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February 15, 2009 7:15 am at 7:15 am in reply to: Is a Boy Looking to Date a Girl or a Chavrusah? #1217900A. NuranParticipant
Oy. loyalyid, Joseph and some of the rest of you, please listen to what you’re saying.
“It’s disgusting for a girl to be intelligent and informed, let alone interested in what I’m interested in. It’s her job to adore me for my learning and mine to act superior to her.”
I’ll let you in on a secret, boys. Women like to be respected and taken seriously. They want men who are strong and masculine. They don’t want overbearing tyrants who expect worship and obedience. That is exactly what you guys sound like. Maybe your real character doesn’t come across well in written form. Maybe. I’m just saying honestly and from the heart how it sounds.
As far as that goes, my wife is at least as intelligent as I am. Her accomplishments are in different areas but are just as worthy of respect. And I know for a fact that I can trust her with my life, because I have on a regular basis from belaying me on a rope to wading in and pulling off the one who was whanging my head off the concrete. She’s a woman of valor, and her worth really is greater than rubies. You don’t get blessed like that if you expect flattery and subservience from someone you think of as an inferior.
A. NuranParticipantLet’s look at those lifeboats. The children go before the women. The women go before the male passengers. The passengers go before the crew. The crew before the officers. And if someone dies it’s the captain who “goes down with the ship.” That’s how it’s always been. The whole point of being a warrior is serving your people by being willing to die protecting the women and children. That’s what warriors do. That’s what they’ve always done from the forty years in the desert on.
A. NuranParticipantWill, as a guy who has been married a long time let me make a prediction. With an attitude like yours you will make some girl very, very happy and be cause her to offer up heartfelt prayers of thanksgiving to Hashem.
She will be ecstatic that she didn’t marry you and be more grateful than you can believe that the Almighty didn’t saddle her with an arrogant woman-hating guy with a Napoleon complex.
I’m as serious as cancer about this.
Women want to be loved, cherished and valued. They thrive on decent treatment, little services and courtesies that let them know you adore them. “Walk three paces behind me, woman. G-d doesn’t think you’re worth half of one of me. And if there’s a fire? Get out of the way. I’m the one who deserves to survive because I have a beard,” sends an entirely different message that women hear loud and clear. The message is “Self-centered jerk. Run away as far and as fast as you can.”
The only sane basis of any society at any time is “Women and children first.” It is a man’s first duty to protect pregnant women and young children. Without them there is no future. Us men, especially young men? We’re a dime a dozen. The Nation only needs a few of us. Women? Every one of them is precious.
A. NuranParticipantmoish, I’ve been doing various martial arts for a very long time. The edge of the hand is only one blow, and it’s really not that common. The body has many natural weapons. Among the best are the knee, the elbow, the shin and the forehead. Hitting someone in the skull with your ungloved, unwrapped, untaped fist is a good way to break the delicate bones of the hand. There’s even a condition called “boxer’s fracture”.
Self defense is a whole separate world far, far removed from the yeshiva…
A. NuranParticipantGet a copy of Claudia Roden’s The Book of Jewish Food. It has everything from simple to elaborate. So far they’re all delicious, except for the stuffed spleen which must be an acquired taste. And the education in Jewish history and culture is worth the cover price alone.
A. NuranParticipantUse them to make old-fashioned potato bread.
Use them as the “crust” for a meat pie.
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