knowingly do a bad thing to look better, but he would weight his political fate heavily.
> Trump gets credit for starting the ball rolling right away. And for clearing away the bureaucratic obstacles. After that, he let things play out. Always claiming that vaccines would be ready, before they actually were.
So, he did everything right and tried to get some credit for it. After we figure out which Chinese Lab released the virus, we need to find out who prevented releasing Phase 3 results before election even as the pre-declared number of cases was achieved.
> But he [Biden] at least realized that all the people who Trump failed, would come to to his side. And that was about the only thing he said for five months.
Again, I agree with Biden’s political skills. Note that it does not translate to any actual results: he did not direct states to do COVID better, he did not make shipments “more predictable”, he had just one unexpected snug with the vaccine – J&J Baltimore factory – and it is still unresolved and nobody talks about it. All hat, no cattle.
>> Yeshiva Bachurim have never tried to find creative and ethically questionable ways to make money
Oxymoron. Maybe we need Rabban Gamliel back in charge of places of learning.
DY >wait long enough and, sure, the masks will not be needed
> They were never needed for the vaccinated.As far as we understand now (and with less understanding before) – vaccine reduces risks by a factor of 10 to 20. If you are in an area with high prevalence of COVID and you do not take other measures esp. prolonged contact without ventilation, your risk is high, and mask and SD would help. So, do not plan a visit to Indian ashram just yet.
As I mentioned above, it seems that antibody tests will soon be used to indicate whether you have even higher (or lower) level of vaccine protection, i.e. instead of having 200 mln people with 95% protection, we will be divided into 180 mln with 99+% and 20 mln with maybe 50% protection.
>> Acquiring the skill of giving without taking,
how do you acquire these skills, specifically?
n0> America of the eighties gets no credit for the fall of communism.
“whom do you believe – me or your lying eyes”? maybe you did not live thru those times or forgot already. Public opinion at a time did not yet make a decision which country is better. Here is from Reagan’s 1983 evil empire speech:Whittaker Chambers.. said, for Marxism-Leninism is actually the second-oldest faith, first proclaimed in the Garden of Eden with the words of temptation, “Ye shall be as gods.”..
I believe we shall rise to the challenge. I believe that communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last–last pages even now are being written. I believe this because the source of our strength in the quest for human freedom is not material, but spiritual. And because it knows no limitation, it must terrify and ultimately triumph over those who would enslave their fellow man. For in the words of Isaiah: “He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no…might He increased strength. But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary.
now CDC has a preliminary answer to a question I was curious about: can you use antibody test to see whether vaccine worked for you. Their answer seems to be similar to their original position that we need no masks – No, because we did not certify tests to measure vaccine effectiveness; not all tests measure vaccine effect; and that tests are not perfect and you may make a mistake thinking that you are too protected or that you are not … This seems to me to mean – YES, it gives yu meaningful info, just need to make sure antibody test is the right one (that includes the part of the virus that vaccine used) and that you don’t over-rely on the result. So, a guess, if someone would get 3 times a negative antibody test, he should continue masking, and someone who gets a couple of positive tests can be more than 95% assured that he is immune. So, we should be able to separate between those who did or did not get immune.
[this is not a medical advice, just statistical analysis]>> Even according the CDC the vaccinated don’t need to mask and Fauci was just making up excuses.
This is a new twist on “even a broken clock is right twice a day” – wait long enough and, sure, the masks will not be needed and an am haaretz would retroactively become a hasid.
Note that the position “vaccinated do not need mask” depends on prevalence of virus in population. when it is higher, vaccinated do need masks, when it is lower, they may not. Exact boundary may be a machloket, of course.
most optimistic headline I saw was “dozens demonstrate against Israel in Dubai”. I know you can’t expect “millions” out of 3 mln of Dubai residents, but “dozens” sounds like a very healthy number. There are more members of Congress against Israel than in Dubai.
A legacy of Regan’s times is that 0.5 bln less people live under communism. You can argue that he did not cause all of it, but you can not deny that this was both his pledge and policy, and, correspondingly, legacy. This includes 2 mln Jews and decrease of support to all Arab dictatorships supported by USSR.
Economically, USA GDP per capita was growing 1-2% better in 1983-89 than world and major European countries (Germany, France), except UK from 1985 – that pursued same policies as Reagan.
for comparison, US did about same as UK/Germany/France in the 90s
n0 > That the most advanced and wealthiest country had to wait for a vaccine, is ludicrous.
I am blaming Amazon for the culture of asking for everything being solved in 1 day. you need to be realistic and have some savlanut. Open up ourworldindata and compare all covid stats between US and other developed countries. Not counting remote islands and continents, US did just below average on cases [same as Sweden and Israel, 30 to 100% over France, UK, Italy, Germany] and mortality (same as Italy, UK, France, Sweden, 2x over Germany, Israel, Canada) and 3rd best in vaccinations (after Israel and UK). Better comparisons would take into account age distributions and geography.
On vaccines, everyone was on edge for Phase 3 approval process (about half of serious vaccines passed it, so it was not a done deal), but in reality the bottleneck was in setting up production for all required parts. Here we have 2 mRNA vaccines setting up production on at least 2 continents, and J&J doing OK in Europe and B- in US. This is pretty successful. In vaccination speed, US was behind Israel but at exactly same rate as UK and 2x ahead of all other developed countries.
Jews will soon be again called “the people of the Book” – when all humanity moving online, Jews will still need books for Shabbos. We have an encyclopedia that is used on Shabbos only. Without Shabbos, the kids would probably not know the order of ABC as it is an only application.
ywnjudy,
I agree that risk is relative to perception in the society. This generation is much more sensitive to risk than previous ones, just because we reduced a lot of risks. At the time, when you could have been attacked by bandits, arrested by Romans or Soviets, etc, you might have disregarded some of the risks we are sensitive to. On the other hand, Gemora gets into long discussions about quote esoteric rirsk, like drinking cups in pairs, bring an example of a guy who lost count after 10+ cups, ended up drinking pairs, and gave an opportunity to his hating ex-wife to affect his mazal, so that he died after leaving the pub. As close as you can get to “do not drink and drive”.So, if someone habitually was doing dangerous things at heights in explicit violation of a biblical commandment “build a fence over your roof”, not sure how simple those people you describe had to be…
Some sources on lashon hara distinguish between people who violate a well-known mitzvot, say kashrut, about whom you can presume they violate others also, and people who mistakenly things something is not an important mitzva (say, onaas devarim). you can’t presume that they would violate other mitzvos, only these ones.
PS the core question is – where is the rov during the mussaf, aka kiddush setup. Not just “rov” as in “hakham”, but the majority? if only a few people set up kiddush, then the rest are true tzaddikim that are resisting the temptation, (daf yomi warning) – as Ovadia who lived amonf 2 reshayim.
R Eliezer Silber talked with a Nazi camp survivor who said that he stopped being observant when he saw a religious Jew who had a siddur, who would charge daily meal ration to let others use the siddur. R Silber replied that did you think about all the other people who would give their last food to daven with that siddur?
>> He is not a Jewish representative.
Once a smart & liberal Jewish rep was giving a talk in front of Jewish audience. I asked him – if he represents the Jewish values, why it is not reflected in his votes. He did not evade the question and answered honesty: I do not represent Jewish values, I represent value of the Jews [who are my voters].
this seems like the most inane discussion what kind of anti-semites are more dangerous …
In Weimar republic, some people would vote for Nazis to fight Commies, and others will vote for Commies to fight Nazis. They ended up with 15 years of Nazis and 45 years of Commies
Or a documented tragic moment in September 1939 where two trains with Jewish refugees crossing the path between German and Soviet occupied zones, both shouting to the other – idiots, where are you going?!
let me rephrase the question to see the half-full side:
I go to a shul where they do not start drinking until mussaf is over! and they do not even do it in the shul itself.An added bonus: if they were doing this the whole year, you may not need a vaccine, you already probably had a booster also.
we need an update on what happened with the chevrusa and the cheesecake!!
Avi K>> This is a hallowed Jewish tradition.
R Berel Wein writes that if there are 100 Jews in a city, Hashem wants to have one shul with 100 people. Jews make 10 shuls with 10 people. Then, as you suggest, we end up with 11 shuls with 9 people. now, R Wein is a Litvish historian, if you can say that, so Hasidim might disagree.
As I understand the halakha, if people truly cannot stand each other, then they should form different shuls.
Daas, it seems that CDC is simply reviewing science papers, without delving into social science – how the proposed policy will be implemented – while Biden is delegating to scientists to the degree that he is unaware of what CDC is going to say (documented in liberal sources). Similar thing is happening with extra unemployment insurance. First it was obviously not causing extra unemployment, now Democratic governors switching it off.
>> thus it’s currently inadvisable to be “somech al ha’neis” anymore.
I understand your sentiment re:miracles in Israel, and I hate to contradict with cold numbers: for example, if you look at deaths at auto accidents in Israel – they were way higher than all developed countries (500 per mln vehicles in 1970 v. 300 in France and 100-200 in other countries). Now it is 100 v 50 to 100 in most countries. So, those kids running without railings were growing into adults who drove the same way … maybe there is a benign explanation that at the time less people had vehicles and they were from a more reckless category.
there is also something eery with end of covid in Israel – before anywhere else, was immediately followed by Meron and then Hamas …
Still your statement above presumes that we are to rely on miracles which sounds like contradicting conclusion of the Gemora in Shabbos 32 which discusses exactly the case – people are tested when they are crossing bridges, and ends with R’ Yannai’s advice to check the boat before going in rather than rely on contradictory ideas from Rav and Shmuel to not have or have a gentile in your boat. Maybe someone can explain better how these different ways of dealing with risk relate to each other
jackk: A poor person, and a wealthy person, and a wicked person
A clarification there on a wealthy person. It really talks about a person who inherited his wealth from his businessman father. So, he does not really have much yetzer hara for being busy with the business!
His father loved building up the business, but seemingly he is not discussed and is not the one expected to have a problem with learning. Either he is an active person in general and will learn with the same zeal as he is working, or maybe his building up a successful business counts as tzedokah.
Now, his son does not need to build anything, everything works without even workers knowing who he is, his yetzer hara is simply to enjoy the wealth, he may even be depressed that he can’t be as great as his father, and the example illustrates that he needs to dedicate his status to learning (and maybe this way making his father’s business even more meaningful).
>> , I don’t feel threatened at all for being a Jew.
In truth, we need to be humble. first, for sure Jews are being noticed in general. I had people coming up to me with interest in various low-Jew-density areas – a Mexican proudly telling me that he knew Jews in Mexico and is happy to see me; a Mississippian – how excited she is to see Jewiiish person. So, if someone does not like us, he would notice also. And seeing prominent members of Senate and Congress condemning Israel is disturbing to see, so you never know what can happen ….
You can usually put filters into your email system that will allow email addresses or certain words to avoid spam.
The ultimate question is whether you can train the spam system from the moderator decisions …
If there were a control board for Yiddish – there would be no Yiddish, just German!
> government bureaucrats decree
So far, most of public health decisions are taken by elected officials, mostly governors and mayors.
CDC, FDA may slow down or speed up vaccine and drug approvals, and they may influence decision makers, but they are only providing recommendations. At least, if you happen to live in US.I am not sure there was much of informing going on. I think most people just walked around the maskless. Maybe reporting yungeleit to Roshei Yeshiva or Kollel (in places where the latter cared).
I did not hear about people calling police on unmasked minyanim. Was it happeningI am also not sure what’s the deal with refusing kibud to those who davened outside. Again, outside of my experience. What exactly is the accusation? separating from the tzibur? making the others feel guilty? following hukat goyim?
In the name of equity, the wait time in days will be equal to your income divided by 1000; squared if you have no tan.
n0 > Still no shaychus.
So, I give you a specific example and you just switch to another thing that you did not like. This is how biases work. You formed an opinion some time ago and now reject anything that contradicts it.
A lot of opinions, by the way, were formed based on very fragmented and random information early in the crisis. You need to go back and verify with numbers. One thing that I find amazing that most developed countries and most states in US have approximately the same case and death rates. US is not worse than Europe here. Many ideas – that cities are worse than rural, that Sweden found a great strategy, do not seem to bear at the end.
n0, you are right, listut, not gezela. seems to come from Greek “robber”, as in Rashi on Ber 1:1 – taking something openly by force, as an organized group.
Yevamot 25b mentions first gazlanim are believed for edut to allow a woman remarry and then brings as a proof a baraita about listim. The argument seems to be that gazlanim/listim are not the same as murderers. Listim seem to be more armed/violent/maybe being an organized group. So, I did not quote correctly, but I think the point stands, even amplifies – not teaching a trade is “as if” making an organized armed robber. Maybe because they will all band together and insist on their right to take something.
I don’t think we disagree on greatness of full-time learning. It is a question, practically speaking, which part is holy and which part is getting a free ride, but this is a case with any holiness – it creates a danger (Nadav, Avihu) or one can claim, the holy part is so important that it is ok to have the side effects. I believe someone argued during the growth of yeshivot, that we need to teach 1,000 people to make sure we have one Gaon coming out and 900 people who made their life hard is the price to pay. And this may have been justified at a time. In normal circumstances, many tried to follow R Shimon (learn without work) and failed, and many followed Rabbanim (learn and work) and succeeded. I don’t remember the page for it, but I don’t think it was declared void.
it is a good question about using public funds. I think we first need to separate halakha and hasidut.
I am arguing for the latter standard, as we are discussing people trying to be Talmidei Chachamim, not just play one on TV. Example of Rebbe’s student in Bava Basra who refused to take money on account of his learning seems to be hasidut…re:beaches. I think we need to look at what the funds are appropriated for. Going to a beach is fine, but building a house there probably not. Is it ok, for example, to use a bathroom in a store on a highway? I asked several people and everyone would, as hasidut, think whether it is maris ayn that they are entering the non-kosher store. Rarely that someone suggests, as R Yaakov Kamentesky does, that you should buy something in the store, as the free bathroom is intended to attract customers.
Jerseycare is a need-based program for people who do not earn much. It is charity. It sounds like moral hazard is at work here – people who could get low-paying jobs (“young working families”) are worse off than those who earn below Jerseycare threshold. People who take it because it is financially beneficial for them to work less are, indeed, listim, and not gazlanim, again, thanks for correction: a group of people whose votes induce politicians to take money from others by force.
> touched by modernity is relative.
All people got too excited by modernity. Changes in last several hundred years never happened before, maybe mabul excepting … German Jews in 19th century were trying to educate Poliosh/Russian Jews and get them out of poverty, but, at the time, this was highly correlated with assimilation. Are things different now? Studying computer science does not seem to require signing up for some foreign ideas. At the same time, every second English and History class in public schools and universities has some political context in it thrown at kids, even while explaining where to put commas. Online school is good for that – when I hear norishkeit, I use it as an opportunity to rebut it, jointly with kids. Seems to be working like a vaccine. It is a dangerous live vaccine though. I wonder if there is mRNA liberalism produced anywhere.
coffee > We don’t have to pay a hurricane
yes, but we also need to learn lessons and pay to rebuild to the same guy who built the shacks that fell down. After one earthquake in Turkey, rioters were killing building contractors who were building supposedly earthquake-safe houses and stealing cement along the way.
n0> No Shaychus.?
maybe I did not explain it well. Trump was trying to jump-start multiple well-funded efforts. Germans did not let Curevac in, but then took months to fund it fully. As a result, other mRNA efforts were done faster. This is just one data point, of course, but it is as close as you can come to a controlled experiment in polirics. Two German companies – both wanted to work with US and asked for large funding. One was and one was not allowed by events mostly out of their control.
Now, looking this way, it may be that Trump’s intervention was not helpful. Biontech went directly to Pfizer and was successful. It may be that Biontech Turks are smart from history of dealing with repressive governments, while Trump and an American heading Curevac just tried to bully through “doing the right thing” and it backfired. American direct approach worked for Moderna, because it operated fully within the same cultural framework.
n0> he had an unusually high awareness of God
Ok, maybe, I did not follow him closely when he was a Senator except when he got into news …
Still, if you listen to another religious almost-VP, Joe Lieberman, yes, he sometimes uses his morality for somewhat political purposes, like defending Bill Clinton, he is generally decent in his speeches. I can’t see him insisting that previous President left him no vaccines. Joe L was positive on Biden, btw. I would say, he has religious core that gets overpowered by political yetzer and probably habit of so many years. Can hope that in critical moments, he might revert to the core values. See again the story with the journalist in Iraq – he accepted the argument.interesting – check with people running learnign websites whether they get more visitors by day of the week and holidays. Frankly, with WFH, there is no excuse to have same amount of learning and work all days of the work week. I am organizing kids to use Sunday, legal holidays and vacations as “catch up time”, questioning what religion they belong to when they attempt to fully “take off” yom rishon – while providing plenty of non-learning time on other days.
Thanks Biden for soon resolving the gas shortage, for sending us our money, for pre-paying to solve all urgent problems of the 22nd century, and for the wonderful weather forecast next week.
When we do these future-looking things, we just need to be humble – can we predict what is going to happen? and if not, are we sure we are solving the right problems?
Read old papers and see what they thought about the future. Say, check these:
1913: anyone worrying about great war possibly coming?
1988: anyone discussing how will West and East Germany be able to unite?
1995: anyone predicting how Internet will be used 20 years later?
2019: anyone worrying how they are going to walk in masks?Syag, “someone else’s expense” (aka OPM, other people’s money) means in this case accepting non-Jewish government, or even Jewish, charity funds designated for poor. Accepting community funds for learning, teaching, being a Rabbi is less problematic.
Many people avoided taking. Chafetz Chaim, for example, had a store and sold his own books, personally verifying that printing is correct and travelling to sell them. When and if accepting OPM, feeling responsibility of that.
Now, you can do proper heshbonos and take money responsibly, of course. And I do not doubt that many in Kollel do. R Salanter did not hold by pas isroel when travelling to a resort to restore his health, because someone donated him funds to eat healthy, not keep his humros. As R Dessler explains, world most fundamental difference is between givers and takers. But, you can give as a taker (grudgingly), and you can take as a giver, with appreciation, responsibly, etc.
So, when Meir is suggesting that $1800 for a poor person is not much as it barely sends one kid away, you can see that he is not taking all scholarship about the issue seriously. The irony of dedicating yourself to learning while disregarding the percepts you are learning is breathtaking.
When such a kid learns a gemora that father is obligated to teach a child a craft so that he will not become a gazlan – does he ask a father? what is the tirutz? genuine question – did anyone’s kid ask that?
RebE, coffee – I think they are both right. b’ Hillel had more integrity in their learning (quoting others first) and, therefore, they became a majority as it was clear to the students that they are not being sold a biased view. Like when some media or posters say something that does not smell right, you either dismiss them, or go double-check and find out the facts that they were trying to avoid…
you can even say – if you stopped by B’ hillel and learned both opinions, presented with integrity, why bother and shlep to b’ Shammai to hear the opinio you already heard? you would do it a couple of times to double-check, but after you confirm that B’ Hillel transmits b’ Shammai correctly, you can as well sit in b’ Hillel and get two classes for the price of one.
interestingly, US does not seem to have a lot of seriously religious Presidents despite having more religious population than other Western countries. I mean not just those who profess something, or visit houses of worship, but those whose thinking is seriously motivated by religious sentiment?
Bush II, Carter .. others before my time … do we need to go before Progressives to find fasting and Thanksgiving declarations?! And, according to research opinions, those 2 were not the most successful ones.
> 12 year olds
a good question. May depend on the probability of getting COVID, as probably controlled vaccine is always better than uncontrolled virus – Or, if you wish, made in USA v. made in China …
So, if a kid will be at school and camp, and interact a lot, then the chance of COVID over time is pretty high, and I don’t see why not have it. If there will be less interaction during summer, maybe wait a month or two for possible problems to be worked out. I am not sure also why there are no (reported) trials on smaller doses for younger ages. Maybe gov guys do not want “confusion” in people’s minds – just give everyone the same.interesting .. lets look at pshat of your drash:
mt Tabor is 588 metres (194 for Americans 🙂
then Har Sinai should be 36m high…Now, if you take 1/64th of Everest gives you 553 m, still does not match Jabal Musa that might be Mt Sinai (2285m)… BUT J Musa prominence (height from the bottom, not from the sea) is 334 meters… Of course, Mishna was not talking to Chinese, so maybe they meant the highest (in prominence) mountain in the general Middle East/Europe/North-East Africa area – Either Damavand or Kilimanjaro or Elbrus or Dashen or Mt Blanc: 1/16th of all of them is between 250 to 370 meters –
exactly Jabal Musa!of course, it could be that Jabal Musa is not Har Sinai …
n0, I wholeheartedly agree. It is still an open question whether we can survive with best education while in full contact with the rest of the world. Some communities bet yes, some bet no. I don’t know.
I hope we can … but always chose a safer alternative for my kids.Note on Sephardim – Arab countries were not touched by modernity. That is different. When Sephardim were in Sefarad proper, they was assimilation even before modernity. Jews in Russia did not assimilate when they were sent forcibly to the army, but did when offered attractive alternatives … so, environment matters … R Shach writes that if Arabs welcomed early Zionists, they would have all went to Cairo University and intermarried. Something to take in mind re: current events.
> Chazal tell us, that wealth and poverty do not come from the craft. If you need a page number to work up your appetite for your streimel
let me help you: Kiddushin ~30 – teach you kid a craft so that he will not become a gazlan.
> There really is no better option for States like NY and NJ to give health insurance to all those that do not have any insurance. It is basically subsidizing their healthcare system.
I had a question – why gazlan, and not genivah? Thanks for the illustration. Gemora knew better – gazlanut, you openly explain that it is “good for others” to give you money …
I have no idea how families in Lakewood are worse off than families anywhere else in the world, except by choice. Insurances, vacations, school are all part of human condition … please point me to the Gemorah that suggests going asking a Poretz to help out. Oh, found you one – “make your Sbabbat hol, but do not ask for (Jewish!) charity”. Maybe the Tanna did not know how difficult Lakewood life is, he lived much more comfortable, he had a rich father-in-law!
Syag > You display a lack of understanding of the value of staying in learning
close! let me fix it for you:
I display a lack of understanding of the value of staying in learning at someone else’s expense.
So do some Tannaim. Back to my class. To paraphrase, “some of my friends are in kollel”.AAQ >> “the only group I am not fond of are those who insist that their group is always right”
syag> Well that’s an odd thing to say considering you have been the forerunner in that department.excellent hit! I do not have a group, though. You may feel that I belong to some group that you do not like, because I question your position. I question their position also.
I listened on the radio with kids Obama-Romney debate and discussed it afterwards, and they had no idea whom I am going to be voting for. Vote me as the moderator of the next Biden-Trump debate.