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Why don’t you get tested for the antibody? If you test positive it’s highly unlikely that you will catch it again and you can go to minyan without worries, just wear a face mask as a precuation.

These housing complexes are run by a board that is elected by owners of apartments in the building. Since there are a large number of frum owners in these buildings, it is possible that davening with a minyan may be legal as the board decides what the rules are. Also most homeowners don’t vote in these elections so it easier to take over the board similar to school boards in East Ramapo and make it legal. Also since it’s common to have a minyan in the house when one is sitting shiva and there is a large number of frum tenants in these building all of whom are seniors it is quite possible that it’s permitted.

Since there is no private backyards or garages,in Deerfieild, this rogue minyan must be in someone’s dining/living room. A private minyan is probably against zoning,laws, coop and or condo board rules and or housing association regulations, which is why the YI has 1200 members. There is Federal case law in New Jersey when Toms River chalanged a Chabad House, permitting prayer groups of up to 50 people in a home. If small private minyans are allowed in apartments, why join a big shul where you can only get a kibud once or maybe twice a year,when in a small minyan everyone can get a Kibud every week. Why walk out of the housing complex when you have a minyan in the building?, I could be wrong but shul dues and assorted fees are between $2-5 thousand per member, while an apartment minyan cost nothing unless they want to hire a cantor and or a bal koray.

What this will do is encourage the break away minyan to be permanent. Since they already have a minyan it’s not hard for someone to use a garage or basement to make it permanent. If any of the members of the rogue minyan are popular, such as former officers of the YI,, they can recruit others to join their minyan. YI has a mortgage and salary expense for the rabbi, the lose of income during the pandemic plus the loss of income from the loss of members will push them closer to bankruptcy. People who join a backyard or porch minyan regularly go to shul and the loss of these members from YI may make it harder for YI to maintain a daily minyan.

The number of people dying in the US from auto accidents is around 40,000 per year but back in the late 70s and early 80s it was over 51,000 per year. Just a little less than died from Covid -19.. Did any one stop driving then or now? By your definition anyone who speeds or breaks a driving rule or even has a drivers license is a murderer.

Perhaps schools and shuls should start opening with security that’s there anyway scanning the students’ and or members’ temperature as they enter to insure everyone is well and doesn’t transmit any disease. This is only once the governor gives the all clear and allows them to open.

Why stop at life insurance what about burial insurance? Back in the days every Jew was part of a Chevra Kedushah which took care of the burials. Now a days hardly anyone is a member. The cost just for a burial plot can be as high as $50,000.00 in some places both in Israel and in Brooklyn. Add at least another $10,000 for taharah and other funeral expenses. The cost back then was $20.00 a year per family a lot cheaper then any life insurance policy.
Yes there are charities that will bury the poor, but just as you are trying to convince people to buy life insurance so to0 should they buy burial insurance. What happens to the deceased if they don’t have a burial plot or the cemetery is closed or there are no flights to Israel, due to the pandemic. I guess they just have to wait.

Why limit it to just life insurance why not also provide housing and food also.. Most Yeshivas are on a very tight budget and can’t afford the extra $5.00 per week per employee of additional expense. Most people are on a tight budget and given the option would rather forgo the insurance for more food or clothing. Even with insurance you will be surprised how soon they blow through it.

The determining factors are: Will Sander’s supporters come out to vote for Biden or will they sit this one out. Also who will the independents support. Another factor is will Trump help flip the House of back to Republican control? With rallies out Trump is getting his message out while you don’t hear much from Biden

I never meant that you can not catch it by going to a minyan. My main point was that the vast majority of people dying and or catching corona virus have never attended a minyan in their life. They probably caught it in a store or other public area because they were not wearing a mask. It’s been almost four weeks since the virus started and I think all shuls have been closed either voluntarily or under threat of closure by the government. So the only minyanim that are around are underground and difficult to find. And if found will just pop up elsewhere. If you really want to combat this epidemic and not just rant, the government should start distributing masks to the public and likewise go house to house testing people so those infected with the virus wouldn’t transmit it to others.

President Trump will probably win his reelection either because of how he fought the epidemic or because Biden & Sanders are going to be fighting it out until July and probably wouldn’t be united there after.

Som1 Did you mean meet as we eat meat, also is greyhound even around I thought they were bankrupt. Also,which bridge are you trying to sell and which bus station are you referring to and what is the purchase price.

Som1 Presidents Trump, Clinton & Johnson were impeached and they were also all acquitted. I assume you have a clear title on the bridge you want to sell me. Otherwise, you are going to jail for fraud.

Little Frog why do you assume Sam Klein is talking about you and not talking about himself.

Your Rosh Yeshiva was talking about when part of the minyan is in one room and part is in the other because they are in separate rooms and can’t be combined but once there is 10 men in one area then video conferencing would work. so that you can answer amen. In Israel where backyard minyans are allowed this maybe a solution. If you have a mishnah bruriah look up chapter 55 statement 20 you can see it for yourself.

Now that New York needs aid to fight this epidemic do you think Trump will give it? Sure he will authorize some aid but because he knows he wouldn’t get any electoral votes from NY it will be a low priority. For example the state claims they need 30,000 – 40,000 ventilators and the Fed gave 400. Who is going to advocate for New Yorkers Schumer or Nadler after the impeachment I don’t think they will get a dime from him.

If there was a minyan (10 Jewish men) who davened maintaining social distance and then video conference with others the others could answer amen. Source is Shulchan Oruch Orach Chaim 55:20.

What wrong with a virtual tour of the Bais Hamikdush and or the Mishkon.

The yeshiva is closed by order of the government. G-d is testing us to see how we will react. Will we still daven when the shuls are all closed? Will we still learn when yeshivas and Butey Medrashus are closed.

I realize that some of you consider me to be less of a Jew because I want to keep shuls open and Daven with a minyan. Unlike many of you I can’t stay home and telecommute. I have to be at my desk and in order to do so that I have to take a subway each day there and back. While the Governor may say use less crowded trains you can wait all day until you find an empty train. The trains are still full there is no six feet barrier between riders although it maybe easier to get a seat. So if it is as dangerous as you claim why are the subways which is under the state jurisdiction still running.

I try to daven mincha during lunch time and usually can find a minyan and perhaps the merit of praying with a minyan protects me from the virus but there are those who work in the neighborhood and usually would daven with a minyan but since their rabbi said no davening with a minyan even with masks and gloves and a separation of over 6 feet, they wouldn’t come.

Lowerourtuition Covid is contagious but you have to weigh the benefits of learning and davening verses the chance of dying from Covid-19. For all you know thousands or even millions including you, have it but its so mild they don’t realize they have it. Even if you don’t have it are you staying home and not going to work. How will you get food and water if you don’t go outside to shop. The water maybe contaminated.

You must believe in G-d and if you do and pray to him he will protect you. How can you cross the street maybe a car will come and hit you. You believe the car will yield the right of way to you but not that G-d will protect you?

Do you really think that if shuls close everyone will daven 3 times a day. Or that thousand of kids will stay home and not play out in the street?

Nu so how was the first day of the plastic bag ban. ( For those living in New York State) Did your store still offer plastic bags? Did the line at the cashier move faster because they are not packing the bags?

You do realize that President Trump can pardon prisoners who are sentenced to death. Also he can order a drone strike on anyone deemed an enemy combatant anywhere in the world so it can be argued he has the power of life and death. In fact wasn’t the president impeached because the Democrats claimed he exceeded the constitutional restrictions similar to your case with Achashveros.

It’s all in the hands of G-d. He alone chooses who the leader is, proof of that is we have Trump. The only way Gantz can be form a government is with Joint Arab parties and Lieberman ‘sYisrael Beitein. Both of them hate each other and will pull out and the government will fail. Yisrael Beiteinu is losing voters so who knows maybe some of his voters are moving to the other right wing parties and the right wing and Charadi parties can form the government

If schools are closed parents would have to stay home to watch them. But we need people to work in order to survive. You need truckers to bring food supplies to the stores, and people to stock the shelves, police, to maintain order, medical staff to maintain hospitals otherwise there will be riots.

The power of prayer and of learning will protect us so I don’t think closing schools or houses of worship will help reduce the epidemic.

Perhaps this epidemic came because how we mistreated the antivaxers. Just as we expelled them from schools so too we are being quarantined from society.

Burnt Steak – You maybe correct that 1 plastic bag is more harmful than a paper bag. But if we are going to replace the millions of plastic bags used annually with paper bags thousands of trees are going to be cut down each year.
Trees convert carbon dioxide into oxygen via photosynthesis . You can goggle it if you don’t believe me. This is suppose to be taught in elementary school if secular studies were taught at your school. The amount of oxygen generated is based on the number and size of leaves on the tree. Humans need oxygen to live which they breath in and exhale carbon dioxide. If thousands of mature trees are cut down each year and it takes years even if they are replanted by saplings immediately until they can produce the same amount of oxygen as the ones cut down. This will reduce the percentage of oxygen in the air, which will require many humans to be walking around with oxygen tanks.
What effect this will have on animal life is unknown but many will die.
An easy solution is to incinerate all garbage this would save billions of dollars that we spend shipping garbage out of state and country, as our dumps are all full. If done properly with scrubbers on the smokestack it can be environmentally friendly and everyone can use disposable plastic bags.