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Colors11:
Many women wear leggings with a flared or otherwise stretchy skirt for such activities.
I would recommend reading Rabbi Yehuda Henkin’s Understanding Tzniut (which explains why Rabbi Falk’s Oz VeHadar Levhusha is extreme).
There is debate as to what constitutes a binding UNSC resolution, but it’s generally accepted that a UNSC resolution is binding if it states that there is a threat to or breach of the peace or an act of aggression; and/or the resolution cites Chapter VII of the UN Charter; and the resolution is a “decision” – that is, it includes the word “decide” (as opposed to “recommend,” “condemn,” “demand,” etc.).
Joseph:
Only certain UN Security Council resolutions are legally binding.
Joseph:
From a legal perspective, the 1947 UN Partition Plan was irrelevant – it was a General Assembly resolution, which means it was only a recommendation, and it was rejected by the Arabs, which means it never went into effect.
From a political perspective, the UN’s approval of the Plan certainly helped Israel’s international standing.
Whether or not the individual countries would have recognized Israel without UN support is, of course, impossible to know, as many other factors would have come into play. The important thing to remember, though, is that Israel doesn’t draw its legitimacy from the UN, and its rights aren’t limited to those granted by the Plan.
kvy613:
That depends on the resolution.
General Assembly resolutions are merely recommendations; states can choose whether to abide by them or ignore them.
The same is true for most Security Council resolutions. Only Security Council resolutions that are worded in a very specific manner are considered legally binding.
If Israel violated a legally binding resolution, in a worst case scenario, the country would face international sanctions and/or international armed force.
Joseph, you’re mistaken: The UN’s recognition of Israel allows Israel to participate in UN proceedings, but does not affect Israel’s status as a state.
ROB, I was going to respond to DY’s comment to me re: immigration, but you said it beautifully.
Health,
As I’ve stated before, war and terror were the norm in Eretz Yisrael long before Zionism came into the picture.
The difference is that today we have a far greater ability – and therefore responsibility – to limit the bloodshed.
And we are CERTAINLY prohibited from exacerbating it, as anti-Zionists do. Even if you truly believe that the Jewish people would have been safer had the State not been established, the fact is that it’s here, and every bit of encouragement that anti-Zionists give to Israel’s enemies contributes to the murder of Jews.
DY,
The claim is that “until the great public pressures for the establishment of a Jewish State, the Mufti had no interest in the Jews of Warsaw, Budapest or Vilna. Once the Jews of Europe became a threat to the Mufti because of their imminent influx into the Holy Land, the Mufti in turn became for them the incarnation of the Angel of Death.”
There was no “imminent” influx; there was an ongoing influx – it started in the 1880’s (before the Mufti was born, as Avi K pointed out), and it was spurred by conditions for Jews in Europe. Of course Zionism played a role, in that it gave the immigrants hope for a positive future, but there would have been an immigration issue regardless.
DY:
Feel free to clarify, then, what it is he’s arguing.
Health:
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kj chusid:
What an absurd argument – 19th and early 20th century European persecution is what drove many Jews to make Aliyah in the first place. So you’re saying that because Jews tried to save themselves from rape, torture, maiming, and death, they’re responsible for the actions of a psychopathic mass murderer.
That’s messed up.
Health:
I stopped at 1066 because the point was made – there are plenty more examples of Muslim atrocities in the intervening years. And by the way, for those talking about Shmad, the atrocities include forced conversions of Jews to Islam.
The facts are:
1. Far from being unusual, dead Jews are unfortunately the norm. If Jews had not been attacked in the last 67 years, that would be much more remarkable.
2. Although there were times and places in which Jews prospered under Muslim rule, the happy-go-lucky Muslim-Jewish relationship is a myth.
With regard to the Holy Land itself, I point again to the 1834 & 1838 attacks on Jewish Tzfat – these attacks obviously predated both Zionism and British control.
Joseph:
In 1033, Muslims murdered 6,000 Jews in Fez; in 1066, they murdered 4,000 in Granada. That’s 10,000 in 30 years, which is the exact same rate.
Please reread my first point – there was already endless war and terror in Palestine.
It’s extraordinarily un-Jewish to be so eager to execute people.
1. The idea that life was rosy for Jews in pre-state Palestine is false.
Prior to Zionism’s contributions to the land and society, there was widespread poverty and disease. Enormous swaths of land were not only left uncultivated, but it was believed that they could never be productive again. Government neglect meant lack of infrastructure and security. The inhabitants of Palestine (both Jewish and non-Jewish) lived under the constant threat of attack from Bedouin thieves, as well as with the danger of getting caught up in the incessant armed clashes between the various tribes and ethnic groups living in Palestine. This was in addition to the effects of wars conducted in Palestine by outsiders.
Consider, for example, the 1834 and 1838 attacks against the Jewish community in Tzfat.
2. There has never been a period in post-Biblical Jewish history in which Jews weren’t threatened/attacked – why should this one be any different? Yes, Jews died in Israel, but if there would be no State, Jews would be dying elsewhere.
3. The idea that Israel should “force everyone to keep the Torah” is ludicrous – leaving aside other issues, whose version of Torah would everyone be “forced to keep”? Satmar’s? Bobov’s? The Mir’s? Maybe Gush Etzion’s?
4. Leave gay people alone – the Sinat Chinam among Jews is a far more pressing issue. If every Frum person demonstrated deep and true love for their fellow Jews regardless of background, you would instantly double the amount of people interested in keeping Torah and Mitzvot, solve many of the issues in Israeli society, and be much more likely to see Mashiach in our lifetime.
flatbusher,
As a woman, I very much appreciate your recognition of the difficulties many women have connecting to Simchas Torah.
Obviously, some women are either fine or tell themselves they’re fine with experiencing the celebrations vicariously. But you’re absolutely right – many women and girls have very little interest in watching men go round and round and round. Worse, since they’re not included in the celebrations, many feel as though the Torah isn’t theirs to celebrate.
YITZCHOK2,
I agree with you completely regarding school programs. I really don’t understand why such programs aren’t already in place. Sarah Schenirer’s whole goal was to get girls to love Torah – shouldn’t Bais Yaakovs make this the highlight of the year?