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I don’t go to either tishin.
I want to see an end to all tzoris in Klal Yisroel! I would like to see real Achdus in Klal Yisroel, no sinas chinam!
Everyone does whatever they want today! Anyway, believe it or not, there is such a thing as neutral Satmer. It does get a little touchy by shidduchim but it is whatever it is!
REMA: WAY TO GO!!
KJ CHUSID: Suprise I am Satmer but I don’t take sides!
LOL, Im not Aharoni or Zaali or Bnei Yoel, I’M JEWISH!
My take is everyone has a right to live wherever they want,BUT don’t go move into a community with one Rav, that’s not yours to put it mildly!
How many Bnei Yoel are there in Kiryas Yoel? How much of a percentage of the overall population are they? Give me a break.
KJ: if you were such a chusid of YOUR Rebbe why don’t you live in Willi?
ZD: You seem to be living behind the times? A sheitelmacher today, if shes good, sells sheitlech for anywhere between $800-$1200. the profit is 100%!
Next Book keepeers make anywhere between $25-$35 an hour. I know because I’m a job recruiter!
If you learn Quick books In school you can become a Book keeper which pays very well!!
ZD : you probably don’t know too many Sheitel machers in Brooklyn, on the average, they make $1000-3000 profit a week!!! ( depending how busy they are!)
DY: +1
Mr and Mrs Gefen: Mazel tov Mazel tov!!! May you see much nachas from the new couple!!
Popa: Look back in the beginning of this thread when someone asked what a shpitzel is , and look at the reply.
Also ask your local Rabbi if he allows women to drive?
Gamanit: Let me get this straight, you THINK that if you stay all day and watch the cars in Boro Park you will for sure see 1 lady wearing a shpitzel driving??? Please don’t hold your breathe.Maybe you will find 1 a year…..
I wonder if you actually know what a shpitzel is? Ahhhh I just realized most of you never saw one, you probably think its just a scarf. Its not! In Europe it was a piece of fabric they wore instead of a wig , as if it was bangs? Anyway I’m sure now that most of you NEVER even saw one.
GAMANIT: Give me a break, next time you see one, take a picture will you???
ZD: The car services in Boro Park , don’t really use Muslims, not the Frum car services for sure. The car services in Kiryas Yoel don’t use any goyim. All chasidsher yungerleit.
Froggie: Is Cr real life? I wonder sometimes?? How much is true and how many threads could be true?
Reb Yidd: I agree but if you need to get somewhere and public transportation isn’t always an option? Owning or leasing a car is more expensive, gas, insurance etc.
It looks like we scared always off??
ZD: I admire your persistence. It is obvious you don’t live in the city.
People use car services all the time, they’re very busy . FYI there is a demand for women car service drivers and all the local car services in Brooklyn do provide them. Back to the original topic: ALWAYS: where are you???
ZD: Now you’re really being ridiculous! Even when both man and wife drive, not every family could afford two cars. If the husband takes the car , the wife can take a car service. Just by the way in the Chassidish community many women only use lady drivers at night.
Always: Any responses??
ZD: driving for a woman in Kiryas Yoel can not be compared to a woman turning on a light!
Let’s try this comparison;women in Kiryas Yoel wear white tichlech, on Shabbos night, do most women in Woodmere do the same? Probably not, because what is acceptable in one community doesn’t mean it’s acceptable in another. Have you got my point yet???
Reb Yid: it is not possible for her to want to be there for the same reasons like everyone else….. She isn’t like everyone else. I will repeat what I said earlier living in Kiryas Yoel is not like living in Boro Park, Williamsburg or Flatbush, it is a shtetl with ONE Rebbe for the community. If you don’t believe and follow his ideas, then go elsewhere where you basically can do and wear whatever you want! Do you think New Square or Tosh would be any different?
ZD; The dor is not messed up because women are driving, in my opinion. the dor is messed up in part because we are giving our children mixed messages either at home , school , shule or wherever you want. The children today are very confused, we say one thing and do another….there are too many outside influences from the goyishe world seeping into our homes. Disrespect for elders is rampant! When I was a child , the children were much more respectful of their parents and teachers/ Rebayim!
Lets take a poll of how many women you can find driving while wearing a shpitzel? Better yet, pick any Chasidisher Rav or Rebbe who will allow it to any of their chasidim? Things do need to match or we are giving our children mixed messages. If someone accepts certain MINHAGIM ( I repeat minhagim not halacha) upon themselves , they need to go along with that. Used to be if someone wore a shtreimel, they wouldn’t do or go certain places that other people who don’t wear a shtreimel go. Notice how I say, used to be , times have changed…. not necessarily for the better. Used to be Levush meant something…today I’m not so sure!
Back to the point of this thread, ask any Rav in Kiryas Yoel,( where the writer says she lives)if they would allow or condone a woman in a shpitzel driving? They wont and they’ll end up making her life miserable! Why should she go through that? She doesnt live in an open community . She lives in a shtetl, where if you choose to live their, you abide if not??? THEN WHY DOES SHE WANT TO STAY??
Trust 789: I’m sorry you feel that way. A woman who chooses to wear a shpitzel on her head, should not be driving! You really give the children mixed messages! Maybe that’s one of the reasons this dor is so messed up!We continuously give them mixed messages! I am not discussing women driving at all, that’s irrelevant what I think. I am discussing her choice of mode of dress. It just doesn’t match!
Golfer +1
ZD: Lets see if I can get this post in, others were deleted. How exactly do you know the women in Boro Park driving are Chasidish?
Always: I’m not sure how long you are living in that community, but realistically does a woman who drives belong there? Why would you want to live in a community so different than yourself? Would your children be accepted in the local school or will they be looked down upon? Why would you want to put your children through that? If you don’t believe in their guidelines, why would you want to live there????
Always: I hope I haven’t offended you in any way. I certainly did not mean to! Based on what you wrote in this post and many others I’ve read about you over the last 3 years , you really have come a long way!!! If I could I would give you a standing ovation!For a baalos teshuva to go that far to put on a shpitzel, must’ve taken a lot of courage on your part! I did not mean to hurt you by suggesting you move or and remove it. it’s just based on your desire to drive and a lot of other things you’ve mentioned in the past , I just didn’t think it was for you BUT that’s just my opinion. Wishing you menuchas hanefesh to make all the right decisions!
ZD; sorry to correct you , but you’re way off ( again?)
A shpitzel is not a scarf over their wig. A shpitzel is in stead of a wig.
KJ Chusid; I would love to hear your answer on this one??
ALWAYS; sorry to disappoint you, you don’t belong in a shpitzel driving in your community. Therefore you choose which one to change or both? If you feel you need to drive, simple move out and take off your shpitzel. You won’t be the first or last one unfortunately.
KJ: Another point don’t get insulted from ZD. Hes in a totally different world. He thinks you need a college education to be something today.He doesn’t know that college doesn’t get you anywhere, ONLY HAKADUSH BARUCH HU!!
I was recently at a closing with a extremely wealthy individual, who couldn’t even sign his name.( HE SPEAKS ONLY YIDDISH) He came to the closing with a calculator. He said thats’ his college.He owns a third of the buildings we passed on the way to the closing. A bisele MAZEL!
KJ Chusid: All joking aside. I tried to warn you not to get into a long discussion with people who have absolutely no appreciation for the Yiddish language.Look back what ZD wrote about Yiddish:”saying there are so few speakers of it” Can you imagine, this is where he is coming from. He has NO idea how Yiddish is the first language of thousands of Chasidish people and that number is Baruch Hashem growing! But NOT in his world, catching on yet????
LG: I heard her the first time recently and was so inspired…. When I received this I just had to share it!
A LICHTIG CHANUKAH to all!
Special segulos for Chanukah,
as told by Rebbitzin Yamima Mizrachi:
o Use olive oil, but not just the regular kind, the best one: the one you would use to dress your salad and cook with. And the reasons are…
o Children who are wise/smart, as oil rises above water
May we merit to see wonderous miracles this Chag and always and may we merit to witness the most precious miracle of all: the coming of Mashiach ????? ?????? ??????, ???!
wow! Just make sure you fill out forms correctly or someone might mistake you for KJ chusid.
KJ Chusid: I don’t know if you really exist , when I click on your name it turns me right back to Yeshiva world? Anyway, the point I want to make is as follows:
You seem to be new here? The atmosphere is not one of A Monroe upbringing, not too many Satmer Chasidim on here, so proceed with caution? Do I need to elaborate?
MT: Sipuk is definitely more important than the money!If you are happier at your job, you will do a better job and ultimately produce better, and make more money!
ZD: I believe you need to spell check your admissions? Correctly
Kj chusid I think you should stop, you won’t win with these people. They were not brought up within your community and they are the closed minded ones now aren’t they??
Simple: My daughter has nieces and nephews older than her. She was born after her sisters got married, get it? They call her the mima!
Wantohelpandask: We are all horrified by this horrific tragedy in Klal Yisroel. No one here is trying to criticize you or your questions,BUT can we really provide the answers? Are we plain people equipped to satisfy your questions? Are there any real answers? I think about the personal families of the niftarim and I shudder! I think of my parents and grandparents,a.h. and what they went through,and I shudder! I think we need to hear WHAT THE GEDOLIM OF OUR GENERATION ARE SAYING, and act accordingly! Hakadush Baruch Hu should give us all the koach to get through this ….and may we only share simchas in Klal Yisroel!
A yiddishe neshama…… he WILL come back , I am sure of it…its just taking much longer than we hoped…
Crazy: What was so shocking?
VYoel Moshe: I hope you were joking????
WOW: Just to let you know my thoughts and tefilos are still with you…..
popa! I thought you were a mooney??? No on would pass up davening there on Rosh Hashana if they belong??
LeTakein Girl: Yes this is a very bitter pill to swallow… we were so hopeful, so many tefillos. Rest assured no tefilla gets lost…it all goes up to the keesay hakovid! I know exactly what you are feeling, every morning as soon as I got up I checked the news… today was no different, then I came to work and found this awful news… I am having a very hard time being able to concentrate on anything else! You are not alone, we are all feeling the same…
Hakadush Baruch Hu should watch over all of us and this new year should bring our final redemption!