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555Participant
What type of yeshiva do you plan to send your kids to? would you prefer to daven in a Chassidic shul or litvish or neither?
What are you trying to dig at?
555ParticipantAvi: That might date back to ‘Yeshivas Shem V”Ever’.(no proof)
555ParticipantWOLF “universal” means by the torah obsevant Jew. Not those who want to do differently or those who have no clue.
555ParticipantI had a Modern neighbor who had green for milchig and yellow for fleishig, with the claim that they were just “being ‘original’ as long as there is a difference in color it doesn’t matter which”.
Or , They could be in the process of becoming BT”s who just got mixed up and think they are doing it right.
555Participant“student is struggling in school and is working.”
Maybe switch majors.
555ParticipantAvi: First tell me how many wars you fought in the Israeli army? In the front line? Why aren’t YOU doing this big important mitzvah?
What do you know about that army?
Where is your Mesirut Nefesh? Where?
In the CR ?!?
I did not look up the minchat Chinuch yet.
555Participantyes, Student, everybody young and affected by the media!
PURPOSELY I showed this picture to war survivors i know (World War-2 NOT MEDINA WARS) and they smiled.
Those Chareidim Targeted by the Zionist don’t find this picture more repulsive than a Religious Jew in IDF uniform. They are just to peaceful to scream and fight. Besides for being worn out by the war.
555ParticipantShe’s probably OO and saving her energy to do the cleaning in the ???”? .
555ParticipantWhere does Obama come in here?
555ParticipantDY:Never knew you could write such a long post. Very nice!
But you could denounce your citizenship or your grandchildren and not move.
555ParticipantTorah: Do you really believe a child cannot help before they are old enough to get married???
555Participantmoi: That was not the question that was a side point.
November 19, 2015 2:40 am at 2:40 am in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113162555ParticipantI personally was not in Ehrlau to know which minhagim he keeps. but i heard they wear a Shtreimel which is definitely not Minhag Frankfurt.
I did not read it, But you can try ??”? ?’ ??? ?????. Or maybe its just ?????? ?’ ??? ?????. He was the Rebbe of the Ch”S.
But there wasn’t much difference like i said German Jews became modern and left their minhagim.
Ch”S einiklech do not use a whimple. They use a gartel.
The Oberlander you know eat gebroks or not?
Today after WWII most people are mixed. They married and took minhagim from the other side. across all boarders. Litvish, polish, Yekkish, Oberland, Unterland, Sefaradim………
555ParticipantCharliehall: These are the same people deviating from Jewish customs.
Besides, some people don’t grow up.
555ParticipantSyag: 🙂
555ParticipantIf you are asking about a post high school girl. The parents are last they should’ve started to train her 5 yrs ago (the latest).
why should anybody think they deserve to live rent free. If she is old enough to earn money she should pay for expenses.
If she does not want to she should move out. Is she 18 already?
555ParticipantCopied from Nuts.com
“Bling Bling! These Chocolate Gold Coins emblazoned with President Kennedy’s image are the perfect party accessory to impress your guests. Use as Chanukah Gelt.
There are approximately 40 pieces per pound.”
This one actually does NOT mention kosher. But you see how they advertise it as *Chanukah Gelt* along with other *Holiday Chocolate*.
555Participantubiqitin, I posted earlier:
“I looked up Xmas Chocolates just to know what they look like.
One place that had Chocolate Coins it was Kosher! “
Explanation:
*Goyishe* places selling X-mas Chocolate do not all sell chocolate coins. They have many different shapes and designs, different colors and decorations etc. but not coins.
One place that had coins – advertised them as *Kosher*. This means a Goyish boss wanting to give a Jewish employee an Present – along with all his other employees getting *X-mas presents* can give him something *Jewish*/Kosher.
That does not make it a Jewish custom by any stretch of the imagination. Nor does it turn *Chanukah Gelt* into a goyish custom because the Goy gave it to the Jew.
If for example , a Goy gave you a present Shabbos Candles. Does this mean from now on Goyim light Shabbos Candles? The Goy purposely chose a present to give to the Jew that he can use. That doesn’t make this item a Goyish custom.
555ParticipantFor immigrants it is much easier in NYC than anywhere else. There are agencies for almost 1/2 the languages in the world probably in brooklyn alone. (or at least it sounds that way when walking down the street.)
I never heard of a Brooklynarean. But these immigrants do not care if they live in brooklyn as opposed to anywhere else. It’s just the services/translators etc. plain and simple easier to blend in. Also job wise they get jobs while others fight over minimum wage.
555ParticipantYB: YES. A Lo Sa’ase is aways Doche an Asse.
For example, Shabbos, If one has to work on Shabbos for food for that day(otherwise he is fasting) it is assur to work. Because working is Lo Saase and Fasting is the absence of eating which is Asseh.
About your impure thoughts you might want to be more careful on what you look at. You obviously have access to the internet – What are you seeing?
Also practice during the day to get rid of those thoughts. If you let it harbor when you are not Davening you have no control when you are.
555ParticipantBy us the minhag was coins ‘davka’. That means it started with pennies then increasing with the yrs. After a quarter came 1/2 dollar coin then one dollar coin. Additionally it stopped once i was old enough to earn my own $ with the explanation “I was no longer a child and understood the value of mitzvos without it”.
I was also told, as mentioned earlier, the concept started in order to encourage the children to learn(like the concept of allowance). And every time i got a coin i was told “This is a reminder to learn”. Which is not doable with presents. Additionally, the money can later be used for anything including tzedaka of my choice. A present is much harder to do a mitzva with unless its a sheep being saved for Korban Pesach.
555ParticipantAs a child, I was told the source for “Chanukah Presents” started when Jews mingling with the goyim and didn’t want to be out casts. Sound like a direct Minhag-Neologgen (Reform – in English).
555ParticipantI looked up Xmas Chocolates just to know what they look like.
One place that had Chocolate Coins it was Kosher! That means they are giving ‘Chanukah Gelt’ as a Xmas present not the other way around. “Chanukah Gelt” dates back before “J” was born. Presents OTOH as you mentioned a ‘century’ ago. That is not comparable.
Besides Who ever said Xmas chocolate was OK?
It is definitely NOT OK!
‘How long something is done’ does not make it a good/kosher minhag. It’s the origin, Who started it and Why that matter.
There is such a thing as a Minhag Ta’us.
555ParticipantMeno: I guess he meant What’s the rush.
November 18, 2015 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm in reply to: Is it mutar to listen to a shiur from your Rabbi on shabbos? #1113226555ParticipantMeno: You shouldn’t be using the CR as your Posek.
555ParticipantJoseph: An old rule: only offer you help when asked.
If he’s seeking a solution, your suggestion can be accepted. But when not your chances for success is nil. Why would you even try? Do you know him personally?
555ParticipantSyag: What are you talking about? Is there an amount of money you feel you are M’chuyav to give?
DY: He can divorce her then.
555ParticipantYB: Stay in Yeshiva. First learn the halachos how to treat a wife, How to respect your in-laws, your parents ( ???? ?? ???). Then decide if you are ready for it. You do not have to take your parent’s opinion into consideration (let alone anybody else)When making that decision.
??? ???? was over 40.
DY and MENO: The divorce rate is so high which speaks for itself. He obviously has reason for his opinion.
555ParticipantWhy don’t you just give “old fashioned Chanukah Gelt” – Your pay check (if you work).
If he is a chocolate lover give him a box of ‘chocolate gelt’.
555ParticipantAfter you ate there you’re asking if it is Kosher???
555ParticipantAvik: That’s your mistake. look in Avos
????? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ????
Nobody in politics is a proven friend. Everybody has themselves in mind. Their own agenda. They are only friends to get your vote, afterward it’s another story.
Obama was put into office by the Jews! Why? What change did they want him to make and why? Do you think Clinton is better?
Obama made a chanukah party his first term. Everybody came enjoyed themself and left. Why did they go? How did they say thank you?
Netanyahu had enough of what? Of Judaism. Why didn’t he ask a Gadol before coming to America? Earlier Prime Ministers asked Gedolim – not all did. But a major decisions (or at leased if he considered it major) he could’ve asked Daas Torah. E”Y has to be lived by the Torah. If not, Do Not complain about anybody’s opposition.
If everybody would say Tehillim as much time as they spend in the cr Obama would be great for the Yidden. What happened to Achashvairosh? Was he bad or good when he agreed to the g’zairah?
555Participantrwndk1: i know many women who read Shir hashirim on Pesach as well as Friday night. What does That have to do with tznius or feminism?
There were a few ?????? though it does not say they got Aliyos, Hagbe or any of that.
555ParticipantJOSEPH: What is the Hakaras Hatov that you want/expect from them?
You want some Jews to be killed in the name of America? They did.
November 18, 2015 10:52 am at 10:52 am in reply to: Is the shechinah shoreh in the coffee room? #1113743555ParticipantTorah, When was the last time somebody was learning TORAH on the CR? i don’t mean arguing about it, even though it might lead to somebody opening a sefer for reference. It is Offically NOT a makom torah. Just people who have once learned torah post what they know, exchange info and forget when they shut the computer.(or leave the sight)
The ShChina is never Shoreh where there is L”H!(
November 18, 2015 10:30 am at 10:30 am in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113160555ParticipantI know of yekkes who used to walk down mother/mother, father/father back in germany. The yekkes i know who made indoor Chupas made it in a hall that the roof opens(sort of like a built in succah).
The truth is the word ‘Yekke’ today means something very different from yrs ago. It used to mean the modern of German Jewry. which by definition would passel all their minhagim. Haskalla was the strongest in Germany and many left their minhagim, or at least changed it somewhat. As posted earlier, one of the changes was to cut their jackets resulting in the name ‘Yekke’. Not all jews in Germany cut their jacket or changed minhagim. If you want to know true old German Jews’ minhagim contact Rav Elyakim Schlesinger in London.
The Ch”S himself was from Frankfurt,Germaqny. That’s where his minhagim come from,(except the takonos he implemented against Haskala)
Other minhagim like gebraks, The Ch”S himself did and as far as i know most Oberland did but ‘Yekkes’ (like Schlesingers in London) do not cook or bake with gebroks, dip and eat they do.
But they’re from Hamburg not Frankfurt.
November 18, 2015 9:35 am at 9:35 am in reply to: Is it mutar to listen to a shiur from your Rabbi on shabbos? #1113220555ParticipantRY23: You only get punished for the bitull torah not as a davar Assur.
Probably includes the CR.
555ParticipantNetanyahu was wrong for going to congress!
BUT, BIG BUT.
This was actually a direct insult to President Obama. Which as president some might say is indirectly a stab to the US.
But what can anybody expect from non religious/anti religious?
Hakaras Hatov is a Jewish religious concept. The medina is officially NOT religious = they don’t feel any obligation to anything religious. Clinton as Secretary of state was promoting anti religiousness in Israel. Defending ‘pritzus’ etc. NO RELIGION = No Religion. That’s all. And ‘no religion’ people do not have Hakaras Hatov. They don’t want to be Hyper religious and having Hakaras Hatov means adhering to a religious concept.
DY: Your post was about a Rav NOT a non religious politician so it does not apply. Hallachos only apply to those who keep it.
This reminds me about a child learning ????? ??? ???? . When his parents took him to McDonalds the boy told his mother “Either hamburger or cheese but not together!” The boy told the story to his teacher in school and said “I kept kosher.”
you can say he was a ‘shogeg’ but you cannot say he was eating Kosher.
555ParticipantDoes Israel owe anybody Hakaras Hatov for their existence? Yes – Hashem. But because they don’t have any toward Hashem they end up doing things that are ???? ???? in the eyes of people.
Earlier PMs would be ‘Shoel Eitza’. Questions were asked to the Steipler zt”l, Chazon Ish zt”l, Sharon personally went to the Lubavitcher zt”l – NOT by Gush Katif – (and that was the last thing he ever did in his life, he lay comatose for the rest of his life.)Just to mention a few.
Who did Netanyahu ask before coming to speak to congress?
Never before in history did any Jew have such Chutzpah. Even though we have been faced with such threats thru out Jewsih history. If he couldn’t speak to Obama direct he could’ve sent a representative. Or come and speak to a representative, But not to the entire congress about the president he is trying to influence.
That is Chutzpah even without Hakaras Hatov.
The OP writes the UN gave them the state – So why did they fight the British in 1948 for their independence?
Whereas Hakaras Hatov is very important and goyim do not understand any language other than Chanufa, it is important to know how to separate the two.
We learn from the story of Yetzias Mitzrayim, when Hashem brought the Makos. Moshe Rabainu himself did not perform the first three but the others he did. Nowhere does it mention he lived in bais Paroh therefor no Makos. Or because the former Paroh invited them to live in Mitzrayim, so therefor no makos…
Israel does pay their dept. Do they or any other Jew have to thank the US for not bombing the train tracks to Auschwitz? After all we have now proof and even a museum to go see!?!
This thread actually is a direct result of the thread “Do we have a good excuse not to live in E”Y?
If all Jewish owned businesses with their owners would relocate to E”Y and rely on Hashem, This thread would have no merit.
The Israelis would be self sufficient would not need, ask or rely on the US or anybody else. We bring our problems on our self.
555ParticipantBinyamin: Thank you for pointing that out. I was never makpid on the spelling because i never heard anybody refer to people who daven Nusach ‘SFARD’ as Sfardi or Sfardim. But now i see it can be easily misunderstood.
November 16, 2015 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113147555ParticipantBased on what is your info?
just a post to avoid explaining your previous post.
555ParticipantPBA: are you OTD or just on a D tour?
555ParticipantYou questions require a long conversation. Are you still in Yeshiva? It is much better to speak about it with your family Rav. If you are embarrassed try your Rosh Yeshiva, Maggid Shiur, Shoel Umeishiv. Don’t think about what info they will give about you for something you are not sure you even want. or at least not at this point.
Everybody here is ready to give their input , but that is NOT what you should base your decision on.
The big question is what would you do if not. Would you be learning? You have the answer in Brachos hatorah – the last words of Ailu D’varim “?????? ???? ???? ????” .
November 16, 2015 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112970555ParticipantROL; What were the safety issues before WWI? (NOT WWII)
The Zionists started before 1929 massacre. Even though they went to the League of Nations asking for Uganda. Just proves they were first Natinalists. They didn’t succeed in getting what they wanted so they decided to wage war for something else – A ‘State of Israel’.
Had they received Uganda they would have called that country “The Jewish State”.
November 16, 2015 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113145555ParticipantIf you are looking for places around the globe, you can also try ‘Batei Ungaren’. There used to be a ‘Pressburger Minyan’ in/on Meah Shearim (I don’t remember exactly where). But it was shrinking yrs ago so i don’t know if it still exists. The next generation joined Erlau mostly. Possibly they were part of Erlau, or just took him as rav after the war being Ch”S einikel. When they realized he was more Chassidish they separated.
In America they used to call Slichos Ashkenaz what was really Lita. And they did not even print the real Ashkenaz slichos which is closer to Yekkes(except in Washington heights,NY *Yekke town*).
November 16, 2015 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113142555ParticipantJoseph: What are you talking about? Is Vein and Vienna not the same place? Which part of Brooklyn are you referring to?
What are ‘True Blue Oberlander’? Never heard that term in my life! I actually think they do not have the blues.
Where is Chasan Sofer/Mattersdorf? Country? city?
November 16, 2015 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113141555Participantmammele: When you say Hungary which yrs do you mean? in Austria it wasn’t so wide spread. But it was still part of Hungary during the time the Ch”S was Rav. (Unless they stopped after they were separated)
November 16, 2015 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm in reply to: DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOOD EXCUSE TO LIVE IN CHUTZ LA'ARETZ? #1112966555ParticipantWhat’s the difference if the caravan is temporary or not. How does destroying a shul show love for Hashem’s holy land? How does that prove they are trying to be mekayem ‘Kivush..’ The first thing to capture is the Yetzer Hara who is saying “Destroy a shul Jews are davening in”.
Do these Chilonim want to show they’re equal to the goy or worse than them?
November 16, 2015 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm in reply to: Differences between oberlandish and yekkish minhogim #1113137555ParticipantWhere is Vein?
What does Chasan Sofer in Mattersdorf,Hungary have to do with anything?
555ParticipantSam; What is your source? it has always been said that Yekkes did not cover their head in the office due to Haskalla.
Sfardim did not always cover their heads. But they ALWAYS covered it when davening, making brachos and eating. And of course learning – for those who learned.(It was less common for Sfardim to learn)
555ParticipantRabbi of Crawley; UNLESS you are a Sfardi and just looking for supporters to wear the traditional sfardi head covering then i wish you good luck!
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