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TryingToHelp, if you are trying to help, maybe you can create a website with online assessment so that people could administer this test “remotely over the internet”?
Chaim> In other words why doesn’t it create a fund to solve the tuition crisis. … They’d also have to apply the value of govt programs.
What you describe as “tuition crisis” is the fact that there are too many members of the community who do not earn enough and even rely on “govt programs” for poor people even when they are capable of working. Then, you expect someone else to raise $100M. Why not focus on teaching commuinty members to earn enough and organize schools that help that?
Sanhedrin 5 talks about stealing and then using for kedusha. Next time, include that page with the cheese.
ubi > Lets start with one Specifically environmental regulations . I have a factory that produces hazardous waste fumes
this is all discussed in Nezikin. In US, you will be simply sued, poss class action. and lose your factory. I am not saying it is ideal way to deal with environmental regulation, but this should work.
Presidential authority to limit immigration seems to come from Section 1182 that was first authorized for WW1, then extended to national emergencies
from congressional research service, Feb 2024:
current version of Section 1182(f) authorizing the President to suspend the entry of aliens or classes of aliens if such entry would be detrimental to the interests of the United States derives from the initial passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) in 1952.e Supreme Court has understood Section 1182(f) to convey broad authority to the President to limit the entry of aliens into the United States. In the 1993 decision Sale v. Haitian Centers Council, Inc., the Court upheld the validity of an interdiction program established by President George H. W. Bush through Executive Order No. 12,807, which was based on the authority under Section 1182(f). According to the Sale Court, “[i]t is perfectly clear that 8 U.S.C. § 1182(f) grants the President ample power to establish a naval blockade that would simply deny illegal Haitian migrants the ability to disembark on our shores.” In the 2018 decision Trump v. Hawaii, the Supreme Court interpreted Section 1182(f) as granting broad presidential authority to suspend the entry of aliens
somejewiknow, did you look at R Soloveitchik’s works? He is not as ideological as R Kook and is not always agreeing with religious zionists (and kal vehomer with non-religious zionists), so maybe you will be able to relate to his Torah views of modern Israel, whether you agree with him or not. Let us know what you think.
ExCTL, currently majority of financial aid comes from federal source. It is great that CT uses FAFSA here. There are other state that explicitly provide student aid for illegals. I have no problem with that, it is up to the voters of the state. A side of effect of central powers given to Feds is also that state powers became weaker and there is less competition, leading to most seats being non-competitive. Bring more power back to states, and the passions invested in electing a president will convert into local elections.
Btw, current presidency advertised their upgrades to FAFSA (and then failed to make the site work). There was one change that affected Jews among others – “family index” changed to “student index”, that is they are not taking into account other children in the family being in college at the same time. This was _not_ heavily advertised. We just bunched up 3 college students at the same time and felt good that we can finally fill out FAFSA but then saw what it does… I wish we had a first amendment that would let newspapers tell us what the government is doing to us…
yechiell > Polio has made a comeback because that nutcase RFK and others have brought it up, as a topic of conversation…was president for 4 years, and allowed this kind of talk to fester
I looked up google trends – and polio is as much a topic of conversation as it was most of the time from 2004, with one peak in July-Aug 2022.
Interest in polio vaccine is similar, with the exception of same topic, plus during covid pls last several days. So, ^ statements are counterfactualfake > Should I commit fraud or eat a piece of USDA American cheese?
We should also distinguish between Cheese and American cheese.
> where someone chose to go with Cholov Yisroel and fraud.
Although we are not allowed to believe this story, it is hilarious. Presuming the victim figured out the trick (say, he heard this happened to someone else) – could he substitute the stam cheese instead: as this was not baal nefesh, there is no good reason wasting perfectly good money. If the lender would suddenly agree to lend the money, he would take the cheese back immediately.
To clarify,
I am not saying that there are no people who need medication. I observed a number of children who were told by their Jewish schools to not bring kids to schools unless they are given medication; and a rav who sent his kids to same schools (his kids did not have problems) told me that ALL kids behaved in a couple of classes that were taught by great teachers. This leads to a conjecture that there is a lot that parents, teachers, and people themselves can do. This is not to brush off medical professionals, but if something can be treated non-medically, there is a good reason to approach it with Jewish point of view, whether using knowledgeable T’Ch or their seforim. The advantage of seforim is that you get access to best advise available globally, after that you can use the local people to help you. I addressed this poster specifically as he showed a good level of understanding himself.Also, note R Moshe’s psak allowing psychiatrist drugs but to be more careful of psychological help from non-Jewish POV.
Look up Taanis 20b, story of R Eliezer b Shimon not responding and insulting some ugly ruffian – because he was so happy from his learning. The ugly person (possible Eliyahu ] refuses to forgive, and then gives several interesting statements to people who came to great the Rov:
– if he is your rabi, there should not be more (rabo) like this in Israel
– I’ll forgive him for your sake
– on the condition, he should not become accustomed to talk like thisIt seem that he clearly does not want many teachers like that (even as R Eliezer was begging for forgiveness) but is going to compromise so that whole town will be without a teacher. He also hopes for gradual improvement in middos, not complete.
smerel, things were even more complicated than you describe:
Jews in Poland in 1920s had more fights between each other – religious v. bundists v zionists v communists, than problems from Polaks – who, newly freed from Russian empire, were busy fighting each other. You might even understand some of the “interference” such as requiring sanitary conditions in Mikvaos … Chofetz Chaim was pleading with Polish government to weaken this regulation explaining that Jewish communities were so poor that this will not lead to better mikvas, but to abandonment of mikvas; and at the same time, he was telling Jews to prepare to spend to upgrade ….At the same time, going to EY meant to exist at poverty level. Part of that was that sochnut centralized donations in 1920s and started controlling what the finds are spent on, namely rural settlement v. cities (Tel Aviv). Their goal was ideological – acquiring land for the future medinah and it is somewhat difficult to argue with the success; but the side result of that was less manufacturing in Tel Aviv, and manufacturing was creating productive jobs, that could have enabled more people to come (esp from Germany and other rich places) v. kibbutzim that were gaining land but losing money.
KGN, “Islamism” as a radical movement is not totality of Muslims. At least in theory.
golden age also had ups and downs, depending on a local ruler.
if you use expression “an ehrliche Yid” more often, you would stop asking these silly questions.
But the question may be a practical one: take a person whose parnosa is difficult and borderline questionable: he has to sell baskets to women like some Tanna; or your wife works whole day and your kids are in the care of people you don;t know; or you need to rely on non-Jewish welfare … you may reduce your halachik problems by drinking cheaper milk (comparing prices at the same level of nutrition and health).
“And it’s also goodbye Chalav Stam if he gets his way with neutering the FDA.”
Neville > Baruch Hashem.A parallel to DST threat and very revealing attitude: you just don’t care about lives of fellow Yidden who don’t do things my way.
A parallel to the thread on a shul directing clothes: one reason for Yidden to daven together is for a person to think about others during davening. That is, a self-centered merchants may daven for dry weather, forgetting that the farmer needs rain (and, of course, he himself will have nothing to sell next year if the farmer does not get the harvest). So, let’s not let those Yidden into our minyanim, so that we won’t bother about their problems.
The minhag has probably sources in astrology, so if you think that our DST affects the stars, your gaavah is above the migdal Bavel and should be a bigger issue for you than davening b’zmano.
at least we seem to agree that sqrt(2) ain’t rational. And he has a non-identical twin -1.414. I also wonder whether sqrt(-2)s are their imaginary quadruplets.
Trump made Europeans to contribute to NATO by threatening them to withdraw – and just in time for Russian aggression…
Similarly, if Trump reduces federal powers, the states, and the charities, will need to come up with solutions. Yes, like Europeans, States are addicted to just sending money to Feds and getting regulations back. Thus, we might be electing complete hacks for state government as nobody really cares. So, we will see ridiculous state responses in the first year. Hopefully, things will start moving after that. If T over-reaches, then Congress or the next President can always rebalance back. So, don’t worry Democracy did not Die in Darkness, despite a conspiracy of Biden’s team to cover up that the President had mental difficulties (as thoroughly documented in today’s WSJ article quoted on YWN front page, go read it).
gobrit, I don’t deny potential problems, but smartphones are not that different from all other objects in our life. You can get addicted to candies and to shouting at your children, and your bike can take you to inappropriate neighborhood – maybe not as fast as internet.
Still, it makes sense to start with basics – spend time with children, teach them good life habits and interests, use phones (or better computers) to do good and interesting things. This should be the first line of defense.
> With regard to how it effects children if their teacher has a smartphone, they don’t know if the device is filtered or not so
The idea that children should police how their teachers use the phones is beyond ridiculous. Next, police should not be wearing weapons because children don’t know whether policeman knows how to use the weapons? Start teaching those kids middos. This school clearly failed so far.
My suggestion would be to see what you can do without medications. You seem to be quite self-aware and this is a very good start that most people can’t master. Here are some ideas:
1) review what you get involved in. There are many, many people who are very good at following up with schedule but do not ever think about why they are doing it and whether something else should be done. You are not one of them. Try to see more creative activities that are more suited for you. They could be within your line of business, just a little off the standard approach. Find a practical way to proceed. Maybe dedicate one day a week to such activities.
2) find a partner, whether at work or at home, with you doing tasks you like and the partner complimenting, following up with tasks you drop behind … if yo are good at your part, this will work
3) three is a simple planning method that I found useful – divide a page in 4 quadrants: top – urgent, bottom – not; left – important, right – not. Put all your tasks in each quadrant. Then always start your day with top-left: important/urgent; then move to important/non-urgent (this could be strategic planning). If you have time left go to urgent/non-important or delegate; try to avoid bottom-right. “I find it useful” does not mean I perfectly follow this, but at least you know what to focus on and where to apply procrastination
4) read more on non-medical approaches to ADD; Jewish psychologists like R Twersky in general about how to deal with psychological issues.
Foreign relations – of course, but colleges and day schools is red herring: they depend on federal money because Feds took our money and now give it to colleges and schools. States should be able to provide scholarship for poor students, both schools and colleges. I am not against federal funds for research, primarily because I am nogea b’davar 🙂
A modern working Talmid Chacham – Boruch Epstein, Torah Temimah (and “my uncle the Netziv”, son of Aruch Hashulchan, learnt in Volozhin) – he was working in a bank in Pinsk in Poland.
Avram > Absolutely, whole communites do and should operate on this premise! I am not so haughty that I can say that I do all my mitzvos lishma. Only our greatest tzadikim reached that level. Why stop at clothes? Why not do away with anything that helps us overcome the yetzer hara?
That is a good question. I don’t know where the border is. Quoting a charedi Rav: if you do halakha, you can rely on Sh’A to give you an answer. The danger of doing chumros – there is no S’A to rely on, and ein l’davar sof.
But, as I said before – I am not necessarily telling people to change their behaviors, I am just suggesting to be respectful to those who do not follow your ways. Maybe here is the issue: If you are drinking coffee in beis midrash, you know you are doing a kullah, you are not looking down at those who are not drinking. [Once a rav stopped drinking in beis midrash when the class was finished. The student suggested learning another blatt to finish the drink. The Rav responded “I am drinking to learn, not learning to drink ].
BUT When you accept a chumrah/neder to protect yourself from yetzer hara, yetzer hara turns around and makes you feel that your chumrah makes you holier – and even others less so. I-forgot-who (R Yishmael?) says in Nedarim that he only once ate from a korban of a nazir who was really sincere….
So, when a whole community takes this upon themselves, the result could be looking down at others.Avram > But we shouldn’t throw out what helps most just because there’s an exception or two.
To go back to the topic, I am not arguing that it is assur to dress like a rav (although I could). I am arguing a much milder statement – that it is OK, and respectful, to be NOT dressed as a rav, it is not an aveirah or a sign of weakness, it has it’s own rationale. If you feel that looking like Chazon Ish will help you pass by McDonalds, shoin.
> You’re arguing that it’s worse when the black hat wearer does it because he looks more erliche, but that seems to be a latent prejudice against the MO.
I presume that such a person looks more religious in the eyes of outsiders, and they make corresponding conclusions.
> per this seeming definition of kiddush Hashem as doing what makes the gentiles happy.
At that time and place, majority followed the orders. That is why, I presume, the Rav found it necessary to give him a tochacha. I also heard R Heinemann saying that people should not make minyanim with several people standing in separate yards – even if it was passing the letter of the law at the moment: “a passerby might not see the difference and, as a result, a Jew in a hospital somewhere will not be given a ventilator …”
Here is R Twersky on low self-esteem in 3 different formats:
https://www.torahweb.org/torah/special/2008/dtwe_esteem.html
> CNN-level quoting
I just brought that issue for a reference, I didnt attack someone based on a misquote. Next, you’ll say that I don’t value him enough because 1.414 is less than sqrt(2)amom > power of the president via executive actions seems to grow by president.
right. A big part of it is that FEDERAL powers are growing covering things that used to belong to states. With so much on their plate, congress is not capable of dealing with all issues. Congress is supposed to be creating general laws for the country by coming to a country-wide consensus, not regulations for any minor issue. No surprise, they are failing at this job. Then, naturally, the President gets a chance to do executive orders.
Thus, getting things back to states is the way to deal with Presidential overreach. It is not only makes thing “local”, it also creates competition between states, giving people choices under which laws they want to live.Haimy> Rav Chaim Voloziner in Nefesh Hachaim states that even when those Gedolei olom were involved in business, they were thinking in learning.
This is an interesting sugya. One challenge in modern work here is that it is mostly intellectual. Even during Chaim Volozhiner times, in his surroundings, people still could have worked sitting and putting shoes together. Not now. Even plumbers spend a serious amount of time figuring out where the pipes are going and dealing with clients.
But even modern professionals have some time. Commute is one (thanks for tapes and now zoom recordings). Many meetings are great (here is where learning Mishna by heart helps). Just make sure the meeting is truly meaningless, so there is no geneiva. We also have now lights, cars, internet texts, babysitters, home deliveries that are surely giving us extra time to learn. Chofetz Chaim suggests thanking Hashem for trains (that just reached him) thinking how much more comfortable the travel became. Think, what brocha he would say on zoom and how much money he would have saved by posting on YWN instead of carrying his seforim around!
Haimy > Rav Chaim Voloziner in Nefesh Hachaim states that even when those Gedolei olom were involved in business, they were thinking in learning.
> permit taking money from other’s in order to learn because it’s impossible to become great in Torah otherwise in the later generations.True. And there are other great reasons for current charedi lifestyle beyond earlier poskim. Charedim are, so far, way more successful than other groups in saving Yidden from assimilation and in building communities. What concerns me is that b’dieved became l’hathila. So, Chofetz Chaim himself was able to find time (*) to first work in a store, and then check the quality of printing of every sefer, and travel to sell them. Did he go against MB?! Of course not. So, any learner (and kal vehomer not learner) should ask himself whether he can be closer to Rambam’s ideal – can he not take tzedoka? can he not take non-Jewish charity intended for people who are not able to work? can he work once a week? can he learn a profession that will help all of the above? If these questions were honestly asked, we would see different outcomes.
Most important: in order to justify what they do, a lot of people find it necessary to disparage everything that is not like them. This seems almost necessary logically: it is hard to admit that you are doing something b’dieved and still have a strong self-esteem. So, the end result – community protects itself alright – staying in the midbar when surroundings are bad, according to Rambam quoted by Chazon Ish. But can we normalize midbar and say – this is what Hashem wants us to always do? At the end, Torah is Emes, not just a medicine protecting us from dangers.
(*) This is how Ch Ch saw time (tzait): Radin yeshiva students could not find a sefer quoted in MB, so they went to Ch Ch, thinking that he must have the sefer at home, as he quotes. Ch Ch said that they could take 30 minutes on a train to go to an Yid who has the sefer. To their surprise why he didn’t buy his own copy, Ch Ch said sefer is gelt, and gelt is tzait, and tzait is Toirah. Notice, he did not suggest getting a donation either …
HaKatan > as per all the gedolim, who condemned either their opinions and/or themselves.
this is not true and you should know it from this group. Why are you taking such risks of insulting Talmidei Chachamim (both the ones you do not like, and the ones you misquote)? For what? For a chance of winning the argument against people who can obviously scroll up the thread and see counter-examples? Is it some sort of psychological need to re-assure yourself. If it is the latter, maybe you should write these words on a piece of paper, keep it for yourself, and destroy it later when you feel stronger.
Even if the government will follow all RFK views (which I think it will not), this will be a very productive development. Presumably, the states will keep their own vaccine policies (that is RFK will not forbid vaccines, just not demand). Then, in a couple of years, it will be easy to see differences between the states and it will be not hard to adjust those – either at state level or by the future president. and
Given current vaccination levels, or lack thereof in some subgroups, the differences will not be drastic, but enough to be noticeable. Of course, the challenge will be for population to absorb the lessons. Covid experience shows that 50% of the population do not understand what “50%” means.
Haimy > The gedolei Torah throughout history were Jews who spent their entire lives studying Torah every waking moment.
How can you right something so demonstratably not true? Many amoraim were in business; Rambam was a doctor; Shamai a builder; R Huna had wineries; R Yohanan Hasandaler was a sandaler. It was a privilege given to talmidei chachamim – they were allowed to come to the market and sell before others (Bava Basra). R Salanter wanted to travel beyond the “pale” to visit Yidden there – so instead of doing it illegally like many did, he learned a profession of ink-maker and registered as such. Chofetz Chaim travelled around selling his own books (after making a mark on each sefer after checking that it was printed correctly).
really? It is in poor taste to fight about a levaya
haKatan > You have it backwards
Look, we are discussing an article from a pro-Z Rav, who quotes multiple traditional/charedi poskim. I am not saying all his arguments are convincing, but his gives you material to review. Can you respond to the references he is using? If you think he is not using those names the right away, it would be disrespect to the gedolim you do hold to correct (or at least clarify) the record.
AAQ> “is not to give an impression of a t ch when you’re not behaving like one.”
Avram > This strikes me as one of the most powerful arguments to wear a hat and jacket that I have ever read.The other way to look at this is that it is “lo lishma”. You should want to behave appropriately fpr better reasons. Now, we do a lot of “lo lishma” starting with honey on a sefer Torah, and upping it from there as the kid grows up … But, here you are suggesting that whole communities operate on this premise, being protected and encouraged from the cheder to the kever. At some point, an Yid needs to stand on his own and be an erliche Yid.
Drones changed recent warfare. Before, the fighting was mostly concentrated to a front line. Flying over the front line was possible only after destroying air defense (see Gulf Wars). Now, drones can penetrate anywhere. So, don’t own property near significant military or industrial facilities.
Pony> If the Chazon Ish, Rav Elyashiv, Reb Moshe and the Titz Eliezer all held that the current wars are milchemes mitzvah, why did they not encourage their followers to enlist in the IDF?
This is a very good question. I don’t think the article claims that Chazon Ish and R Moshe defined current wars as such, but he does about others. We probably should start by reviewing these sources. Could someone look up these sources and see what is the context of those before jumping to the next stage.
> Furthermore, why did they not themselves sign up?
I just quoted a Rav that asked Rav Elyashiv shaylos related to Mossad and came away with a feeling that the Rav was already informed about Mossad needs. So, maybe the Rav felt that he contributed with his halachik knowledge? Just the fact that he apparently was involved with such agencies reveals that he did not see their work as treif.
Haimy, why are you are trying to divide Yidden into groups. There are shomer-shabbos Jews and there are not. The rest is a matter of opinion. Beis Hillel and Beis Shammai read each other’s teshuvos (because they would point out who is a mamzer to the other opinion).
DST is definitely responsible for a number of car accidents and heart attacks during the spring switch. I dont remember exact number, look it up. And probably more latent effects from the disruption.
It is an interesting illustration of government effects. This policy might have made sense during WW1 and it is still here even if it is probably not useful for at least two decades. We are stuck here because we want everyone in the country to be on the more-or-less same clock. But think how many other policies are unjustifiably done on a federal level, such as health, education – and how many outdated policies are there.
1.414 … said> which approach is correct: The Torah’s or the psychologist’s.
Rav/Dr Avraham Twersky might be able to answer your questions – he writes about middos and psychology. Try any of his books (he wrote somewhere that he wrote only one book in his life – about low self-esteem, different “books” are simply different ways to express that idea!)
Avram > If the behavior doesn’t match the clothes, change the behavior, not the clothes!
oh, this is a great idea. This was the approach of Alter of Slobodka who introduced dignified (middle class) clothes for yeshiva students – contrary to Novardok that proposed opposite in the name of mussar. And I am sure that many people are undoubtfully inspired this way. But, in reality, not everyone
achieves the right behavior> A non-Jew on the street is not going to ask you a complicated shaila on ribbis or kashrus. And if they did you could let them know you’re not a “T Ch”. Many who don’t have any experience with frum Jews think that anyone in a kippa is a rabbi, so you’re not really solving anything unless you completely hide your Jewishness.
And this is true. Everyone identifiably Jewish should remember this. Still, most non-Jews will call me “Jewish” and will call anyone in a hat – “Rabbi”. More importantly, most non/somewhat-observant Jews hold similar views.
I can confirm that I personally react differently. Due to my many sins, I somehow deserved to sometimes share minyan/simchas with (at least one) very inconsiderate person who dresses like a hoshuve Yid. I tend to disappear into the wall pretending I am not of the same religion every time he parks blocking someone or grabs something first in front of non-observant Yidden. You never had such a feeling?
For another example, in the first couple of weeks of Covid, when our town was under strict mask orders, the Rav told us that he stopped a non-observant (of the governor’s order) kollelnik in the street and explained to him halochos of hillul Hashem. The rav was not a mask extremist and a number of people in his shul disregarded the order also (but dressed like working people), and it is the only time I am aware of him being so direct, especially to outsiders.
Indeed, he didn’t tell me not to wear a hat, but he didn’t tell me to wear it also:) I tried to give the quote as it was …
I’ve seen many photos of old times, I hope you did but not just ones selected into artscroll biographies but search for general archival ones. In general, Jews dressed like people around them, with various types of headcovers. They all davened in same shuls, I presume.
The point of the gemora and my rav is not to give an impression of a t ch when you’re not behaving like one. I don’t think any outsider makes a difference between brims.
Pinchas, this sounds like AZ on some ways as if smartphone is the source of danger to Yidden. I understand that you heard lots of lectures about it, but it is at the end just a device. You can teach children derech eretz and Torah with or without phones, just spend enough time with the children and show them a good example.
Neville > Nobody poskens that it’s assur to wear a hat and jacket for davening.
Gemora does and so confirmed by the (very yeshivish) maggid shiur who commented: in my old country, Yidden were very careful not to dress like talmidei chachamim unless they are sure that they are at the level both lemakom and lehavero..
He himself dresses like a talmid chacham but he behaves accordingly. Put yourself in my place: after rav said this to my face, am I allowed to disregard this just because seforim say differently? So if I visit that proverbial shul, would I need a note from the rav? But maybe he wouldn’t let me daven with such people… I’ll try to ask himChaim,
I suggest you collect a page of free advise how to filter your phone to even some degree and test it with relevant population – those who need it but did not buy TAG, let’s see how it goes. If this works, start a non-profit that distributes this as ads. Hope they pass thru TAG 🙂several minor points to ^:
I am interested – is Lubavitcher Rebbe quoting R Kotler? I never saw/heard of that, but who knows. The only connection I know that Lubavitcher Rebbe was advising how to convince R Kotler to honor engagement between R Shneur and future Mrs Shneur and how to win beis din case for spending some on the hatzola money in Shanghai on chabad students….Also, RJB was not the “head of Mizrachi”, he was a supporter, but he always drew a line between that organization and his own views and rabbinical organizations he worked with.
R Kotler and R Mendel Zaks visited r Soloveichik (R Kotler called him “Bostoner Rav”) in 1950s trying to convince him to join protest against drafting women to Tzahal, but RJB refused. Soon after R Kotler invited RJB to a fundraiser for Chinuch Atzmai, and RJB spoke so highly about R Kotler that the latter was begging him to stop.
RJB was menahem avel to Kotlers, but it seems that nobody form Lakewood came to his funeral.
ubi > I guess I didnt realize its such a pressing problem
It is a thing about people not understanding others …
Just in another thread, someone presumed that non-observant people are only interested in a Tanach to mock it …
I once had a hevrusa from a somewhat shletered upbringing. After we went thru a number of dafim, I once told him a story how somewhat reacted to me being a Jew in some remote environment, to what he reacted – oh, you wear kippah to work!? He was taught in his yeshiva that people who go outside have to hide … this kept him in, and he did not revisit that as an adult
ubi> we arent oiver even a D’rabanan to prevent someone else’s issur.
thanks for explaining the teshuva. I agree that my argument about shofar is an agadta, we can’t just apply it to any issur.
I am still not sure why this is our issur d’rabonan v. someone else’s aveira. We are talking about challenges, not violation. So, you will have difficulty going to the minyan, so take time off your work and go to the minyan. Of course, this means your loss v/ someone else’s loss, and you are not obligated to do that, although maybe it would be a good humra. I can maybe argue that you are better learned & equipped to absorbe the loss, while a less observant person is not.
Or you can argue that minyan is every day, so your loss is 5x larger, or it is not practical to get accommoded at work every day.
It may be also a difference that during R Moshe’s time there was a feeling that those who are fully observant are an endangered specie, so they have to be protected and nurtured. As R Nosson Sherman’s father was saying to his (elderly) shiur goers during snowstorms – continue coming, who knows if there will be a shiur after you …
Maybe you should choose schools that teach about derech eretz more often than about phones.
Kuvult > In the past they believed they were doing a big Mitzvah converting Jews by any means necessary. Today it’s all about love, only love.
specifically, Catholics decided in 1960s (Vatican 2) that Jews per se are kosher and do not need a conversion to be saved. So, no more inquisition for us.