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These teachers are paid between $10,000 – $17,000 per year. At $10,000 for 10 months is $1,000 per month. Four weeks to a month equals $250 per week.

When they sign the contract it’s for the annual amount $10,000 which looks like a lot of money so they sign. You don’t realize until you get your first check how little you are getting after taxes.

Tech. 20

The solution is for the yeshiva to help the newlyweds get a subsidized apartment in the community together with a Kollel where the husband can learn.

Reb Yid

Does Flavored Tobacco need a hechsher

CT Lawyer & Joseph

Yes you are right 50 years ago it was legal to discriminate against women. In fact Blacks were just getting the rights to vote down south back then.

What I meant to say was if it happened today your mother could have sued and won.

Double Payment isn’t relevant today even in cases of theft because the Jewish courts aren’t authorized to collect it. Also double payment can only be imposed by a Jewish court in cases of theft, also in this case since it was returned voluntary ( without it being brought to court) no fine (double payment) is imposed.

I do think that both parties should apologize to each other.

Wishing everyone a Happy & Healthy New Year

Will they be tumah and need to be sprinkled with the water and ashes of the parah adomah? Will they still be matamah in a tent?

CTLawyer

If your wanted she could have sued the superintendent she would win and the district would have had to pay big time.

It appears that on one hand you want the Morah to be committed to work a full school year. On the other hand they are hardly paying them anything and there is no incentive to stay.

Let’s face it no Morah no matter how dedicated she is, is not going to turn down a shidduch just so she can finish the school year.

Let’s say there is have a no marrying clause in the Morah’s contract and she finds a boy and gets engaged. The most the Yeshiva can do is fire her and possibly hold back two weeks pay or about $500 – 1,000 gross or $350- $700 net. The Morah has nothing to lose and goes on unemployment and tells them (Dept of Labor) that her employer held back her last check. They will get her, her back pay and the yeshiva will have to hire her back. The Morah is not interested in the job and the Yeshiva will now have to prove that the Morah’s not interested or face fines.

In fact the firing of the Morah maybe in the best interests of the Morah. This way she collects unemployment while planning her wedding . It also doesn’t solve the problem as the yeshiva needs to find a replacement anyway. All it does is increase the unemployment premiums that they have to pay.

A better solution is for the yeshiva to promise at least subsidized housing if she finishes the year. This together with help in finding a kollel for the groom will help the yeshiva retain qualified teachers.

Yeshiva Bochur

“show me someone who supports themselves fully solely from learning and then I will consider it a real job. If I was learning full time I’d be broke and my family would starve”.

If you are on govt. programs you wouldn’t starve and as far as being broke many people with good jobs are also broke.

That is at least the third deleted post you have tried to repost. If you continue to resubmit deleted posts you will be blocked

It is a pyramid scheme. It maybe legal but just barely

Are you talking about it being a Chatziizah when wearing Tefilin or is it just the hair style and you are going in the way of the gentiles?

I hope everyone makes a lot of money on this but I just think it’s a scam.

This is nothing new, when ever I see Siddurium or Chummashim lying on the table around me when I come to shul before davening. I put them back on the shelves. I only do it for the 5-10 tables near my seat.

Once one person does a few, others will follow and soon they are all back on their shelf. The problem is that it may be hard to find the right place, so if they are labeled with a shelf number or color coded it increases the possibility of it getting done. I have seen custodial staff putting them back.

You can either complain about the problem or do something about it. If you put just a “Few Seforuim” back others will see and follow suit. But if you do not put any back, nobody else will.

You are either part of the solution or part of the problem.

Joseph

This is another impossible dream. The Government even under Obama has been deporting illegal aliens. The problems are:

A) Unless they are in jail even if they (illegal aliens)are caught they are usually let go and told to come back for their hearing, which most of them never show up for. The only way to show you really mean it is to keep them jailed until the hearing.

B) There is no real solid wall or fence dividing the US from Mexico or Canada so you can just walk across or swim in some places. A solid wall with trip wires are needed to prevent the illegals from entering the US. So even if you deport a few they just keep coming back. They have been talking about building a fence for years but nothing has been done.

Likewise, better control over people who remain after their visa expired is needed so that they can be rounded up and deported.

You are going to need a new police force and prisons just to handle this. But can we afford this?

Joseph

I agree with most of what you said but using current law, a private school that is fully funded by public funds is labeled as a public school which is governed by the board of education or in NYC the Dept. of Education.

As I said before a tax credit program witch the yeshiva tuition is paid back to the parent as a tax refund is the way to go. But although Dov Hikind and Simcha Felder fought to have it included in this year’s NY State budget for a mere $500.00 per student it didn’t pass.

You say “The government cannot interfere with parents schooling choices or methodologies.” The state has the right to regulate that secular studies that are taught in yeshivas. This is the purpose of this thread.

I also disagree with your comments “All Taxpayers” are you saying non-taxpayer children are not entitled to an education or not entitled to school choice?

As far as getting the government out of the education business it is not going to happen, The unions are too strong to get this passed at least not in NY State.

Less Chumras

You are correct that for the 2015 term they won enough seats to control the senate but just barely. They won 32 out of 63 seats and currently have 31 seats so they need the Democrats. Even with the one vote majority it’s hard to pass anything without Democratic support. The Democrats are controlled by the unions who are against any support for non-public education, that is basically what is blocking it.

Once the government starts paying for the children’s education they will want to micro managing what is taught and how much is taught. This is already happening in regards to pre-k. We don’t need it. A better solution is to grant tax credits for education. The parent or relative will get a tax credit on their income tax for tuition payments. The taxpayer will be subsidizing yeshiva education indirectly and not have the power to micro manage the yeshivas, just like than any other tax credit program.

Writer

The government getting involved is just complicating the matter. I realize there is peer pressure on the parents to send their child to a certain type of yeshiva. But are you saying that all these people are in a cult and randomly give up their children’s future just so they will fit in.

I think they need to have a kiruv program. Just like there is a kiruv program for the non Orthodox. There should be a kiruv program where say on Shobbos or Sunday. Students from traditional yeshivas with a secular department learn with the students that don’t have secular education. Maybe even having learning contests with the parent attending. This will expose both the students and the parents to the concept that you can have a secular education and still be a Talmud Chocham. May of today’s Gedolim had secular education. I believe even the Satmar Rav, R’ Ahron had it.

The problem is the welfare state that we live in doesn’t really encourage productivity. In minority neighborhoods you have generation after generation on the dole. This is happening in our community too. It has to be, that going on government programs is look down upon. Otherwise why learn secular studies they are never going to have a job.

If you only do one stop shopping and aren’t happy with the hemish hecsher or don’t like the price for Twizzlers try Amazon. I am sure they have them and they do sell many of the same groceries at a lower price and it’s shipped directly to you. I don’t know about their meats but for example many of the BJ’s are kosher on the eastern seaboard so it never hurts to ask. Amazon customer service is great so maybe they will get into the kosher food business. So you can order your groceries on Amazon and just do one stop shopping for meat, dairy and baked goods, less to carry home.

Hechsherim are a marketing expense. For example Striets which has the Solovetchick Hecsher had to get a more well known hecsher in order to get it’s product into some kosher stores. People who do not recognize the hechsher will net rely on it and wouldn’t buy it.

Stores try to maximize profit so if they have a choice between two products they will use the more marketable item.

In theory you can rely on any hechsher because a Jew is believed as to what is kosher. But this person is being paid to do it so it is quiet possible that for money he might lie. That is why you should always rely on a reliable hechsher.

RebYidd23

Vampires would only be like zombies if while sucking the blood out the victim he died. If he left the victim alive he is tahor. Even if the victim died while he was sucking, the vampire is only a Father Tumah while the zombie is a dead person who was resurrected, thus making him a Grandfather of Tumah.

Writer soul

I sent my sons to YTV and Mir both with at least to me the Secular Department was competent. I didn’t realize that they were low level of Talmudic studies. Every year student switch from one yeshiva to the next so I don’t see why it was necessary to report the yeshiva to the Dept of Education.

Closing Yeshivas should not be done because where would the students go? But likewise there is a limit what the government can do. There is the separation of church & state. The only thing they can do is encourage the yeshiva to teach more secular studies by giving them more benefits (money). But once they give more money to these yeshivas it will encourage other yeshivas who are meeting the standards to apply for these benefit too. Nobody want the Board of Ed ( Dept of Education)to be paying students tuition for the parents. That’s were we are heading. If they want to dictate the curriculum they should have to pay for it.

Joseph

So everyone registered now, doesn’t have to take the test.

How is the test administered, right now all you need to do is fill out a form and mail it in, or you can do it at the DMV. Are you going to have to go to a testing site? How long will it take?

Who is going to grade the tests?

You can’t even get a valid ID requirement law for voting passed in Congress and you want literacy laws. Even if you got the law you can never verify the person is actually taking the test as many people have others fill out forms especially tax forms. So whats to prevent someone from taking the test for you, as many do for the college boards.

Yeshivas don’t get money for busing. The state mandates that students living 2 miles away in elementary & 2.5 mile away in high school must be provided with school busing by the Board of Ed. This mandated busing applies in both NY & NJ. They do get grants (which are like money) for text books, security systems, furniture to name a few things. As far as tax breaks for yeshiva they are a nonprofit org. and these tax break are based on IRS regulations.

As far as NY regulating Yeshivas while technically your correct they have never really enforced core curriculum in the yeshivas so to some extent they are unregulated.