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Aruch Hashulchan (EH 13), Quote: “I will tell you a great principle: Chazal, besides their holiness and wisdom in the Torah, were also greater scholars in the natural sciences those savants (“mischakmim”) who would argue against their pure words. And someone who disagrees with them testifies about himself that he does not believe in Torah she bal peh, even though he would be embarrassed to admit it outright.”
The Gemora in Sanhedrin (100a) tells that R. Yochanan derived from a posuk that when Moshiach comes, the gates of Jerusalem will be made of jewels 30 amos long and 30 amos high. Some student said that such big jewels do not exist – “we do not even find jewels as big as doves eggs,” he said. Then, one day the student saw angels (!) cutting such big stones, and he asked them what they are for. The angels answered: “They are for the gates of Jerusalem”. When next he saw R. Yochana, he praised his qualifications for expounding the Torah, based on his “scientific observation” that confirmed the Rebbi’s interpretation. R. Yochanan responded, “Bum! You only believe because of what you see? You dishonor the words of the Sages!”, and the student died.
The Ran (Drashos #13) points out that the statement of R. Yochana had no halachic relevance at all – it was merely an Agadic interpretation, and the disagreement was regarding a scientific fact, yet the student was punished for not believing in its truth. Therefore, he concludes: “Just as we are commanded to follow their opinions regarding laws of the Torah, so too are we commanded to follow all of what they say from tradition in Hashkafa (“Deos”), and medrash on Pesukim. And someone who veers from their words, even in something that has no relevance to any Mitzvah, is an apikores and has no share in the next world.
in the opinion of most poskim.
How did you determine which way most hold?
Mammele: Shpringer was another unrelated niftar. The confusion was due to the same first name, last initial, also a Lubavitcher who was niftar the same day as our Itzik’s levaya.
Chillul Shabbos is only muttar in a direct pekuach nefesh situation directly invoving yehudim. It is a rare situation, as most of the Shabbos work required in these positions do not meet this threshold.
walton, do you price it every time you get another one from each husband?
You’re saying that an order of pasta with bread and a tenderloin sandwich with french fries and two scoops of ice cream and chocolate parfait for dessert from Glatt Ala Carte is healthier than an order of Sauteed Vegetables, Chicken Nuggets, Tuna on Tossed Salad and chicken soup from Kosher Delight?
He was niftar on Pesach, so the shiva may have ended. Though the U.S. levaya was on Sunday, so I’m not sure.
I’m saying the general health status on the overall menu of both eateries are comparable.
This was his first (and longest running) name here:
BD”E
Where’s the thread popa started a couple days ago on this?
ubiquitin: Anyone can create any personal or group memorial or commemoration. Many people celebrate their wedding anniversary. Others may mark every year the date they were rescued from kidnappers. Nothing wrong with any of that. But they aren’t a Jewry-wide day. A Jewry-wide day can only be instituted by Chazal. And it is unreasonable to expect all of Jewry to recognize a day some group of laymen, especially laymen who have no love for the Torah, institute.
As far as the two reasons you outlined in your first post above, I generally agree with them. (Though not your analysis that we feel excluded/slighted due to our non-participation. There was no point or benefit in the armed resistance and we are glad we didn’t participate.)
That being said, even if the institutors of this day did not choose it to commemorate (and date it to) the armed resistance and did not use it to signify that they believe the geulah has already come, we still would not participate in it. That is because we already have Tisha B’Av for this purpose and use it for just that.
Sure. And they can create Olympic Martyrs Remembrance Day too, to mark the Munich massacre, every September 6th.
But don’t expect all residents of the Holy Land to participate or even recognize/acknowledge these days.
I don’t know about a general psak forbidding jury duty anywhere, but certainly a psak that someone on a jury cannot vote to convict a yid or find him liable to another party in the absence of halachic thresholds.
Fast food or slow food, it has the same health status.
ubiquitin: Chazal could make a new day for Klal Yisroel, we cannot.
If a handful (or however large or small) number of people want to make a newfangled day for them to remember an event, by all means do so and have whatever celebrations or whatever you wish. But do not expect all of Klal Yisroel or all survivors to recognize or respect or honor or do anything different on that date set by some secularists who have no love for the Torah than any other date on the calendar. We won’t impose our disagreement with it on you, and you cannot impose this date upon us. You and likeminded can have it, but don’t expect it to be recognized by others as anything other than a typical workday or playday.
amamin: Overall, GAC’s menu is just as unhealthy.
amamin: KD is just as “healthy” (and the food just as tasty) as GAC.
I prefer Kosher Delight much better.
I park by touch. There is no other way in NY if you are going to be able to park. Spaces are tight and there aren’t enough parking spots.
less: Chinatown is outside BP. It starts at about 10th Ave, where Jewish BP essentially ends. Neighborhoods aren’t defined by technical boundries (in fact legally there are no exact boundaries for NYC neighborhoods) but rather by similar neighbors. Neighborhood boundries are constantly shifting. And Jewish BP has expanded further and further out (on all four sides) for many years. The core of BP is almost entirely frum. (Roughly speaking between 11th and 21st & between 39th and 60th. Though many blocks outside that area are heavily frum too.)
DY: Thank you for making a point to point that out as often as you do, including where there was no expressed agreement or mention of the same points. Your point is well taken. Great authors are recognized by their literary works even without attribution.
yosef9: If you put an ad out for your basement apartment for rent that exluded an ethnic group you’d be in legal trouble even if you tried explaining that you simply couldn’t live with folks of that ethnicity or race. Nevertheless, I sympathize and agree with your second to last comment above not wanting to live with that specific group. Where we part company is when you carry over that feeling to frum Jews, whether it is not wanting to live near too many Sefardim or near too many Yekkes (cause you’re not a Yekke), etc. You should be comfortable living near and with any type of frum Jews.
y r u worried? I am no more worried “bumping” a fancy car then bumping a regular car when parallel parking. That’s what “bumpers” are made for. (Duh.) I’m not more responsible to a fancy car owner than to a jalopy owner.