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back to the original discussion.its a known fact that in Lithuania all rabonim took the path of the OH more so his sefer was on the table of his contemporaries such as the rabbi of pinsk(bais ahron)the reason being that he (OH)was a rabbi/posek)and a posek/rabbi has special siyatta dishmaya this concept is brought from the noda biyehuda. when the tchebiner rov came to israel he stopped paskening because he was no longer a practicing rabbi &therefore lost that siyatta dishmayathe mishna berura was neither a practicing rabbi or rosh hayeshivaps theoh did fall out of favor in certain chassidic circles for his kulos(as did the mahrsham)
responsa divrei yatziv as well as letters to rabbi meir arik in imrei yoisher also the rebbe left rudnik not long after his fathers passing he studied under the great david tevel zehman rabbi of dukla after marrying he moved to sighet he was the rabbis son in law. his life story was written up in lapid aish
the chazzanim in beth el were as follows 1.hirshman 2. chagy 3.koussivitzky moshe 4. paul zim 5. stern 6.blum 7.currently miller the last 2 were openly orthodox the rabbi thru all of them was shorr
the mikor to the remah is in the baal hamaor in perek keerah and it seems the reason is b/c of the lack of belief in tora shebal peh
in 1939 the Gerrer Rebbe had an esrog sent thru Trieste to his self the war broke out on September 1 1939 [Friday before the first selichos] the rebbe was in Warsaw had an esrog.the Brisker rov had a lulav i believe from the previous year somehow haddasim and aravos were also found . on the first day of succos people stood for hours in a very long line to make a blessing[no shaking] the story is printed in 1 of the generic artscroll holocaust books [maybe the unconquerable spirit]
least common names male:biblical and currently heard ADAM KIHOS ZEVULUN MALKIEL KOLEV nachshon OTHER NAMES OF MOISHE RABBEINU AVIGDOR YEKUSIEL. [ AMRAM WAS THE NAME OF THE GREAT HUNGARIAN RABBI AMRAM BLUM AUTHOR OF BAIS SHEARIM.]Next era of names ;matanya siroyah yerachmiel the most uncommon name yehvee. for women most uncommon biblical osnat hadas [not hadasah] Masha is a name given for someone who wanted to give the name moshe but had a girl.shprintza originates from thespanish name espiratze which means spirit
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the mushiest tune &words combined is ‘is this the little boy i carried ‘in the musical fiddler on the roof. the most victorious tune is the music from Exodus.The most musically superior heartrenching niggun is the modzitzer Ezkiroh.The most popular piece of chazzanus is Sheyibone bais hamikdosh.my personal golden olddie favorite is the old rachem bichasdecho.
1 can some up that the ban on minarets is an effort to stop noise pollution something which other religions don’t cause.this has nothing to do with schooling or ritual slaughter.[ which is legal &practiced in Switzerland.[on poultry]the fact that there are 400,000 muslims in Switzerland [about5%combined with a lot of other foreigners is the main reason for the vote.]the total jewish population in Switzerland is twenty something not to be viewed as a threat of any kind .the condemnation by jewish in Switzerland is basic minority ediquette.
the main critique on Kapov was his ear[lack of]his voice was among the largest . furthermore although he said words over a lot he still was more diverse than Kwartin who had 3 basic tnuos S.Carlebach had this limitation inhis older years.
in all of the disscussion we forgot acouple of the golden oldies Vigoda ,Kapov Kagan wieder ederman and one of the purest singers ever ,yossele shmidt the last big cantors of Europe such as eidelson mandelbaum price. its apity that some of them never recorded professionaly
I Think the young Israel movement had alot to do with the downfall of religious cantorial music although encouraging the young people to lead is very important. This coupled with no burden 2pay another salary for a cantor are key factors why close to no synagogues have yearly cantors. p.s. there are more yearly cantors out of town why?
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a few interesting changes of text elokay ad sheloi noitzarty JORO says morek not mchok JORO says lirtzos [as well as hirschman] and Glantz says liratztos in tal [maybe sefard] i think JORO says besshilush not besholosh in shoimer yisroel benlevi r u refering to the concert where Muller sings hashem zichoronu from JORO&havdoloh from Z.Zilberts?
to mr levi i also appreciate cantor Muller not only for his beautiful voice but also b/c he’s a real ehrliche yid [his ear could use a little help]davie tzadik reb elozor is an exellent choice especially the way he fades out by his repetition of yotzoso nishmosoy another one of the less popular pieces which cantor Muller does a good job with is reb yishmoel oymer thats good gelernt abraysa CANTORESQ I didnt know that MOISHE held Unger to be such a great teacher/cantor alot oof israeli cantors that studied under Eshel
i know one of the Zim[el] brothers enjoyed a close relationship with MOISHE K. i believe it was Paul Zim he served as cantor in B.E. for a short while after Moishe’s passing.The recordings give the impression that Paul is more chazzan &Sol has a bigger voice
a600kilobear; my familiarity with sephardic cantors is alberto mizrachi singing viliruholaym ircho
the av horachamim is broyde/machtenberg what exactly is who’s? the keil moleh after the Kielcer pogrom in 1946 is that m.k. own?
what do you teach girls for a whole year? if they work/ study they can eventually support a husband who learns ,that should take priority if your serious about marrying a talmid chochom even before seminary
new seminary GO TO WORK OR GET AN EDUCATION!there’s no halachic obligation rather its probably forbidden to literally kill parents so their daughters can to camp in ERTZ for 10 months none of the last generations women went [rebbetzins included] when will this stupidity end? send all your daughters to nigt sem and they’ll perfectly capable jewish mothers enough of being scammed!
moishe probably modified sheybneh bais hamikdosh the most i believe mah godlu is moishes own he also like to sing Alter, 2masterpieces come to mind akavyo, yom kippur kotton Shores numbers were recordered by others lifeechoch anachnu was recorded by waldman &ribon haolomim [in korbanot] was recorded by Malavsky
are any of moishe k’s pieces his own?
the brocho from hallel which herschman sings is it D.M.Stienbergs?
the shommo vatismach which kwartin sings is that Eisenstadt original and Moishe modified it / P.S. i forgot Wieder on the frum list.
davie i share your appreciation for modim from rappaport however im perfectly content with Kwartin singing ribono shel oilom[hotzoas sefer tora]Adler might do a nice job but its tailor made 4 zawel .it makes me wonder how rozo dishabbos would sound sung by SIROTA im curious how u like eilu dvorim [not the way moishe sang it ]yanky55 you can take a lot of pieces into a dark room just make sure to come out. shabbat shalom A.K.A. A GITTEN SHABBOS
cantoresq i dont know if SHOMER shabbos means shomer mitzvos or not even so is someone who sings on a mic a SHOMMER shabbos? THE RESPONSA IGROS MOSHE cites 5 reasons to forbid it the AGUDAS HARABONIM formerly banned it and no shomer shabbos shul has a mic don’ mean to be offensive just to clarify
a lot of the yiddish is not yossele and the kaddish which is credited 2 JORO is a Sadigurer niggun from his roots. dovid k recorded it .
to Davie, there was a court case over those 2 compositions .galeh kvod is D.M.Stieinbergs and the famous shir hamalois is supposidly Minkowsky ,s the origin of oshamnu mikol om was composed by NISI BELZER so moishe karagodzky told me. cantoresque i dont no what the exact definition of frum is? some of the above mentioned didnt belong at the amud P,S. NISHMAS/AD HEINO is rumored2 be from the opera
davy i dont think reb yeruchim was big on punctuation …. u forgot habas yakir lee.all jokes aside malavsky was a great cantor he could sing folklore as good as anybody ,had a great falsetto was a warm zugger and not only restricted his expertise to hi holidays. vishomru is a classic as lokeil boruch .what better recommendation than yossele having him sing together on JORO recordings P.S. there,s a rabbi malavsky who teaches tora in a yeshiva in Elizabeth ,N.J. but S.M. religious conviction doesn’t pertain 2 the site other wise we’d be left with rosenblatt 2 shor,s and a handful 2disscuss
davy i dont think reb yeruchim was big on punctuation …. u forgot habas yakir lee.all jokes aside malavsky was a great cantor he could sing folklore as good as anybody ,had a great falsetto was a warm zugger and not only restricted his expertise to hi holidays. vishomru is a classic as lokeil boruch .what better recommendation than yossele having him sing together on JORO recordings P.S. there,s a rabbi malavsky who teaches tora in a yeshiva in Elizabeth ,N.J. but S.M. religious conviction doesn’t pertain 2 the site other wise we’d be left with rosenblatt 2 shor,s and a handful 2disscuss
cantoresque most of your above mentioned cantors wouldnt get a job in a shteeble 4alot of reasons i find that in all the discussion a couple of names deserve honorable mention such as moyshe oysher and did any of u here of PODORABBINIC
DAVY KUDOS FOR THE KARNIOL STEROID LINE BUT YOSSELE CALLED HIM THE KING OF COLORATURA PLUS NOT EVEN STEROIDS CAN TURN A LITVACK INTO A POILISHE OBERRABBINER THE YOUNG CHAZZONIM SHULOFF IS A CANTOR AT LEAST 35 YEARS MIZRACHI OVER20 YEARS AND THERE AIN’T NO MOSHE MULLER THE ONE IN BELGUIM IS BINYAMIN AND HE’S CANTORING FOR AT LEAST 35YRS P.S.DAVY THE PIECE U REFERRED2 YESTERDAY IS KOL HASHEM NOTA DIFFERENCE
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herr rabbiner, its a pity we didnt hear SIROTA when m.k. succeeded him in warsaw people complained that moishe was bearly audible
is cointreau kosher? one answer please i can’t figure out why european machshirim are matir and americans are stricter
i wish i thought about the kohen gadol’s look other than when we recite mareh cohen as far as glantz goes there r 2 glantz levels basic e.g. shma yisroel a great composition though within the realm of chazzonus advanced for the educated e.g.ayn kerkecho my personal favorite is a fusion of the 2styles ki keshimcho odom yesodo laibele can’t hold a candle 2 it p.s.Glatz dror yikro wheres it from?
I TAKE IT YOU DON’T MEAN SULTZER ALONE AND NOT EVEN LEVANDOWSKY BUT CANTORS /COMPOSERS FROM DIVERSE BACKROUNDS ALSO IN YOUR MEIVENUS OF CHAGY U MADE NO MENTION OF HIS FALSETO WHICH WAS AS GOOD AS IT GETS P.S. THANKS 4 YOUR CARIFICATION ABOUT M.LDOVID THOUGH MY FAVORITE OZ LIAMOY IS FROM GLANTZ
THE CURRENT MICHADSHIM ARE ROSENFELD @P.KOHEN [HE SINGS ALOT OF SHOLL] ALSO D.BAGLEY A’H’ FAR MORE THAN ADLER
davy when moishe k. 1ST CAME 2 B.E. PEOPLE WANTED CHAGY BACK ESPECIALLY THE WAY HE SAID HOYSHANOS ALSO PLEASE CLARIFY WHICH MIZMOR LDOVID IN FRI.EVE SERVICE MAYBE U MEAN THE BLESSING BEFORE MOGEN AVOS MOISHE HITS A D AND CHANGE [THERES A RECODING OF MIZMOR LDOVID BY SHLISKY
THERE WERE 2DIFFERENT MOISHES MOISHE WARSAW AND MOISHE AMERICA U R TALKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN/ISRAELI RECORDINGS SOME CREDIT SHOULD BE GIVEN 2 HANNAN WITERNITZ 4 ARRANGEMENTS ALSO THERE WERE 2STERNS 1IN S.Africa and 1 who after 2yrears in new york try2immitate moishe last 1shouldnot forget tthe other of that era such as katz fuchs and ederman
WHICH RECORDINGS OF MOISHE ARE U REFERING 2 THE WARSAW RECORDINGS R FAR LESS GRANDIOSE THAN AMERICAN/ISRAELI CREDIT SHOULD GO 2 HANAN WINTERNITZ MOISHE SOUNDS LIKE2DIFFERENT CHAZZONIM ALSO STERN WAS A DIFFERENT CHAZZAN TILL KOUSSIVITZKY STYLE WAS FORCED ON HIM HE WENT FROM ZOGGER 2 SHRIER READING ABOUT THE STERN ERA MORE CANTORS COME 2 MIND BESIDES GANCHOFF SUCH AS FUCHS KATZ AND YANKELE EDERMAN