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I don’t really understand this thread. The Rav Poskind that he shouldn’t shouldn’t get drunk. His wife doesn’t want him to get drunk so it should be simple that he should not get drunk. Why are people advising him to go against the ruling of his Rav?
Every year there are people that are rushed to the hospital for health related problems due to drinking too much, besides those who fall or get into other accidents. Is it worth it to risk your life and/or marriage just to drink on Purim?
While getting drunk MAYBE a Mitzvah the fact that your drunk and can’t daven and do other Mitzvahs far out weigh any benefit of getting drunk.
Abba_SParticipantI think what many who post are trying to say is that Get and or divorce should not be the first choice. We unlike the Catholics have a method to dissolve the marriage which is via a Get. This should be used rarely. I also don’t want couples to be in a relationship where they are hating each other.
I think many parents cater to their child’s every need and after they are married they expect their spouse to do the same. When this doesn’t happen fights ensue which then may lead to divorce.
Abba_SParticipantHealth:
A) I don’t understand your views, in fact I am not sure what your views are.
B)Divorces are granted by the state courts and in most cases the wife is granted more than she is entitled to, which results in the husband withholding the Get creating more problems.
C)People fail tests all the time and it’s not the end of the world. A child may fail a test it doesn’t mean he will the course. King David failed the test when it came to Bat Sheva but still the Mesiach will come from his children.
D) There is a divorce crisis caused by too many people getting into a relationships that they should never gotten into. Maybe in high school there should be a required course where everyone researches civil court divorces cases so that they understand what can happens in divorce.
E) I am not a Monday morning Quarterback. I am merely making comments to encourage an exchange of ideas so that maybe we can get a solution to this crisis.
March 20, 2016 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm in reply to: Invited to the Wedding Feast, not the Ceremony-would you be offended? #1143032Abba_SParticipantMazel Tov on the wedding. I don’t know how far it is from NYC but I assume it is at least 2-3 hours from NYC. I am also assuming it’s on a Sunday. I would not be offended in the least, who would want to get up for a 7 Am minyan on Sunday if there is even is one in order so that you can start your trip by 8 to get to the wedding on time. I would be thankful that you even consider us New Yorkers and provided a dinner where we could also celebrate the wedding joy with you.
That being said there are people who may feel insulted that they weren’t invited to the actual wedding. In all probabilities even if they had been invited I believe the vast majority of New Yorkers would not attend especially if it was called for 10:30 AM.
Weddings never seem to start on time so if it’s called for 10:30 it will start around 11:00. The wedding ceremony will take about a half hour and the dinner should take 2-3 hours. It’s over by 2 giving you an hour to change into another outfit, which is no big deal for us guys but maybe to short for the women. Also the caterer has to clean up which takes some time.
By 3 you have to be on the way to NYC for the wedding banquet. By 6 your at the hall the women are in the hall fixing themselves up. By 6:30-7 the smorgasbord is being served, by 8:30 dinner is served. It probably is not going to be over before 12:00 so I would recommend that you sleep over rather than drive back that night as most accident happen between 12:00 and 3:00 in the morning.
Please note I am not a wedding planer just giving you some good advice.
Abba_SParticipantI agree with you that divorce should only be used as a last resort, but what I am seeing is an epidemic of people in their early 20s divorced and with children. Many divorced before the child is one.
I have children of marriageable age so I subscribe to a shidduch listing were I get a listing of available singles. The listing only gives the initials, sex, the age, the shaddchun’s name, if divorced and if so how long, number of children, and a brief description. This is how I discovered this problem.
This problem is happening in all types of families whether they be working, rabbinic or Hasidic and there is a very good chance they will be living in a single parent family for years to come.
Abba_SParticipantMammele & Health:
I am not blaming the father at all in this case. The ex wife fight with both her kids and the neighbors. The wife has sole custody of the children and one time when one of the kids ran away to him the father had the police return the child. He can’t even talk to them without the wife’s permission even though he is paying child support and alimony.
The point I am trying to make is that divorce may solve the fighting on one level. It creates different problems on another level. This is besides the financial burden it places on the parents.
Abba_SParticipantHealth:
Friends and relatives only get involved when they find out about it. The course teaches the couple to resolve the problem between themselves and not reveal their problems to others. I am not a sitting -chair quarterback, I am trying to find a solution to the problem of divorces in the community. There is a price society pays for all these divorces.
For example,I have a divorcee living on my block with three adult children, although they started out frum and went to yeshiva everyone is off the derech. They fights with themselves and the neighbors and the police have been called and have made numerous arrests at the home in order to maintain the peace. I believe, if the father would have had a greater influence on his children’s life growing up they might still be frum and not have problems with the police. While I will agree that not every divorce results in such dramatic problems many do.
March 14, 2016 12:59 am at 12:59 am in reply to: Divorce is Worse than a Difficult Marriage #1143230Abba_SParticipantLife is a test and marriage is a test and divorce is a failure. Before the marriage they both thought the other was the greatest. What happened? To drive a car you need to pass both a written and driving test. To get married there are no such test although they may study the laws of niddah.
They are starting to give Shalom Bias classes here in Brooklyn but the ones that need it never attend these classes. Many of couples don’t take criticism well resulting in fights, parents/in laws and or friends get involved and it spirals out of control until the end result is divorce.
A conflict resolution course should be a requirement before a couple could be married. The course should have role playing where they are taught how to resolve disputes amicably and avoid the constant fighting and divorce.
Will this happen? I tend to doubt it but it could help eliminate the cause for difficult marriages and divorces.
Abba_SParticipantMost divorces can be avoided if the parties would apologize prior to going to sleep. Many of us when we say kriyas shemah forgive those who have sinned against us, which is more or less the same thing. By the time they go to a professional the hatred has spiraled out of hand, each party knows what to do to antagonize the other and divorce is the only option. It’s like an addiction as soon as they get together they fight.
I know a timid guy wouldn’t hurt a fly or talk back to anyone who got married to a woman, the next thing I hear they are adopting her niece. Within a year they were divorced, but since he adopted the wife’s niece he was stuck with child support. This guy was close with R’ Miller who was strongly against divorces and probably spoke to him prior to getting divorced.
From a financial standpoint they are better off remaining together as child support and alimony plus the cost of maintaining two home will drain their assets. Does a wife who is supporting her husband and divorces him have to pay alimony?
From an emotional standpoint they maybe better off getting divorced. The stress of fighting will result in health problem besides psychological problems for years to come.
As far as who is at fault each case must be decided on it’s own merits, but many divorces could have been resolved if they would both apologize when their fight just started. It’s like the Hatfield & the McCoy who had a feud and even though no one can remember what it was about they were still killing each other.
March 11, 2016 10:08 am at 10:08 am in reply to: Divorce is Worse than a Difficult Marriage #1143171Abba_SParticipantLess Chumras
While in theory one can insure not having to go through hell in the next world by going through an abusive marriage, I wouldn’t advice putting yourself through that ordeal. Most divorces start out as a slight insult by one of the parties, the other responds and before you know it the loving couple turn into a fighting couple.
While I will agree that having parents that fight all the time is not ideal for the children. The civil divorce process ie alimony child support and the division of assets will bankrupt the parents and may result in the children living in poverty for years to come. Each parent is stuck supporting the child either by paying child support or raising the child for the next 18 years, which is a financial burden that any future spouse will have to bear making it harder to remarry.
March 10, 2016 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm in reply to: Divorce is Worse than a Difficult Marriage #1143159Abba_SParticipantFrom a financial point married couples are better off because they don’t have to support to homes. From a health stand point the aggravation from child support and or alimony takes a heavy toll on their overall health. while I don’t condone abusive spouses, one who remains in such a marriage merits that they wouldn’t have to go to purgatory in the next world.
Abba_SParticipantNYC has an income tax unlike Lakewood. It also has Wall Street and more commercial buildings than Lakewood has residents, which are a big sources of tax revenue.
Also, In Lakewood Frum Jews are in the majority as opposed to NYC. So the ratio of Jewish students to public school students are different, 3 to 4 yeshiva students to 1 public school student in Lakewood. While in NYC it’s about 10 public school students for every private school student.
Also NYC has mass transit which many students both public and private use instead of school busing. NYC has sidewalks, crossing guards and traffic lights at busy intersections unlike Lakewood , this reduces the need for school busing,
Abba_SParticipantIn this day and age the or shrinks may not have the time to explain to you the side effects of the drug. You can research it on the web or speak to the pharmacist at the time of purchase or by phone. Many pharmacies printout side effects and proper usage which is given to you at the time of sale.
Abba_SParticipantWhile age is a factor, as a child can’t have children, maturity is a larger factor. There is no class requirement to get married unlike driving which has both written and driving tests.
Part of the problem is that they have never been in a relationship they can break. The boy every zman may switch chavrusahs. The girl may have a rocky family relationship with her family resulting in a broken marriage.
Abba_SParticipantMany people get married for the wrong reasons and when the MAJIC wears off they say what did I get into. We live in a throw away generation. You bought something and it doesn’t work throw it in the garbage.
People don’t realize the financial cost of divorce. There are two homes to maintain. Unless you are very wealthy alimony, child support and legal fees can take up 75% of your income leaving you very little to support yourself with. As far as not paying alimony or child support. If you work in the US you can be tracked by your social security number and your wages garnished unless you work off the grid. No bank account and no assets. You still run the risk of going to jail for failure to pay alimony and or child support. Many states have units that hunt these parents down as the state is usually the one that has to support these families.
The first step in avoiding divorce is after every fight try to be the first to say your sorry and never go to sleep before apologizing even if you think your right apologize. It will make for a longer marriage.
Abba_SParticipantJoseph:
In theory I guess the owner can claim it back but it would have to go to an another shul, not kept in a drawer but in most cases it stays with the original shul. I am from Brooklyn where neighborhoods change and so it’s rare that families go to the same shul generation after generation for almost a hundred years.
What I think happened is that years ago a grandfather donated a sefer torah, the children and or grand children have no relationship with the shul and don’t want to pay for the upkeep. The way I look at they are giving up their right the sefer to the shul. The Klaf can be whitened and a treatment to prevent the ink from drying and cracking can be applied that together with new etz chaims and a montale (Cloth Covering)and it will look like a new sefer at a lower cost.
Abba_SParticipantYY
Most pain medication is also only by prescription yet here too we have many who self medicate. Many times you barely have a minute with the doctor before he is on to the next patient. The pharmacist is the person that will give you the time and also answer all your questions and explain the side effects. Make sure to tell him any drugs that the patient is taking.
Abba_SParticipantI am a Gabbi of last resort at my weekday minyan and although we have a light small sefer torah many people refuse hagbaha. I have spoken to some sphardim ( those from middle-eastern descent) and they too complain about heavy sefer torahs, in their case it the case holding the sefer which is covered in gold and silver making it hard to carry.
The way most people do hagbaha on a heavy sefer is to pull the bottom of the sefer so it about a quarter off the table then bend your knees and press down on the etz chaims. You will be using leverage to lift the sefer up. The only problem with this method is that it puts pressure on the klaf and if the ink is old and dried out it can crack over time. This is the problem with the old sefer torahs. Once it starts cracking in one place and you repair it a little later it happen somewhere else. Pretty soon it’s going to cost you more to repair it then to buy a new one.
I have no idea of what your shule Aron looks like, but if you have 8 sefer that are not being used, Are the families active in your shul? Many families may have moved away or there financial situation may not allow them to maintain the their sefer. Sooner or later you are going to run out of space in the Aron if new Sefer Torah are donated.
The solution maybe to repair these old sefer torahs and replacing the etz chaims and montale, (covering) and rededicate them. It would probably be cheaper than having a new sefer written and the extra money can be used for it’s upkeep. Check with the rabbi and the owner of the sefer before you try to do this.
Abba_SParticipantI am not a doctor nor a pharmacists but I think you should speak to a professional before you start self medicating. There maybe serious side effects and they can better explain them to you.
Abba_SParticipantDuring the early 1900 the draw to secularism was so great that even learned yeshiva students became irreligious. The only question is why did they refer to their great great grandfather as the Chofetz Chaim and not R’ Yisroel Meir Kagan. It could be the great great grandchild used R’ Yisroel Meir Kagan name and it just wasn’t retold that way.
March 4, 2016 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm in reply to: survey – how often do you [men] daven for the amud? #1141137Abba_SParticipantI am in avelas so I am davening from the amud three times a day except Shabbos & holidays. If there are other chiyuvim we split the davening up. If they want to do the whole thing I let them, it not worth the fighting. Although once when a stranger came in right before davening and wanted to replace me, I just spoke to a couple of friends and had a minyan in a side room which was allowed in that shul.
Before this I would daven for the amud, Shachris usually Sunday, Mincha at work at least twice a week. If you wait around until someone volunteers to go up it can take a few minutes, so in order to speed things up we setup a rotation as to who goes up and this way we can get to work on time.
Abba_SParticipantAs less and less people do physical labor they have less muscles, unless they workout in the gym. It is hard to find someone who will lift these heavy Torahs and so they are rarely used. Do you want to donate a sefer torah that just takes up space? Or one that is read from.
Abba_SParticipantI assume they ran out of grant money or maybe there wasn’t enough people entering jobs or looking for jobs on the website.
March 2, 2016 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157269Abba_SParticipantIt seems the Lakewood school monitor cancelled school busing for over 700 yeshiva students 2 days ago. (“14 School Bus routes have been discontinued”) There was suppose to be a BOE meeting about this yesterday but it was cancelled. Now it’s being reported that the district will be using it own buses to transport these children, as reported in the APP.
This is pay back for not passing the $6.2 million referendum and the first salvo in budget negotiations for the new school year. I think what happened is that they (Lakewood) threaten to sue the state as there was suppose to be a deal for this year and the state got the monitor to back down. I think the monitor will deny some more yeshiva student busing next year even though the state will have to reimburse the parents $900.00 per student, because it cost the parents more to arrange for private transportation.
Abba_SParticipantThis is a labeling and customer education problem rather than a hoshgocher problem. The OU has no control over labeling and or packaging although they can advice.
The OU is one of the largest and most reliable kosherous organizations, if they had to cancel certification in cases like this they would be out of business and keeping kosher would be very difficult. Many hamisher hashguchas rely on the OU for most of the certification process.
A consumer education is needed to explain that each item that is package separately requires a certification.
Abba_SParticipantIf you are talking about a 95 lbs. able bodied, I am not sure safety gates will do the job. If the child puts his shoulders against the wall and extends his feet to the gate they will go right through it.
If he is alone in the room you can just lock the bedroom door which is a lot easier. You may also look into a bed alarm so if he gets out of bed am alarm rings. They use them at nursing homes.
I never had this problem but I had kids that didn’t want to go to bed, you may also want to look into restraints which are also used in nursing homes. Imprisoning the child in bed may not be the best solution and may create other problems. Baby proof the room so he can’t get hurt, have a night light so he can see and tire him out during the day so that he falls right to sleep as soon as his head hits the pillow maybe a better solution. Or at least that’s how it works with normal kids.
Abba_SParticipantI am not sure how old or large the child is but couldn’t you just have a extra large crib. They do make cribs that convert into beds.
Did you try putting chairs on the side of the bed to prevent him from getting out?
I have no experience with special children but they should be no different then any other toddler.
Abba_SParticipantI have never been a cashier, and am not a lawyer or a authority on Jewish law. It seems to me that the employer is suppose to pay his workers for the time spent on the job. Once the supervisor turns the light off it seems to me that the cashier is to close the register and bring the cash receipts to the office so that she can clock out on time. Ask the supervisor as soon as he turns off the light if you are going to be paid if you stay beyond your regular hours.
It should be noted that if you do ask to be paid for your time, you maybe fired r”l. I think you should talk to a Rav and a labor attorney before confronting your supervisor. Are cashier jobs readily available in your area for the same wages? Call a couple of stores on your break assuming you have a cell phone and ask if they need cashiers you will be surprised how easy it is. This way you can have a new job lined up if you get fired r”l or a second job if you need the income.
Abba_SParticipantThis maybe a problem since not all Welch’s grape juice will be kosher only the ones with a hechsher. Is it that much better than Kedem? Are the labels different between the kosher and non-kosher grape juice otherwise you maybe drinking unkosher grape juice for Kiddush.
Abba_SParticipantThis maybe a problem since not all Welch’s grape juice will be kosher only the ones with a hechsher.
Abba_SParticipantThe only ones who will leave are the very wealthy. Even then most of them will not want to do it. I remember when neighborhoods changed it was the renters who moved out first and then later the home owners moved. It is very hard to move to a new place, giving up a good job, home, schools and communities for the unknown.
All this is, is talk. The poor and elderly rely on government programs wouldn’t go. The middle class need their jobs and wouldn’t want to lose their house shuls, yeshivas and investments unless they fear for their lives. The only ones that can do it are the young singles who haven’t settled down yet.
Who knows if Canada will accept a large influx of Jews? Maybe there are the same problems over there.
How many of us will on the spur of the moment move to Israel? Sell your house at a loss. Transfer your investments out of the country for fear that the government will seize them.
February 25, 2016 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157268Abba_SParticipantIt seems the ERSD monitors were paid $176,000 for their service. They were paid through December and the reason we are not hearing about them is the state hasn’t allocated any additional funding in the current year for them. Although, the NY state is planning to spend $450,000 next year (starting April) for monitors with veto power and will be giving the district an additional $12-15 million in school aid as per the Journal News. Will the state give the aid even if the monitor with veto power bill isn’t passed? It is also unclear if this funding is for capital improvements or just to avoid additional cuts in service. Unless the monitor is going to improve services for yeshivas it is doubtful the monitor will be getting any budget increases, meaning the state will be footing a larger portion of the budget.
February 23, 2016 10:18 am at 10:18 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157253Abba_SParticipantI am not saying NO young Jewish couples are moving into the 5 towns, they are but not in the same numbers as are moving into Lakewood or Monsey. The ones that are, buying exiting houses own by gentiles, while in Lakewood they are buying houses in new developments. Also the average age of a resident is lower in Lakewood then in the 5 towns. Thus resulting in larger families in Lakewood. Many who claim 5 town residency actually live in Bayswater which is a few blocks over in NYC and not in the school district.
February 22, 2016 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157250Abba_SParticipantThe point I was trying to make is Lakewood & Monsey have large families who are in the low income bracket while the 5 towns even in Inwood they are small families and almost all are in the middle income bracket.
In Lakewood there are over 100 yeshivas and they are bursting at the seam because every year the yeshiva student population is growing by the thousands and there just isn’t enough classroom space to fit all of them.
February 22, 2016 10:07 am at 10:07 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157233Abba_SParticipantLess
I do not know anyone that is moving from NYC to the 5 towns. Most young couples are moving to Lakewood or Monsey. There maybe new developments in the 5 towns but I am unaware of them. In Lakewood and Monsey you can always see new developments being built.
Two years ago there was 24,000 students in Lakewood 19,000 yeshiva and 5,000 public school. This year the monitor wanted to cancel courtesy busing and deny 10,000 students busing, assuming that a third of the student use courtesy busing. The yeshiva students went from 19,000 to 25,000 in two years( 30,000 minus 5,000 public school student = 25,000)or an increase of 3,000 per year.
There are more students entering yeshivas each year than there are public school student in all 12 grades in Lakewood and Monsey. Within 10 years this number will double as per Hank Greenberg the prior ERSD school monitor.
February 21, 2016 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157230Abba_SParticipantAnother problem facing the Lakewood school monitor is special ed.
It seem the district was found to be submitting false affidavits in order to deny private placement. The Special Ed. supervisor was fired because of it. It seemed that the well connected got private placement while everyone else was denied, this is as per the APP. This has been going on for years, but someone appealed and proved the affidavit was false just last year. Will the monitor tell the parents who were wrongly denied that they are entitled to private placement? Or will every parents denied private placement in the last five years appeal?
This will cause a backlog in court hearings unless the BOE starts giving private placement in mediation instead of by administrative judge, or hires more judges to hear all these cases. Besides all the parents cases, which numbers in the hundreds, wanting private placement, at the same time the Monitor (BOE) wants to get those who are not entitled to expensive private placement off, this also requires a court hearing. Failure to have hearing on a timely basis results in private placements
No matter how you look at legal expenses are going to be going up and quite likely so is special ed. expenses this coming school year. How will the monitor balance the Budget?
February 21, 2016 10:57 am at 10:57 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157229Abba_SParticipantThe Lakewood district’s problem is the state’s funding formula doesn’t take into consideration the yeshiva student, whose services are mandated but unfunded.
The budget is a plan On how the district plans to spend it’s money for the current year. For the school year 2015-2016 the monitor got a 7% increase far above the 2% increase cap allowed by law. This increase was voted on by the public in Mar-April 2015. It is doubtful the monitor would have got this increase if the deficit was not paid off. By June 2015 the state monitor reneged on a school busing agreement claiming he needed an additional $6.2 million and threating courtesy busing. In August an agreement was made Lakewood would give $1 million, the state would give 2 million and the yeshiva would agree to a tier system saving an additional $2 million. In Nov. the monitor threatened courtesy busing and called for a referendum for another $6.2 million. By late December the deficit was $12.4 million and courtesy busing would be canceled if the referendum wasn’t approved. It was defeated by 99% and letters went out stating courtesy busing would be canceled as of 2/23. In the last week an agreement was made between Lakewood and the monitor that for additional $1.5 million they would have courtesy busing for the rest of the school year. The school board ratified the agreement but the monitor reserved the right to veto it. The board authorized a lawsuit and then all of a sudden it is reported that the monitor agree to extend courtesy busing according to the original agreement made in August 2015.
Is there a deficit? If so how much? Or is it just a shake down by the state to get more money? Who knows?
February 21, 2016 12:55 am at 12:55 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157228Abba_SParticipantLess Chumras
Yes there was a small deficit of $3-4 million and the monitor who is a paid professional earning over $175,000.00 plus fringe benefits of which there are three.They were supposed to be pay the deficit off with the 7% budget increase plus the $2 million in concession from the yeshivas, $1 million from the town and $2 million from the state. The monitor mismanaged the budget which was the only thing they were hired to fix, as the district only had a budget problem not a funding problem They gave school employees a raise when they didn’t have the money. Now the first year on the job with all of those increases out of a $112 million budget they has a $12.4 million deficit and climbing.
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The 5 Towns doesn’t have these same problems because the rate of student growth is much less because housing there is more expensive as is taxes and they control growth through planning better. Student growth is about 3,000 additional yeshiva students each year in both Lakewood & Monsey. I tend to doubt there is more than a few hundred addition yeshiva students each year in the 5 towns. Also, there are probably sidewalks, traffic lights and crossing guards in the 5 towns as opposed to Lakewood & Monsey so there is no need for courtesy busing.
February 19, 2016 8:57 pm at 8:57 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157224Abba_SParticipantWith this monitor you never know, he had a deal in Aug. Last month he lost a referendum and threaten to cancel courtesy busing. The board ratified the deal he made with the town of Lakewood but the monitor threaten to veto it. The board then authorized a lawsuit should he veto it. It is reported that the monitor wouldn’t veto it but he has not made a public pronouncement in this matter.
They (APP) say the deficit is $12.4 million. If all they are getting is $1 million from Lakewood & the state is only giving $2 million how is the monitor going to balance the Budget? Even if courtesy busing deal is approved by the monitor it will only be effective for the balance of the year until the end of June. Also the over 30,000 students both public and private will have new bus schedules starting 2/29/2016. Is this anyway to run a school district?
February 19, 2016 10:08 am at 10:08 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157221Abba_SParticipantAnother problem facing the Lakewood school district is Special ED., the supervisor of special ed. was fired because she lied in court cases as per the APP. She accommodated expensive special ed. for those politically connected while denying private placement to those who weren’t She was caught in one of those cases of perjuring herself. This means everyone who was denied private placement is going to fight it this year. At the same time, the district will be trying to cut the very expensive special ed. programs. Since this will have to be fought on a case by case basis both legal expenses and special ed. cost will shoot through the roof.
Please note the Lakewood Scoop was only talking about a Lakewood township meeting. The NJ State Monitor can still veto the deal and cancel courtesy busing.
February 19, 2016 2:01 am at 2:01 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157219Abba_SParticipantIn Lakewood I thought the monitor made a deal to have courtesy busing if the town gave the school district $2.5 million. The board approved the deal but the monitor reserved the right to veto it. The board also authorized a lawyer to sue the state if the monitor overruled the deal on busing. With a week to go parents don’t know if they will have to take off work in order to take their children get to school.
The monitor also need to make a deal with the yeshivas if they want to keep the tiered bus system otherwise school busing will cost twice as much. Lets try to make the deal early not like last year when the deal wasn’t made until August by which time no one was interested in the bus routes and he had to pay top dollar.
A budget is due by next month, March so that the public can vote on it and get it to the county by May so that they can calculate the real estate taxes for the new year. Otherwise the budget will be the same as last year and the district will have the same or a larger deficit. There is a limit to how high the deficit can go before the district is bankrupt. If the district goes bankrupt the state will probably be liable as they underfunded the district.
February 18, 2016 9:59 am at 9:59 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157203Abba_SParticipantIn Lakewood where the state monitor is running the board, the state must either provide additional funding to balance this years budget or have the deficit of $12.4 million according to APP, rolled into next years budget. The new budget for next year is due now and it is doubtful if there will be an increase in the portion provided by real estate taxes as they just voted down a 6% increase.
If cutting bussing is off the table, as Lakewood is contributing $2.5 million as per agreement in the APP, that leaves a $9.9 million deficit to be funded by either cuts to public school services or additional state funding. Since the school year is more than half over and the budget for other than school busing is about $100 million this would require a 20% cut on all public school services to balance the budget which is impossible. Additional State aid is the only option.
February 17, 2016 10:14 am at 10:14 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157201Abba_SParticipantI don’t live in either Monsey or Lakewood but the problem in both cases is a district that is under funded. The state wants non mandated services such as courtesy cut before they will think about additional funds. The board can’t cut busing because that is the one service that ALL parents use and they rely on the public to get elected.
The ratio in both districts are 3 yeshiva students for every public school student, by the time the state gets it act together the ratio will be 6 or more yeshiva students per public school student. Mandated services will take a larger portion of the district’s budget than it does now and it will cost more to fix the public schools.
Another problem is if the state monitor cuts busing as was attempted in Lakewood it alienates both public and private school supporters, whose support is needed to pass the districts budget increases. No one has calculated what the town’s cost will be to provide safe passage for the large number of students who will be denied busing. Lakewood was willing to give the school district $2.5 million just so it wouldn’t have to hire school crossing guards and traffic lights.
February 16, 2016 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157197Abba_SParticipantIf you are running a deficit than the board or monitor must cut expenses to reduce the deficit and balance the budget. So for example, if the district has 30 math teachers they can eliminate 15 positions by increasing the class size. Although, math is a mandated subject, class size isn’t. After or while balancing the budget the district can apply for grants to pay to fill those positions so hopefully no one loses their job.
The state wouldn’t change the funding formula unless they lose a court case. These cases are very expensive so unless there is a need it isn’t worth fighting it. Right now the Orthodox run the board so any under funding is felt by the public schools and they are more interested in getting a monitor. Nobody is interested in getting more funding so that everybody can be satisfied.
February 16, 2016 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157185Abba_SParticipantAs long as there is no school monitor with veto power over the board, the board can cut public school services to balance the budget, and if there is a deficit the district must come up with the money i.e. tax increase. If like in Lakewood where they have a school monitor who overrides the board any deficit is caused by the STATE’s employee and the state should be liable.
In Lakewood the monitors have antagonized everyone, the Orthodox Jews by vetoing the board and cutting busing, the Taxpayers by asking for an additional $6.2 million referendum on top of a 7% increase at the beginning of the year, Public school parents for threating to cut courtesy busing for their children.
If the state bails out the district, I don’t see the district ever wanting to be run by the board. Let the monitor make the decisions and let the state foot the bill . This way their taxes don’t go up.
Even if the senate goes democratic I don’t think they will pass a school monitor bill. They just have to look at Lakewood to see how good it’s working.
February 16, 2016 10:13 am at 10:13 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157175Abba_SParticipantERSCD transports more students than any other district in the state except NYC. The district isn’t compensated for this service which is a major part of the problem. Some say cut courtesy busing will solve the problem.
In Lakewood NJ the state tried that and 2,000 public school parents protested because there is no way to safely get the students to school.
NJ thought that if they ran the district they could solve the budgetary problems. In the first year, they have run up a $12.4 million deficit and alienated everyone. I am not sure what their exit strategy is. The state is going to have to increase aid for the near future.
February 14, 2016 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157149Abba_SParticipantThe state is going to be liable if someone gets hurt because it’s the state’s monitor that is the responsible for this dangerous situation. Also the state has the assets to pay unlike the board which is running a $12.4 million deficit this year. Also it can be argued that the state is short changing the district when it comes to mandated services which is why the the funding formula should be changed.
As far as this only being a problem in Lakewood/Monsey, this will be a problem anywhere large number of Jews move to. In a few years there too the number of yeshiva students will exceed the number of public school students, taxing the public school’s budget to provide services to both public & private school students. Young couples can’t afford housing in NYC and are forced to move to Lakewood or Monsey if they want a frum community.
The reason the state is going to have to contribute more is because their monitor caused the deficit. They were appointed to fix the budget and instead of balancing the budget they are running the highest deficit the board ever had.
February 14, 2016 10:42 am at 10:42 am in reply to: School Board Monitors in Lakewood & East Ramapo #1157144Abba_SParticipantThe courtesy school busing is the subject of both a court case and a meeting between the town and the State Education Department.
Hopefully, the matter can be resolved before 2/26 when it is scheduled to be cancelled. If it is cancelled the state maybe liable for anyone hurt in accidents going to and from school.
Cutting courtesy busing will not solve the problem. The problem is that every year the yeshiva student population by between 1-2 thousand, in a few years it will be 2-3 thousand or more. Hank Greenberg the previous East Ramapo School Monitor mentioned this when he said the current yeshiva student population will double within ten years. This applies to both East Ramapo & Lakewood but not the 5 towns as real estate is more expensive in the 5 towns and fewer Jews are moving there as compared to Monsey & Lakewood so student growth is not growing so fast. Mandated services will not be able to be provided at the same level without additional state funding as state law in both NY & NJ limit real estate taxes increases to under 2% per year.
Abba_SParticipantI see nothing wrong with people getting together, the problem comes in when people drink alcohol which usually happens and things can get out of hand.
February 9, 2016 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm in reply to: ZipCar vs. Car2Go and other car share/rental services #1136589Abba_SParticipantCar2Go has tiny cars which you may not fit into and no trunk. The last time I checked it cost about $8 an hour. The last 2 times I rented a car which I need to go to Lakewood they charged $12, with tax and surcharge it came to $36, gas was another $15 but I had it for two days and it had room for 5 plus a trunk for luggage. It sounds great but if you see how long it takes you to pick up the car get the family inside and then drive to where you have to go and find parking. It takes a hour to get there then a hour to get back and some time to go shopping or visiting. It cost you at least $24 with Cars2Go as opposed to $18 plus gas. Also you will be rushing back and may get into an accident.
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